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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Pre and Early 1914 Aircraft Models => Topic started by: Des on March 05, 2014, 07:55:39 AM

Title: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Des on March 05, 2014, 07:55:39 AM
Even though these models have been displayed elsewhere in this forum, I think it is appropriate that they have a place here in the pre 1914 board. As you know, all these models are scratch built in 1:32 scale and represent aeroplanes that are not available as kits in 1:32 scale. I believe that this era of aviation history is being sadly neglected by the kit manufacturers. A full build log of each of these models can be found on my main website  http://ww1aircraftmodels.com

Des.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QCtQzmZEkTY/VZOx9L6LQZI/AAAAAAAARxQ/iDZQ8cRVaU0/s800-Ic42/sikorsky%252520x%252520115.jpg)
Sikorsky S-16

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aJOlvH6Tiu8/VMoAPcwGmbI/AAAAAAAAQG8/A3bcKvDgYzs/s800/curtiss%2520x%2520209.jpg)
1911 Curtiss Hydroaeroplane

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I_jzKwowHpk/VRtM8yM2LmI/AAAAAAAAQpg/LR0MZU7eiSc/s800/blackburn%2520x%2520140.jpg)
1909 Blackburn Heavy Monoplane

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0SmbtiM0de0/U1sC74RkXtI/AAAAAAAANMA/jxqYUo8AoDY/s800/bat%2520build%2520x%2520224.jpg)
1912 Battaille


(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-8qZIWYOA32g/U1sDIo_kmNI/AAAAAAAANMQ/VslMTty1eOM/s800/bleriot%2520x%2520194.jpg)
1909 Bleriot XI


(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k06qsONlRJQ/U1sDWxI1wmI/AAAAAAAANMg/sDJ5Jq4Z_UY/s800/spinne%2520x%2520147.jpg)
1910 Fokker Spinne


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1914 Caudron G3


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-gyOhgQrG40I/U1sECY5uusI/AAAAAAAANNQ/iDEjy8Iyn3s/s800/voisin%2520x%2520211.jpg)
1913 Voisin III


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1913 Jeannin Taube




Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 05, 2014, 09:31:58 AM
What a wonderful collection Des, though I have to admit that my favourite is the Spinne - it almost looks like something you might see in one of da Vinci's sketchbooks!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: coyotemagic on March 05, 2014, 09:55:04 AM
When viewed all together like this, they take my breath away.  What a phenomenal feat, the building of all of these museum pieces in such a short period of time.  I agree with Nigel, Des.  I think the Spinne might be my favorite, as well.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: radio on March 05, 2014, 10:10:48 AM
It is a very beautiful collection Des.
Martin
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Cimmerian on March 05, 2014, 10:44:12 PM
It's a delight to see them all together.
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on March 09, 2014, 03:39:32 PM
spinne and the taube are my favorites but i got alot of love for that caudron, and the others arent half bad either. cant wait to retire, then i would just build biplanes all day.
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Andi Little on March 09, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
At the same time "inspirational", and yet serves to show how far short of the bar one is falling.


Brilliant Des' - just brilliant.
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Ernie on March 10, 2014, 01:22:33 AM
Amazingly beautiful collection, Des. What a testament to your talents.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: lone modeller on March 11, 2014, 03:29:53 AM
Truly outstanding builds Des. Museum standard all without a doubt. The Bataille triplane will be another outstanding build too and I look forward to seeing that here too.
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: xmald on March 11, 2014, 08:47:23 AM
Des I am trully your fan! If you were on a modelling tour I would be your grouppie  ;)
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: coyotemagic on March 11, 2014, 10:40:16 AM
As weird as that may sound, I'm in total agreement.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Epeeman on May 03, 2014, 08:29:44 AM
All fantastic work, Des.

You certainly realise how aviation has advanced when you look at these early, frail machines.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: IFF1418 on May 03, 2014, 04:45:58 PM
Hello Des,

What a pleasure it has been to follow all these amazing builds. This is the top in modeling. All these a/c belong in a book of artwork. Many congratulations again for your unlimited skills!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: kiwiness on June 21, 2014, 12:50:29 AM
Hi Des

WoW, what an amazing collection of awe inspiring planes. I would love to build something like this. Such a shame that they are not available as kits.

Thanks for sharing theses works of art!

Gary
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Chris Johnson on June 21, 2014, 12:57:03 AM
The Spinne gets my vote too. Not to put any pressure on you, but just think what you'll be able to do now with two good eyes. No pressure at all . . .  ;D

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: kiwiness on June 21, 2014, 10:27:35 PM
Nigel hit the nail on the head with his comment: Almost like something from the sketchbook of Leonardo da Vinci. 

