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Title: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on April 30, 2022, 07:26:30 PM
Hi all!

I thought I would break this one out into its own thread. I am currently building two Fokker Dr.1's from Eduard in 1/48. The first, I am converting into a 'what if' sea plane - see the thread here:

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12812.0

The second, I am building as a conventional Dr.1. I have it in mind to build as Kempf's Jasta Boelcke machine; I have always had a 'thing' for this machine ever since I first tried to ham-fistedly build the DML Dr.1 as a teen way back in the 90s (let's just say etch was a brand new thing to me and it didn't end well...!)

The Eduard kit is quite lovely out of the box. Here are some of the progress pics previously posted over in the other thread - at last update, I had completed the interior, engine, and propeller. The cockpit is largely out of the box, with the addition of trigger and throttle cables, the addition of the fuel hand pump, and omission of the Bosch starter that the kit instructions would have you install. The engine and prop are from the kit.

(https://i.imgur.com/EZfM5wh.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/TFkGKyU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/sUAzKug.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/UxtCxUF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SSOs48t.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/mBwqLo7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/16uxdsq.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/xpRoitq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DNyv7r4.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/8FF4k7q.jpg)

I've recently moved home, and have now re-set up the bench (including with a shiny new cutting matt, unsullied by years of glue and paint spills). So... time to get back into it!

I have now cleaned up all of the major components, as well as removing the incorrect inspection window on the upper wing (i'll re-add one in the proper location a little later).

One of the major issues with the Eduard kit is the undercarriage. Built out of the box, the legs are too long, and the corresponding 'sit' of the model is noticeably "off" - the model sits way too high at the front, and thus the aircraft 'tilts' too far back when on its legs. A while back (~2009), Pheon were including a page with their 1/48 Fokker decals that provided a template for a jig, and instructions on how to best modify the kit for the correct sit. They identify the issue as being effectively two fold; the forward legs are a too long, and the way that Eduard have you build the kit, the rear legs are tricky to seat properly in their slots on the fuselage sides. Pheon recommend the lower wing is cut in half at the spar, the under-fuselage cover piece added to the fuselage, and the gear legs set at the correct angle using the jig, with the wings being able to be 'slotted' back into the gap after the undercarriage is actually installed. Accordingly, I made the requisite jig (with a few additions), cleaned up the undercarriage legs, and added them to the axle wing, letting the glue set the legs at the correct angles.

(https://i.imgur.com/50zJ4bX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/stymSl2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YaLzwCQ.jpg)

It now looks like it will definitely sit at the more appropriate angle once done, so I am happy with these adjustments. When it comes time for final construction, i'll follow the Pheon advice and install the lower wing after the undercarriage, middle wing and interplane struts are on.

The observant will also notice I have omitted the kit axle; I'll add one from metal tube later, for strength. I intend on switching the kit wheels out with wheels from the old DML kit, which I think have more definition (good for washes) and just seem to 'look' a bit better to my eye.

So that's where she sits (pardon the pun). Onwards and upwards!

Cheers,

Brad
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Bughunter on April 30, 2022, 09:45:16 PM
Brad, that looks really nice what you have done so far. You are a very experienced builder!

One comment regarding the intake pipes (as often discussed):
The german rotaries do not use copper pipes, shortage economy and copper do not go together. ;)
(http://www.airventure.de/tipps_dayton/USAF_Museum_Oberursel_UR_2_Triebwerk.jpg)
http://www.airventure.de/tipps_dayton/USAF_Museum_Oberursel_UR_2_Triebwerk.jpg

Some has copper ones, as the Richthofen engine in museum, but those are captured engines or imported Thulin engines from Sweden. But the engines produced in Oberursel used steel.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: KiwiZac on May 01, 2022, 07:15:25 AM
Your interior work is gorgeous Brad, well done! The landing leg info is very handy - I don't have any immediate plans to build this kit but I've bookmarked it as a reference when I inevitably cave and get one or three!
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on May 01, 2022, 08:40:49 AM
Thanks gents - thanks also Frank for the advice on the engine, I had seen that before but overlooked it (i.e. forgotten) this time - looks like I have some touch ups to do :)

Cheers!

