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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Vacform Kits => Topic started by: Jim52 on April 23, 2012, 11:01:59 PM

Title: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on April 23, 2012, 11:01:59 PM
Does anyone happen to know if this kit is still available? I thought
I saw it listed in a Hobby Shop in Austrailia but, for the Life of me,
can't seem to find it again.

Jim
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: GAJouette on April 23, 2012, 11:16:30 PM
  Jim,
Good question my friend. Sadly I believe the is OOP. But they do show up on e-bay on at times. E-bay might beyour best shot at finding one.Failing that try some of the old kit dealer around the web. Good luck and I hope you'll find one soon.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on April 23, 2012, 11:36:42 PM
Thanks, Gregory. I'll keep looking. However, I do have a box
with some Vacs in a closet that I've not checked yet. The copy
that I had at one point might be there along with a bunch of
1/48 scale stuff that I do need to dig out and put up for sale.

Jim
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on April 24, 2012, 02:29:14 AM
Is this the kit you were looking for? 

http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/FN301 (http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/FN301)

Not sure about delivery overseas, and the listing doesn't have a pic.
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: GAJouette on April 24, 2012, 03:30:57 AM
  Ian,
Great find my friend.I wonder if it's old stock or if the kit is still in production. It's not a bad kit either especially with some aftermarket goodies added to the mix.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on April 24, 2012, 08:14:05 AM
Ian,
     Yes, that would be it. A bit pricier than it used to be but, still a bargain. At
least you're not shelling out close to a $100 for a Battleaxe or Avis kit and
then having to rebuild it from the ground up. You know what you're in for from
the start. Add in some Aftermarket goodies and you're still ahead of the game.
I wonder if Falcon still has the molds for this?

Jim
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on April 24, 2012, 09:59:26 AM
now i must say the battle axe kit is " le garbage" but i have the avis kit and it is on the level with a roden 1/32 offering. in ways better. in other words the avis kit does have the triangular plywood inside the cockpit and the machine guns(even though they are roden masters) dont have the characteristic sink mark on them. also they include a mylar sheet with gauges.
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Des on April 24, 2012, 10:20:27 AM
The listed price of 17.35 pound, is that about what you would pay for a 1:32 scale vacform kit?

Des.
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on April 24, 2012, 11:28:02 AM
I just bought two of the kits from a shop in Wellington, NZ and, including airmail shipping,
cost 49.53 NZD. About 40 USD. It worked out to about 16 USD per kit. The link for the shop:

                  www.modelcraftsandhobbies.co.nz

Hope this helps someone.

Jim
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: GAJouette on April 24, 2012, 11:49:50 AM
   Jim,
Glad you found the kits my friend. I look forward to seeing what you'll do with these kits. They do build up into excellent models . Now you can start searching out the elusive Tom's Modelwork 1/32 scale Sopwith Tripe
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on April 24, 2012, 12:04:26 PM
That and the round body conversion for the N17. :)

Jim
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jamo on April 24, 2012, 04:56:13 PM
I just bought two of the kits from a shop in Wellington, NZ and, including airmail shipping,
cost 49.53 NZD. About 40 USD. It worked out to about 16 USD per kit. The link for the shop:

                  www.modelcraftsandhobbies.co.nz

Hope this helps someone.

Jim

Thats my local model shop. They carry a good range of Falcon stuff because Falcon is a long established Wellington-based manufacturer. One of the owners, Mike Regan, is a member of our local IPMS club. They are very happy to send stuff just about anywhere overseas.
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on April 24, 2012, 10:50:52 PM
James,
          You're right. I got an e-mail a couple of hours after I ordered saying that they
had already shipped the kits. Now it's up to the Postal Services...Merry Christmas!   ::)
I did spend some time browsing their shop; You're lucky to have them so close by.

Jim
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on April 25, 2012, 09:29:49 AM
what other vac kits does falcon make. ive heard the 1/32 ev mentioned a few diff times. i am kinda liking the vacs lately, maybe i will become another gregory jouette someday.
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: GAJouette on April 25, 2012, 10:23:54 AM
   Scott,
Uh would that make you a "Mini Me" ? LOL. As best as I can remember they offered at one several different vacuform kit from the WW II era and also a few conversion kits. Although I'm by no means certain I believe they may have had a B.E 2 or 12. I do remember a good friend of mine from Shreveport IPMS club that build that built up vac B.E something or other.As I remember the basic kit was pretty good but the finished project was absolutely fantastic with all the added details included.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jamo on April 25, 2012, 08:53:50 PM
what other vac kits does falcon make. ive heard the 1/32 ev mentioned a few diff times. i am kinda liking the vacs lately, maybe i will become another gregory jouette someday.

