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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Pup7309 on November 13, 2022, 11:12:47 AM
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https://spruebrothers.com/wingnut-wings/ (https://spruebrothers.com/wingnut-wings/)
Hopefully if confirmed, Sprue Brothers will be selling off the the last of WNW inventory. With Andy’s possibly to come.
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and all sold out..
that gotha UWD would have been a fun build, but way to damned expensive
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The sellers announcement:
https://spruebrothers.com/latest-news/ (https://spruebrothers.com/latest-news/)
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Andy's Hobby Headquarters has a container full of WNW about to be released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8_fAhg-8Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8_fAhg-8Y)
Mike
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Andy's Hobby Headquarters has a container full of WNW about to be released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8_fAhg-8Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA8_fAhg-8Y)
Mike
The Andy's HHQ shipping container (40ft) isn't expected to arrive on the west coast until mid-December, then it'll have to clear customs and get transported to Phoenix. His list of expected inventory will be posted and he'll be taking preorders starting at 6PM EST. On his video he also said that his affiliates in the UK/EU will be receiving some from a separate shipment.
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Hi
Looks like most kits went super quick I tried to order The 1914 Taube and Early Rumpler but alas looks like they only ship to US and Canada. Sigh.
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Hi
Looks like most kits went super quick I tried to order The 1914 Taube and Early Rumpler but alas looks like they only ship to US and Canada. Sigh.
And Mexico... but Sprues Brothers seem not to have the shipping limitations. I am waiting...
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Wonder if any European dealer will receice a share. US shipping has become rather prohibitive and it’d be nicer to pay taxes less than three times.
Hannants has the USD on (slight) discount by the way.
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Does no one find it odd that years after WNW ceases operation enough kits to fill 40ft containers appear on the market? Where are these being shipped from? Were they released after the financial situation was sorted out or......we know the Lancaster situation with Border. Yes, nice to see them but....
Steve
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https://www.hannants.co.uk/manufacturer/wingnut-wings (https://www.hannants.co.uk/manufacturer/wingnut-wings)
"We have just listed a selection of Wingnut Wings we have on the way to us. They will not arrive for a few weeks, so we recommend you backorder them which will reserve any that you may want. All new kits bought direct from Wingnut Wings in New Zealand."
To backorder you will need to go to each individual kit.
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As I understand it what we are seeing is the clearance of warehouse stocks from the NZ warehouse. Wingnuts planned to do online sales themselves but someone chucked it into the 'too hard' basket and the stock was instead sold off to international model retailers.
Naturally this has spawned theories about Wingnuts reviving the business. Not happening, all of the WnW staff now work elsewhere and while the Wingnuts company still exists, there's nobody there to design or make kits. What we are seeing is the last hurrah and from here on in the Wingnut kits will largely be condemned to circulate in the ether as collector items at stupid prices.
Those who fantasise that Sir Peter Jackson will sell the tooling of the WnW kits to another manufacturer lose sight of the fact that he's not the sort of businessman who gives away valuable assets to rivals. The tooling (which is housed in China and South Korea) will go into storage, like the full sized Lancaster replicas he made for the Dambusters movie that never happened.
The Meng Fokker Dr.1s and Border Lancaster happened because Wingnuts had not completed payments to the toolmakers, and the tooling was forfeited. Wingnuts did apparently complete payments for the Handley Page O/100 and O/400 kits, which is why they have not been grabbed by another manufacturer.
So all in all the last appearance of these kits at retail prices is a bittersweet moment and a sad ending to a company that revolutionised the WW1 hobby.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Thank you, Dave, once more for your clear summary of the facts!
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To answer my own question, Hannants and MBK will receive shipments. H already has it on backorder.
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To answer my own question, Hannants and MBK will receive shipments. H already has it on backorder.
Can you really confirm anyhow, that MBK are getting the shipment?
EDIT. I have just found the confirmation in a Youtube film. Thanks :-)
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So far:
Modellbau König (Germany)
Sprue Brothers (USA)
Andy's Hobby Headquarters (USA)
Hannants (UK),
Mike
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OK, so we now know that Sprue Brothers, Andy's, Hannants and MBK are all awaiting shipments containing the last of the NZ WNW warehouse stock.
After a long period of dormancy, apart from a few kits sold at an NZ airshow, this would appear to be the bean-counters at WNW finally addressing what to do with the carcass of the once-beautiful Wingnuts dream - ie clearing the decks.
This would be a good time to make sure you've downloaded everything you might want from the WNW website. It is a goldmine of info, pictures, techniques etc but likely to be superfluous to the money-men's business plan going forward.
Sandy
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Just ordered some from the big H who along with everyone else shows a list of available kits but looking at the WnW's available list they list the brown box series which does not appear on any traders. Has anyone got any ideas?
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Thank you for the clarification Dave and good point Sandy.
Steve
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So nothing near Australia with reasonable postage rates. Pity.
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Just ordered some from the big H who along with everyone else shows a list of available kits but looking at the WnW's available list they list the brown box series which does not appear on any traders. Has anyone got any ideas?
I have no ideas, but the same question.