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Alexis on May 01, 2022, 10:37:10 AM
Lovely work in the pit so far Brad


Alexis
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: gedmundson on May 01, 2022, 11:06:51 PM
Stellar work so far Brad. Those propellers really look great. Great heads-up on the landing gear problem with this kit (good to know for my future build of the Eduard kit).

I must not pay enough attention to these threads...since Frank’s comment about the non-copper intake pipes was new to me. I stood right next to MvR’s Oberursel at Duxford and took a photo, not even noticing that important detail  ::)

Looking forward to following your builds

Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: RAGIII on May 02, 2022, 11:06:10 PM
Gorgeous interior work and the props are amazing!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: andonio64 on May 02, 2022, 11:52:38 PM
I am amazed by your work Brad, and that jig... building the jig would take to me the same time you take to build the whole model!!!
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: WD on May 03, 2022, 08:50:11 AM
Absolutely lovely work Brad.
I had forgotten about the intakes on the engine myself.


WD
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Dave W on May 03, 2022, 12:03:44 PM
Brad

I always regard your work as 1/48 scale works of art! So delicate and amazing. The Dr.1 project is looking terrific too.

cheers

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on May 03, 2022, 07:15:06 PM
Thankyou everyone!

I now have some Pheon Fokker Streaked Finish decals, so i'll be trying these for the first time on this project. Anyone have any tips with these?

Cheers,

Brad
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on May 08, 2022, 06:34:33 PM
Another small bit of progress... she (and her seaplane brother) now has some teeth  ;D 

I replaced the kit Spandaus with those from Gaspatch. These guns are beautiful, and come effectively as a single part (save the muzzles, which are separate). Ammo chutes and padding behind the gun butts are from the kit.

(https://i.imgur.com/Q75jy67.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/mdooMyc.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/ZIqNL78.jpg)

Otherwise, the major components have been cleaned up, soon to be prepped for some paint. The Eduard kit is such that it is best painted before all of the major assemblies come together. Here comes the fun part...!

Cheers!

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: gbrivio on May 10, 2022, 01:03:14 AM
Great work so far, I like your accurate detailing.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Berman on May 10, 2022, 02:38:05 AM
  Note that the framed celluloid panel covering the serial number on the upper wing is too far back and not over the spar. Eduard used the original Windsock drawing as documentation which had this error.
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on May 10, 2022, 07:02:22 AM
  Note that the framed celluloid panel covering the serial number on the upper wing is too far back and not over the spar. Eduard used the original Windsock drawing as documentation which had this error.

Indeed they did - hence my comments about removing the panel in the first post. I'll rescribe if a bit further forward, over the spar. I did think about getting tricky and detailing inside the panel, but I might stick with the simple option :)

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: PrzemoL on May 10, 2022, 06:18:35 PM
Beautiful results on the interiors and the guns.
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 17, 2022, 06:44:54 PM
Hi everyone - some slow but steady progress on the Eduard Fokker.

Initially I was thinking i'd paint this one as Kempf's famous Jasta Boelcke machine (as I have a soft spot for this, thanks to the old DML kit). But... I wanted something with slightly more colour (and no red...!) I have the following print hanging on my wall, from Barry Weekley - it's a lovely painting of some Jasta 19 triplanes in flight:

(https://i.imgur.com/wTGCS2j.jpg)

I've always liked Hans Koerner's machine, Dr.1 503/17, Wk Nr 2130, with the zig-zag fuselage marking:

(https://i.imgur.com/kqCCp8H.jpg)

This machine has been rendered very nicely by Ronny Bar:

(https://i.imgur.com/9cDh7gh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jyoDaEF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/psrMdXJ.jpg)

It is interesting that this machine when photographed had overpainted crosses; all Jasta 19 machines seemed to have overpainted fuselage crosses (well blended with the original streaked finish) and this one was no exception. Of note, the machine at one point did not have the white wing fields overpainted:

(https://i.imgur.com/ekA1HKy.jpg)

But later, it did:

(https://i.imgur.com/t7wSoOh.jpg)

It also sported a telescopic gunsight, which I'll have to add later on.

