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Title: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on January 24, 2014, 03:35:08 AM
I have decided on my next build, the WNW Sopwith Snipe in 43 squadron Markings. I may deviate a little from the kit scheme for 8015 in that I will attempt to build it "During" the last weeks of the war.
RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/mantafigures/wnwsnipe002_crop_zpsaa177c72.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/mantafigures/wnwsnipe002_crop_zpsaa177c72.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early
Post by: mgunns on January 24, 2014, 03:46:40 AM
Hi Rick:

I think this or another DVII will be my next build, so I will be watching to see how  you progress.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early
Post by: coyotemagic on January 24, 2014, 04:06:49 AM
Excellent choice, Rick!  This one is very close to the front of the queue for me, as well.  I look forward to seeing you work your magic on this one.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early
Post by: RAGIII on January 24, 2014, 04:27:49 AM
Thanks for the Encouragement/Pressure guys  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early
Post by: mgunns on January 24, 2014, 04:43:13 AM
Thanks for the Encouragement/Pressure guys  8)
RAGIII
That's what we're here for!   ;)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early
Post by: GAJouette on January 24, 2014, 06:51:57 AM
 Rick,
Ah the beginning of another Opus my old friend. Looking forward to seeing the first progress. But of coarse no PRESSURE.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette



Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early
Post by: Des on January 24, 2014, 07:02:13 AM
This is an excellent choice Rick, Wingnuts have produced a brilliant kit in the Snipe, it is so easy to build and the detail is amazing, looking forward to seeing your first steps with this one.

Des.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early
Post by: guitarlute101 on January 24, 2014, 07:43:17 AM


Very nice Rick! I'm looking forward to this!

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early
Post by: Ernie on January 24, 2014, 07:54:54 AM
I have the later version of the Snipe Rick so I will avidly follow your build.
With your talents, I will be able to pick up a lot of information to help me
with mine when it comes about.  Thanks Rick...onward and upward!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early
Post by: IFF1418 on January 25, 2014, 02:29:31 AM
Hello Rick,

I am as Ernie with the late version of the Snipe, so I will certainly follow this one too ( I follow all your builds, there is so much to learn from you). Looking forward to see your first pictures my friend.

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 02, 2014, 05:30:35 AM
I have decided to do a dual build as neither will be ADDING any extraordinary techniques or modifications  to the kits. I will post some pictures tomorrow of my progress on both kits. So far I have sprayed the base CDL color and started the wood grain in oils on both kits.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on February 02, 2014, 06:00:42 PM
Sounds good, Rick.  Looking forward to the photos.  Enjoy the build!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 02, 2014, 08:22:18 PM
No pressure Rick  ::), good luck with your builds, I'll be watching with interest as I love the DV and DVa's.

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on February 02, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
Hello Rick,

Another nice and great duo waiting for us. Looking forward to it!


Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 03, 2014, 08:20:45 AM
Here are the promised pictures:
First the Snipe.
I have painted the basic wood grain and next will mask and paint the aluminum on the fuselage and use some washes to enhance the overall look of the wood snd CDL.


 (http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbie010_crop_zpsf5cababd.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbie010_crop_zpsf5cababd.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbie008_crop_zpsbac87653.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbie008_crop_zpsbac87653.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbie018_crop_zps5a9617d8.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbie018_crop_zps5a9617d8.jpg.html)

Next the Albatros:
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbie001_zpsb026ea63.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbie001_zpsb026ea63.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: xmald on February 03, 2014, 08:34:31 AM
The woodgrain looks great! So you are building both Snipe and Albie?
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 03, 2014, 08:39:04 AM
The woodgrain looks great! So you are building both Snipe and Albie?

THANKS AND Yes, BOTH the Albatros and Snipe are being built!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on February 03, 2014, 06:23:51 PM
Hi Rick,

Your woodwork looks great! Very nice and warm colors. Looking forward to see the interiors develop!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on February 04, 2014, 11:10:05 AM
2 at a time, you are a busy boy Amigo !

ED
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 04, 2014, 12:19:26 PM
Hi Rick,

Your woodwork looks great! Very nice and warm colors. Looking forward to see the interiors develop!

Kind regards
Patrick

Thanks Patrick! I appreciate your confidence and support.
RAGIII

2 at a time, you are a busy boy Amigo !

ED

Yes I am Ed  ;D On the other hand this will probably take 2 x as long  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Pete Nottingham on February 04, 2014, 07:38:55 PM
Love the woodwork Rick, are you going for the pale yellow woodwork on the Albie?

Cheers

Pete.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on February 04, 2014, 07:49:49 PM
Good grief, Rick...two at a time?  You are a modelling machine, my friend.
I'd be in serious trouble if I tried that.  End up with a Snipeatros or something
like that. ;) ;D  Enjoying your build(s) twice as much.  Heigh-ho!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on February 05, 2014, 03:01:47 AM
A dual build in 1/32 scale!?  I tip my hat to you, Amigo!  The closest I've ever come to that is my pair of 1/48 Halberstadts.  And they're still not finished.  However, I have confidence in you, my brother.  I know you can do it.  Your wood grain looks fantastic.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on February 05, 2014, 06:30:39 AM
Hello Rick:

I like that honey  toned wood on the interiors for both models.  You are a brave soul to do at once!  As you say, takes twice as long; but you will have two outstanding models when you are done.  Looking forward to seeing you progress through the builds.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 05, 2014, 12:34:43 PM
Love the woodwork Rick, are you going for the pale yellow woodwork on the Albie?

Cheers

Pete.

Pete,
Yes the pale yellow lookis what I am after. In the past I have tended to get my Albatros interiors darker than the exterior so I am attempting to be more careful on this one. As for the Snipe, the fuselage is Honey toned and the side frames a little more sienna toned.
I think the contrast will look nice and hopefully be representative of the original. (WNW calls for a darker wood on the frames).
RAGIII

Good grief, Rick...two at a time?  You are a modelling machine, my friend.
I'd be in serious trouble if I tried that.  End up with a Snipeatros or something
like that. ;) ;D  Enjoying your build(s) twice as much.  Heigh-ho!

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Thanks Ernie! As I said I am sure this will take twice as long but I owe my friend and US distributor for Aviattic a build using the 5 color joined Lozenge  ;D Didn't want to delay it any longer. Glad you are enjoying the builds!
RAGIII

A dual build in 1/32 scale!?  I tip my hat to you, Amigo!  The closest I've ever come to that is my pair of 1/48 Halberstadts.  And they're still not finished.  However, I have confidence in you, my brother.  I know you can do it.  Your wood grain looks fantastic.
Cheers,
Bud

Thanks Amigo! I think I have this planned and under control but if history is any indicator, one will/ may take the lead over the other  8) 8)
RAGIII

Hello Rick:

I like that honey  toned wood on the interiors for both models.  You are a brave soul to do at once!  As you say, takes twice as long; but you will have two outstanding models when you are done.  Looking forward to seeing you progress through the builds.

Best

Mark

Thanks Mark,I appreciate your comments on the wood and your CONFIDENCE  :-\
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 24, 2014, 03:22:02 AM
Here is a quick verbal update to be followed by pictures later:
I have painted and assembled the snipe cockpit interior. The rudder control cables were done with stretched sprue, the elevator controls with monofilament attached to the controls on the side using the provided parts drilled to accept the cables. The panel was painted wood using the usual technique. Side frame bracing wires are sprue. One note on the snipe interior, there are a lot of pins to line up when attaching the side frames.... be cautious and careful. The seat is painted with oils and the belts acrylics.

The Albatros is progressing just a tad more slowly. I have done some work to simulate the leather seat cover and painted the seat using oils. I have also used Aviattic 5 color lozenge on the frame behind the seat. Added som wrinkles using a base of Delta Ceramacoat. Also added Brittish interior green to the engine bay and some washes to the interior.

RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 24, 2014, 04:21:48 AM
The Promised Photos:
RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe035_crop_zps849ad6b2.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe035_crop_zps849ad6b2.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe034_crop_zpscdefc8f6.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe034_crop_zpscdefc8f6.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe033_zps1a5a719d.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe033_zps1a5a719d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on February 24, 2014, 04:25:39 AM
These are very fine photos RAGIII.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 24, 2014, 05:09:39 AM
These are very fine photos RAGIII.
Martin

Thanks martin. The focus is good but there is a yellow cast.... not noticeable until one sees this:

Note the flesh is yellowed!
RAGIII
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe037_zpsd1e90173.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe037_zpsd1e90173.jpg.html)

Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Dal Gavan on February 24, 2014, 07:12:37 AM
That's looking good, Rick.  The woodwork is looking particularly good.

That's a nice job on the pilot, though I can see what you mean by the yellow cast. 

Cheers.

Dal.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: bobs_buckles on February 24, 2014, 07:16:49 AM
Looking good, Rick.

I'm thinking of having a go at the Snipe once my Pfalz is finished, your build will help me with that decision  ;)

Vb
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on February 24, 2014, 07:54:07 AM
Hello Rick,

Magnificent interior, each model better and better. Great work. And as Martin said, your photo's are very good. Well done my friend! Looking forward for the next update.

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on February 24, 2014, 02:42:53 PM
Awesome work on the innards, Rick, and that pilot is fantastic.  I've yet to work up the nerve to give that a try.  Must do it soon.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on February 24, 2014, 08:01:57 PM
The cockpit looks absolutely superb, Rick.  Excellent work, my friend.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 24, 2014, 10:21:22 PM
That's looking good, Rick.  The woodwork is looking particularly good.

That's a nice job on the pilot, though I can see what you mean by the yellow cast. 

Cheers.

Dal.

Thanks Dal, good to have you with me on this project!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 24, 2014, 10:23:35 PM
Looking good, Rick.

I'm thinking of having a go at the Snipe once my Pfalz is finished, your build will help me with that decision  ;)

Vb

Bob, First thanks for your comments! I hope you do build the Snipe, the engineering really is first rate. From what I have run into so far I think the design is better than some of the kits that followed this one. JMHO of course.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 24, 2014, 10:29:18 PM
Hello Rick,

Magnificent interior, each model better and better. Great work. And as Martin said, your photo's are very good. Well done my friend! Looking forward for the next update.

Kind regards
Patrick

Thanks Patrick, I always appreciate your support.
RAGIII

Awesome work on the innards, Rick, and that pilot is fantastic.  I've yet to work up the nerve to give that a try.  Must do it soon.
Cheers,
Bud

Bud as always I appreciate your comments! As for the pilot I hope to get better pictures and post in the Aviation figures section. You really should give figures a go, they are interesting in that they give you a whole new skill set. I enjoy painting figures even though as with most things I am an Average painter. (I am good with that)  ;D
RAGIII

Ernie,
I appreciate your comments greatly! Have you decided for sure on your next build?
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 26, 2014, 10:33:15 AM
Here are the latest updates on bothe the DVa and the Snipe:
First the troublesome DVa. Not the kits fault by the way, problems have been self created. I have begun adding the details to the cockpit side. I also managed to break 2 out of 3 frames so had to glue them in place a little earlier than planned. SO I am working around them adding detail parts. The rear bulkhead has Aviattic Lozenge applied over some wrinkles created with Delta Ceramacoat.

The Snipe is going well:
I have finished adding the interior parts and attached the Vickers.
The fit is great and I have placed the coaming over the frame in a couple of photos just to show how good  it is.
RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe007_crop_zpsa1d7fe3f.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe007_crop_zpsa1d7fe3f.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe010_crop_zps35594f20.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe010_crop_zps35594f20.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe013_zpse13cd8e0.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe013_zpse13cd8e0.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe017_crop_zps49e37bf7.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe017_crop_zps49e37bf7.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe015_crop_zpsf98fdf75.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe015_crop_zpsf98fdf75.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on February 26, 2014, 10:43:53 AM
Astonishing work, Rick!  My faith in your ability to pull off this near miraculous feat has not been misplaced.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: bobs_buckles on February 26, 2014, 04:49:28 PM
Looks like you're having fun, Rick!
Keep going!!

VB   ;)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Nigel Jackson on February 26, 2014, 05:42:48 PM
Lovely work on the business end of the Snipe, Rick.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on February 26, 2014, 07:24:30 PM
Great update, Rick!  Your seatbelts in the Albatros are first-rate and despite the problems it
is coming along very well.  I love the woodgrain.
  The Snipe cockpit is amazing.  Very well done, my friend.  Luckily the cockpit opening is
large enough to show off your talented workmanship.  I look forward to the next updates.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Nigel Jackson on February 26, 2014, 07:44:51 PM
Hello All

I notice that the next edition of the French language aircraft modelling magazine Wing Masters (N. 99, publication date 28 February) lists a build of a 1/32 Snipe. But, I'm with you Rick!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on February 26, 2014, 09:49:57 PM
Hello Rick,

The interior of the Snipe is stunning, one of the best interiors I've seen. You are an ace in woodpainting! As for the Albatros, even though you had an accident, it looks great too. I forgot to mention the beautiful pilot earlier. Keep up the magnificent work Rick.

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lcarroll on February 27, 2014, 12:21:22 AM
Both very impressive, Rick, but your Snipe Cockpit really has my attention! Beautiful work and very eye catching. Obviously having double the work has not compromised your considerable talents, keep at it!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 27, 2014, 01:39:13 AM
Bud, Von Buckles, Nigel, Ernie, Patrick and Lance,
Thank you all for your very Enthusiastic  support and positive comments! They are appreciated and encourage me to go forward! Lance, I want to emphasize that what you see is what you get reference the Snipe Pit. I have added nothing but the bracing cables and control wires! This is a fantastic kit and I believe it to be the best Out of the Box interior they have done to date! JMHO of course.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lcarroll on February 27, 2014, 02:49:49 AM
Rick,
    I have the Snipe in my Stash batting order and I'm really looking forward to getting at Her. A "Bif' and Sopwith Tripe in the past year has me a little "PC-10'ed out" presently but it won't be long, and your Build isn't hurting the Snipe's chances of arriving on the work bench soon for certain.
A lovely and ambitious project you have going here, I'll be following carefully.........
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on February 27, 2014, 11:11:04 PM
Rick,
    I have the Snipe in my Stash batting order and I'm really looking forward to getting at Her. A "Bif' and Sopwith Tripe in the past year has me a little "PC-10'ed out" presently but it won't be long, and your Build isn't hurting the Snipe's chances of arriving on the work bench soon for certain.
A lovely and ambitious project you have going here, I'll be following carefully.........
Cheers,
Lance

Lance,
As I have often stated if my builds inspire someone to take a kit out of their stash and begin to build then my purpose for posting in Forums is fulfilled! I am Looking forward to seeing your Modeling Skills enhance this already terrific kit!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on February 28, 2014, 05:50:25 AM
Hello Rick:

Like the others have said, outstanding workmanship.  I too like the Snipe and the work you are doing on it, nicely done all around.  Like Lance, it is probably the next up and your work is motivating me to take it out as well and start on it, when Mr. Pfalz is finished.

Looking forward to your next update.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 01, 2014, 11:09:53 AM
Hello Rick:

Like the others have said, outstanding workmanship.  I too like the Snipe and the work you are doing on it, nicely done all around.  Like Lance, it is probably the next up and your work is motivating me to take it out as well and start on it, when Mr. Pfalz is finished.

Looking forward to your next update.