How difficult was it to come across blueprints, reference and plans for these aircraft?
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Des on June 22, 2014, 08:47:19 AM
It is extremely difficult kiwiness to obtain blueprints, plans or drawings for the early aircraft, even reference material is very hard to come by. The Battaille for example, this was built from photos of the original machine and a restored example in the museum at Brussels, I had to scale the photos to get some sort of dimensions. It is always better if there is a machine in a museum somewhere, close-up detail photos can be made which certainly helps a lot, but this is not always the case, so in reality some of the build details are guess work. I have had to abandon my latest scratch build project for lack of reference material, all I have are a couple of photos and some crude drawings, not enough to build a model from.

Des.
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Umlaufmotor on July 06, 2014, 06:43:54 AM
An incredible collection of pre 1914 models.
Excellent work, Des.
I take my hat off to all scratch-built modellers.
This is in my eyes the true art of magic, make a beautiful model from a handful of different materials. :o

Greetings from Bavaria
Bertl
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: dr 1 ace on July 09, 2014, 07:53:25 AM
An incredible collection of pre 1914 models.
Excellent work, Des.
I take my hat off to all scratch-built modellers.
This is in my eyes the true art of magic, make a beautiful model from a handful of different materials. :o

Greetings from Bavaria
Bertl

Big Ditto to bertl's comments !!!!


Ed
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Wolf on October 23, 2014, 11:53:44 PM
Wonderfull. This is a superb collection of pre 1914 planes and all are examples of top craftsmanship.
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Dol on January 18, 2015, 06:07:04 AM
What a wonderful collection !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Cage poules on January 23, 2015, 10:49:44 AM
What  fantastics works !!! A real art
I had seen your site when I had begun to build my Fokker Spine.
Thanks
Alain
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Derrick on March 01, 2015, 06:13:36 AM
Having just bought the Osprey book, Pusher Aces, I would like to build a Voisin III one day. However like the other pusher aircraft from WNW the rigging terrifies me. There are so many things I want to build it is hard trying to stay focused on one thing, in my case the pfalz IIIa that I am working on. Although I just removed the body halvess from the sprues for a Nieuport 11 ...

Of the scratch builds that you have done to date, what ones would you suggest would be a good subject to try, for someone completely new too scratch building ?
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Des on March 01, 2015, 07:01:49 AM
Of the eight scratch builds I have completed the "easiest" one to do as your first scratch build would probably be the Bleriot. It's a monoplane which reduces the number of wings to make, there is still rigging but nothing too difficult and being only one wing the rigging is easy to get to. The cockpit is is only very basic but the fuselage being a box section frame does require rigging. I think the most difficult part of this build was the engine.

You have to bear in mind that the Voisin was my first ever scratch build, enormous amount of rigging, large wings and a pusher, everything to make a scratch build difficult.

Des.
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: xan on March 01, 2015, 07:15:13 AM
Wouaw....
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: jknaus on March 01, 2015, 10:56:23 AM
You are an incredibly talented modeler Des and your work is very inspirational. One thing I have never done in all my time modeling is scratch built a model. I find myself drawn more and more towards the idea with every new unique a/c you do. Thank you
James
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: jak on March 01, 2015, 04:54:36 PM
I just saw this topic. Des... You are my idol. Fantastic works on beautifull planes.
Aleksandar
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: Des on March 01, 2015, 06:11:42 PM
Thanks very much for all the kind comments, they are really appreciated.

Even though I love WW1 aircraft my passion is for the pre war machines, the forerunners to our fighting aircraft. Without these early mostly experimental aircraft development of the aeroplane would not have taken the steps it did. I feel that these early aircraft have been sadly neglected by the model manufacturers and it is this reason that has driven me to scratch build these models in 1:32 scale.

I like the unique and unusual as can be seen in the Bataille and the Blackburn Heavy Monoplane but I also like the more well known early types such as the Bleriot and the Fokker Spin, the Taube is still my favorite shaped aeroplane with its bird like wings and fan tail. I will continue to make my scratch builds and I do a daily search on the net seeing if I can come across more subjects to add to my list.

Des.
Title: Re: More pre 1914 models
Post by: ermeio on March 01, 2015, 06:41:07 PM
Keep building them, Des
Your collection is astonishing
we have the same passion - I have no time, though... :-(