This machine is included on the Pheon JG.II decal sheet (and is also included in a weekend edition boxing of this kit, I believe). I decided to go with the version with the unpainted wing fields. I also decided to use the Aviattic Fokker Streaking decals, which would let some pre-shading work show through.

First, I started with some priming followed by some pre-shading:

(https://i.imgur.com/JPyaavt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5T3rb3k.jpg)

Next came the white sections of the wings:

(https://i.imgur.com/wnFv7EC.jpg)

Then, I lightly oversprayed the 'overpainted' crosses on the wings, as well as the under surface and upper surface colours (upon which the translucent streaking decals would later sit over):

(https://i.imgur.com/j6vMMZP.jpg)

I then sprayed the straight edged crosses:

(https://i.imgur.com/6TRRa7Q.jpg)

Then the tail, cowl, and other bits and bobs:

(https://i.imgur.com/zma6v2z.jpg)

Next came the Aviattic decals. These went down reasonably nicely. The pre-cut shapes were not quite right and did not quite fit in a number of places. Luckily, I had their other sheet which effectively represents solid sections of 'streaking', so I could tailor some parts here and there. I also tried to make the painting out of the fuselage crosses fairly obvious, using contrasting sections of the decal, but just allowing a hint of the fuselage crosses to poke through, just as in the photographs of Jasta 19 machines:

(https://i.imgur.com/HuUJnWg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/rFbH2ua.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/O2qsxtw.jpg)

Next came the pointy arrows and other decals:

(https://i.imgur.com/TgB3iZ1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/awHwqXo.jpg)

Then a few extra additions, a flat coat, a little bit of post shading, and the start of some weathering. And here is where she is at the moment:

(https://i.imgur.com/B4oJ1LN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/imvjeoh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yRzG58T.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/COUSUZD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YbN5DrX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lPJ2Zsb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RSAh82V.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/miR25pF.jpg)

The Aviattic decals do show the pre-shading through, but I did have to do a little post shading to get the wing ribs to show through just a little more. I could stand to have them a little more obvious, but I have learned enough times that the art of subtlety is difficult - you're always better served stopping just before you think you have too much :)  These decals are nice to use, but are stretchy, and very difficult to cut once dry (even a sharp knife tends to 'stretch' the decals... arg). Hence I still have some cleaning up to do around wing trailing edges, and so forth. That being said, I do like the representation of streaking; it's not unnaturally even, and does well I think to represent the subtle irregularities of real life hand painting. Decals allow for a cleaner job as well. So, well done Aviattic :)

Likewise, the Pheon decals are very nice, but appear silvered in certain light, even if not in other light, and even with a gloss base. Curious.

So, next is more major construction, and the next round of weathering. But i'll shift my attention back over to my Marine Fokker first, to get it to much the same stage.

As always, feedback, comments, criticisms and tips are welcomed!

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Dave W on June 17, 2022, 08:58:22 PM
Amazing work Brad. I am seriously impressed with this project. I love the subtle weathering too, ideal in this scale.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: kensar on June 17, 2022, 10:12:52 PM
Excellent work, Brad, and a great choice of livery.
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: gedmundson on June 17, 2022, 10:23:21 PM
Very, very impressive, Brad. Totally brilliant work.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: RAGIII on June 17, 2022, 10:45:06 PM
Very, very impressive, Brad. Totally brilliant work.
Cheers,
Gary

I agree completely! Thanks for so clearly showing your process on the painting/ Pre Shading and Streak Decal use. No one has added using Decals for the Fokker Streaking to the thread in Hints and Tips, " Fokker Streaking: Show us your Method", Hint  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: pepperman42 on June 17, 2022, 11:28:44 PM
Incredible work!! Quick question - after you laid down the white background for the wing crosses did you remask and preshade the tapes again?