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Just ordered some from the big H who along with everyone else shows a list of available kits but looking at the WnW's available list they list the brown box series which does not appear on any traders. Has anyone got any ideas?
Many possibilities there.
1. The info in WNW page about their availability is outdated.
2. The kits might have been sold at the event in NZ.
3. The batch of them might be so small that not worthy dispatching.
4. They keep these for the Christmas gifts next year.
5. The model shops might have decided not to venture into the sales of these kits for unknown reasons.
6. Sir PJ took all of them planning to build dioramas with a/c from each Jasta.
...just to name a few... ;)
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So nothing near Australia with reasonable postage rates. Pity.
Yes afraid so. Shame BNA or someone else didn’t get a look in
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Just ordered some from the big H who along with everyone else shows a list of available kits but looking at the WnW's available list they list the brown box series which does not appear on any traders. Has anyone got any ideas?
I have no ideas, but the same question.
Also the spare sprues and decals - did they get chucked?
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So far:
Modellbau König (Germany)
Sprue Brothers (USA)
Andy's Hobby Headquarters (USA)
Hannants (UK),
Mike
And apparently a place in Canada
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And apparently a place in Canada
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Yes, Sunward Hobbies in Toronto.
https://www.sunwardhobbies.ca
Cheers,
Lance
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It's interesting that the last of the NZ warehouse stock is being shared around retailers in the Northern Hemisphere, but apparently none has been set aside for Australian or NZ model retailers.
This may change but none of our major hobby stores has made any announcements about incoming WnW stock, which means Aussie and Kiwi modellers will be hit with the double whammy of exchange rates and postage costs if we buy from the USA, German, Canadian or British sources.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Has there been word about what has happened to those last „brown-box“-issues of late WnW?
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It's interesting that the last of the NZ warehouse stock is being shared around retailers in the Northern Hemisphere, but apparently none has been set aside for Australian or NZ model retailers.
This may change but none of our major hobby stores has made any announcements about incoming WnW stock, which means Aussie and Kiwi modellers will be hit with the double whammy of exchange rates and postage costs if we buy from the USA, German, Canadian or British sources.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
So true Dave, the final bill after exchange rate, exchange interest and GST is a killer for us antipodeans.
Neither of us got a look in after they closed either, or HLJ which may have worked out slightly cheaper.
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Has there been word about what has happened to those last „brown-box“-issues of late WnW?
Not sure. I think some did turn up at one of the stores during lockdown but went quickly
Have they all gone ? Not sure but so far no one is listing them
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As I understand it what we are seeing is the clearance of warehouse stocks from the NZ warehouse. Wingnuts planned to do online sales themselves but someone chucked it into the 'too hard' basket and the stock was instead sold off to international model retailers.
Naturally this has spawned theories about Wingnuts reviving the business. Not happening, all of the WnW staff now work elsewhere and while the Wingnuts company still exists, there's nobody there to design or make kits. What we are seeing is the last hurrah and from here on in the Wingnut kits will largely be condemned to circulate in the ether as collector items at stupid prices.
Those who fantasise that Sir Peter Jackson will sell the tooling of the WnW kits to another manufacturer lose sight of the fact that he's not the sort of businessman who gives away valuable assets to rivals. The tooling (which is housed in China and South Korea) will go into storage, like the full sized Lancaster replicas he made for the Dambusters movie that never happened.
The Meng Fokker Dr.1s and Border Lancaster happened because Wingnuts had not completed payments to the toolmakers, and the tooling was forfeited. Wingnuts did apparently complete payments for the Handley Page O/100 and O/400 kits, which is why they have not been grabbed by another manufacturer.
So all in all the last appearance of these kits at retail prices is a bittersweet moment and a sad ending to a company that revolutionised the WW1 hobby.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Such a pitty that Sir Peter Jackson would prefer keeping those tooling molds stored in warehouses collecting dust, instead of giving/selling them to some manufacturer to continue production in a gesture of goodwill to WWI modellers, if he's done with it and WNW business is over, for god's sake it must be given away, otherwise it seems like greed and bitterness supersedes his personality, afterall he's not such a nice "Sir"
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I'm pretty sure Sir PJ is not being malevolent, he's just a hoarder. Any video I've seen of his collection shows masses of items with no rhyme or reason to categorization. I would suggest he's not denying the moulds to other manufacturers, it's just part of his stuff. WE want his kits re issued but do kit companies REALLY want to get involved? I know I'm speaking like a heretic but the accountants run the show. The last shot of kits was probably sold mostly to speculators not builders and subject matter did not drive demand. Cruel words I know....
Steve
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Neither of us got a look in after they closed either
Well, NZ did get a last-chance sale of sorts although you had to go to an airshow to buy the things:
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And look, there were the brown boxes...
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This is pure guesswork and supposition but it might be that Wingnut group have held back the brown box kits for airshow sales involving TVAl, or they have been sold to a retailer yet to be identified.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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So how many down under managed to get hold of their kits from the airshow?
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So how many down under managed to get hold of their kits from the airshow?
