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Title: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: RAGIII on June 03, 2022, 02:02:18 AM
The Markings on the Pfalz of Jasta 10 Leader Hans Klein has gone through three theories now.
1. The Stripe was Jasta 10 Yellow
2. The Stripe was darker than the Yellow nose so Black was thought to be correct
3: Now this:
 (https://i.postimg.cc/kGLRrBDk/285053244-573785054116619-4276986351854447299-n.png)

This is why I Love WW1 aircraft markings  8) Any thoughts ?

RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: bobs_buckles on June 03, 2022, 03:37:04 AM
Yes, this stood out to me too.
I went with black, but if there is proof that it is indeed red I'm happy to know.

Bob  ;)
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: RAGIII on June 03, 2022, 10:04:22 AM
Quote from: bobs_buckles on June 03, 2022, 03:37:04 AM
Yes, this stood out to me too.
I went with black, but if there is proof that it is indeed red I'm happy to know.

Bob  ;)

Bob,
I don't actually have the book but a friend has sent me the relative info in the form of scans. My understanding is that red is based on the following:
1. The stripe appears darker than the chrome yellow but lighter than the black crosses.
2. Apparently Klein used red stripes on an earlier Albatros DV while with Jasta 4
3. He served in a regiment that had red hat bands as their color.
All Very circumstantial but I like the red so will probably go that way. Remember that Greg van Wyngarden in his usual style said the stripe was "Probably" black  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: bobs_buckles on June 04, 2022, 05:27:30 AM
Red does look nice  ;)
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/lnOG1o6Cdc3kKjuray/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e471kshu8fuv7wihjahczr4pa6g3j0o3kevr01l41vj&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: RAGIII on June 05, 2022, 09:01:12 AM
Quote from: bobs_buckles on June 04, 2022, 05:27:30 AM
Red does look nice  ;)
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/lnOG1o6Cdc3kKjuray/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e471kshu8fuv7wihjahczr4pa6g3j0o3kevr01l41vj&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Pf2CvR6c/IMG-20220604-184436859.jpg)

Still need to do a bit of touch up  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: bobs_buckles on June 05, 2022, 09:51:21 PM
Looks lovely from where I'm sitting.  ;)

Bob
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: RAGIII on June 06, 2022, 02:47:39 AM
Quote from: bobs_buckles on June 05, 2022, 09:51:21 PM
Looks lovely from where I'm sitting.  ;)

Bob

Thanks Bob  ;D The red certainly brightens things up. It does take some getting used to after black being the "Norm" for years!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: coyotemagic on June 07, 2022, 04:11:07 AM
Love the red, Amigo! I think you made the right choice!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: RAGIII on June 07, 2022, 10:54:11 PM
Quote from: coyotemagic on June 07, 2022, 04:11:07 AM
Love the red, Amigo! I think you made the right choice!
Cheers,
Bud

Thanks Amigo. I Do like the change  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: dr 1 ace on June 08, 2022, 04:11:00 AM


I like the red too !  I sent a pm about the decals.

Ed
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: RAGIII on June 08, 2022, 05:16:22 AM
Quote from: dr 1 ace on June 08, 2022, 04:11:00 AM


I like the red too !  I sent a pm about the decals.

Ed

Thanks Amigo! I just sent a reply to your PM!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: WD on June 18, 2022, 01:02:19 AM
I'm down on the side of red too. If it wasn't, it should've been. :)

WD
Title: Re: Pfalz DIII of Hans Klein: New Theory?
Post by: RAGIII on June 18, 2022, 01:17:43 AM
Quote from: WD on June 18, 2022, 01:02:19 AM
I'm down on the side of red too. If it wasn't, it should've been. :)

WD

 ;D  Yep! One could actually make an argument for any of the three choices...even Jasta 10 yellow  ::) But as you have seen, I Like the RED!
RAGIII