Best

Mark

Mark, Thanks for the very nice comments, they are appreciated! Hope to see your Snipe Soon!!
RAGIII

I have been working on the Albatros interior. This one continued to FIGHT me all of the way. If it could break it did.... Nuff said !
 My next post will be photos of the Albatros cockpit. Both the Snipe and Albie are ready now to button up the fuselage  :)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 01, 2014, 11:25:08 AM
Here are the Photos: This is OOB with the control wires added from stretched Sprue. No Bo Magic here but I like the results... Especially considering all of the repairs I have done. The good news is that my repairs worked and can't be seen with a closed fuselage  ::)
RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe015_crop_zpsd391767a.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe015_crop_zpsd391767a.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe016_zps3f70d636.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe016_zps3f70d636.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe017_zps857ebb2a.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe017_zps857ebb2a.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe021_zps0f001a03.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe021_zps0f001a03.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on March 01, 2014, 11:38:53 AM
Congrats, Amigo!  Those innards are stunning.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 01, 2014, 12:26:26 PM
Congrats, Amigo!  Those innards are stunning.
Cheers,
Bud

Thanks Bud! By the way, the obvious broken former near the seat is glued into the left fuselage half. I found that to be the best way to insure proper location..... The unattached seat support is now fixed, and the fuselage is joined.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on March 01, 2014, 06:58:58 PM
Hello Rick,

Tremendous work my friend.  As always your cockpit looks great. Nothing to be seen from the broken part. Congratulations. Well done

Kind regards
Patrick
 
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 01, 2014, 09:43:02 PM
This is looking so nice Rick. It may be that when the fuselage is sealed up lots can't be seen - but yes, we know it's there .......!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on March 01, 2014, 09:54:47 PM
Good progress on the Alby, Rick.  Could you tell me what paint you used for the green in the
engine area? She's coming along very well! 

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: rhallinger on March 01, 2014, 10:28:10 PM
These birds are obviously in very good hands Rick.  :D.  Excellent work!  Carry on.  ;)

Cheers,

Bob
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on March 02, 2014, 12:48:25 AM
That will be a very great and beautiful work Rick. :)
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: stefanbuss on March 02, 2014, 05:08:43 AM
It's interesting to see that you are working on two kits at the same time - I seldom have time available for one kit...

I think it is not necessary to have Bo's madness/magic applied here, even "only OOB" those kits are tremendous. And skillful painting will enhance that even further.

Stefan
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 02, 2014, 12:22:48 PM
Hello Rick,

Tremendous work my friend.  As always your cockpit looks great. Nothing to be seen from the broken part. Congratulations. Well done

Kind regards
Patrick

Thanks Patrick. I am always happy that you are aboard on my builds!
RAGIII

This is looking so nice Rick. It may be that when the fuselage is sealed up lots can't be seen - but yes, we know it's there .......!

Best wishes
Nigel

Thanks Nigel! Yes a bunch will be hard to see in the completed model! In this case that works both ways as my repairs are also invisible  :o
RAGIII

Good progress on the Alby, Rick.  Could you tell me what paint you used for the green in the
engine area? She's coming along very well! 

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Thanks Ernie! As for the Greyish green paint I use any one of three. In this case I started with WW2 Italian interior green. I also use British interior green, and RLM 02 as the mood strikes.
RAGIII

These birds are obviously in very good hands Rick.  :D.  Excellent work!  Carry on.  ;)

Cheers,

Bob

Thanks Bob! I appreciate your looking in on my builds!
RAGIII

That will be a very great and beautiful work Rick. :)
Martin


Thanks Martin, Your continued support is appreciated.
RAGIII

It's interesting to see that you are working on two kits at the same time - I seldom have time available for one kit...

I think it is not necessary to have Bo's madness/magic applied here, even "only OOB" those kits are tremendous. And skillful painting will enhance that even further.

Stefan

Thank You Stefan!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on March 06, 2014, 04:53:47 AM
Hello Rick:

I can't see where anything is broken either.  As mentioned, these kits build into such great models right out of the box.  Yours is no exception.  The interior looks great and I am looking forward to seeing this one unfold.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 06, 2014, 06:38:15 AM
Hello Rick:

I can't see where anything is broken either.  As mentioned, these kits build into such great models right out of the box.  Yours is no exception.  The interior looks great and I am looking forward to seeing this one unfold.

Best

Mark

Thanks Mark, I always appreciate your comments! As for the broken frame it appears right at the front of the seat on the left side. Like I said the remainder was glued to the left fuselage half. I have made some progress since my last update:
!. The Snipe interior is now glued into the left fuselage half. After a test fit of the fuselage to the wings I spent several hours trying to figure out why the parts all fit correctly and yet there was a gap between the fuselage and wing. My research turned out to lead to Des's build and I saw that this gap is present on his also. So it seems I did nothing wrong and the gap is correct. I have also started the engine.
2.The Albatros now has the tail planes attached and rigging holes drilled. I am ready to prime and paint the fuselage and start applying the Aviattic Lozenge.
Pictures later tonight.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Des on March 06, 2014, 07:47:28 AM
The work you have done on the interior is superb Rick, and the damaged part is not noticeable at all, an excellent repair. Looking forward to seeing her closed up.

Des.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 06, 2014, 12:03:57 PM
Thanks Des, I appreciate your comments!
RAGIII

Here are the pictures of both builds as of today:

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe004_crop_zps32637371.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe004_crop_zps32637371.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe008_crop_zpsced0f850.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe008_crop_zpsced0f850.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe014_crop_zpsedb0e981.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe014_crop_zpsedb0e981.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe013_crop_zpsfc855249.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe013_crop_zpsfc855249.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe010_crop_zps9a11ad99.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe010_crop_zps9a11ad99.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe016_crop_zps6199aaf7.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe016_crop_zps6199aaf7.jpg.html)


Just need to add plug wires to the engine:

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe021_crop_zpsaa72c5ab.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe021_crop_zpsaa72c5ab.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe023_crop_zpscca1e018.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe023_crop_zpscca1e018.jpg.html)


Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on March 06, 2014, 08:24:59 PM
Rick, both aeroplanes are coming along beautifully.  The Snipe's engine looks really good...
the cylinders to me are just right as far as weathering goes.  Very good work!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on March 07, 2014, 02:24:35 AM
Like Ernie, it is no more to say.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on March 07, 2014, 02:28:45 AM
Hi Rick,

Lovely interiors. Magnificent wood painting. And the engine looks great, weathering as usual very convincing. Well done my friend

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on March 07, 2014, 10:54:22 AM


Both are coming along nicely Amigo !


Computer had a virus and we were gone for 2 weeks so just now getting back on-line.

ED
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on March 07, 2014, 12:07:05 PM
Extraordinary work, Amigo!  Doubling your pleasure, doubling our fun!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 08, 2014, 12:40:51 PM
Rick, both aeroplanes are coming along beautifully.  The Snipe's engine looks really good...
the cylinders to me are just right as far as weathering goes.  Very good work!

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Thanks Ernie,
I have added the plug wires to the engine and am now preparing my paint options. Also need to drill rigging locations in the wings , fuselage etc.
RAGII

Like Ernie, it is no more to say.
Martin

Thanks Martin, I appreciate your comments!
RAGIII

Hi Rick,

Lovely interiors. Magnificent wood painting. And the engine looks great, weathering as usual very convincing. Well done my friend

Kind regards
Patrick


Thanks Patrick, I am happy you are continuing to follow my builds!
RAGIII



Both are coming along nicely Amigo !


Computer had a virus and we were gone for 2 weeks so just now getting back on-line.

ED

Ed,
Nice to hear from you! I was getting ready to E Mail you as I had noticed your absence! Glad it was nothing more serious than a Virus  ::) Thank you for your comments!
RAGIII

Extraordinary work, Amigo!  Doubling your pleasure, doubling our fun!
Cheers,
Bud

Finally, Thanks Bud! I am having a great time despite the Albie Glitches! Glad you are enjoying the builds! I have joined the Snipe fuselage and test fitted the Cowl and Lower wing. All looks good at this point  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 12, 2014, 04:01:44 AM
I have spent a few hours doing Test Mixes for late war PC 10. There are 5 colors on the DH2 wing: One is an out of the Bottle/ Tin PC 10, 3 others are mixtures on the brown and green end. One is an out of bottle Field Drab. I took the pgotos in Natural Light. Not sure until I see them here if I like them. Let me know if you think any are close/ not close and your reason/s.  8)

RAGIII


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/PC10test016_crop_zpsfa21e5f4.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/PC10test016_crop_zpsfa21e5f4.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/PC10test013_zpsbd38b9ee.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/PC10test013_zpsbd38b9ee.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/PC10test007_crop_zpscd3b26bd.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/PC10test007_crop_zpscd3b26bd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on March 12, 2014, 05:52:43 AM
Hi Rick:

When looking at the DH2 wing straight on fore to aft, I like the one on the far right.  It just looks right to me.
Coming along nicely Rick. 

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on March 12, 2014, 12:32:29 PM
its hard to say but my first choice would be from the lower photo the second from the left. but my monitor might show color diff thn they really are.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 13, 2014, 05:46:22 AM
Hi Rick:

When looking at the DH2 wing straight on fore to aft, I like the one on the far right.  It just looks right to me.
Coming along nicely Rick. 

Best

Mark

Mark, Thanks for the response! You have actually chosen one of the 2 I am considering as the final product ! This one leans more to the green side in real life  ;D
RAGIII

its hard to say but my first choice would be from the lower photo the second from the left. but my monitor might show color diff thn they really are.

And... You have chosen the other  ;) This one is of course on the brownish side. The first one that Mark chose started out as Floquil Olive Green with Floquil Crimson added. The second started as Floquil RLM 71 Dark Green with Crimson added to a lesser degree. The 3rd color was Floquil French Dark Brown with generous amounts of regimental Yellow added, plus a touch of blue.
The 4th is Model Master Field Drab out of the bottle and the 5th is XTRA color PC 10.
RAGIII

Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 13, 2014, 07:02:08 AM
Hi Rick

I just love this sort of experimentation, although, of course, it all comes down to a matter of personal preference, not to say the variables of eye quality and monitor display. If I had to choose one from how I see the images posted it would be that chosen by Mark.

One of the high risk things I've tried is not mixing colours but applying Vallejos/Prince August washes over a sprayed olive drab. The washes have involved colours like  panzer browns! Even the lightest of washes can be face the dangers of pooling but I find that with care it can produce subtle variations in colour. That said, it's not for the faint-hearted.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on March 13, 2014, 06:37:08 PM
Hello Rick,

Although I don't know much of the original colors, I would prefer the two colors on the last photo on the right hand side. As Nigel said a question of personal taste. Anyway I'm sure you will make a beauty of it as you always do my friend.

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on March 13, 2014, 09:09:19 PM
Rick, I think I would choose the one on the far right in the second picture, or possibly
a mixture of that colour and the one next to it, to give that one a bit more of a greenish tint.
It will be interesting to see what you choose.  Whichever one, will doubtlessly look to be
up to your usual high standards!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 14, 2014, 11:07:15 AM
Hi Rick

I just love this sort of experimentation, although, of course, it all comes down to a matter of personal preference, not to say the variables of eye quality and monitor display. If I had to choose one from how I see the images posted it would be that chosen by Mark.

One of the high risk things I've tried is not mixing colours but applying Vallejos/Prince August washes over a sprayed olive drab. The washes have involved colours like  panzer browns! Even the lightest of washes can be face the dangers of pooling but I find that with care it can produce subtle variations in colour. That said, it's not for the faint-hearted.

Best wishes
Nigel

Nigel,
Thanks for your input! Yes' experimentation is interesting and FUN! Your washes sound interesting as well. I have thought about the effect of Airbrushing Tamiya Clear Yellow over the more Brown shades to see what I get. I think the idea has promise and I will pursue it after reading your response....
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 14, 2014, 11:12:06 AM
Hello Rick,

Although I don't know much of the original colors, I would prefer the two colors on the last photo on the right hand side. As Nigel said a question of personal taste. Anyway I'm sure you will make a beauty of it as you always do my friend.

Kind regards
Patrick

Thanks Patrick, I appreciate all input!
RAGIII

Rick, I think I would choose the one on the far right in the second picture, or possibly
a mixture of that colour and the one next to it, to give that one a bit more of a greenish tint.
It will be interesting to see what you choose.  Whichever one, will doubtlessly look to be
up to your usual high standards!

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Thanks Ernie. I have noted that we have about a 50% mixture between those that favor the greenish mix and those that favor the brown. Ian Huntley said that in the later war period the PC 10 got Darker and More Brown. What I am after is a color that looks brown in some lighting and green in others. Or perhaps I will just go brownish ..... ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Epeeman on March 15, 2014, 08:41:18 AM
Hello, Rick -

Jumping in a bit late but both models are progressing nicely -

Good luck, mate!

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 15, 2014, 11:58:56 AM
Thanks Dave, I appreciate your comments! By the way I have spent some time deciding to what level I was going to detail the Albatros engine. An order I placed about a Month ago has now come through and I should have some resin detail parts soon. The funny thing is I had begun to assemble an almost OOB engine but hesitated thinking of adding my own details. Had I glued on just one or two more parts it may have been too late  ::)
RAGIII

PS: I had originally covered the wings of this kit with WNW Lozenge. I also used the upper wing Iron cross decals. If anyone is out there who used the Balkan Cross options and could spare their upper wing iron crosses I would appreciate the help. I would of course, pay a reasonable cost and shipping! TIA,
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Zabu on March 16, 2014, 05:23:22 AM
Oh well, coming late again, but better late then never!

Quite a nice job that you're doing with both models, the detail and painting are awesome so far.

Cheers
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 16, 2014, 11:46:24 AM
Oh well, coming late again, but better late then never!

Quite a nice job that you're doing with both models, the detail and painting are awesome so far.

Cheers

Thank You very much for the compliment and I am glad you are looking in!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on March 16, 2014, 11:52:06 AM
Hi Rick:

If you still need the Iron Cross let me know.  PM me and we can figure it out.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 16, 2014, 12:24:54 PM
Hi Rick:

If you still need the Iron Cross let me know.  PM me and we can figure it out.

Best

Mark

Thanks Mark, PM sent.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 17, 2014, 11:50:25 PM
Here are my latest photos of progress to date:
 The initial oils wood grain has been applied. Now I must wait a few days before doing any more work on the fuselage. The lower wings are just placed on the fuselage to facilitate handling the fuselage.

 The Snipe is about ready to do some paint work. I started drilling rigging holes yesterday. I had one of those 5 bits for 10 holes days!
Again the wings are just placed in position.

RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe008_crop_zpsc0c218f1.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe008_crop_zpsc0c218f1.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe015_zps2f53e4a0.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe015_zps2f53e4a0.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe016_zps058813fc.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe016_zps058813fc.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe017_zps3fcaec39.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe017_zps3fcaec39.jpg.html)


Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on March 18, 2014, 12:11:01 AM
Hello Rick:

I like how the wood tone looks on the Albatros.  The Snipe is making progress as well.  Looking forward to seeing you progress through both of these. 

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on March 18, 2014, 12:24:47 AM
Hi Rick,

Beautiful wood color as we are used from you. I wonder how you manage to combine the build of two such difficult a/c and keep all this organized. Looking forward for your next update my friend.

Kind regards
Patrick
 
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 18, 2014, 12:39:39 AM
Hello Rick:

I like how the wood tone looks on the Albatros.  The Snipe is making progress as well.  Looking forward to seeing you progress through both of these. 

Best

Mark

Thanks Mark. I still have a little work to do when things dry enough.
RAGIII


Hi Rick,

Beautiful wood color as we are used from you. I wonder how you manage to combine the build of two such difficult a/c and keep all this organized. Looking forward for your next update my friend.

Kind regards
Patrick
 

ORGANIZED ! I am going to show you  ;D I "should" be embarrassed but OH Well......

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe023_zps601f1aab.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe023_zps601f1aab.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe024_zpsc62d7474.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe024_zpsc62d7474.jpg.html)

RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on March 18, 2014, 12:46:04 AM
Well Rick I can clearly see two different aircrafts and a few little bottles. I meant the organization in the brains for planning the next steps. And you know every two days I have to clean up the mess on my bench.