The only other WWI subject appears to be a BE2c vacform in 1/48:
http://www.modelcraftsandhobbies.co.nz/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=4583&category_id=9af73185b6d041271e523be77a1756ac&
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: ALBATROS1234 on April 28, 2012, 02:56:45 PM
ah be2c, kinda pointless with the roden around. i imagine me building vacs for craft i cant find a proper kit for like the hb c1 and spad a2/a4 i have. i also want a koster hannover and a few other sierra vacs that there isnt any kit for. i act like i need some sort of plastic for every great war subject.haha
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jamo on April 28, 2012, 09:23:27 PM
The Falcon BE2c was out years before the Roden one was released. Probably not much of a market for it now.
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on May 04, 2012, 10:58:31 AM
Well, the package from Wellington arrived today. ;D As I'm getting ready
for work, I don't have time to take and post pictures but, will do so in the
morning.

Jim
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: RAGIII on May 04, 2012, 11:03:08 PM
looking forward to your build as I have had one of these in the stash for years! Perhaps if you start yours WNW will issue one  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on May 04, 2012, 11:05:35 PM
Well, as mentioned, here's what comes in the box. Pretty basic but what's there looks
to be good; especialy considering the age of the kit. A few A/M goodies and some basic
scratch building and we should be good to go.

Jim


          (http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr169/Jim652/Fok%20DVIII/BS001.jpg?t=1336139933)
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on May 04, 2012, 11:16:51 PM
RAGIII,
           I guess I'll have to build it now. ;D. But, somethings got to give. I
have little time as it is right now and I would like to get on with the Bristol
Scout. Maybe the GB at the other site will have to go??

Jim
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Chris Johnson on May 05, 2012, 01:07:15 AM
I've never built a vac kit so I'll be watching this with interest. For newbies like me, you can never post too many photographs of your progress.

Cheers,

Chris
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: GAJouette on May 05, 2012, 01:14:55 AM
RAGIII,
           I guess I'll have to build it now. ;D. But, somethings got to give. I
have little time as it is right now and I would like to get on with the Bristol
Scout. Maybe the GB at the other site will have to go??

Jim

   Jim,
I hate to see the Bristol Scout over at GWAF go. I hope you can work in both projects together for both GB's my friend.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on May 05, 2012, 10:25:34 AM
Chris,
        I have followed your builds with interest. There is nothing in building a Vac that you, or,
for that matter, anyone here, can't handle. So, buy one and follow along! Who knows? A couple
of us building might encourage Falcon to think about doing some more 1/32 kits? That would sure
make Wellington the 1/32 WW1 aircraft capital of the World!  ;D

Jim

PS: I'll try and find a way to post here any drawings I make for this build.
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on May 05, 2012, 10:31:28 AM
Gregory,
             I think I'm going to transfer the Scout to this Forum. I really like the
focus on modeling here. I have found myself coming to this Forum and feeling
more comfortable than to GWAF. What will have to give is the Roden GB at
GWAF. I just don't have the time right now for more than 2 projects.

Jim
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: pepperman42 on May 06, 2012, 12:36:09 AM
...and more importantly you start building the vac and a good injection kit will come out.........(got one of these so Im only shooting myself in the foot) but for cutting your teeth on vac forms the DVIII is a good one.

Steve
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on May 06, 2012, 08:49:52 AM
Steve,
         Don't I know it! Over at the 'Drome there is a thread I started on converting the
Hobbycraft N 17 back to a N11. I had the Fuselage parts Laser cut and had the wings
back-dated when Special Hobby announced their N11. OK then, I'll do a Sopwith Pup.
Got started on that and along comes WnW with their's. So, hang in there Guys and Gals,
there's a Bristol Scout and a Fokker E5/ D-VIII in the works out there!  ;D ::) ;D

Jim
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: GAJouette on August 01, 2012, 04:29:18 AM
  Jim,
How's the D.VIII progressing my friend?
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Jim52 on August 01, 2012, 07:04:51 AM
Gregory,
             It's fighting me every step of the way. I suppose that if I built
it as it came from the sheet and not tried to "upgrade" it; things would
be going a lot smoother!  :-[ :P :o :o :o

