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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => WW1 Aircraft Information/Questions => Topic started by: Maxfinn on May 11, 2012, 03:57:11 AM
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Hi All,
Does anyone have access to, or know of a good resource for pictures, drawings or diagrams of the 120 HP Beardmore? I'm working on the WnW Fee, and am doing one with the 120. I've downloaded all of the pictures James Fahey has posted of the 160 HP Beardmore in the Vintage Aviator's Fee, but there is some piping and wiring that I can't quite make out.
I've already fabricated the plug wire chases from brass tube and sheet and have the plug wires sorted out, but I'm struggling with the oil lines and a lot of what's going on on the opposite side of the engine.
Any help would be great!
Thanks
Mike
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Most of the starboard side will be the same as the 160 hp engine. Have you seen this image from Wikipedia:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/Beardmore120.JPG
Has good details of the different carbs and oil leads on the port side.
I have been uploading detail photos to my 160hp Beardmore engine album fairly recently, so if you visited a while back you might want to check it out again:
http://s1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Beardmore%20160hp/?start=all
Photos of my WNW 120hp engine are here:
http://s1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20FE2b/
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20FE2b/Fee9.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20FE2b/Fee8.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20FE2b/Fee6.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20FE2b/Fee5.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20FE2b/Beardmore11.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Wingnut%20Wings%20FE2b/Beardmore5.jpg)
Cheers
James
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Ah...many thanks James! I haven't seen any of your more recent photo's so I'll check them out right away. I kind of figured that the 120 and 160 were more alike than different, which is the main reason, apart from your pictures being the best out there of either, that I've been relying on your pictures to keep me going in the right direction.
And fantastic pictures of your work on your engine!
Thanks
Mike
Wait a sec...is there something odd here or something? The wiki picture, which I had already seen, and your pictures of the Vintage Aviator 160hp seem to show the systems on the engines reversed:
The wiki picture
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/maxwinthrop/Fee/beardmore50.jpg)
One of your TVAL pictures
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v608/maxwinthrop/Fee/Beardmore12.jpg)
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Yes the 120hp Beardmore engine was fitted to some tractor biplanes as well as pushers, in which case the configuration was reversed
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Didn't think of that, but it does make sense.
Thanks again for your help!
Mike
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i was about to post a suggestion that you contact jamo......but..............
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Lovely engine Jamo, how'd you get the copper to look like that??
Andrew
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I started out with Mr Metal Color copper which looked far to pinkish, and after a suggestion from another modeller, added some dark earth (xtracolour RAF gloss enamel in my case), nearly 50/50. Brush painted. Added oil leaks with a very dark green (a 30+ year old tin of Humbrol British Bronze Green, an afv colour).
I like the Mr Metal colour range as the pigments are very fine but you have to brush really fast because the lacquer carrier evaporates extremely quickly. Their brass colour is great.
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Thanks James, you've really nailed that copper look on this beauty ;)
Andrew
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Thanks James for posting your copper painting technique, it turned out beautiful and is the closest I have seen to real copper, and by the way, your engine is spectacular.
Des.