Keep on the great work Rick

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on March 18, 2014, 01:09:00 AM
I will add my chirping to the admiration of your project, Rick.  Your wood colour is
great on the Albatros, very nice indeed.  I noticed you have used my work bench
as a model for yours. ;) ;D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on March 18, 2014, 04:35:55 AM
Brilliant progress, Amigo!  You're really flying right along on this project.  I love the golden tones of your woodgrain on the Albi.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 18, 2014, 06:28:59 AM
Well Rick I can clearly see two different aircrafts and a few little bottles. I meant the organization in the brains for planning the next steps. And you know every two days I have to clean up the mess on my bench.

Keep on the great work Rick

Kind regards
Patrick

My Brain probably looks like my bench  ;) As for determining on what part/assembly I tackle next it is usually dictated by a stopping point on the other kit.I then just follow DIRECTIONS!
RAGIII

I will add my chirping to the admiration of your project, Rick.  Your wood colour is
great on the Albatros, very nice indeed.  I noticed you have used my work bench
as a model for yours. ;) ;D

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Thanks Ernie, I appreciate your comments. As for the Desk, I think I hold the title for MESS!
RAGIII

Brilliant progress, Amigo!  You're really flying right along on this project.  I love the golden tones of your woodgrain on the Albi.
Cheers,
Bud

Bud, Thanks Amigo, I appreciate you following along. The Wood tones are what I normally do on Albatros Models, Polyscale CDL, Raw Sienna, then a mix of raw and burnt sienna. Blended and brushed together.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Des on March 18, 2014, 08:11:27 AM
I don't see a mess, all I see is a well used model desk  :)  You are making excellent progress Rick, like others have said the wood colour on the Albatros is beautiful.

Des.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 18, 2014, 11:20:04 PM
I don't see a mess, all I see is a well used model desk  :)  You are making excellent progress Rick, like others have said the wood colour on the Albatros is beautiful.

Des.

Thanks for the Compliment on the wood grain des. I appreciate your feedback! As for the work Desk, it is what it is  8)

I have a question regarding the Snipe rigging. I am adding a photo with circles to emphasize the area in question. Where did you,( or anyone who has built a Snipe), Anchor the line running through the hole in the fuselage?
TIA,
RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe013_crop_zps39adeec8.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/WNW%20Snipe/WNWsnipe013_crop_zps39adeec8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 19, 2014, 09:55:56 AM
I have painted the first coat of PC10. The pictures are not quite up to par. The color is on the brown side of PC 10 yet the pictures show a more greenish/brown. I guess if you can fool the camera then the PC 10 is about right. There are also 2 different shades on the fuselage. The first greenish brown and the fabric areas brownish. I will go back and do some Post Shading later....

RAGIII

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Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on March 19, 2014, 07:14:55 PM
Hi Rick,

Absolutely stunning color and painting my friend. You made a really good choice. Extremely nice to look at. Well done!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on March 19, 2014, 11:36:50 PM
Rick, you have very good sprayed.
What colour do you use?
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 20, 2014, 12:30:01 AM
It's shaping up very nicely Patrick.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 21, 2014, 11:40:09 AM
Hi Rick,

Absolutely stunning color and painting my friend. You made a really good choice. Extremely nice to look at. Well done!

Kind regards
Patrick

Thanks Patrick! As always I appreciate your comments and your following of my builds!
RAGIII

Rick, you have very good sprayed.
What colour do you use?
Martin

Martin, I appreciate your compliment! The Paint used was Gunze RLM 71 and Some Crimson Mixed in to lead it to the Brown range. Mixed with Lacquer Thinner it sprays very smoothly!
RAGIII

It's shaping up very nicely Patrick.

Best wishes
Nigel

Thanks Nigel, although it is Rick not Patrick  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Nigel Jackson on March 21, 2014, 04:59:12 PM
Oops,! Sorry Rick.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on March 22, 2014, 12:41:04 AM
Great progress, Rick!  The colour on the Snipe looks really good.  I look forward
to the next updates on the Albatros as well.  Well done, Rick!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 23, 2014, 06:07:34 AM
Great progress, Rick!  The colour on the Snipe looks really good.  I look forward
to the next updates on the Albatros as well.  Well done, Rick!

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Thanks Ernie, as I always I appreciate your comments and input!
I have made some progress in the last few days. I have Drilled all of the rigging holes in the snipe. ( The Albatros wing was drilled a couple of years ago). I am planning on taping off ribs and post shading the upper wings of the Snipe tonight or tomorrow.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on March 23, 2014, 09:12:40 AM
Hello Rick:

I like the PC10.  Looks right, but then almost shade of greenish brown would be right, it's all in the eyes of the beholder.  I am going to pull my Snipe out of the stash tonight and start doing some work on it.

Looking forward to the next update.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 23, 2014, 11:51:44 PM
Thanks mark, I appreciate your comments. I tend to struggle with PC 10. I think I have it nailed down then it looks too green or too brown, or too reddish/brown to my eyes  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 24, 2014, 02:28:58 AM
funny thing has happened. I just REALLY LOOKED at the WNW paint suggestions and Noticed they call for PC 12 on the Fabric surfaces. I have posted this question on the Camo and Markings section: All input is appreciated:

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=3221.0

RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on March 30, 2014, 09:06:43 PM
A small verbal update with pictures soon, maybe this evening  :-\
The Albatros: I have added some variations to the wood panels using future and Tamiya clear orange. I still need to add just a little more variation. I also have painted the tail feathers in Jasta 6 black and white stripes.

The Snipe: I have masked the 2" turnarounds on the lower wing surfaces and am ready to paint the CDL. I am still in limbo as to what my final shade of PC 10 will look like  ???

RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on April 01, 2014, 11:21:58 AM
Here are the Pictures I promised yesterday: Camera Batteries needed recharging.
Albatros: Jasta 6 Tail Feathers and Lozenge on 1/2 of the rudder. Aviattic 5 color.
Snipe: Unders painted in Tamiya Deck Tan. The bottom wing will have just a little see through going where oil seeped in internally.

 Next up Post shading the wings of the Snipe and Applying Lozenge to Albatros Wings.
RAGIII

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Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on April 01, 2014, 04:56:54 PM
Hi Rick,

Absolutely sweet colors. As I said before your a painting ace. You always produce the colors I have in mind, but am not able to obtain. The Alby is so magnificent to look at. Well done my friend!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: rhallinger on April 01, 2014, 08:16:53 PM
I really like your subtle wood tone on the Alby fuselage Rick. ;D  Reminds me of Brad Cancian's Voss D.III build.  How did you achieve that finish?  Tail feathers look very sharp as well!  Great work. :)

Cheers,

Bob
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: TomR1981 on April 02, 2014, 06:14:21 AM
Looking good Rick. The Albatros fuselage is just the colour I would picture an Albatros.

You'll be overtaking me with the Snipe soon too and I don't have an Albatros to worry about!

Great job on both.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on April 02, 2014, 06:45:57 AM
Good painting, Rick.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Epeeman on April 02, 2014, 07:55:37 AM
Rick,

Agree with others regarding your wood effect tones - nice and light and very realistic.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on April 02, 2014, 12:22:11 PM
I will do a Thanks to all post here. I really appreciate those following my builds! As for the Wood, remember I am a LESS is BEST person. I don't subscribe to showing too much GRAIN and or very heavy panel weathering showing strong lines. Here is the simple formula mentioned earlier:
 The Wood tones are what I normally do on Albatros Models, Polyscale CDL, Raw Sienna, then a mix of raw and burnt sienna. Blended and brushed together. It is really that simple! I then did something new for me adding just a touch of Tamiya Clear Orange on the panel lines and covering a couple of complete panels. Next is a clear coat of Kleer with Future shine.  By the way, someone mentioned my painting and Brad Cancians DIII Voss build in the same sentence. That is a first for me and Very complimentary! I think Brads DIII was his finest work on wood grain( perhaps a resin 2 seater Albatros? comes close) so I truly feel honored by the comment!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on April 05, 2014, 05:17:42 AM


Both builds are coming along nicely. I'm with you on the less is more on the grain and heavy panel lines !

Your Amigo,

Ed
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lcarroll on April 05, 2014, 05:54:43 AM
    Rick,
   Got to compliment you on the incredibly good "woodwork", it's spectacular. Nice scheme as well. You've got a couple more winners underway again.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on April 12, 2014, 11:47:11 AM


Both builds are coming along nicely. I'm with you on the less is more on the grain and heavy panel lines !

Your Amigo,

Ed

Thanks Amigo!

RAGIII

    Rick,
   Got to compliment you on the incredibly good "woodwork", it's spectacular. Nice scheme as well. You've got a couple more winners underway again.
Cheers,
Lance

Thanks so Much lance! I appreciate the comments!
RAGIII


I have made very little progress since my last update.(Work and Family). I have completed applying the Aviattic Lozenge to the lower wing surfaces. On my past builds I got the Pre Shading too ligh and it disappesred. On this one I may have gone too far the other way. That being said I think it will be OK once pink rib tapes are applied, along with crosses and some dirt and oilo on the lower wing:
RAGIII

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Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: dtomko on April 12, 2014, 12:09:38 PM
That shading looks terrific, Rick.

Drew
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on April 12, 2014, 01:06:43 PM
Rick, thanks for the explanation of your technique for the woodwork on the Albatros.
Excellent ideas and the proof is in the pudding.  Beautiful job!  I don't think you have
overdone the shading on the wings.  Still early stages.  I would think that it will look
pretty much perfect when you are finished. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on April 12, 2014, 05:36:20 PM
Hello Rick,

Like my friend Ernie, I think the shading is not overdone, on the contrary it is magnificent. The lozenge is extremely well done. Great progress my friend!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Des on April 12, 2014, 09:49:43 PM
Absolutely beautiful woodwork on the fuselage Rick, one of the best I have ever seen.

Des.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: xmald on April 12, 2014, 10:09:55 PM
I think I want to try your woodwork technique on of my Albatroses cause it looks mighty fine!
Another eye catcher in your collection I thinK!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on April 13, 2014, 04:17:43 AM
Truly remarkable work, Rick!  Everything from the subtle yellow wood tones to the lozenge is brilliant.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: vincentm on April 13, 2014, 04:45:54 AM
Beautiful job! How did you get the shading on each side of the ribs? did you mask the ribs using masking tape then oversprayed with clear black or "smoke"? I ask because I saw people doing so on camo'ed wings, but didn't know you could do it on lozenge-covered surfaces.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Epeeman on April 13, 2014, 07:29:50 AM
Rick,

Agree with everybody else here -

I still really like the light wood tone you have achieved for your DV.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on April 13, 2014, 09:07:12 AM
Hi Rick:

Wings look good.  I don't think the shading is overdone either.  I think with the tapes applied, some further weathering and some dull coat it will look great.  The decals arrived yesterday. Thanks a lot Rick, I will be putting them to good use shortly.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on April 13, 2014, 11:37:12 AM
Beautiful job! How did you get the shading on each side of the ribs? did you mask the ribs using masking tape then oversprayed with clear black or "smoke"? I ask because I saw people doing so on camo'ed wings, but didn't know you could do it on lozenge-covered surfaces.

As for my method of shading on this one I will say that I love to use Artists oils. The ribs are WELL defined so I use a mixture of burnt sienna and black. I just carfully brush it along the sides of the rib, spread out and blend with a Q Tip, and all is ready. On this one I did overspray the shading with some Tamiya Gloss White to tone it down a little. The NORMAL Method for pre shading the ribs would be as you described, Tape them off then spray Tamiya Smoke or a black mixture, or something similar. Pre shading on Aviattic decals works out well as they are transparent and anything you lay down prior to application shows through. IHTH,
RAGIII
PS: You can also Post shade if you have the nerve to tape over the Lozenge decals like Coyote Magic/Bud.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: uncletony on April 13, 2014, 12:04:06 PM
Looking good! I think a little tweakage to your camera white balance setting would help show off your hard work even better.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on April 16, 2014, 09:26:43 AM
Ernie,Patrick, Bud, Des Vincentm,Dave,Mark, and Bo,
Thanks for the kind comments! I have now put the Lozenge on the uppers. There are a few glitches on the edges but fortunately the tapes will cover any sins. I do have one difficulty which I am sure is self created. When trying to trim off the overlap the elasticity of the film doesn't allow a clean cut. The film seems to stretch instead of slicing off. I know of no one else having this difficulty so what am I doing wrong?
Here are the pictures:
RAGIII

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Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lcarroll on April 16, 2014, 01:11:19 PM
Rick,
   You are not alone on the difficulty trimming this stuff. By coincidence I have spent the better part of the past two days applying Aviattic's Lozenge to the flying surfaces of the Fokker DVII (OAW) I'm working on. I'm amazed at how tough and thick this stuff is, and yet it still snuggles down over detail as well as any Decal I've ever used. I'm using brand new #11 Blades to trim the stuff however, discovering the "elastic" qualities of it with the very first piece, I'm now trimming and cutting to an "anal" degree before applying it to avoid the challenges. I've tried files and sand paper, no go!
  I'd say work ahead on the trimming in the dry fit stage to reduce the trimming requirement post application. This product is definitely new to me, and I'm surprised there haven't been previous remarks on this topic.
  Your wings look great; I wasn't confident enough to try pre-shading on my very first attempt at Aviattic lozenge so Il be post shading this one.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on April 16, 2014, 01:33:03 PM
Rick, the wings look fantastic!  To keep the decal from pulling, replace the blade the very instant it begins to pull, Amigo.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Des on April 16, 2014, 03:18:32 PM
The wings are looking fantastic Rick. Have you tried trimming the decals with a brand new No.11 scalpel blade, these are a lot sharper than the No11 exacto blades, just a thought.

Des.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on April 16, 2014, 06:46:45 PM
Hello Rick,

Your lozenge looks fantastic my friend. I even had this problem with the rudder decals of the Nieuport who were overlapping. Even with a new blade it was very difficult to have a clean cut. Anyway you made a very good progress. Keep on the fine job!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on April 16, 2014, 10:00:04 PM
Well done on the lozenge, despite the problems with the elasticity.  I appreciate you
letting us know of the troubles...something to watch for.  I'm enjoying your build and
look forward to the next installments.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on April 16, 2014, 11:08:24 PM
Rick,
   You are not alone on the difficulty trimming this stuff. By coincidence I have spent the better part of the past two days applying Aviattic's Lozenge to the flying surfaces of the Fokker DVII (OAW) I'm working on. I'm amazed at how tough and thick this stuff is, and yet it still snuggles down over detail as well as any Decal I've ever used. I'm using brand new #11 Blades to trim the stuff however, discovering the "elastic" qualities of it with the very first piece, I'm now trimming and cutting to an "anal" degree before applying it to avoid the challenges. I've tried files and sand paper, no go!
  I'd say work ahead on the trimming in the dry fit stage to reduce the trimming requirement post application. This product is definitely new to me, and I'm surprised there haven't been previous remarks on this topic.
  Your wings look great; I wasn't confident enough to try pre-shading on my very first attempt at Aviattic lozenge so Il be post shading this one.
Cheers,
Lance

Thanks for the input and comments Lance! I think you have hit on the solution. Measure TWICE and Trim NOT  8) As long as the bird you are doing has tape on the trailing edge it wouldn't matter if you left a thin uncovered line at the rear of the wing or the very thin edge uncovered!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on April 16, 2014, 11:15:17 PM
Rick, the wings look fantastic!  To keep the decal from pulling, replace the blade the very instant it begins to pull, Amigo.
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Bud, I appreciate your comments greatly. I do have a tendency to use a blade a bit too long  :-[
RAGIII

The wings are looking fantastic Rick. Have you tried trimming the decals with a brand new No.11 scalpel blade, these are a lot sharper than the No11 exacto blades, just a thought.

