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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Vacform Kits => Topic started by: NinetythirdLiberator on March 06, 2013, 02:16:31 AM
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All,
I see this particular forum is sleeping so I'm throwing this guy into the breech. I am building it for a Roll Models challenge. I'm supposed to be done by March 18th. :P
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/DSCN4644_zpsd40ef81e.jpg)
Let's see if I can actually do that.
Cool plane, neat painting coming. Wish me luck.
Dan
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I'm really looking forward to this one, Dan! To finish this kit in less than two weeks will be nothing short of miraculous. If you can pull this one off, based on your other builds, I'm certain you'll take top prize in the contest. Good luck, buddy.
Cheers,
Bud
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Great subject. Looking forward to the "crash" build.
Steve
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i started one of these last year. not bad kit overall, but no detail at all. i stopped after i got most of the interior parts built up. i got some nice links for refs if you want.many excellent details from builds of large flying models with full interiors.if you need more let me know this is what i can dig up in 5 min.
http://www.finemodelworks.com/arizona-models/reference/Thumbs/Aircraft/Austro_Hungary/Hansa_Brandenburg/Hansa_Brandenburg.html
http://raysmodels.ca/HANSA%20BUILD%20LOG%20page1/Hansa%20page%201.htm
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4362643/tm.htm
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Dan,
You've certainly provided yourself with a challenge, best of luck and hope you meet the deadline. What are you doing with the rest of your time in the next 10 days?! ;)
Cheers,
Lance
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Hey Folks...a bit more insanity from last night! :P
I drilled all my holes for struts and rigging, used a pencil to highlight the lower structure in the flying surfaces and also penciled in the markings on the bottom surface of the top wing as I suspect it would show through a bit. I then misted some color over everything and here is how it stands.
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/DSCN4646_zpsbeed07ab.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/DSCN4647_zps52e1f090.jpg)
With some luck, I'll add an interior tonight (THANKS to Albi for those great links!!! I have NO references on this lovely machine :-\) and maybe even close up the fuselage. Looking ok so far but the timing is definitely a challenge. This Saturday I have a daughter's music performance and a school basketball game a student invited me to. Uh, oh!
More soon and thanks for looking...Dan
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Dan,
Man I'm glad you're back with another outstanding Vac build my old friend. You've picked a real beauty with the HB C.I. Looking forward to seeing more.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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glad the links will help. i had nothing , not even a datafile to go on. so i trudged thru google and found that stuff which had good views of the slatted floor , framing , seat/tank , control panel, etc etc etc. so i saved them. hopefully this will save you some research time by allowing you to blow up those pics rather than have to find pics. good luck. this may inspire me to get back on mine. i am thinking i will scratch the wings as i just dont care for vac wings. if you just use the top its too thin, if you use both top and bott its so hard and time consuming to get them thin enuff. so i figure a thin balsa core wrapped with very thin styrene sheet. i plan on embossing the ribs from the inside surface using this neat tool i found at the art supply store. its kinda like a pen with 4 changable tips that are 4 diff sized steel balls. i tryed on scrap, take the smallest tip and drag along a ruler and you get a nice embossed rib. good luck on your deadline. but even if you dont make it continue here.
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Looking great so far, Dan. The wing 'see through effect' is coming along beautifully. Have you seen Peter Plattner's build of the same kit? Thought you might find it interesting.
http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=112210&page=1
Although a challenging kit, it can be built up into a real show stopper, as you can see. I'm looking forward to watching your progress on this.
Cheers,
Bud
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Great start on a neat looking machine. The paint effects are excellent.
Steve
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Hey Guys... :)
I am continually amazed at this group. Thanks so much for all the info on other builds and the references. This will help me so much. Great tips too.
If I actually finish this thing in time, I will be amazed. Even more so if it is to a certain standard! Good for the model building muscles, though... ::)
More later,
Dan
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You have made an excellent start with this model Dan and what you have done so far is great. I'm looking forward to seeing your next progress photos.
Des.
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All,
Some more on this fast build. Cockpit done except for a couple of details like seat belts, a transmitter for the back and some ammo drums for the gunner. Fuselage is together so all is well!
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/DSCN4649_zps5587a73e.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/DSCN4648_zps5ba09d93.jpg)
More soon...
Dan
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Even more finished tonight. I got the fuselage spruced up, painted and the engine installed. I also highlighted the flying surfaces and tails and finally painted on markings all around. Since this is a rather challenging speed build, I'm trying to see how fast I can go and not have the quality suffer too horribly. So far, I do think I need to do some touch up on my fuselage crosses but the overall look is ok.
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/DSCN4650_zps643b2027.jpg)
Tomorrow I'll be forging ahead with the cabanes, bottom wing and maybe begin with some interplanes too. Only a week left!!!! :-\
More soon...Dan
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Wow this ones moving along very fast. Looks great!!
Steve
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Hello All you WWI nuts out there...speaking of nuts...I got more done today! ;D
I got all the struts attached, the tails on, the wings on and all lined up and finally put on the landing gear and tail skid. This model as a really interesting sit. Kind of squat and the tilted interplane struts are interesting too.
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_9233_zps6998e574.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_9232_zpsd2ab70d1.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_9231_zps0ab58fcd.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_9230_zps38ea8485.jpg)
Anyway, I got lots done this weekend and now things will likely slow down. :'(
Lots of touch up, details to add and of course all the rigging to go. Can I get it done by Monday the 18th??? Stay tuned!! :o
Thanks for looking....Dan
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Man, that's looking sharp now!
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Dan,
She's sure looking good my old friend. Looking forward to the full rigging treatment.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
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Looks great Dan! Such a classic aircraft. The wood and CDL are very convincing. Well done. ;D
Regards,
Bob
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Dan,
Very, very nice work.....and by your progress I'd say you'll make the 18th deadline. Good Luck with that and looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Cheers,
Lance
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its coming along very well keep pressing on and you will make it.
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Everyone,
First, thanks for all the great comments and suggestions. Part of this build is to see if I could really do it in 2 weeks plus a bit and not turn our a piece of junk. Looks ok for a March 18th finish so far!
Below is how she stands now. All rigging (except for the wheel brake on top of the axle) and control rigging are complete. Looks pretty darn cool. I still need to touch up in places like the wheels, but she is looking good.
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_9239_zps47ea2323.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_9241_zps2bfa28e4.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_9242_zps4fb99e30.jpg)
I had a question of the WWI boffins here, though. Should the interplane struts be steal with wood fairings as I've done them, or should they just be metal in color? I do think I should repaint the cabane struts to look like metal, but I'm unsure of the interplanes. Any help would be appreciated. I find documentation for both...albeit those are from artist's representations and other modelers!
Thanks for looking! Next time, just the rear cockpit, radiator, top gun and touch up to go. Such a pretty plane!
Cheers,
Dan
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Great looking model!! Wish I had the same drive you do to get a model done!
Steve
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All done! Take a look over at finished jobs...
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee260/smithdr/IMG_9262_zps727315ba.jpg)
Cheers,
Dan
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Okay now I have to ask - as per the real machine - Why do the starboard interplane struts have more of a forward rake/stagger? Is it something to do with engine torque?
Steve
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Hi Steve,
I don't think they do...it's an illusion! The really odd thing about the interplanes is that they splay wider on the bottom wing and toward the midline on the top wing. That is...they are not perpendicular to the flying surfaces and go opposite of what you'd expect.
Have no idea why!! ???
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Interesting. Now that I look again one of the pics has the port struts looking different - like you say it must be optical.
Steve