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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Pre and Early 1914 Aircraft Models => Topic started by: JoeDxMB on May 17, 2013, 03:04:33 PM

Title: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: JoeDxMB on May 17, 2013, 03:04:33 PM
Here's a couple of pics of some my Bleriot XI so far. Keep in mind that it is a 1:48 low detail kit but, to the naked eye it does not look too bad. Most parts had/have a lot of flash and ejector pin holes etc. that need to be addressed

I tried a few different materials for  the Lg and fuselage wires but most nothing worked out for one reason or another .  I finally  settled on some .010 brass wire. It is easy  to cut, work with and after CAing it in place, I  just gave it a wash of silver paint.

The stab/elevator on the Bleriot  is  unique and since I had a perfectly good razor saw i had to segment it, etc. 
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: Des on June 27, 2013, 10:25:15 PM
Looking pretty good so far Joe, I'm looking forward to seeing you make more progress on this kit. I have the Bleriot earmarked as a scratch build project in 1:32 scale so watching what you do here will be very helpful.

Des.
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: Ssasho0 on June 28, 2013, 12:25:24 AM
This kit looks like big PiA to me, but you are doing good job:) Here is a link (http://scalemodelsclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=4642) to 1/16 scratch build Bleriot XI for some additional motivation! It is in Bulgarian but google translate can do wonders!
good luck with the model!

Best regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: Des on June 28, 2013, 10:21:55 PM
Thanks very much for the link Sasho, it is very interesting and shows a wonderful model, I hope when I build mine that it turns our half as good.

Des.
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: JoeDxMB on July 02, 2013, 09:32:27 AM
Here  it is so far.

It's actually  almost done .....the hard parts anyway.

The .010 brass wire is probably a bit out of scale but, it was easy to work with.

I had to ignore the kit's  instructions of how to assemble the fuselage and rely  on my modeling experience for the best way to do it.
Be kind...... it's only 1:48.  :)

BTW, what looks like wing misalignment is just the camera angle. There is some very  minor misalignment in the dihedral but, it will be corrected  with the rigging.
I wish I had an assembly jig.   
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: Des on July 02, 2013, 10:37:08 AM
It looks great in my eyes Joe, I really like the colours you have used.

Des.
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: coyotemagic on July 02, 2013, 02:12:29 PM
It looks great in my eyes Joe, I really like the colours you have used.

Des.
Joe, I couldn't agree more.  Very nice work.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: JoeDxMB on July 03, 2013, 11:37:22 AM
Thanks for the kind words. :)
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: IanB on July 03, 2013, 12:22:39 PM
It looks pretty good from here!
 Here's a link to my 1:72 scratchbuild, although mine was an XI-2...

http://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=2013.0

Hope it helps!

Ian

Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: BLOWHARD on July 03, 2013, 01:02:53 PM
HOW MUCH FUN IS THAT!!!!  Really nice build, not to mention how many fond memories of building Pyro kits on the kitchen table come back to me :D
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: rhallinger on July 03, 2013, 08:13:01 PM
Great work Joe, on a classic.  I wish there were a Bleriot in 1/32.  You're making a very fine job of the old Pyro kit! I think the fuselage structure looks very convincing, to my eye.  Well done!

Regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: Rob Hart on July 03, 2013, 10:32:41 PM
Joe,

Well done. Great choice of subject and kit.
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: JoeDxMB on July 20, 2013, 04:38:30 AM
Thanks :)

Here is  another  pic.
All that still  that needs to be do is the wing rigging /control cables and final  weathering. 
I will post  a few final (and better)  pics when completed. 
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: lcarroll on July 20, 2013, 04:41:31 AM
Looks really NEAT Joe!
More photos later I hope?
Cheers,  :)
Lance
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: Zabu on July 20, 2013, 06:21:29 AM
I don't know how this beauty escaped from me.

1/48 humm? I wouldn't tell! Joe what a pleasure to see this build. That fuselage it's a must.

Thx for the pics and the joy of watching them. Very nice job.