Des.

Des Thanks and I will have to find some of those scalpel blades and give them a try!
RAGIII

Hello Rick,

Your lozenge looks fantastic my friend. I even had this problem with the rudder decals of the Nieuport who were overlapping. Even with a new blade it was very difficult to have a clean cut. Anyway you made a very good progress. Keep on the fine job!

Kind regards
Patrick


Patrick,
I appreciate your support and comments!
RAGIII

Well done on the lozenge, despite the problems with the elasticity.  I appreciate you
letting us know of the troubles...something to watch for.  I'm enjoying your build and
look forward to the next installments.

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Ernie, as always your comments are appreciated. I think Lance has the ultimate solution as I stated above!
RAGIII

Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lcarroll on April 17, 2014, 12:34:48 AM
The wings are looking fantastic Rick. Have you tried trimming the decals with a brand new No.11 scalpel blade, these are a lot sharper than the No11 exacto blades, just a thought.

Des.

  I have a drawer full of those little beauties, my impression was the opposite however I just tried one on the stuff; definitely a lot better however the film is still a "bear" to cut cleanly. Thanks Des, it was a good thought. 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: jknaus on April 17, 2014, 01:26:19 AM
Beautiful work. Really enjoying this(these) build(s).
I think Aviattic mention you could sand the decal trim. I havent tried it yet to see what would happen.
James
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: uncletony on April 17, 2014, 01:44:29 AM
Beautiful work. Really enjoying this(these) build(s).
I think Aviattic mention you could sand the decal trim. I havent tried it yet to see what would happen.
James

did anyone try clear coating, then sanding?
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on April 17, 2014, 02:31:36 AM
Beautiful work. Really enjoying this(these) build(s).
I think Aviattic mention you could sand the decal trim. I havent tried it yet to see what would happen.
James

did anyone try clear coating, then sanding?

Bo,
I am glad you mentioned that because the thought occurred to me AFTERWARDS  :-[ It may make a difference
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on April 17, 2014, 03:13:03 AM
Beautiful work. Really enjoying this(these) build(s).
I think Aviattic mention you could sand the decal trim. I havent tried it yet to see what would happen.
James

James,
Thanks for dropping in and the very positive comment!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on April 17, 2014, 03:26:55 AM
It Looks great your Aviatik Lozenge, Rick.
Very well done.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Tom Cobbley on April 18, 2014, 05:20:32 AM
I use good old fashioned rasor blades. Cheap as chips. use each edge once. works a treat.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on April 18, 2014, 05:43:47 AM
Hi Rick:

I have found the same problem.  LIke Lance I trim as much as possible before putting them on.  I find a lot of Solva Set decal solution will help with folding them around corners and edges too.  I think Aviattic is trying to resize them IIRC to aleveiate the trimming.  It is certainly and interesting material they use.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on April 18, 2014, 12:01:44 PM
It Looks great your Aviatik Lozenge, Rick.
Very well done.
Martin

Thanks Martin, As always I appreciate your comments and following my build!
RAGIII

I use good old fashioned rasor blades. Cheap as chips. use each edge once. works a treat.

An Idea worth trying. Now, where do I find good old razor blades  8)
RAGIII

Hi Rick:

I have found the same problem.  LIke Lance I trim as much as possible before putting them on.  I find a lot of Solva Set decal solution will help with folding them around corners and edges too.  I think Aviattic is trying to resize them IIRC to aleveiate the trimming.  It is certainly and interesting material they use.

Best

Mark

Mark,
It is good to know that a modeler of your talent is having the same small issue with the decals. Like I said, trimming before application seems to be the answer!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: jknaus on April 19, 2014, 08:41:26 PM
Both are coming along very nicely. Really enjoying this.
James
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on April 20, 2014, 08:40:33 AM
Decals look good, glad to hear they do snuggle down !!!

Ed
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on April 20, 2014, 11:33:45 AM
Both are coming along very nicely. Really enjoying this.
James

Thanks James! I am happy to have you along for the build and appreciate your comments!
RAGIII

Decals look good, glad to hear they do snuggle down !!!

Ed

Thanks Amigo! The decals are awesome as I have said!!
RAGIII

Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on April 30, 2014, 12:00:46 PM
I have finished painting the wings and fuselage on the Snipe. The rear portion of the Turtle deck is panted service grey as seen on several wartime Snipes. The wings have had pastels applied and were oversprayed with a slightly lighter and more OD overspray to give a little more color leaning towards PC10. Now just a little touch up and weathering. I am very close to mounting the wings and moving on... finally.

The Albatros has had the rib tapes and leading and trailing edge tapes applied. Again just some minor touch up and I will be ready to proceed:

RAGIII
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Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Epeeman on April 30, 2014, 07:15:16 PM
All coming along sweet now, Rick - looking at the pictures you would never know you were having problems trimming the lozenge decals - all looks very neat, actually.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on April 30, 2014, 10:48:36 PM
Hello Rick,

Great progress my friend. Shading is great and I love your color very much. Keep on this great work!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on April 30, 2014, 11:00:58 PM
Rick a great update about painting and lozenge decals.
What rip tapes do you use?
And what colour up and under wing?
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on May 01, 2014, 12:16:03 AM
Hello Rick:

Both wings looking good.  As was mentioned, one would never know you had difficulty wtih the lozenge decals.  Looking forward to further progress.  I joined the Snipe "hunt" as well.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on May 01, 2014, 01:50:25 AM
Both the Snipe and the Albatros are coming along beautifully.  The lozenge looks flawless.  Brilliant work, Amigo!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: rhallinger on May 01, 2014, 03:31:32 AM
Rick, all finishes look first-rate, especially the lozenge.  These will be beautiful models cwhen complete. ;D
Keep up the very fine work!

Cheers,

Bob
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: TomR1981 on May 01, 2014, 04:45:06 AM
Both looking great Rick. I'm hoping to get the wings on my Snipe over the weekend, looks like we're just about at the same stage.

I think this Snipe hunt will be quite fruitful.

Tom
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 01, 2014, 11:28:33 AM
All coming along sweet now, Rick - looking at the pictures you would never know you were having problems trimming the lozenge decals - all looks very neat, actually.

Regards

Dave

Thanks Dave! As always your comments are appreciated!! I want to be clear the Lozenge presents no trouble as long as you MEAURE/Outline the wings carefully! Trimming excess when you don't is the Issue!!!!!!
RAGIII

Hello Rick,

Great progress my friend. Shading is great and I love your color very much. Keep on this great work!

Kind regards
Patrick

Thanks Patrick! I do enjoy the shading now, took me a while/2 or 3 Models to get comfortable with the method... still learning as I go. I am very happy in particular with the Upper surface Snipe Shading. In 1 to 1 viewing it looks just like I wanted  :D
RAGIII

Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 01, 2014, 11:36:41 AM
Rick a great update about painting and lozenge decals.
What rip tapes do you use?
And what colour up and under wing?
Martin

Martin,
I appreciate your comments! As for the Rib Tapes, I used WNW rib tapes available as a separate item on their website. As for the color I used the Pink for an aircraft from the Albatros factory Johannistal,(Spelling?) on both upper and under. The WNW sheet gives Pink, blue, and CDL.

RAGIII

Hello Rick:

Both wings looking good.  As was mentioned, one would never know you had difficulty wtih the lozenge decals.  Looking forward to further progress.  I joined the Snipe "hunt" as well.

Best

Mark

yes Mark I saw that you are doing the same bird as I am  ;) You actually changed my plans a little in that I only did the rear panel behind the cockpit in grey instead of all of the grey as from the factory. Wanted mine to be a little different. Actually as I am doing it in overall PC 10 mine should be Starkly different  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 01, 2014, 11:40:31 AM
Both the Snipe and the Albatros are coming along beautifully.  The lozenge looks flawless.  Brilliant work, Amigo!
Cheers,
Bud

Thanks Amigo! Not Flawless but I am HAPPY!.
RAGIII
Rick, all finishes look first-rate, especially the lozenge.  These will be beautiful models cwhen complete. ;D
Keep up the very fine work!

Cheers,

Bob

Thanks Bob! I appreciate your comments and following of my build!
RAGIII

Both looking great Rick. I'm hoping to get the wings on my Snipe over the weekend, looks like we're just about at the same stage.

I think this Snipe hunt will be quite fruitful.

Tom

Thanks Tom! I am certainly following your build to take in some pointers. With Mark building one we have some great Modeling to keep pace with on this Snipe Hunt!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 05, 2014, 10:19:38 AM
A small update: The Snipe has had its upper wing and fuselage markings applied. I used the "Original" placement of the serial number, supplied by WNW, to show the aircraft as it might have appeared during the last weeks of the War. The lower wing is attached as are the cabane struts. WNW makes the strut attachment easy! Just don't hold your airbrush in your mouth to switch positions on the hand holding the model when gloss coating. You could drop the airbrush and hit the model, breaking a strut etc.  :-X The repair went well by the way....
RAGIII

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Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: treadhead1944 on May 05, 2014, 10:50:18 AM
Absolutely stunning Rick. I am taking notes
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on May 05, 2014, 12:19:54 PM
NICE, Rick!  Brilliant decal work.  Really brings out the brown in the paint.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 05, 2014, 01:06:32 PM
Absolutely stunning Rick. I am taking notes

Thanks for the compliment! This kit is very well engineered. The best of the 4 I have worked on!!
RAGIII

NICE, Rick!  Brilliant decal work.  Really brings out the brown in the paint.
Cheers,
Bud

Thanks Amigo! Yes the color is decidedly brown, despite what my camera shows!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on May 05, 2014, 03:54:49 PM
Hello Rick,

The decals look teriffic on this beautiful bird. This is really a perfect build. Great work my friend.

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on May 05, 2014, 10:29:13 PM
Sorry for your mistake Rick.
You have made a great work  until now.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lcarroll on May 06, 2014, 12:22:31 AM
Looking very sharp Rick, and the colours are perfect. Appears to be a bad weekend for minor accidents; in a perverse way I'm glad I'm not the only one who had to do some "Battle Damage Repair" in the last few days...........misery likes company as they say! :-\
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on May 06, 2014, 12:33:11 AM
Hi Rick:

Looking good so far.  I am a bit behind on this one.  No work this past weekend.  I like your PC12 and the back dating to wartime service.  It is looking good, accidents notwithstanidng.   Looking forward to your next update. 

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 06, 2014, 03:33:26 AM
Hello Rick,

The decals look teriffic on this beautiful bird. This is really a perfect build. Great work my friend.

Kind regards
Patrick

Thanks for your continued support Patrick, it is appreciated!
RAGIII

Sorry for your mistake Rick.
You have made a great work  until now.
Martin

Thanks Martin. I appreciate your comment!
RAGIII

Looking very sharp Rick, and the colours are perfect. Appears to be a bad weekend for minor accidents; in a perverse way I'm glad I'm not the only one who had to do some "Battle Damage Repair" in the last few days...........misery likes company as they say! :-\
Cheers,
Lance

Thanks Lance, and yes a weekend of Minor annoyances. The plus is we both overcame the self created obstacles  :o
RAGIII


Hi Rick:

Looking good so far.  I am a bit behind on this one.  No work this past weekend.  I like your PC12 and the back dating to wartime service.  It is looking good, accidents notwithstanidng.   Looking forward to your next update. 

Best

Mark

Thanks Mark, I have as stated, used photos of other 43 sq. birds taken during the war to base my "Assumptions" on. One other option is a tiny serial # on the fin....
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Epeeman on May 06, 2014, 05:28:59 AM
Snipe's coming along nicely, Rick -

The trials and tribulations of model making - don't we all just love 'em.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 07, 2014, 11:10:15 AM
Snipe's coming along nicely, Rick -

The trials and tribulations of model making - don't we all just love 'em.

Regards

Dave

Thanks Dave! I appreciate the comments as always.
As for those tribulations, nothing major but I created them myself.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on May 07, 2014, 10:05:25 PM
Just catching up on your work, Rick.  The snipe is really looking the business.
You really are doing a superb job on her.  The decal work looks amazing.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Rob Hart on May 08, 2014, 05:51:08 AM
Nice work on the paint and decals. I wasn't a fan of the Snipe, but after seeing your build I ordered the CS kit, BTW, maybe it's time to invest in an airbrush holder or a service dog that will hold the airbrush in his/her mouth :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: vincentm on May 08, 2014, 08:50:14 AM
Thanks for the explanations on rib shading, RAGIII. I had never heard about making that with oils but I like the idea because I'm used to shading with oils, and I really don't feel comfortable with the idea of using masking tape on lozenge decals (or any kind of decals)! I already had a bad experience with that on a biplane of the 30s; the tape ripped the underlying decals off when I removed it...
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 08, 2014, 11:52:43 AM
Just catching up on your work, Rick.  The snipe is really looking the business.
You really are doing a superb job on her.  The decal work looks amazing.

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Thanks Ernie. I greatly appreciate your looking in and your comments!
RAGIII

Nice work on the paint and decals. I wasn't a fan of the Snipe, but after seeing your build I ordered the CS kit, BTW, maybe it's time to invest in an airbrush holder or a service dog that will hold the airbrush in his/her mouth :)

Rob,
I am still Laughing! Actually I had a screw that is attached to my paint booth just inches away and Still I tried the Mouth Method  :-[ But that Service animal would be cool  ;D The more important thing is that if my build in any way inspires a Modeler of your caliber, or any modeler to get a kit and build, then my purpose for posting is accomplished. Thanks for the great compliment!
RAGIII

Thanks for the explanations on rib shading, RAGIII. I had never heard about making that with oils but I like the idea because I'm used to shading with oils, and I really don't feel comfortable with the idea of using masking tape on lozenge decals (or any kind of decals)! I already had a bad experience with that on a biplane of the 30s; the tape ripped the underlying decals off when I removed it...

No problem, I am glad the explanation helped! You can also Post shade with oils but care is needed to make sure you don't get too heavy handed.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 10, 2014, 11:27:19 PM
Further progress on the Snipe: The upper wing is now attached. WNW REALLY makes this an easy process with the struts having very positive locating holes with specific shapes for upper and lower wing attachments. The Positive alignment of the cabanes is the key here. They are pretty much FOOL PROOF! I did complicate matters a little  ::) I felt I would have difficulty aligning ALL of those struts if I glued them on the lower wing then attached the upper. So I secured the upper wing to the cabanes, let them dry and then attached the outer struts. After they were dry I moved on to the inner struts. This was a relatively simple process with the exception of the very last strut. With very little give in the wing the last one took a little effort to snap into place. I should have started with the inner struts as there would be more flex at the tips. Later today I plan on painting the rudder stripes and attaching then I will be ready to rig. I will hold off on that process in order to catch up on the Albatros.....

RAGIII
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Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: TomR1981 on May 11, 2014, 12:53:53 AM
Looking very nice.

I agree about the cabane struts, for mine I had thought of making a jig but on dry fitting the cabanes and top wing everything lined up perfectly. It really is fool proof. I put mine together the same way, although I did the inner struts before the outer ones, next time I would probably just glue them all into the lower wing first.
Incidentally, before I fitted my top wing, I noticed a hairline crack right in the centre section where the bracket for the aldis sight goes. The plastic is really thin here. I had removed it from the sprue and painted it quite early on, next time I'll keep it on the sprue for longer.

I'm looking forward to seeing this one finished, and some more of the Albatros too.

