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The WW1 modelers' reference library => Aircraft => Topic started by: Jamo on July 04, 2013, 08:23:14 AM
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Some of these images have appeared before but I have updated the series and posted them again now that we have so many new members. The Vintage Aviator Ltd have a superb collection of reproduction and restored WWI aircraft with original engines that are regularly flown. It is instructive for modellers striving to reproduce authentic weathering effects to see how normal usage affects the original finishes.
RE8 after a short flying season in NZ before being exported to the UK:
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/RE8underside_zpsa6696eee.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/RE8underside_zpsa6696eee.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/RE8nose_zps7bdf8e09.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/RE8nose_zps7bdf8e09.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/RE8exhausts_zps3b33be22.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/RE8exhausts_zps3b33be22.jpg.html)
Bristol F2B
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Jan2012Biffweathering.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Jan2012Biffweathering.jpg.html)
Scuffing on the lower wing
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Biffscuffing_zps5d80da0e.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Biffscuffing_zps5d80da0e.jpg.html)
Wheel covers
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Biffwheel_zps51644e4e.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Biffwheel_zps51644e4e.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Biffwheel2_zpsf3cf3a3b.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Biffwheel2_zpsf3cf3a3b.jpg.html)
Aging of the CDL under the centre section:
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/F2B6.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/F2B6.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/F2B25.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/F2B25.jpg.html)
Biff exhaust
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Biffexhaust_zps0fa40dd7.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Biffexhaust_zps0fa40dd7.jpg.html)
Fuel spills seeping through the lower wing centre section
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/F2B13.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/F2B13.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Bristol%20F2B/P1010369_zps4907b061.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Bristol%20F2B/P1010369_zps4907b061.jpg.html)
SE5a mud splashes
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5atail_zps380a06a2.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5atail_zps380a06a2.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5a11.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5a11.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5a12.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5a12.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5a9.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5a9.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5afuselage_zpsf3f4d9bc.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5afuselage_zpsf3f4d9bc.jpg.html)
Exhaust
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5anose_zpsf505d047.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5anose_zpsf505d047.jpg.html)
Note the irregular finish of the PC10 on the RAF BE2f:
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Nov201077.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Nov201077.jpg.html)
Oil and fuel spills seeping through to the fabric underneath
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/BE2funderside_zps87909d08.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/BE2funderside_zps87909d08.jpg.html)
Avro 504K
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Avro197.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Avro197.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Avro196.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Avro196.jpg.html)
Sopwith Pup after a short season of flying
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Pupunderside_zps163a6741.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Pupunderside_zps163a6741.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Pupstaining_b_zpsd8d27bb9.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Pupstaining_b_zpsd8d27bb9.jpg.html)
Note the colour of the castor oil seepage
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Pupunder_zpse038dbeb.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Pupunder_zpse038dbeb.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Pupnose_zpsa288624b.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Pupnose_zpsa288624b.jpg.html)
Sopwith Snipe straight after a flight, absolutely dripping with castor oilo
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/nov272011009.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/nov272011009.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/nov272011012.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/nov272011012.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/nov272011008.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/nov272011008.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/nov272011013.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/nov272011013.jpg.html)
Fokker D.VIII showing seepage of fuel/oil down the inside of the fuselage
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/MoneyRazorii.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/MoneyRazorii.jpg.html)
Albatros DVa exhaust
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/ALBexhaust_b_zps307fd9d7.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/ALBexhaust_b_zps307fd9d7.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/ALBexhaust_zpscaef4c8f.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/ALBexhaust_zpscaef4c8f.jpg.html)
Fuel and oil spills running down the fuselage keel
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Albatros22.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Albatros22.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/ALBunder_zps5c21889e.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/ALBunder_zps5c21889e.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/ALBundercarriage_zps32f26d62.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/ALBundercarriage_zps32f26d62.jpg.html)
Nieuport 11 Bebe
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Jan101.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Jan101.jpg.html)
Beardmore 160hp engine of the RAF FE2b (wow that is one grubby engine):
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/FeeBeardmore_zps196921dd.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/FeeBeardmore_zps196921dd.jpg.html)
Exhaust
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Feeexhaust_zps9631e436.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Feeexhaust_zps9631e436.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Feeexhaust_b_zps2dc77137.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Feeexhaust_b_zps2dc77137.jpg.html)
FE2b tailplane
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Feetail_b_zps16cbd590.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Feetail_b_zps16cbd590.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/FE2bMarch8.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/FE2bMarch8.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Feetail_zps781282ed.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Feetail_zps781282ed.jpg.html)
Sopwith Camel (which seen quite of a bit of service)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/April10Camel1.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/April10Camel1.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Camel4.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Camel4.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Camel5.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Camel5.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/April10Camel2.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/April10Camel2.jpg.html)
BE2c exhaust stains
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/BE2c27.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/BE2c27.jpg.html)
Cheers
James
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Here are a few more
BE2f exhaust
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/BE2f/14Jan2011c.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/BE2f/14Jan2011c.jpg.html)
The brass pipe vents oil spray over the valve gear of the engine
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/BE2f/14Jan2011b.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/BE2f/14Jan2011b.jpg.html)
BE2c exhausts
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/TVAL%20BE2C%20early/BE2c2.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/TVAL%20BE2C%20early/BE2c2.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/TVAL%20BE2C%20early/Nov2010105.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/TVAL%20BE2C%20early/Nov2010105.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/TVAL%20BE2C%20early/BE2c32.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/TVAL%20BE2C%20early/BE2c32.jpg.html)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/TVAL%20BE2C%20early/BE2c59.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/TVAL%20BE2C%20early/BE2c59.jpg.html)
CDL is not a uniform colour
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/TVAL%20BE2C%20early/Nov2010103.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/TVAL%20BE2C%20early/Nov2010103.jpg.html)
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Thanks James for posting these beautiful photos, this is fantasic reference material for the modeler.