Steve
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Monty on June 18, 2022, 01:34:37 AM
Looking very, very good Brad! I love your colours and the weathering! A lovely colour scheme I must attempt some day!... Regards, Marc
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: WD on June 18, 2022, 01:45:19 AM
Brad,
       Really, really beautiful work, thanks so much for taking us along so we can watch and learn your process. I was happy to get this set of decals from Aviattic (in 1/72nd though), and, as always, Richard was very for forthcoming with information as to where they did and didn't fit the Eduard 1/72nd kit. Thanks for the heads up about them being stretchy, looks like I'm going to need a sharp scalpel.  :)

A question: were you able to match the light blue return along the bottom of the fuselage with your paint color?  if so, what paint(s) did you use?

Thanks!

WD
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 18, 2022, 09:51:18 AM
Thank you everyone for your kind feedback!

Incredible work!! Quick question - after you laid down the white background for the wing crosses did you remask and preshade the tapes again?

Steve

Hi Steve - I laid the white down so that the pre-shading showed through. I then masked and sprayed the maltese crosses with a slightly darkened version of the white, before masking and spraying the black straight edges crosses. A raw umber wash along the rib helped provide some variation. Unfortunately much of this doesn't show well in the photographs. My camera is now around 17 years old, I really must invest in something less rubbish...!

Brad,
       Really, really beautiful work, thanks so much for taking us along so we can watch and learn your process. I was happy to get this set of decals from Aviattic (in 1/72nd though), and, as always, Richard was very for forthcoming with information as to where they did and didn't fit the Eduard 1/72nd kit. Thanks for the heads up about them being stretchy, looks like I'm going to need a sharp scalpel.  :)

A question: were you able to match the light blue return along the bottom of the fuselage with your paint color?  if so, what paint(s) did you use?

Thanks!

WD

Thanks WD! I cheated a little by masking and spraying the bottom edge of the fuselage in blue, see below (you can just see the blue edge - I didn't paint the edge where the overpainted crosses were going, as the edge would have originally been covered by the white cross field):

(https://i.imgur.com/GjOcx1o.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vNK8915.jpg)

The decals were then trimmed (using trial and error, as the pre-cut templates didn't quite fit), to leave the blue exposed along the bottom edge of the fuselage. That being said, I still tried to do some colour matching for the blue. I think the Aviattic decals are slightly too blue, but I actually liked the colour, so I mixed my own version using a roughly 60%-40% mix of Gunze H417 and H45.

(https://i.imgur.com/IKs1GRH.jpg)

Thanks again!

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: WD on June 18, 2022, 09:56:01 AM
Thanks Brad. I'm of the same opinion as you: quite blue, but I like it!  In any event, I was going to have to search for a new underside blue, saw your efforts, and thought I'd copy you. :) I may try to trim the blue edge away from mine.

Again, beautiful work.

WD
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: pepperman42 on June 20, 2022, 03:08:46 AM
I keep coming back and looking - love this more and more every time! That cowling looks great!!!

Steve
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: bobs_buckles on June 21, 2022, 04:44:33 AM
Beautifully done, Brad  ;)

Bob
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 22, 2022, 06:07:21 PM
Thanks WD, Steve, and Bob :)
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: jeroen_R90S on June 22, 2022, 07:53:42 PM
That looks great!
I tip I may or may not have posted before (hey, aged above 40 now!) is that I used Mr Mark Softer with Aviattic decals. This makes them more brittle and removes the stretchness. They were much more easy to cut and even bend and break after using that on the trailing edges.
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Gene K on June 22, 2022, 10:47:32 PM
A while back (~2009), Pheon were including a page with their 1/48 Fokker decals that provided a template for a jig, and instructions on how to best modify the kit for the correct sit.

Brad,

Do you know if this template is still available?

Beautiful build!

Thanks,

Gene K
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: WD on June 23, 2022, 04:23:43 AM
That looks great!
I tip I may or may not have posted before (hey, aged above 40 now!) is that I used Mr Mark Softer with Aviattic decals. This makes them more brittle and removes the stretchness. They were much more easy to cut and even bend and break after using that on the trailing edges.

jeroen,
          What kind of clear coat did you used underneath before applying Mr. Mark Softer?  (I'm learning more and more about decal setting solutions, and possible incompatible results that can ruin your day.)

Thanks!