I remember from social media some people who were proud of their purchases... And I was envious... ;) And I still am ;D
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Interestingly, Hannants listed one of the brown box Albatros kits on their website when they first logged the awaited WNW delivery for backorder - but it was withdrawn within a few days. They must have thought they were getting some initially but then had their expectations corrected.
Sandy
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So how many down under managed to get hold of their kits from the airshow?
From memory (it was last February) the sales team still had some kits to take back. I should've revisited the stand later in the day but I had my nephew with me.
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The speculation and panic (not everyone) is pretty frustrating...Kotare Models - maybe they can step in ;)
Steve
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This is pure guesswork and supposition but it might be that Wingnut group have held back the brown box kits for airshow sales involving TVAl, or they have been sold to a retailer yet to be identified.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Hi Dave. No idea! Maybe some will pop up next year. (?)
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hey gang - just got an email from Sprue Brothers. WnW in stock!
just got a D.1 that i missed out on.
I suggetst you move quickly!
good luck
terry
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Yeah, I had several on my wish list and just got the email from them. Bought the 3 I really wanted. If Andy's come through with my pre-order, I'll end up with 2 of the Albatros BII. Like that's a problem. :)
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Hi all
Well I bagged a Taube like I wanted to but the Hansa Brandenburg w12 had already sold out- doh!
Oh well might be able to do a trade later with someone
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I received my first batch of Wingnut Wings kits from Sprue Brothers today. Each one is encapsulated in cellophane. I haven't seen this before.
Stuart
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I received my first batch of Wingnut Wings kits from Sprue Brothers today. Each one is encapsulated in cellophane. I haven't seen this before.
Stuart
Hi Stuart, SB seals all their kits (if not done by original source)
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This is both happy and sad times. I'm glad many on this forum got kits they were looking and hoping to find. At the same time it is the end of an era.....maybe just a pause.... :'(
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Just got this: Kitlinx announced they got a shipment of WnW:
https://www.kitlinx.com/cgi/search.cgi?terms=wnw32 (https://www.kitlinx.com/cgi/search.cgi?terms=wnw32)
Looks to be the same selection that Andy's and SprueBrothers got. Prices about the same as SprueBrothers. And they're not sold out yet :)
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Wonder what the price to dealers was from the accountants that released the stock? Usually it's significantly discounted to get rid of it. The selling prices vs the original WNW prices is significantly higher - ie clearly speculative.....ok I'm stating the obvious I suppose...For what it's worth, other than those that have been destroyed/lost all molds seem to reappear eventually......jus sayin yo'.......I can wait for the Hex Nut Rudder kit......(now known as HNR)
Steve
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Wonder what the price to dealers was from the accountants that released the stock? Usually it's significantly discounted to get rid of it. The selling prices vs the original WNW prices is significantly higher - ie clearly speculative.....ok I'm stating the obvious I suppose...For what it's worth, other than those that have been destroyed/lost all molds seem to reappear eventually......jus sayin yo'.......I can wait for the Hex Nut Rudder kit......(now known as HNR)
Steve
Who knows. Maybe firesale with a stipulation to be sold at retail?- purely a guess.
I was looking at the two Gotha G1 and UWD. The thought popped into my head - ‘what were they thinking?!’ Although a masterpiece in themselves, I can’t help thinking WNW owner could have covered other subjects, for staff to spend R and D time, before the crash and burn.
Water under the bridge now. Im looking forward to what Kotare brings out, even though WW2, I’m hoping there’s a few WW1, or even pre or post ww1 aircraft on offer. I will be adding a Spit or 2 to the stash, they look really good- WNW quality. From across the ditch - Go NZ !
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Hannants have received their delivery, and I got the four kits that I put on back order last year.
Christmas has come early guys!
David
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Hannants have received their delivery, and I got the four kits that I put on back order last year.
Christmas has come early guys!
David
Me, too, me, too, me, too!!! :) :) :)
Fokker D.VII, Junkers D.I, Bristol F.2b Late and DH.9 are being packed as we speak...
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Well pleased got my order in, Albatros B2, USAS Camel and a Roland C11
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Congratulations folks, I'm so happy for you all! I'me xcited to follow your builds as they make their way through your progressive queues.
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I bought a few on my "never going to get another chance for one" list and missed a few more. Which got me to thinking... Instead of spending money on a dead and gone model company, why not support a young and growing one? So,I popped over to Copper State and pre-ordered a Scout. And, because they're offering free shipping over 100euro, bought a Caudron as well. Two for around the price of a single WNW.
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I bought a few on my "never going to get another chance for one" list and missed a few more. Which got me to thinking... Instead of spending money on a dead and gone model company, why not support a young and growing one? So,I popped over to Copper State and pre-ordered a Scout. And, because they're offering free shipping over 100euro, bought a Caudron as well. Two for around the price of a single WNW.
A fair point. But then, why not go for both? As for me, besides the last WNWs mentioned above, I have Caudron since it was released (currently on the bench) and Bristol Scout preordered since it was announced ;)
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Also don't forget to preorder Lukgraph's Lohner L.
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Also don't forget to preorder Lukgraph's Lohner L.
obligatory ;D ;D ;D