Tom
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on May 11, 2014, 01:44:55 AM
Rick your Snipe looks very great.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on May 11, 2014, 03:58:59 AM
Hello Rick,

Very well done my friend, and thank you for the tutorial to fix multi strut wings. Your Snipe is looking awesome! You are near the finish and I will be waiting there to applause you.

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2014, 09:03:15 AM
Looking very nice.

I agree about the cabane struts, for mine I had thought of making a jig but on dry fitting the cabanes and top wing everything lined up perfectly. It really is fool proof. I put mine together the same way, although I did the inner struts before the outer ones, next time I would probably just glue them all into the lower wing first.
Incidentally, before I fitted my top wing, I noticed a hairline crack right in the centre section where the bracket for the aldis sight goes. The plastic is really thin here. I had removed it from the sprue and painted it quite early on, next time I'll keep it on the sprue for longer.

I'm looking forward to seeing this one finished, and some more of the Albatros too.

Tom

Thanks Tom! I appreciate the comments and confirmation on the excellence of the Engineering of the kit struts/attachment. As for that Aldis sight I was warned that it is a difficult item in the construction. Sooooo... I forgot all about it! I now have to post install the windscreen and sight. Looking at the current state of construction I think I can add all of the parts through the upper wing opening and the gap between the wings  :-[
RAGIII

Rick your Snipe looks very great.
Martin

Thanks Martin, I appreciate your continued following of my build!
RAGIII

Hello Rick,

Very well done my friend, and thank you for the tutorial to fix multi strut wings. Your Snipe is looking awesome! You are near the finish and I will be waiting there to applause you.

Kind regards
Patrick


Thank you for your compliment Patrick! As for the tutorial I don't know if this would work for ALL Multi Strut aircraft but with this kit and it's engineering there is really no way to Screw it up  :o
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on May 11, 2014, 09:33:51 AM
Stunning work, as usual, Amigo!  Almost done!
Cheers.
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2014, 10:21:09 AM
Stunning work, as usual, Amigo!  Almost done!
Cheers.
Bud

Thanks Amigo! I always appreciate your comments!! Here is the last update on the Snipe until the Albie catches up: Rudder Stripes painted on. Fin and Rudder attached.

RAGIII

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Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on May 11, 2014, 09:43:19 PM
Wow, wow and wow, Rick!  Absolutely gorgeous job, better every look
we get of her.  Well done, my friend. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2014, 10:07:37 PM
Wow, wow and wow, Rick!  Absolutely gorgeous job, better every look
we get of her.  Well done, my friend. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Thanks Ernie, I truly appreciate your kind comments!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on May 12, 2014, 01:26:21 AM
Stunning build Rick.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: justin1980 on May 12, 2014, 02:44:27 AM
Fantastic build, it still amazes me the quality of the builds on this site!  Impressive looking snipe!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mc65 on May 12, 2014, 04:03:59 AM
sigh!
I would be able to be so clean as you in the assembling and painting those kites.... stunning work, rag!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Epeeman on May 12, 2014, 04:42:37 AM
Great progress on your Snipe, now Rick -

Getting ever closer to finish line on this one, mate ...........

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on May 12, 2014, 05:02:03 PM
Really lovely Rick! I admire your paint master capacities. This is a top build!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 13, 2014, 11:11:35 AM
Stunning build Rick.
Martin

Thanks for the Very Generous Comment Martin!
RAGIII

Fantastic build, it still amazes me the quality of the builds on this site!  Impressive looking snipe!

Thank you Justin! You are certainly correct about the quality of the builds here. Mine are  in the Middle of the range... IMHO  :)
RAGIII

sigh!
I would be able to be so clean as you in the assembling and painting those kites.... stunning work, rag!

Thanks for the kind comments! You will surpass my work I am sure. Just takes practice!
RAGIII

Really lovely Rick! I admire your paint master capacities. This is a top build!

Kind regards
Patrick


As always, thank you Patrick my Friend!
RAGIII

Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on May 14, 2014, 05:14:10 AM
Hi Rick:

Just catching up a bit here.  Really looks the business Rick.  I am pretty much doing the same as you.  I like the painted on stripes on the rudder.  Did you have any difficulty attaching the rudder?  I am a little behind you and will comment on the upper wing, but I am sure it will be a cinch.  Looking forward to your next update.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on May 14, 2014, 08:00:49 AM
Really looking sharp !!!! Await next photos.

Ed
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2014, 11:07:57 AM
Hi Rick:

Just catching up a bit here.  Really looks the business Rick.  I am pretty much doing the same as you.  I like the painted on stripes on the rudder.  Did you have any difficulty attaching the rudder?  I am a little behind you and will comment on the upper wing, but I am sure it will be a cinch.  Looking forward to your next update.

Best

Mark

Thanks for the comments Mark! I am looking forward to seeing your "Take" on the Scheme! No difficulty with the rudder and the fin should get sturdier after rigging. The whole thing may or may not sit a little high. I know Des adjusted the height, I did not. As for the stripes I just felt it was easier and cleaner to paint. I will add a little post shading later. I am sure you will have No Issues with the Wings!
RAGIII

Really looking sharp !!!! Await next photos.

Ed

Thanks Amigo! I always appreciate you dropping in! I am now working on the Albatros Engine, then will attach the lower wings and hopefully the upper.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 17, 2014, 10:20:59 AM
I have spent the last two days working on the Albatros. The band with chevrons seemed to be a simple matter. It proved to be quite a challenge, AT LEAST TO ME! I first masked the white band, then painted. No real issue here although a little of the wood grain painted fuselage lifted when I removed the mask. No big deal I can handle the touch up. I then attempted to use black decal strips to make the chevrons. Failed TOTALLY! In the end I enlarged the profile from the Osprey book, cut out the chevron that represented the one on the "Most" flat surface of the fuselage, and replicated it numerous times on Post it note paper. I applied the post it chevrons in position and outlined with Tamiya tape. I removed the post it note mask and sprayed black. This has me close enough that I can go back and touch up using black and white decal strips to even things out. I have also applied the serial number to the left fin. I will touch up all of the glitches on my next off of work rotation!
RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandalbatros006_zps7b98b685.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandalbatros006_zps7b98b685.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandalbatros005_zps38d1d96c.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandalbatros005_zps38d1d96c.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandalbatros010_zpscf5c8886.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandalbatros010_zpscf5c8886.jpg.html)

PS: Funny thing about those chevrons. Anything but a Straight on shot makes them look Very Wonky. The good news is that the photo of the real aircraft has the same thing going on!


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandalbatros004_crop_zps3d573651.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandalbatros004_crop_zps3d573651.jpg.html)






Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Des on May 17, 2014, 11:04:00 AM
Beautiful work on the Albatros Rick, your technique to apply the white band and chevrons worked really well and looks great, this is shaping up to be an excellent model and the Snipe is also looking great.

Des.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: treadhead1944 on May 17, 2014, 11:54:17 AM
Looking good Rick!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on May 17, 2014, 12:50:25 PM
VERY nice work on the fuselage band, Amigo!  Masking that curved fuselage is extremely challenging and you pulled it off beautifully.  I know that once you've done all the touch up, it'll look sharp as a tack.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on May 18, 2014, 01:58:51 AM
Wow a wounderful work Rick.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 18, 2014, 10:57:39 AM
Great progress on your Snipe, now Rick -

Getting ever closer to finish line on this one, mate ...........

Regards

Dave

Dave,
Sorry I seemed to have Missed your comment earlier :-[ As always I appreciate you looking in!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 18, 2014, 10:59:57 AM
Beautiful work on the Albatros Rick, your technique to apply the white band and chevrons worked really well and looks great, this is shaping up to be an excellent model and the Snipe is also looking great.

Des.

Thanks Des! A compliment from you is always a boost to a mere Mortal Modeler  8)
RAGIII

Looking good Rick!

Thanks for looking in! Your comment is appreciated!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 18, 2014, 11:01:19 AM
VERY nice work on the fuselage band, Amigo!  Masking that curved fuselage is extremely challenging and you pulled it off beautifully.  I know that once you've done all the touch up, it'll look sharp as a tack.
Cheers,
Bud

Thanks Amigo! I hope I meet your Expectations  ;D
RAGIII

Wow a wounderful work Rick.
Martin

Thank You Martin, You have been a great support throughout my builds!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on May 18, 2014, 04:38:55 PM
Hello Rick,

You have done a wonderful job on the Albatros. You seem to meet and tackle every challenge that comes on your way. Great modeling my friend!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 19, 2014, 11:06:02 AM
Hello Rick,

You have done a wonderful job on the Albatros. You seem to meet and tackle every challenge that comes on your way. Great modeling my friend!

Kind regards
Patrick

Thanks Patrick, I really appreciate your comments! I try to persevere!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 24, 2014, 10:58:37 AM
My weekend/off rotation has been spent working on the engine and a failed attempt at using Anchors for the rigging. Lets start with the anchors. I used Bobs wire anchors and superglued them into my pre drilled holes. This was achore for me as my eyesight just isn't that good. Once I had them installed in the upper wing I ran some monofilament through the loop. The slightest amount of pressure pulled the anchor out. Now I KNOW this is MY FAULT but I decided to just go with what I am familiar with... so I pulled all of the anchors out with little difficulty. Next up the Engine. First I ordered Taurus parts for the Mercedes... Yep I ordered them for the DIII instead of the DIIa/AU. So I used just the Valve Springs and figured I would use the rest in the future for One of My other(Roden), Albatros builds. I had all of the springs attached as well as the lifters. I actually had the firing order correct also. Then I began to break off as many as I had installed. In the end I used almost 2 sets of springs and All of my lifters. Looks OK but not as I had intended. Finally the plug wires and plugs. These are IMPRESSIONIST modeling. make it look close enough using smoke and mirrors  8) As the last photos will show not much will be seen. Weathering is artists oils.

RAGIII
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(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandAlbatros007_crop_zps1c06d1d7.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandAlbatros007_crop_zps1c06d1d7.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandAlbatros011_crop_zps6a6443d8.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandAlbatros011_crop_zps6a6443d8.jpg.html)


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Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: uncletony on May 24, 2014, 10:59:58 AM
That looks nice Rick!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: vincentm on May 24, 2014, 11:43:35 AM
Beautiful-looking engine. I dare telling so, as the D-III is the only WWI engine I know in details a bit, at the moment...
I'm currently trying to inspire from your shading on the lozenges, using oils too. But it looks like my lozenges were too dark prior I started so the shading doesn't show up that much...Guess I should have applied some matt varnish or find a way to fade-out the lozenges first?
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on May 24, 2014, 01:18:28 PM
Fantastic work on the engine, Amigo!  Sorry about the anchors.  I always have a few pull out on each of my builds.  I just re-drill the hole, twist a new eyelet, and glue it back in.  I made up a special drill just for that purpose: a bamboo skewer with a no.80 bit glued into the end of it.  Looking forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on May 24, 2014, 07:15:40 PM
Hello Rick,

This is one of the most wonderful engines I saw to now. Great work such a nice detail and painting. This puts you on the highest step of the modeling ladder. Stunning my friend!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: TomR1981 on May 24, 2014, 08:02:44 PM
The Mercedes looks good to me, I like the weathering.

Tom
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on May 24, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
Grat work on your engine Rick. ;D
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lcarroll on May 24, 2014, 11:21:37 PM
   You've overcome a few minor set-backs very nicely here Rick. There's nothing quite as nasty as that sinking feeling when you tighten the inevitable, (in my case), last or second last run of the Rigging Sequence and the line goes "Pop............slack"!  As I often say, if the odds are 50/50 I'll lose nine times out of ten! I'm wondering in this case if you haven't experienced a bad or deteriorated batch of CA? Normally they weld in very well with minimum glue; I've broken the odd loop and in trying to remove it for replacement found it near impossible to get the shaft out, had to drill a new hole beside it..
   Nice fix on the engine as well; I've switched Merc. versions for the same reason and, in many cases, the version installed is speculative anyway. Great Thread, I'm enjoying following your progress and some really pretty work thus far.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: bobs_buckles on May 25, 2014, 12:55:12 AM
Rick,
Sorry to hear the wee buckles keep popping out of their fixing points.

This is how I do it - coming straight from the horses mouth!

Drill all pilot holes at the angle of the rigging run. Make sure you go deep enough, but not deep enough to strike oil  ;)
Buy some quality (fresh) CA glue - I use Slow ZAP for all my eyelet gluing. This glue allows you some time to work before gripping.
 
Trim the eyelet shank to size. Dry fit the eyelet. You want the eye of the eyelet to be just proud of the pilot hole.

Pick up the eye of the eyelet with tweezers, dip the shank in glue, but don't go crazy! Slide the eyelet in place, but remember - just proud! If you feel you don't have enough glue on the shank, quickly pull it out, add more and slide back in.

Allow plenty of time to cure.

I hope this helps.
Cheers,
Bob


(http://www.micromark.com/RS/SR/Product/80879_R.jpg)

Handling eyelets

(http://www.bobsbuckles.co.uk/images/working-with-eyelets.jpg)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: jknaus on May 25, 2014, 08:03:57 AM
Looking really good. Bummer about the eyelets. I really like the Albatross, but the one I did ended in disaster. This is making me want to try again.
James
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Epeeman on May 25, 2014, 08:07:40 AM
Rick,

Good work on your Albatros - superb engine especially around the intake manifold.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 25, 2014, 11:42:03 AM
Rick,
Sorry to hear the wee buckles keep popping out of their fixing points.

This is how I do it - coming straight from the horses mouth!

Drill all pilot holes at the angle of the rigging run. Make sure you go deep enough, but not deep enough to strike oil  ;)
Buy some quality (fresh) CA glue - I use Slow ZAP for all my eyelet gluing. This glue allows you some time to work before gripping.
 
Trim the eyelet shank to size. Dry fit the eyelet. You want the eye of the eyelet to be just proud of the pilot hole.

Pick up the eye of the eyelet with tweezers, dip the shank in glue, but don't go crazy! Slide the eyelet in place, but remember - just proud! If you feel you don't have enough glue on the shank, quickly pull it out, add more and slide back in.

Allow plenty of time to cure.

I hope this helps.
Cheers,
Bob



Bob, I am answering your response first as I appreciate the Tutorial! Please Note that I stated " I am Sure it is my fault".  I originally planned my usual rigging method of running the lines all of the way through the wings. Afterwards I thought it might be better if I used eyelets as anchors with the lozenge covered wings. So... I think my holes were too big, the super glue old etc. I will try again in the future with a more well thought out plan!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 25, 2014, 11:46:39 AM
That looks nice Rick!

Thanks Bo, I will take a that looks nice from you any day! I also think I should get extra points for daring to show an Albatros build while yours is ongoing  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on May 25, 2014, 12:20:47 PM
Rick, you are doing a super job!  I think the engine is absolutely stunning. Your
painting of the band and chevrons is first-rate.  Too bad about the troubles
with the eyelets, but with your talents, I have no doubts you will succeed beautifully.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on May 25, 2014, 12:29:31 PM
Hi Rick:

Don't beat yourself up too bad.  It looks spectacular from where I sit at the keyboard.  Once in the engine compartment, it really looks the business.  I understand and appreciate your frustration, I have been there, but; we persever, as you have done admirably.  Your build is looking great.  Looking forward to following  you as you continue on.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 26, 2014, 11:37:58 AM
Beautiful-looking engine. I dare telling so, as the D-III is the only WWI engine I know in details a bit, at the moment...
I'm currently trying to inspire from your shading on the lozenges, using oils too. But it looks like my lozenges were too dark prior I started so the shading doesn't show up that much...Guess I should have applied some matt varnish or find a way to fade-out the lozenges first?