WD
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 23, 2022, 06:25:17 PM
That looks great!
I tip I may or may not have posted before (hey, aged above 40 now!) is that I used Mr Mark Softer with Aviattic decals. This makes them more brittle and removes the stretchness. They were much more easy to cut and even bend and break after using that on the trailing edges.

Thanks Jeroen! That's not a bad tip. I've been using Microsol and the decals definitely respond well to this, but they remain stretchy. I don't have any Mr Mark but I might get hold of some and try it on the trailing edges. Thanks for the tip! :)

Brad,

Do you know if this template is still available?

Beautiful build!

Thanks,

Gene K

Thanks Gene! I don't know if you can get hold of the template separately (I don't think so), but if you drop me a PM with your e-mail address I can send you a scan.

Thanks again!

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: WD on June 24, 2022, 02:37:35 AM
OK, totally missed the "sit" discussion at the beginning of this thread. Do you/y'all think that this is a trait just with the 1/48th Eduard kit or does this extend to their 1/72nd boxing?

WD
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on July 15, 2022, 09:05:26 AM
Hi everyone - small update just to keep this one moving along... she's now sitting on her legs. I glued the legs on using the jig again:

(https://i.imgur.com/y831reS.jpg)

I think the 'sit' is quite good and more representative of the proper stance than if the legs were left as provided in the box:

(https://i.imgur.com/IJACh3K.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/xhTk15r.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GHB0MlR.jpg)

Lastly, apologies WD, I didn't answer your question. I don't think the 1/72 kit suffers from the same 'sit' problem as the 1/48 kit. I say this based on build photographs as I have not built the smaller brother myself.

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: RAGIII on July 16, 2022, 04:38:54 AM
The "Sit" looks perfect Brad! I do have to say that if Memory serves, most of the issue was solved by seating the legs "Properly" in the Axle wing. Opening up the location to allow the legs to fit where they should.  At any rate it does look Fantastic!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on July 16, 2022, 06:33:16 PM
Thanks Rick! Some more progress on a rainy afternoon. So, two thirds of the wings are now on.

I had a couple of problems, probably due to the fact that i'd separated the lower wings. These lower wings have an annoying 'sag' now that I haven't been able to straighten out, even with some trimming of the strut mounts. This probably would not have been a problem had I kept the wing as a single piece... maybe. Perhaps when I mount the top wing this might straighten out a little. I also had some problems with the area around the cockpit coaming, which didn't really want to sit down of its own accord. Oh well, they're on now, for better or worse...   :-\

(https://i.imgur.com/hNpSZfm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wMKwipD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2Fzh8KW.jpg)

I also made up a telescopic sight, which was fitted to this machine:

(https://i.imgur.com/7QI88yS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JvP7kzX.jpg)

(These photos are great at showing areas that I need to go back and fix... arg! :-\ )

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: KiwiZac on July 17, 2022, 07:39:18 AM
Lovely work Brad! I'd say the sit looks dead-on but admittedly my experience is mostly with 1/1 replicas!
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on July 17, 2022, 01:29:27 PM
Thanks Zac! 

So i've gone back and had a bit of a look at the wings, prompted by the photo taken from ground level, which makes it look like the port lower wing is drooping more than the starboard lower wing... oddly she seems generally reasonably even when it comes to the distance between the middle and bottom wings. Yes it looks like both lower wings have a slight droop but they both seem to droop pretty evenly.

(https://i.imgur.com/WFUFHab.jpg)

(Apologies for the poor photo - it was done speedily with my phone, with the model placed nose down on my cutting mat).

I wonder then if it's just an optical illusion from the photograph taken at the same level as the model...?  What do you all think?

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: DaddyO on July 17, 2022, 04:45:22 PM
Not a lot wrong with that Brad.  :)

(Love the colour scheme as well; so much so that I picked up some decals and another DR1 kit so I could make one) 8)

Paul
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: KiwiZac on July 18, 2022, 07:02:42 AM
The phone photo seems to show a little droop but I'd be content with that. I didn't see it at all in the other photos!

(Love the colour scheme as well; so much so that I picked up some decals and another DR1 kit so I could make one) 8)
I love seeing things like this!
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: pepperman42 on July 18, 2022, 09:06:50 PM
I have a Russian model that the wings seem crooked on but then it's an optical Ilyushin. Cutting mat grid says everything is even!!