Jim
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: Rob_Owens on April 26, 2013, 09:17:45 AM
I have a 1/32 Falcon E.V/D.VII about 3/4 done, which means "scratchbuild all internal detail." One advantage of WWI vac kits over injection-molded is near scale thickness of fuselage "skin." This allows one to add structural/component details based on scale drawings.  I too backdated a 1/32 Nie. 17 to a 1/32 Bebe shortly before the Special Hobby kit became available (c'set la vie...) and found a material indespensible to scratchbuilders "Supafilla". . .
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: GAJouette on April 27, 2013, 01:13:41 AM
  Roy,
Wow another vac Fokker underway! I hope you'll share your progress with us my friend. You can never have enough vacuform projects around for me. I'd love to see your Nieuport project as well.
Highest Regards,
Gregory Jouette
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: ermeio on February 18, 2015, 06:01:08 AM
They made a be 2
And it was very nice, since it was easy to obtain translucent wings.
They are good vacs
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: KiwiZac on April 29, 2015, 12:12:14 PM
I'm very tempted to pick up one of these as they're so cheap, my intention was to do it with a WNW engine but it doesn't look like they do a 9cyl. Oberursel. Would the DH.2/Eindecker engine work in its place, otherwise what are the aftermarket options for a new engine for this kit?

Also, what accuracy issues have other folk discovered with the kit?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: uncletony on April 29, 2015, 03:57:57 PM
I'm very tempted to pick up one of these as they're so cheap, my intention was to do it with a WNW engine but it doesn't look like they do a 9cyl. Oberursel. Would the DH.2/Eindecker engine work in its place...



No. Completely different engine. The EV / DVIII was powered by the Ur.II which was a clone of the Le Rhone 9J (big copper induction pipes etc). The E.III was powered by the U.I, which was a clone of the Gnome Delta Monosoupape. (single valve, single pushrod per cyl)

Vector makes a Ur.II.
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: KiwiZac on April 29, 2015, 06:05:13 PM
Thanks Bo, my other OLHS has the Vector one in stock. Looks like I have a project!
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: KiwiZac on May 01, 2015, 08:29:05 AM
Further investigation at Sprue Brothers shows another option: a kit by Roden - http://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/rod624.htm

Does anyone know how this compares to the Vector resin item Roden kit also seems to include a prop, which the Vector doesn't.
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: RAGIII on May 01, 2015, 09:07:29 AM
The Roden engine isn't too bad although not on the same level as Taurus or other well done resin. It is molded in two parts down the centerline so a little seam cleanup is needed. With the kit you have posted there are a few pe parts but no real advantage to what one could do with wire and a little clever work done to the standard DR1 version. If you have access to the Encore version of the F1 Triplane you get a resin copy and the original plastic engine, so you would have a spare  8). Also an Eduard Pe set for the aircraft with resin updates. This kit is a bargain here in the states.
IHTH,
RAGIII
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: KiwiZac on May 01, 2015, 11:43:02 AM
That's a good point, I have been looking at the Roden Triplane and had noted it has two engines. I've also seen that on Sprue Brothers for relatively cheap. Thanks RAG!
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: RAGIII on May 02, 2015, 11:18:27 AM
Just a note. Only the ENCORE kit has two engines!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: KiwiZac on May 04, 2015, 06:35:09 AM
 8) I saw that, I read some in-box reviews of both boxings and decided the "Encore"/Voss boxing was the one to go for.

Am I right in guessing there are no A/M interiors for this kit, or the E.V/D.VIII in general? I think it'll be a fun scratchbuilding exercise anyway.
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: RAGIII on May 04, 2015, 08:15:52 AM
8) I saw that, I read some in-box reviews of both boxings and decided the "Encore"/Voss boxing was the one to go for.

Am I right in guessing there are no A/M interiors for this kit, or the E.V/D.VIII in general? I think it'll be a fun scratchbuilding exercise anyway.

Actually Part makes a DR1 interior as does Eduard. ( IF you get the ENcore kit you get the Basic Eduard stuff so not needed. There is also a Fokker DVI interior set by Part that has ammo cans and other good stuff that would mostly work on the DR1. As far as I know no parts are available for the EV although a bunch of the DR1 stuff could/can be used.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: KiwiZac on May 04, 2015, 09:29:31 AM
Sorry, I meant aftermarket for the Razor rather than the Dr.I  :-X
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: RAGIII on May 04, 2015, 11:07:40 AM
Sorry, I meant aftermarket for the Razor rather than the Dr.I  :-X

Like I said, Nothing for the EV/Razor I am aware of. Some/Many of the DR1 parts would be useful.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Falcon 1/32 Fok. E5/DVIII
Post by: KiwiZac on May 04, 2015, 11:30:24 AM
Definitely something to bear in mind, then. Thanks again, Rick!