James thank you for your very nice comments! They are appreciated!
RAGIII

Fantastic work on the engine, Amigo!  Sorry about the anchors.  I always have a few pull out on each of my builds.  I just re-drill the hole, twist a new eyelet, and glue it back in.  I made up a special drill just for that purpose: a bamboo skewer with a no.80 bit glued into the end of it.  Looking forward to the next update.
Cheers,
Bud

Bud, as always I appreciate you looking in and all of your encouragement!
RAGIII

Hello Rick,

This is one of the most wonderful engines I saw to now. Great work such a nice detail and painting. This puts you on the highest step of the modeling ladder. Stunning my friend!

Kind regards
Patrick


Patrick,
As always your very kind comments are appreciated! A little bit more on my Impressionist Modeling: You will notice that the wires on the rear do not actually go into a/the tube on the engine side. This will look like it does when what can be seen with the panels on is viewed. Modelers like Bo, Duplicate the details whether they are seen or not! Thus my term that I use Smoke and Mirrors! I am far and away from the top of the heap here. I know my place and it is presenting techniques that an AVERAGE to BEGINNING Modeler can look at and say" I CAN DO THAT"!  I am QUITE comfortable in that position!!
RAGIII

Tom ,Martin, Lance, Dave, Ernie, and Mark,
I really appreciate how all of you follow my builds and offer encouragement and advice! You are shining examples of what makes this forum great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: uncletony on May 26, 2014, 12:05:55 PM
Rick, I dig what you are saying about your impressionistic approach. Earlier today I used that term in another thread to describe what I was after, but it was lazy, lexiconically speaking... :)

Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 26, 2014, 12:57:37 PM
Rick, I dig what you are saying about your impressionistic approach. Earlier today I used that term in another thread to describe what I was after, but it was lazy, lexiconically speaking... :)

 ;D

Yes lazy could be a good way to describe Impressionistic. I actually used tubing and ran the wires into it on my DIII and DI. Just didn't see the point on this one. Also white painted blobs of White glue look great beneath the cowl panels to represent the plugs  ::) The other factors here are what can I do within my skill level to make things look right. That is always my approach. By the way, read and responded to your comment on the other thread!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: uncletony on May 26, 2014, 01:23:25 PM
Rick, I dig what you are saying about your impressionistic approach. Earlier today I used that term in another thread to describe what I was after, but it was lazy, lexiconically speaking... :)

 ;D

Yes lazy could be a good way to describe Impressionistic. I actually used tubing and ran the wires into it on my DIII and DI. Just didn't see the point on this one. Also white painted blobs of White glue look great beneath the cowl panels to represent the plugs  ::) The other factors here are what can I do within my skill level to make things look right. That is always my approach. By the way, read and responded to your comment on the other thread!
RAGIII

Erk! Didn't mean your "impressionistic" approach is lazy! No no nonono .... Meant my writing and the use of the word was lazy.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 27, 2014, 11:48:23 AM
Rick, I dig what you are saying about your impressionistic approach. Earlier today I used that term in another thread to describe what I was after, but it was lazy, lexiconically speaking... :)

 ;D

Yes lazy could be a good way to describe Impressionistic. I actually used tubing and ran the wires into it on my DIII and DI. Just didn't see the point on this one. Also white painted blobs of White glue look great beneath the cowl panels to represent the plugs  ::) The other factors here are what can I do within my skill level to make things look right. That is always my approach. By the way, read and responded to your comment on the other thread!
RAGIII

Erk! Didn't mean your "impressionistic" approach is lazy! No no nonono .... Meant my writing and the use of the word was lazy.

Bo,
Somewhere between the first and fourth Beer last night I understood you weren't talking about the technique. That being said in my Brew induced state of mind I felt that the term actually did fit, not by your intention but my own self analysis! So.. No offense taken because I do know what you were referring to! Thanks for all you do to show us the Possibilities in Modeling! I certainly learn a lot from you even though I may not put a lot to use  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 30, 2014, 10:23:57 AM
I have built and installed the Machine guns, attached the cowl panels and upper wing. All went relatively easy with the wing. As a matter of fact,much easier than my first WNW Albatros. Next up will be the landing gear. Then rigging of both the Snipe and the Albatros will begin.....
RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbatros001_zps8212c1cf.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbatros001_zps8212c1cf.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbatros002_crop_zps4a6fce7a.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbatros002_crop_zps4a6fce7a.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbatros003_crop_zpsb89bd9e4.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbatros003_crop_zpsb89bd9e4.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbatros006_crop_zpsefe93ee2.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/snipeandalbatros006_crop_zpsefe93ee2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on May 30, 2014, 10:48:31 AM
The Alby is really looking the business now, Rick.  Super job on the lozenge.
This is shaping up to be a stunner, my friend.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on May 31, 2014, 02:31:52 AM
You have so many fabulous Albatrosen in you collection, Rick, it's had to say which is your best.  However, this one looks like it's shaping up to be your best yet.  I love the chevroned fuselage band and the lozenge looks stunning.  Brilliant work, Amigo.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on May 31, 2014, 04:52:18 AM
Gotta agree with Bud...this looks like a real stunner.  Something to shoot for!

Excellent.

Dan
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on May 31, 2014, 08:03:54 AM
Your work is stunning Rick.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 31, 2014, 11:08:22 AM
The Alby is really looking the business now, Rick.  Super job on the lozenge.
This is shaping up to be a stunner, my friend.

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Thanks Ernie! As always your comments are greatly appreciated! The Aviattic Lozenge is super, and with just a bit of subtle preshading at the ribs looks even better! I can't say enough about the product!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 31, 2014, 11:12:34 AM
You have so many fabulous Albatrosen in you collection, Rick, it's had to say which is your best.  However, this one looks like it's shaping up to be your best yet.  I love the chevroned fuselage band and the lozenge looks stunning.  Brilliant work, Amigo.
Cheers,
Bud

Bud, Thank you for the very kind comments! I do love the Albatros! We shall see where this one ranks in the end as I still have time to blunder  ::)
RAGIII

Gotta agree with Bud...this looks like a real stunner.  Something to shoot for!

Excellent.

Dan

Dan, Thanks for looking in! I do appreciate your comments greatly! As for something to shoot for, I have seen your work and have no doubt you can do better!
RAGIII

Your work is stunning Rick.
Martin

Thanks Martin! As always I appreciate your input!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on May 31, 2014, 11:32:56 AM
Hi Rick:

I really like this scheme you have chosen for your Alby.  Can't say anything more.  Truly outstanding work and a great looking model.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 31, 2014, 11:37:06 AM
Hi Rick:

I really like this scheme you have chosen for your Alby.  Can't say anything more.  Truly outstanding work and a great looking model.

Best

Mark

Thanks Mark!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: uncletony on May 31, 2014, 11:40:39 AM
Yep it is looking super Rick!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on May 31, 2014, 11:56:58 AM
Yep it is looking super Rick!

Thanks Bo! Not exactly Botastic but I am HAPPY so far  8)
RAGIII

PS: Went with the kit struts and praying I go 2 for 2 with no Banana disease  :-\
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on May 31, 2014, 06:39:19 PM
Hi Rick,

You did a magnificent job on all the aspects of the build. Wonderful lozenge, great decalling and I still like the woodpainting so much. Well done my friend!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on June 01, 2014, 11:32:36 AM
Hi Rick,

You did a magnificent job on all the aspects of the build. Wonderful lozenge, great decalling and I still like the woodpainting so much. Well done my friend!

Kind regards
Patrick

Thanks Patrick. I appreciate your comments and as always how you follow my build logs!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on June 03, 2014, 09:33:31 AM
You have so many fabulous Albatrosen in you collection, Rick, it's had to say which is your best.  However, this one looks like it's shaping up to be your best yet.  I love the chevroned fuselage band and the lozenge looks stunning.  Brilliant work, Amigo.
Cheers,
Bud

Ditto our Amigo's comments ! Especially the chevrons !!!

Ed
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on June 04, 2014, 01:16:53 AM
You have so many fabulous Albatrosen in you collection, Rick, it's had to say which is your best.  However, this one looks like it's shaping up to be your best yet.  I love the chevroned fuselage band and the lozenge looks stunning.  Brilliant work, Amigo.
Cheers,
Bud

Ditto our Amigo's comments ! Especially the chevrons !!!

Ed


Ed, Very nice to hear from you again! I was beginning to worry. Guess you are just busy building for the NATS! Thanks for your compliment!! As an aside here, I did a little thing on Streaking in the Hints and Tips section. If you have any Photos I would Love to add your Method of Fokker Streaking to the tutorial? Of course I will help with pics as needed!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on June 05, 2014, 08:31:44 AM
Ok Folks. A verbal update to be followed with pictures later. I have officially Mucked up! I broke one of the gear struts. It was a clean brake and glued together well but.... I now REALLY have to wonder about the Long Term Strength! We need a Drop in Metal replacement that differs enough that WNW won't object. Are you listening Richard? Bos fix is outstanding but my Humble opinion is that unless you are experienced at soldering and scratch building the use of his PE  and struts would be more than a challenge!
So for now the DVa will sit level on it's gear. We shall see what time does to the assembly.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on June 05, 2014, 09:04:37 AM
Here are the Pictures: I have also finally added the rudder and Elevator to the model:

RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWSNIPEandAlbatros011_crop_zpsfd8ed6c8.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWSNIPEandAlbatros011_crop_zpsfd8ed6c8.jpg.html)


(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWSNIPEandAlbatros012_crop_zps2511bd75.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWSNIPEandAlbatros012_crop_zps2511bd75.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWSNIPEandAlbatros013_crop_zps183d7802.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWSNIPEandAlbatros013_crop_zps183d7802.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWSNIPEandAlbatros007_zps56196129.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWSNIPEandAlbatros007_zps56196129.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWSNIPEandAlbatros002_crop_zps3cbfce1d.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWSNIPEandAlbatros002_crop_zps3cbfce1d.jpg.html)

By the way the CDL patches will be touched up with oils to match the wood grain...Hopefully  8)
RAGIII

Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on June 05, 2014, 09:20:53 AM
It is a great work Rick.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on June 05, 2014, 09:54:10 AM
Rick , I really love how the snipe is turning out . Very well done so far . Also , that really is one sharp looking Albatros !






Terri
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on June 05, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
It is a great work Rick.
Martin
Thanks Martin! I appreciate your following of my build!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on June 05, 2014, 10:08:32 AM
Rick , I really love how the snipe is turning out . Very well done so far . Also , that really is one sharp looking Albatros !






Terri

Thanks Terri! I am happy with how the Snipe is coming along. The Albi seems to be fighting me but I will persevere!
RAGIII'
Here they are together:

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandalbatros020_crop_zpsadfc90aa.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandalbatros020_crop_zpsadfc90aa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on June 06, 2014, 02:33:59 AM
Hi Rick:

That Albie is just too cool for words.  You have done an outstanding job ont he wood grain, and even though it is a simple scheme, the chevron really makes this a/c shine.  Where did you source the decals for the markings?

I am about where you are on my Snipe.  I did the same markings and chose to do the same scheme as you.  I like the way yours is turning out, hence the motivation for me to do mine.

Looking forward to seeing them both completed.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Epeeman on June 06, 2014, 06:29:01 AM
Hello, Rick -

Getting so very close to the finishing line and both these kits are really looking the business.  Looking forward to seeing the result.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on June 06, 2014, 11:19:09 AM
Hi Rick:

That Albie is just too cool for words.  You have done an outstanding job ont he wood grain, and even though it is a simple scheme, the chevron really makes this a/c shine.  Where did you source the decals for the markings?

I am about where you are on my Snipe.  I did the same markings and chose to do the same scheme as you.  I like the way yours is turning out, hence the motivation for me to do mine.

Looking forward to seeing them both completed.

Best

Mark

Mark, Thanks for the comments! I appreciate your looking in on my build!
 The only "Sourced" decals are the serial numbers which were taken from a combo of kit and Pheon. As for the Chevrons as I explained a few pages ago, I used the Profile from the Osprey JG1 book and enlarged it to match the kit. I then cut the chevrons, ( Using the one on the Flattest portion of the fuselage side),out of Post it notes, masked and sprayed. Not perfect but pretty close. The pic of the original looks as though the chevrons were just a tad rough on the edges and not all perfectly the same!
RAGIII


Hello, Rick -

Getting so very close to the finishing line and both these kits are really looking the business.  Looking forward to seeing the result.

Regards

Dave

Thanks Dave, and yes getting close. I had a time frame in mind when I started the build and if I finish by the end of June I am on Schedule!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on June 07, 2014, 01:59:46 AM
Both builds are exellent Rick.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on June 07, 2014, 02:22:11 AM
You're really making headway on these, Amigo, and they are both a joy to behold.  You're much further along on your dual build than I am on mine.  Will there be another in your future?
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on June 07, 2014, 11:40:10 AM
Both builds are exellent Rick.
Martin

Thanks yet again Martin, you are a great support to my builds!
RAGIII

You're really making headway on these, Amigo, and they are both a joy to behold.  You're much further along on your dual build than I am on mine.  Will there be another in your future?
Cheers,
Bud

Bud, Thanks for the very kind compliment! You aren't that far behind by the way! Finally, Yes another Dual build is up next. If Things go as planned my next builds will be a Roden 1/32nd Pfalz DIII and a WNW Pup. One hitch could come up though. I am expecting a 1/32nd Meteor F4 as a result of a trade I made for Most of my remaining 1/48th kits. When I have that kit in hand it may be too hard to resist  ::) Rowan is planning some 56 sq. Markings sooooo it will have a WW1 tie in but would be relegated to the Time to relax area on this forum ! By the way the Pup is my last WNW kit in the Stash. I hope things work out so that I can change that situation.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on June 11, 2014, 09:57:13 AM
A Very Small Update:
All of the Ailerons have been attached to the Albatros and Snipe. I have also attached the Windscreen and Aldis site to the Snipe. Next up is a little overspraying to get things like Albie wings that should be flat and a variation in gloss and Satin on the Snipe. Finally still need to do some touch up here and there on both.
RAGIII

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(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandalbatros002_crop_zps7e7e3a7e.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/WNWsnipeandalbatros002_crop_zps7e7e3a7e.jpg.html)



Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: jknaus on June 11, 2014, 11:25:56 AM
They look gorgeous. Really nicely done. This is another Albie to tempt me.
James
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: TomR1981 on June 11, 2014, 07:37:28 PM
Both looking really nice Rick. I love the scheme on the Albatros, simple but effective. Although not so simple to actually mask and paint. Good job.

Tom
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: rhallinger on June 11, 2014, 08:47:52 PM
Superb birds Rick!  Way to go! ;D

Cheers and huzzas,

ob
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on June 11, 2014, 09:58:04 PM
Getting very close on finishing this Rick . Looking forward to seeing these two beauties rigged .





Terri
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on June 12, 2014, 12:16:17 AM
I love them Rick. Exellent! ;D
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lcarroll on June 12, 2014, 01:24:57 AM
Both looking very fine indeed Rick. I don't think I could manage a double like this and get your fine results; great flexibility on your part!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on June 12, 2014, 01:37:29 AM
Both looking very fine indeed Rick. I don't think I could manage a double like this and get your fine results; great flexibility on your part!
Cheers,
Lance
I agree!  Especially considering the dissimilarity of types.  What a challenge!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on June 12, 2014, 02:11:11 AM
Hello Rick:

Both are looking good.  Good to see them nearing completion.  Outstanding work all around!

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on June 12, 2014, 09:35:55 AM
They look gorgeous. Really nicely done. This is another Albie to tempt me.
James

Thanks James, I appreciate you following my build and your comments!
RAGIII

Both looking really nice Rick. I love the scheme on the Albatros, simple but effective. Although not so simple to actually mask and paint. Good job.