Cheers
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: JoeDxMB on July 20, 2013, 06:39:30 AM
Thanks  guys  :)

BTW Zabu,  I won that MS type L kit
No one else bid on it and it was a great price.
It  will be my next build..... another WWI aircraft ..... finally. :)   
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: JoeDxMB on July 26, 2013, 03:24:15 AM
It's finally completed!  :)
No, it's not perfect but, I'm happy with it considering the low detail  of the old kit.
 
Now, on to my Morane Saulnier type L.  :)

   
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: Zabu on July 26, 2013, 06:37:46 AM
Hi Joe.

Your Bleriot it's a very beautiful sight. Your right in being happy!

I'm glad that you won the MS. Hope to see more from it.

Cheers

Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: JoeDxMB on July 26, 2013, 07:13:31 AM
Thanks.  :)

I have  to decide what version  of the MS-L that i want to buld as it has PE parts for about 3  versions.
It has  more PE parts than plastic parts and I  first have to decipher the instructions.
 
Anyway, it will no be a quick build  but,  once I get stared it will hopefully go relativly easy if not quick.
I may take a break from it on occasion (to regain or keep my sanity) by working  on a J-3 Cub that  I have.   ;)
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: coyotemagic on July 26, 2013, 07:56:55 AM
She's absolutely gorgeous, Joe.  You did a brilliant job on the rigging.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: Des on July 26, 2013, 08:28:02 AM
Congratulation Joe on completing this model, you have done a beautiful job with superb results, the rigging is excellent, very well done and I look forward to seeing your MS.

Des.
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: Ernie on July 26, 2013, 12:36:55 PM
Well done on the Bleriot, Joe. Superb job.

Cheers,
Ernie :)


Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: Whiteknuckles on July 26, 2013, 02:49:34 PM
Nicely turned out Joe, great job.
Looking forward to your MS-L ;)

Andrew
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: Ssasho0 on July 26, 2013, 04:41:21 PM
It really turned out great! I definately like it

Best regards,
Sasho
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: GAJouette on July 28, 2013, 05:09:28 AM
  Joe,
Congratulations my old friend. Absolutely Awesome!
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: JoeDxMB on July 28, 2013, 05:51:59 AM
Thank you all. :)
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: Rob Hart on August 06, 2013, 10:41:48 PM
Joe,

I completely missed this one. Excellent work on the rigging. You are a wiz with these pre war crates. How similar to the clipped wing  'Penguin' trainers was this aircraft?
Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: JoeDxMB on August 07, 2013, 01:56:25 PM
Thanks Rob.

BTW, the simulated turnbuckles are just tubes I got from "Bob".
Then, darkened a bit with a little Tamiya weathering  powder.   

I do not know too much about the "Penguin" but they do look similar.

Title: Re: Pyro Bleriot XI
Post by: lone modeller on August 11, 2013, 04:57:02 AM
Excellent modelling and rigging. Interesting to see someone else use metal for the wires especially on one of these very early machines which are not easy to use thread on.

I am not an authority on French machines (or British either) but the Penguin had a 35hp Anzani engine and a shorter span wing: 18 feet 6 inches whereas the XI was 31 feet 9 inches. They were used as trainers at Avord, France where the "Bleriot School" of training was used. The student pilots gained experience by taxiing and racing back and forth at between 30 - 40 mph along the grass field to allow them to get a feel for longitudinal and lateral stability. When the instructor was happy with the student he was allowed to get into a full sized machine and repeated the Penguin lesson. Only when the instructor gave the command did the student pilot actually take off and then he had to hold the machine a few feet above the ground and fly in a straight line. When this skill was mastered the student was allowed to fly a little higher and for a little longer until he was ready to complete a three leg cross country flight of 225 km per leg, stopping at the end of each leg to refuel and collect a signature. This was an advanced system at a time when student pilots in other schools would stand on the ground while another student would fly around the airfield with the instructor on the ground shouting instructions as the aeroplane passed over!  The other student pilots on the ground were supposed to listen to the instructor too!!

   Although the Bleriot school had many accidents they had few casualties because the speeds were low and the steps were gradual and a handful of instructors could train a large number of pilots. This system was in use in 1914 and it could take up to five months to fully train a pilot. Later this time was reduced. It should be remembered that the RFC lost more pilots killed in training than in combat: when two-seat trainers were not available the Bleriot system proved to be relatively safe and effective.