Des.
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This is really great stuff!!
So many details that one can take out of this photos.
Thx for sharing!
Cheers
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Tremendous work Jamo! Thanks for providing this, a lot of it is sheer Gold!
Cheers,
Lance
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Top-notch work, as usual!
I know I may have asked this before, but what type of camera/lens combo are you using and are you also using any kind of tripod or support system for the indoor shots?
Your picture sharpness and depth of field are astounding.
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Thanks Aroth. I don't have a DSLR. Some of these photos were taken on a little Canon Powershot A2000 10mp 6x zoom, and more recently I upgraded to a Panasonic Lumix FZ150 12mp 24x zoom. No tripod. I mostly use the auto exposure setting.
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I know I may have asked this before, but what type of camera/lens combo are you using and are you also using any kind of tripod or support system for the indoor shots?
Your picture sharpness and depth of field are astounding.
Aroth normaly you don't need a tripod to indoors shots. Tripods are great if you want to take long exposures photos (lets say something about 1/60 seconds or slower). As more time the obturator stays open more you need to keep the camera steady.
But you can defend yourself with ISO before buying a tripod. As higher the ISO is, more sensible to light the photo will be. Let's say that you take a photo and it comes out a little dark. Go to next ISO (higher) take the photo again and you'll see that the photo it's brighter. But please note that as higher the ISO is, more "noise" the photo will have.
Some cameras have A-Deep (nikon as example), so what this makes is to focus everything from foregroung to backgroung.
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great stuff james. it shows us that what we sometime worry/think is over weathered really isnt. thanks again for taking time to enlighten us.
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Very cool pictures, definitely a useful modeling. Thanks James for posting .
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Fantastic as always, thanks so much for sharing these!
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What a thrill it must be to get to crawl around those beauties. Some guys would give anything to be a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition photographer. Me, I'd give anything to shoot those birds like James gets to. Not saying I'd give up the former job if someone asked me, but it would take a lot of convincing. ;)
Thanks for sharing James,
LT
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Thanks for posting these excellent images! It's not easy to find Great War period images that clearly define the staining and streaking patterns for various types of aircraft. These take some of the mystery and speculation out of the weathering decision.
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What a thrill it must be to get to crawl around those beauties. Some guys would give anything to be a Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition photographer. Me, I'd give anything to shoot those birds like James gets to. Not saying I'd give up the former job if someone asked me, but it would take a lot of convincing. ;)
Thanks for sharing James,
LT
Hi Lindsay
Why don't you come over to EnZed on a holiday during the Summer? TVAL have an open hangar every weekend between November and April, plus three airshows over that time. You could lie on you back under a Bristol F2B or Albatros DVa and take all the photos you feel like. Heaps of other great wining & dining, hiking, art & craft, cheesemaking, bird sanctuaries, sight seeing and other fun activities are on offer (for the non-modelling wife as well). You only live once!
Cheers
James
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That sounds very appealing James! I'll have to put that on the list. ;D
Regards,
Bob
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Hi Lindsay
Why don't you come over to EnZed on a holiday during the Summer? TVAL have an open hangar every weekend between November and April, plus three airshows over that time. You could lie on you back under a Bristol F2B or Albatros DVa and take all the photos you feel like. Heaps of other great wining & dining, hiking, art & craft, cheesemaking, bird sanctuaries, sight seeing and other fun activities are on offer (for the non-modelling wife as well). You only live once!
Cheers
James
Well. There you've gone and summed up my life's ambition pretty succinctly, haven't you? If I wasn't crying softly to myself I'd think of a more coherent reply.
Thank you, kind sir. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you...
Lindsay
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I think I can hear a chorus of sobbing :'( from all points of the compass........ ;)
Thanks for these photo's James, they are very interesting!
Andrew
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Thanks for the pics, very useful, as I guess the way the oil stains etc are propogated can be applied to other types too.
In addition to weathering, I wonder how many modellers would paint bird droppings on their aircraft! They were outside a lot, afterall....
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Wow! These are priceless pics. Thank you for taking the trouble to post these!!
Chris
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Very helpful photos, James. Thanks a lot for posting them.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Jamo, Thanks for posting, great photos of "real" weathering. Might well take you up on the earlier offer to visit NZ in Nov to April (Summer--O yes, you are below the Equator) for the shows.