Tom

Tom,
Yes the Chevron scheme is interesting and adds something to the plain wood fuselage. Goes well with lozenge also! IMHO,
RAGIII

Superb birds Rick!  Way to go! ;D

Cheers and huzzas,

ob

Thanks Rob, Your comments are certainly appreciated!
RAGIII

Getting very close on finishing this Rick . Looking forward to seeing these two beauties rigged .





Terri

Thanks Terri! I will be rigging soon! Maybe this weekend as I actually have Saturday and Sunday off!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on June 12, 2014, 09:45:13 AM
I love them Rick. Exellent! ;D
Martin

Thank you Martin, You have been here all of the way and I appreciate your support!
RAGIII


Both looking very fine indeed Rick. I don't think I could manage a double like this and get your fine results; great flexibility on your part!
Cheers,
Lance

Lance,
It really isn't that difficult...otherwise I couldn't do it  ;D I Have alternated between the two. When I reached a certain point on the Snipe, I switched to the Albatros until I caught up... so forth and so on.
RAGIII


Both looking very fine indeed Rick. I don't think I could manage a double like this and get your fine results; great flexibility on your part!
Cheers,
Lance
I agree!  Especially considering the dissimilarity of types.  What a challenge!
Cheers,
Bud

Thanks Amigo! I happen to think that building two in different scales is more difficult  8)
RAGIII


Hello Rick:

Both are looking good.  Good to see them nearing completion.  Outstanding work all around!

Best

Mark

Mark,
Thank you and yes Nearing completion at last... and more or less on schedule!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on June 24, 2014, 11:43:18 AM
Nothing to show photo wise yet but... I have begun rigging the Snipe. Got the Cabanes done after work today. Tight and tough work! Tomorrow night I hope to get all of the interplane strut bracing done and then will think about photos. Once those wires are done expecting a pretty straight forward rigging of the rest! As for the Albie, I will begin the rigging on my next day off.... Hopefully  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 12, 2014, 11:21:38 AM
Finally an Update worth posting:
I have completed the rigging of the cabanes and all of the wing rigging. I have some touch up painting to do and obviously have to re-attach the ailerons and tail surfaces I knocked off during the process. Overall I am happy with the results. I will probably go back with white glue to simulate the anchor points at the base of the struts.
RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros006_zpseaa181ce.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros006_zpseaa181ce.jpg.html)


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(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros013_zps477fcc19.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros013_zps477fcc19.jpg.html)


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(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros017_zps149271fa.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros017_zps149271fa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on July 12, 2014, 12:08:02 PM
Rick, I must apologise for somehow missing such a lot of your build. :-[ I am really
gob-smacked with your models!  First the Alby...it is an absolute stunner.  Your
woodgrain is amazing and what a lovely job of the lozenge and decals.
  As for the Snipe, as far as I am concerned, it is awfully close to perfection!  The colour
scheme is really attractive, the PC-12 very well done.  Your attention to detail is
terrific. Well done on the rigging...just great. :D
 If I can even come close to the excellence of your builds, my friend, I will be some pleased.

Cheers,
Ernie :) 
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: guitarlute101 on July 12, 2014, 12:30:26 PM
Hi Rick,

I was going to forgo buying the Snipe, but after seeing your build I've reconsidered. Excellent work my friend!

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on July 12, 2014, 01:09:55 PM
Man, is she ever lookin' good, Rick!  Beautifully rigged and painted.  Like Mark, you've got me itchin' to build one myself.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: uncletony on July 12, 2014, 01:28:02 PM
That looks great Rick!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on July 12, 2014, 02:03:34 PM
Super job on the rigging Rick , nice at tight  :) I have never tried glue for making the buckles and such so I'm looking forward to this .




Terri
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Nigel Jackson on July 12, 2014, 04:59:58 PM
Rick, this looks superb. I had a chance to buy the early Snipe a couple of days ago and chose instead the DV. Seeing your beautiful work makes me wonder now if I've just made a big mistake!

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 12, 2014, 06:06:35 PM
Looking great, Rick.
I like the paint job and the rigging is spot on! Well done.

Cheers,
VB
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on July 12, 2014, 09:55:38 PM
Stunning work for your Snipe Rick.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Chris Johnson on July 12, 2014, 10:47:38 PM
As always Rick, a treat to behold!

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: TomR1981 on July 13, 2014, 04:46:45 AM
Rick, as others have said, the rigging looks great. What did you use? It looks like the streamlined rafwire.

Tom
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on July 13, 2014, 04:52:04 AM
Hello Rick:

Another outstanding bit of work from your bench.  It was fun following this build and getting your thoughts about color schemes etc.  You did a great job on this one Rick, following  yours and the other Snipe builds motivated me to persevere.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 13, 2014, 10:55:50 AM
Rick, I must apologise for somehow missing such a lot of your build. :-[ I am really
gob-smacked with your models!  First the Alby...it is an absolute stunner.  Your
woodgrain is amazing and what a lovely job of the lozenge and decals.
  As for the Snipe, as far as I am concerned, it is awfully close to perfection!  The colour
scheme is really attractive, the PC-12 very well done.  Your attention to detail is
terrific. Well done on the rigging...just great. :D
 If I can even come close to the excellence of your builds, my friend, I will be some pleased.

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Ernie,
First thank you for the very overgenerous comments! Second, you and I are already in the same class. Your builds are every bit as good as mine, better in some ways, you use TURNBUCKLES  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 13, 2014, 10:58:01 AM
Hi Rick,

I was going to forgo buying the Snipe, but after seeing your build I've reconsidered. Excellent work my friend!

Mark

Thanks Mark, I appreciate the comment and any inspiration I have given you means I am doing my part in the community!

I also want to thank All of the rest of you for your very kind comments! I greatly appreciate each and every one!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 13, 2014, 11:02:18 AM
I like your choice for PC10 - in sure it's probably buried in the thread somewhere, but what is it?

My formula for this build was Gunze RLM 71 as a base, then adding drops of Gunze red until I reached a brown I liked. ANY green will work just test often as I usually add too much taking it to a red/brown look. I mixed a second batch with less red and sprayed the fuselage and did some subtle overspraying in other areas to give a little less red brown look. One other thing, I tend to get my PC10 to the "Dark Chocolate" end of the spectrum. I think adding a touch of white or a very light grey might help lighten the look.
IHTH,
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 13, 2014, 11:04:28 AM
Rick, as others have said, the rigging looks great. What did you use? It looks like the streamlined rafwire.

Tom

Tom,
Nothing fancy or streamlined. Just good old Monofilament fishing line run all of the way through the wings for structural strength.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 13, 2014, 11:34:45 AM
Rick, this looks superb. I had a chance to buy the early Snipe a couple of days ago and chose instead the DV. Seeing your beautiful work makes me wonder now if I've just made a big mistake!

Best wishes
Nigel

Nigel,
One never goes wrong with an Albatros  :D Just put the Snipe down as a future purchase because of the kits I have built this one is the best engineered of the lot!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 13, 2014, 11:58:50 AM
Man, is she ever lookin' good, Rick!  Beautifully rigged and painted.  Like Mark, you've got me itchin' to build one myself.
Cheers,
Bud

Thanks Amigo, Any time I can Inspire you I feel really good!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Epeeman on July 14, 2014, 05:07:45 AM
Rick,

Your getting ever closer to the finishing line now and this is really the looking the part - looking forward to seeing the end result.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 14, 2014, 02:16:08 PM
Rick,

Your getting ever closer to the finishing line now and this is really the looking the part - looking forward to seeing the end result.

Regards

Dave
Thanks Dave. I am planning on finishing the rigging in the next two days. Then the Albatros......
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: jknaus on July 15, 2014, 01:12:34 AM
Looks gorgeous.
James
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on July 16, 2014, 03:36:53 AM
Hello Rick,

As you know I was absent for awhile. I was so glad to see your two beauties again. The Snipe is fabulous, colors are top and your rigging is stunning. Well done my friend. I take my hat off for your modeling abilities. Well done!

Kind regards
Patrick


Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 17, 2014, 07:52:28 AM
Looks gorgeous.
James


Hello Rick,

As you know I was absent for awhile. I was so glad to see your two beauties again. The Snipe is fabulous, colors are top and your rigging is stunning. Well done my friend. I take my hat off for your modeling abilities. Well done!

Kind regards
Patrick




Thanks Guys I do appreciate your comments! Patrick good to have you posting again! I certainly Missed your input!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 22, 2014, 08:23:41 AM
The rigging only lacks painting the control horns and adding the lower aileron controls and the wires between upper and lower ailerons. Then the touch up and final weathering.
RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros013_crop_zpsbd6e9f06.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros013_crop_zpsbd6e9f06.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros014_zps660d0028.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros014_zps660d0028.jpg.html)

Not real happy with the second photo but it does show a little more. The colors are a little darker than real life,especially the PC whatever  8)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on July 22, 2014, 08:27:00 AM
Awesome!  Yeah, we've gotta finish these dual builds before diving into the GB, don't we, Amigo.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Snowy on July 22, 2014, 08:27:45 AM
That looks terrific Rick.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on July 22, 2014, 11:24:52 AM
Hello Rick:

Looking good my friend.  I found the rigging of the tail feathers to be exceedingly tiresome for some reason.  Your results are sterling.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: uncletony on July 22, 2014, 12:22:21 PM
Snipe looking sharp Rick!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on July 22, 2014, 07:18:45 PM
Rick it is an extremly good build.
Wait for your Albatros.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Des on July 22, 2014, 10:14:21 PM
Excellent work Rick, the colour looks really good.

Des.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Vickers on July 23, 2014, 01:21:09 AM
Had a jaunt through your album, Rick.  Your Snipe and Albatros both look marvelous, great schemes on both- the Snipe certainly looks the business in the overall green without multi-colored panels or cowling. Splendid work on both!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 24, 2014, 09:12:42 AM
Awesome!  Yeah, we've gotta finish these dual builds before diving into the GB, don't we, Amigo.
Cheers,
Bud

Thanks Bud,Yes, I must finish the Snipe and Albie first before I start on the Vac DVII...... Perhaps I can stretch this out further  8)
RAGIII

That looks terrific Rick.

Thanks for the comment Snowy, It is appreciated!
RAGIII

Hello Rick:

Looking good my friend.  I found the rigging of the tail feathers to be exceedingly tiresome for some reason.  Your results are sterling.

Best

Mark

Thanks Mark! I actually ended up using sprue for everything but the Bracing wires on the tail  ::)
RAGIII

Snipe looking sharp Rick!

Thanks for dropping in Bo, I appreciate the comment.
RAGIII

Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 24, 2014, 09:17:41 AM
Rick it is an extremly good build.
Wait for your Albatros.
Martin

Thanks Martin. As always I appreciate your encouragement. I have a short vacation coming up starting Saturday and as long as SWMBO doesn't throw too much my way I plan on finishing both!
RAGIII

Excellent work Rick, the colour looks really good.

Des.

Thanks Des, I like the color as it seems to change in different lighting from brownish green to chocolate  :P
RAGIII

Had a jaunt through your album, Rick.  Your Snipe and Albatros both look marvelous, great schemes on both- the Snipe certainly looks the business in the overall green without multi-colored panels or cowling. Splendid work on both!

Thanks for checking out the builds! I chose to do "MY" interpretation of a possible War Scheme vs Post war. Having seen lots of photos of 43 sq. birds with just the panel behind the cockpit left grey I went with that vs. all of the grey as it would have been delivered.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: BigBlue on July 27, 2014, 03:06:28 AM
Both aircraft look fantastic, Rick.  I don't think I could manage to keep track of two builds at once, let produce the results you have.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on July 27, 2014, 04:14:09 AM
Super work Rick. Your models are really first class and to produce two together beats me too. I have enough problems concentrating on one! I am very impressed by the finish on the Snipe - not an aircraft that I know well, but yours has made me want to find out more. The Albatros is also nothing less than very impressive - colourful scheme too.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lcarroll on July 27, 2014, 05:02:55 AM
   They are both "top drawer" Rick. If I had the 'Huge Ugly Vac" waiting for me I'd go back and add even more detail to these two beauties! With your penchant for producing winners I'm sure you'll roll right into the Group Build DVII seamlessly. Looking forward to seeing the "final-final" photos before you call this impressive Build complete. 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 27, 2014, 07:48:03 AM
Both aircraft look fantastic, Rick.  I don't think I could manage to keep track of two builds at once, let produce the results you have.

Having seen your Snipe I certainly appreciate the Kind Comments! Building 2 is not that hard, just takes twice as long as I feared in the beginning  ::)
RAGIII

Super work Rick. Your models are really first class and to produce two together beats me too. I have enough problems concentrating on one! I am very impressed by the finish on the Snipe - not an aircraft that I know well, but yours has made me want to find out more. The Albatros is also nothing less than very impressive - colourful scheme too.

Thanks LM! I do appreciate your comments and following of my builds!
RAGIII

   They are both "top drawer" Rick. If I had the 'Huge Ugly Vac" waiting for me I'd go back and add even more detail to these two beauties! With your penchant for producing winners I'm sure you'll roll right into the Group Build DVII seamlessly. Looking forward to seeing the "final-final" photos before you call this impressive Build complete. 8)
Cheers,
Lance

I appreciate the comments Lance! Yes looking at that Huge Ugly Vac does kinda make me want to NOT FINISH these two  :-X
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 30, 2014, 12:52:26 AM
The snipe is virtually finished. All of the rigging is done and just the touch up and final flat and satin finishes to go. Now about that Albatros.....
RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/SnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros021_crop_zpsba0ccc95.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/SnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros021_crop_zpsba0ccc95.jpg.html)

PS: Noticed a loose wire in the photo (Landing gear) That has been repaired.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: ww1buff on July 30, 2014, 01:41:47 AM
Beautiful Snipe, RAGIII.  I'm working on the late version now, but it won't come close to the way yours looks.  Nice job!

Joe
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on July 30, 2014, 02:17:59 AM
Thank you for your beautiful build Rick. :-*
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: xmald on July 30, 2014, 04:16:54 AM
Rick both builds are great. I love the woodgrain on Albie and PC10 on Snipe.
As always you prove to be a very talented modeller mate!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on July 31, 2014, 11:36:55 PM
Beautiful Snipe, RAGIII.  I'm working on the late version now, but it won't come close to the way yours looks.  Nice job!

Joe

Thanks for the comment! I am sure your Snipe will be every bit as good as mine...or better. Rember,I know ALL of the FLAWS in Mine!
RAGIII

Thank you for your beautiful build Rick. :-*
Martin

Thanks Martin, I appreciate your continued support during my builds!
RAGIII

Rick both builds are great. I love the woodgrain on Albie and PC10 on Snipe.
As always you prove to be a very talented modeller mate!

Thanks Filip! Your comments are greatly appreciated!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on July 31, 2014, 11:44:21 PM
WELL DONE  Amigo !

Ed
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on August 05, 2014, 08:17:34 AM
WELL DONE  Amigo !

Ed
Thanks Amigo!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on August 05, 2014, 09:39:56 AM
WELL DONE  Amigo !

Ed
Thanks Amigo!
RAGIII
Another amigo agrees!  Where are the rest of the pics, though!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on August 05, 2014, 09:58:39 PM
WELL DONE  Amigo !

Ed
Thanks Amigo!
RAGIII
Another amigo agrees!  Where are the rest of the pics, though!
Cheers,
Bud

Thanks Bud. Just a few detail bits to add then the "Rest" of the Photos.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on August 05, 2014, 11:30:15 PM
Hi Rick:

Snipe looks mighty fine to me.  I think you did an outstanding job it.  Looking forward to a few more pics.  I did notice you didn't paint the prop hub.  By choice or oversight?  Just curious. 