Steve
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: RAGIII on July 18, 2022, 10:48:50 PM
Looks good on the Grid Brad!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: PJ Fisher on July 19, 2022, 05:51:24 AM
What did you use for the wash around the cowling?
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: FAf on July 19, 2022, 07:06:10 AM
I have a Russian model that the wings seem crooked on but then it's an optical Ilyushin. Cutting mat grid says everything is even!!

Steve

😆😆😆
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on July 19, 2022, 07:15:56 AM
Thanks all!

I have a Russian model that the wings seem crooked on but then it's an optical Ilyushin....

I gotta say Steve that made me laugh out loud - who doesn't love a good modelling 'dad joke'  ;D

What did you use for the wash around the cowling?

Hi PJ - the wash is an oil wash, using raw umber oil paint. I am converted to this colour now; I used to use a mix of black and burnt sienna but I find that is quite 'heavy'; the raw umber produces a nicer more subtle result, I think.

Cheers again,

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: KiwiZac on July 19, 2022, 08:52:29 AM
I have a Russian model that the wings seem crooked on but then it's an optical Ilyushin.
;D ;D
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52224657037_d2d90c62aa_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2nyV24k)Yeah Ilyushin (https://flic.kr/p/2nyV24k) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: WD on July 22, 2022, 03:50:40 AM
It's looking beautiful Brad.

WD
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on July 22, 2022, 06:04:00 PM
Thanks all for your support through this build - she is now done (i've finally finished building something...!)  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/Tw2HLQI.jpg)

Completed build photos are here -

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=13221.0

Cheers!

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: FAf on July 23, 2022, 04:57:52 PM
Well done! Looks really good!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on August 01, 2022, 06:53:19 PM
Hi all - a forum member named Chris sent me an e-mail through the forum looking for a scan of the undercarriage jig; unfortunately there was no information regarding a member name or details (the automated e-mail address was that of Des, the previous forum owner). Can the subject Chris please drop me a PM or put their hand up here?

Thanks! :)

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Dobber92 on August 08, 2022, 12:25:31 PM
Hello, that was me asking for the jig thank you btw I appreciate it very much.
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on August 09, 2022, 07:08:13 AM
Hello, that was me asking for the jig thank you btw I appreciate it very much.

Great, thanks Chris! :)

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Syd Solo on August 09, 2022, 11:23:21 AM
Always admire your work, Brad. Brilliant as ever this time.

Cheers

Syd
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Gene K on February 12, 2024, 01:22:37 AM
The "Sit" [using the Pheon jig] looks perfect Brad!  ... most of the issue was solved by seating the legs "Properly" in the Axle wing. Opening up the location to allow the legs to fit where they should. 

So I can avoid building the jig, cutting the wings apart, and possibly facing "wing sag" challenges by "simply" doing a little digging?  ;D  Would you elaborate on how to "properly" seat the legs in the axle wing openings, please?

Gene K
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Brad Cancian on February 12, 2024, 06:08:38 PM
Hi Gene - an option (not tried by me but recommended by Stephen Lawson) is simply to cut down the legs by approx 1/16 of an inch all around, and then trim / shape the ends as needed. If you were to adopt this, I would also do some fettling on either the sides of the rear struts, or open the mount holes of the rear struts once the lower wing is glued on, to get a good fit. The sides of the rear struts in particular mount largely to the side of the fuselage, and indeed there is a slot for this that runs on the side of the fuselage part:

(https://imgur.com/IJACh3K)

In short, I think there would be a way to do it, if you were inclined. I would suggest that ensuring deep holes for the interplane struts would also be a good idea, to help avoid the 'sag' I experienced in my build.

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: WiP - 1/48 Eduard Fokker Dr.1
Post by: Gene K on February 12, 2024, 11:03:43 PM
...  simply to cut down the legs by approx 1/16 of an inch all around, and then trim / shape the ends as needed. If you were to adopt this ... .

Thanks much, Brad.

So, probably overthinking this "issue"  ::), there is still value in building the Pheon jig to assure proper alignment.

Gene K