Ed
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I thought it might be interesting to revisit some of my old images regarding effects of usage and see how things have moved on. Here is the underside of the first Albatros DVA in March 2010 alongside what it now looks like:
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Albatros%20DV/Ventralstaining_zps71cb266c.jpg) (http://s1011.photobucket.com/user/Jamo_kiwi/media/Albatros%20DV/Ventralstaining_zps71cb266c.jpg.html)
It gets flown reasonably often for a working museum aircraft, but nothing like what daily usage would have been like in WWI.
Notice the horizontal streaking around the nails further down the fuselage
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Great stuff for modellers, Jamo. Many thanks!
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Again, very helpful James. Thank you.
Best wishes
Nigel
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Not saying I'd give up the former job if someone asked me, but it would take a lot of convincing. ;)
Thanks for sharing James,
LT
I'd give up my job in a heartbeat if meant I got to take pictures of lovely oily ww1 aircraft in NZ + I would be able to share my English Tea making skills ( 26 years worth of knowledge :) ) with all those fine lads who build, maintain and fly those wonderful birds.
Thanks for the pics Jamo. With your permission I would like to compile them into one PDF file for future reference.
Cheers,
Bob Von Teamaker-extraordinaire
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Thanks again James, more great photos to help the modeler.
Des.
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It's quite interesting to see that the oil seeps thru right the scarf joints -- I would have thought the (modern) glue there would be more or less impermeable...
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Wow! Thanks for this goldmine of weathering information, James.
Wonderful photos.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Not saying I'd give up the former job if someone asked me, but it would take a lot of convincing. ;)
Thanks for sharing James,
LT
I'd give up my job in a heartbeat if meant I got to take pictures of lovely oily ww1 aircraft in NZ + I would be able to share my English Tea making skills ( 26 years worth of knowledge :) ) with all those fine lads who build, maintain and fly those wonderful birds.
Thanks for the pics Jamo. With your permission I would like to compile them into one PDF file for future reference.
Cheers,
Bob Von Teamaker-extraordinaire
What a good idea Bob! Yes sure. I might even have a go at that myself
Cheers
James
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Effects of fuel and oil spillage can be dramatic. This is the TVAL Avro 504k (original, restored)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Avro%20504K/IMG_5638.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Avro%20504K/IMG_5641.jpg)
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This is the kind of oil & dust crap that modellers could replicate to make model finishes more realistic and less toy-like.
SE5a:
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/SE5aweathering.jpg)
Sopwith Pup
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Pupweathering.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Pup004.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Pup003.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Pup002.jpg)
Fee underside
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/Feeweathering.jpg)
BE2c
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/Weathering%20WWI%20aircraft/P1060412.jpg)
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These pics are gems for a noob like me--thanks for taking the time to post all of them :)
Mark G.
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These pics are gems for a noob like me--thanks for taking the time to post all of them :)
Mark G.
My thoughts exactly! Really helpful photos, James.
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Hi James,
Your photo's are of great quality and very informative. For the first time I could see weathering in reality. Thank you so much!
Kind regards
Patrick
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I thought I would bring this old thread back up to top for the benefit of new members, and post some new images of one of TVAL's Sopwith Pups just after a flight.
Notice how the exhaust stains and castor oil cover the wings (including topside), under the fuselage, and the undercarriage
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/TVAL%20Sopwith%20Pup/P1080089sm.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/TVAL%20Sopwith%20Pup/P1080090sm.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/TVAL%20Sopwith%20Pup/P1080088sm.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/TVAL%20Sopwith%20Pup/P1080085sm.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/TVAL%20Sopwith%20Pup/P1080084sm.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/TVAL%20Sopwith%20Pup/P1080086sm.jpg)
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/Jamo_kiwi/TVAL%20Sopwith%20Pup/P1080083sm.jpg)
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Thanks James for these latest photos, they really emphasize the enormous amount of oil that is expelled by the rotary engines.
Des.
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Wow! Thank you for posting these pictures, they are extremely valuable. It seems to me as it is hard to overdue weathering on models of service airplanes if these replics, kept with special care, look so heavily worn after some hours of flying. I wouldn't have expected that...
Borsos
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What excellent photos, thanks for posting them! I suppose it's a given that rotary engines were messy things and many of the photos will help take some of the guesswork out of realistic finishes. However, The shot of the rear starboard horizontal surface on the inline powered SE5a intrigues me. What has happened to the "skin"? Is it muck, or I wonder, has the heat from a long exhaust caused damage? Or is it something entirely different?
Best wishes
Nigel.
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thanks for the new pics james
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This. Right. Here.
Now, this is what I'm talking about! Thanks SO much for posting these. It shows what it is, and what it isn't, and only serves to back up some of what I've been preaching for years.
Warren
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Is there any way we can restore the pics to this thread Jamo.? It would be great to see them again.
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I'll see what I can put together, thousands of photos to review...
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Well even a link to your on line album perhaps?
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https://jamesfahey.smugmug.com/ (https://jamesfahey.smugmug.com/)
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https://jamesfahey.smugmug.com/ (https://jamesfahey.smugmug.com/)
Fantastic collection of photos!