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on August 06, 2014, 11:24:04 AM
Hi Rick:

Snipe looks mighty fine to me.  I think you did an outstanding job it.  Looking forward to a few more pics.  I did notice you didn't paint the prop hub.  By choice or oversight?  Just curious. 

Best

Mark

Thanks Mark, I appreciate the comment! As for the Prop Hub, yes I am aware, it was one of those touch up things I mentioned in a BROAD way 8)
RAGIII

PS: Also need to add the piece that fits on the cabane strut, the ring and bead sights, and paint a couple of other things
PPS: The clear inspection panels on the wings also
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on August 06, 2014, 01:20:10 PM
Ok, Had to add a couple of "Teasers"

The Oil Stains on the lower wings done with oils. and then the overall finish of the wings etc.
RAGIII

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Wing%20Nut%20Wings%20Albatros%20DV/WNWsnipeandalbatros004_crop_zps6d74c399.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Wing%20Nut%20Wings%20Albatros%20DV/WNWsnipeandalbatros004_crop_zps6d74c399.jpg.html)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Wing%20Nut%20Wings%20Albatros%20DV/WNWsnipeandalbatros002_zps7fda3be2.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Wing%20Nut%20Wings%20Albatros%20DV/WNWsnipeandalbatros002_zps7fda3be2.jpg.html)





(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Wing%20Nut%20Wings%20Albatros%20DV/WNWsnipeandalbatros003_crop_zps5a07f50b.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Wing%20Nut%20Wings%20Albatros%20DV/WNWsnipeandalbatros003_crop_zps5a07f50b.jpg.html)



(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/rickgeisler/Wing%20Nut%20Wings%20Albatros%20DV/WNWsnipeandalbatros001_crop_zps7031f079.jpg) (http://s1185.photobucket.com/user/rickgeisler/media/Wing%20Nut%20Wings%20Albatros%20DV/WNWsnipeandalbatros001_crop_zps7031f079.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on August 06, 2014, 01:52:27 PM
Gosh Rick, the Snipe is just too good! Beautiful job, my friend.  The rigging is
superb.  What a gorgeous model. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Jacek on August 06, 2014, 06:53:37 PM
Beautiful Snipe. The rigging is fantastic !
Jacek
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Epeeman on August 06, 2014, 09:29:44 PM
Another grand job from you, Rick!

Your Snipe really looks the business.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on August 06, 2014, 10:53:06 PM
Fantastic Rick. ;D
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on August 06, 2014, 11:10:27 PM
All around Rick , a top notch build on your Snipe !




Terri
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on August 06, 2014, 11:31:11 PM
Yummy!  My favorite piece of chocolate!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Chris Johnson on August 07, 2014, 12:04:10 AM
Superb modelling Rick! Each one of your builds just get better and better.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on August 07, 2014, 05:01:59 AM
That really is top notch modelling Rick. Those oils stains look so realistic and somehow the fabric looks as though it has been distorted too. Fantastic work.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on August 10, 2014, 09:41:53 AM
Gosh Rick, the Snipe is just too good! Beautiful job, my friend.  The rigging is
superb.  What a gorgeous model. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Thanks Ernie.
In addition I greatly appreciate all of the comments:
Jacek
Dave
martin
Terri
Bud
Chris
and
LM!
Thanks Guys and Gal for all of the Feedback!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on August 17, 2014, 11:48:14 PM
Here is the latest update on the Albatros. The major rigging is complete, more or less, and just the gear and tail feather rigging left to install. I have a lot of touch up to do as it seems this one continues to fight me  :-[
RAGIII

(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a535/geisler31richardgeisleriii/WNWSnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros024_crop_zps2b827887.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/geisler31richardgeisleriii/media/WNWSnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros024_crop_zps2b827887.jpg.html)


(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a535/geisler31richardgeisleriii/WNWSnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros015_crop_zpsf8c5decc.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/geisler31richardgeisleriii/media/WNWSnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros015_crop_zpsf8c5decc.jpg.html)

(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a535/geisler31richardgeisleriii/WNWSnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros023_zpsac5af9f3.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/geisler31richardgeisleriii/media/WNWSnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros023_zpsac5af9f3.jpg.html)

(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a535/geisler31richardgeisleriii/WNWSnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros013_zps7181d8e5.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/geisler31richardgeisleriii/media/WNWSnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros013_zps7181d8e5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Vickers on August 18, 2014, 12:21:29 AM
Your Albatros looks great, Rick.  The dark green cowling and wheel covers really set off the wood grain and the band of cascading chevrons complements the striped horizontal tail smartly. Very nice work!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lcarroll on August 18, 2014, 12:29:47 AM
   Simply the "perfect" scheme for an Albie, Rick, and you've done it beautifully. A great Combo Build, both models are exceptional and once the rigging and touch ups are complete on this one  you'll have a very successful Double Build to add to your list of accomplishments. Nicely done from start to finish!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Epeeman on August 18, 2014, 05:45:54 AM
Rick,

Your Albatros is starting to look stunning - the best work I have seen from you so far, I think.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on August 18, 2014, 07:52:30 AM
Your Albatros looks great, Rick.  The dark green cowling and wheel covers really set off the wood grain and the band of cascading chevrons complements the striped horizontal tail smartly. Very nice work!

Thanks for the comments and praise! I always thought the scheme would look good on a DVa model. I hope mine turns out ok after all of the touch up is done!
RAGIII

   Simply the "perfect" scheme for an Albie, Rick, and you've done it beautifully. A great Combo Build, both models are exceptional and once the rigging and touch ups are complete on this one  you'll have a very successful Double Build to add to your list of accomplishments. Nicely done from start to finish!
Cheers,
Lance

Thanks Lance, I agree about the scheme! Hoping to put this duo to sleep soon to start on Fokker DVIIs!
RAGIII

Rick,

Your Albatros is starting to look stunning - the best work I have seen from you so far, I think.

Regards

Dave

Thanks Dave. I know all of the little glitches in this one so I appreciate the vote of confidence!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on August 18, 2014, 10:25:28 AM
Superb work on the Albie, Rick!  I agree that this is the perfect Albatros scheme.  I believe this may be you best Albie to date.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Alexis on August 18, 2014, 10:56:57 AM
I must say Rick , this is shaping up to be your best Albbie yet ! Bud is right with his assessment . And I'm still impressed with how clean and sharp the striping on the tail feathers  8)





Terri
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ernie on August 18, 2014, 11:36:35 AM
Beautiful, beautiful model, Rick!  There is nothing that lets the Albie down in the
slightest.  I applaud your talents, my friend.  I can hardly wait to see the finished
article. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on August 18, 2014, 09:20:09 PM
Superb work on the Albie, Rick!  I agree that this is the perfect Albatros scheme.  I believe this may be you best Albie to date.
Cheers,
Bud

Thanks Amigo, I always appreciate your comments. We shall see. Right now I still have a preference for "Polka Dots"
RAGIII

I must say Rick , this is shaping up to be your best Albbie yet ! Bud is right with his assessment . And I'm still impressed with how clean and sharp the striping on the tail feathers  8)





Terri

Thanks Terri! The tail feathers were edged with black decals over the paint to touch up the edges.  8)
RAGIII


Beautiful, beautiful model, Rick!  There is nothing that lets the Albie down in the
slightest.  I applaud your talents, my friend.  I can hardly wait to see the finished
article. :D

Cheers,
Ernie :)

Thanks Ernie!  Although there are indeed a few things I know I could have/should have done better I am beginning ro like this one ;D

RAGIII

Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Des on August 18, 2014, 09:24:12 PM
Everything about your Albatros is quite stunning Rick, from the wood grain to the lozenge, the rigging and the tail stripes, they all add up to a remarkable looking model.

Des.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Nigel Jackson on August 18, 2014, 09:28:30 PM
This is such a beautiful piece of work, Rick. It sets such a high standard and something to which I can only aspire.

Best wishes
Nigel
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on August 18, 2014, 11:31:08 PM
Outstanding Rick.  The Albies offer a great variety of modelling options and the one you chose looks superb.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on August 19, 2014, 01:08:13 AM
Hello Rick:

For a simple scheme this Albatross really looks neat.  You did an outstanding job on this one Rick.  Looking forward to seeing her buttoned up.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: radio on August 19, 2014, 02:45:13 AM
Rick you make a stunning build.
Martin
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on August 19, 2014, 07:49:58 AM
Everything about your Albatros is quite stunning Rick, from the wood grain to the lozenge, the rigging and the tail stripes, they all add up to a remarkable looking model.

Des.

Thanks Des, I always appreciate your input!
RAGIII

This is such a beautiful piece of work, Rick. It sets such a high standard and something to which I can only aspire.

Best wishes
Nigel

Nigel,
I appreciate your comments. This is nothing that your talented hands couldn't accomplish!
RAGIII

Outstanding Rick.  The Albies offer a great variety of modelling options and the one you chose looks superb.

Ian, thanks and as I have said the scheme is appealing(to me), for the contrasts in colors and finishes.
RAGIII

Hello Rick:

For a simple scheme this Albatross really looks neat.  You did an outstanding job on this one Rick.  Looking forward to seeing her buttoned up.

Best

Mark

Thanks Mark. I think the combination of the wood, and black and white are really complimented by the Lozenge.
RAGIII

Rick you make a stunning build.
Martin

Thanks Martin. I have appreciated you following along on my Dual build!
I am now in the final phase of the rigging. I need to replace the cover plates on the lower wing undersides( removed because I was once converting this to a DV), then paint the prop and this one will be ready to join the Snipe in the display case.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: BigBlue on August 20, 2014, 11:27:30 AM
Beautiful and inspiring!  Really looks great, Rick.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on August 20, 2014, 04:24:28 PM
been a few weeks since i checked in on this one. snipe and albatros both looking really great. i am sure the albatros was more work with the lozenge and woodgrain, turned out really great though.
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on August 20, 2014, 09:31:22 PM
Beautiful and inspiring!  Really looks great, Rick.

Thank you for stopping in and your compliments. They are appreciated!
RAGIII

been a few weeks since i checked in on this one. snipe and albatros both looking really great. i am sure the albatros was more work with the lozenge and woodgrain, turned out really great though.

Thank You. Between the two builds the Albie is certainly the more challenging!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: IFF1418 on August 24, 2014, 02:30:16 AM
Hello Rick,

Your build log(s) of your two beauties has been a real revelation for me. I admired all the way your modeling abilities so much. I really cannot point out one phase or part of the build that wasn't extremely well done. It was such a pleasure for the eye and I could learn so much of it. I am so full of admiration of your color painting capacities. The wood parts of the Albie were breathtaking. I could go on and on but I would describe it in one word : fabulous work my friend!

Kind regards
Patrick
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lone modeller on August 24, 2014, 04:22:10 AM
Sorry Rick but I have not been keeping up with this one. That is one really fantastic Albie - the colours are really impressive, especially the wood, and the overall standard of the model is just…well…what can I write? Brilliant!!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on August 25, 2014, 01:39:18 PM
Hello Rick,

Your build log(s) of your two beauties has been a real revelation for me. I admired all the way your modeling abilities so much. I really cannot point out one phase or part of the build that wasn't extremely well done. It was such a pleasure for the eye and I could learn so much of it. I am so full of admiration of your color painting capacities. The wood parts of the Albie were breathtaking. I could go on and on but I would describe it in one word : fabulous work my friend!

Kind regards
Patrick

Patrick,
I greatly appreciate your very kind and somewhat exaggerated comments! You have become what I consider to be a VERY good Internet friend and I hope to see another of your builds here soon!
RAGIII

Sorry Rick but I have not been keeping up with this one. That is one really fantastic Albie - the colours are really impressive, especially the wood, and the overall standard of the model is just…well…what can I write? Brilliant!!

Thanks LM, I certainly appreciate the very nice comments! Your work always inspires me!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Ssasho0 on August 25, 2014, 04:55:28 PM
I like it, I like it very much, wonderfull job!
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on August 27, 2014, 06:32:28 AM
Dittos to all the above, await final pics !!!!!

Ed
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on August 28, 2014, 08:30:35 AM
I like it, I like it very much, wonderfull job!

Thanks Saasho! From a modeler of your ability that meaqns a lot!
RAGIII

Dittos to all the above, await final pics !!!!!

Ed

Thanks Amigo! The final pics should come soon. The Albie certainly has been trying and it will be a 2 to 3 foot model at best  :o
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 02, 2014, 08:45:55 AM
The Last two photos on the build thread:


(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a535/geisler31richardgeisleriii/WNWSnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros009_zpsf2c3bab8.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/geisler31richardgeisleriii/media/WNWSnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros009_zpsf2c3bab8.jpg.html)

(http://i1282.photobucket.com/albums/a535/geisler31richardgeisleriii/WNWSnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros028_crop_zpse0b9a4ca.jpg) (http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/geisler31richardgeisleriii/media/WNWSnipeandAlbatros/wnwsnipeandalbatros028_crop_zpse0b9a4ca.jpg.html)


Everything is pretty much done now. I can do some more but this may come after the Fokker DVII GB!
I hope you have enjoyed my process!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on September 02, 2014, 10:11:38 AM
HI Rick:

Two outstanding builds.  Where did you get the decals for the Albatros?  I like that combination.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: lcarroll on September 02, 2014, 11:09:23 AM
Rick,
    It was a pleasure to follow you through this ambitious project. Your results are really impressive, two magnificently finished Models that really showcase your skills. Beautifully done start to finish!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: coyotemagic on September 02, 2014, 11:28:54 AM
Both are truly extraordinary, Rick.  I'd be proud to have either or both in my display case.  Superb modeling all 'round, buddy.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: Dave in Dubai on September 02, 2014, 02:27:28 PM
Two beautiful builds Rick,

Anyone would be proud to have these in their collection, really well done.

Best wishes from sandland.

Dave :)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: vincentm on September 02, 2014, 08:09:45 PM
Amazingly precise and clean work. Impressive. Maybe you could use a more powerful spotlight for the shots. Or just add a little brightness and fine-tune the color balance in an image program like this (that's what I use to do):
(http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/11/49/47/92/wnwsni10.jpg) (http://servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1763&u=11494792)
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: dr 1 ace on September 03, 2014, 05:51:03 AM
Both are truly extraordinary, Rick.  I'd be proud to have either or both in my display case.  Superb modeling all 'round, buddy.
Cheers,
Bud

Ditto to our Amigos comments  !!!!

Ed
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: RAGIII on September 03, 2014, 09:35:18 AM
HI Rick:

Two outstanding builds.  Where did you get the decals for the Albatros?  I like that combination.

Best

Mark

Thanks Mark, greatly appreciate your comments. As for those Albie Decals the chevron and tail stripes were painted on. The serial number was cobbed together from Pheon and kit decals.
RAGIII

Lance, Bud, Dave, Vincentm, and Ed, You are all a great support and I truly appreciate how you have followed the builds and offered encouragement!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: mgunns on September 03, 2014, 10:24:10 AM
HI Rick:

Two outstanding builds.  Where did you get the decals for the Albatros?  I like that combination.

Best

Mark

As for those Albie Decals the chevron and tail stripes were painted on. The serial number was cobbed together from Pheon and kit decals.
RAGIII


All the more impressive Rick.  Outstanding work.

Best

Mark
Title: Re: WNW Sopwith Snipe: Early: Albatros DVa Jasta 6
Post by: rhallinger on September 03, 2014, 11:51:34 AM
Great stuff there Rick!  Inspiring work on both lovely birds. ;D. Makes me want to break one outof the stash and get started right away! ;). Very well done indeed, and in tandem no less!  Impressive!

Cheers and huzzas,

Bob