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Title: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on March 13, 2022, 12:21:05 AM
Hi all,
As the Camel conversion to the 'Comic' night fighter is near completion, It's time for the next model.
I have plenty of 'Wingnut Wings', 'Copper State Models', 'Lukgraph' and others in my stash.
However, I thought this time I make the 'Roden' 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI.

The kit supplied decals, apart from being Roden, are of schemes I'm not keen on, especially the 'Fratz' scheme.
Instead I'll have a go at the following, even though there's very little information on its colour scheme.
I've found only one photograph, one old colour profile and the box art.
I know from the 'Windsock' data file the types of lozenge used so it's just a case of picking what colour to paint the engine cowl.

Mike

Fokker D.VI of Kest 1a (Home Defence) Staffeln, operating from Mannheim in South-West Germany during the Summer of 1918.

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/Kest1a.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/K1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/profile.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on March 13, 2022, 12:31:29 AM
I am certainly looking forward to this one. This is one Roden kit I haven't tackled yet but hope to this year.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Alexis on March 13, 2022, 01:48:55 AM
Not subject often seen , following along Mike


Alexis
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Monty on March 13, 2022, 10:23:30 PM
A great choice of subject - and the kit will respond so well to your amazing refining and detailing, Mike! I will be following closely.... Marc.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: rhwinter on March 14, 2022, 01:36:22 AM
Looking forward to this one, Mike: One if my great favourites since my boyhood-days! Unfortunately not to many individual machines known. I have Roden's kit in my stash and although I am a „KEST-buff“ 😁, I‘ll probably make my D.VI a hungarian „Commie“ - just for a difference..
Richard
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: KiwiZac on March 14, 2022, 07:06:21 AM
Excellent! I'm rather fond of the D.VI - it looks "right" to me. I'm keen to see you work your magic!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Dirigible-Al on March 14, 2022, 08:23:23 AM
A very clean looking fighter the D.VI, a great subject. Certainly looking forward to seeing the build. My guess on the colour on the engine cowel, for what it is worth, would be yellow since this colour is very light in black and white photos and it appears slightly darker than the 'obvious' white bits elsewhere on the photo.
Alan.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Dave W on March 14, 2022, 10:08:29 AM
I'm really glad to see you are doing this kit Mike. I have this in the stash and it's always been one of those "I'll get to it later" ideas.

Now you are putting it right in front of us, I'll follow your build with much interest.

It's good to see Roden kits getting some more attention these days.

cheers

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on March 15, 2022, 09:03:21 PM
A very clean looking fighter the D.VI, a great subject. Certainly looking forward to seeing the build. My guess on the colour on the engine cowel, for what it is worth, would be yellow since this colour is very light in black and white photos and it appears slightly darker than the 'obvious' white bits elsewhere on the photo.
Alan.

Hi Alan,
Yes it's the always present problem when looking at orthochromatic film, the most widely available film during the first World War.
Some actual colours are difficult to define, unless they are supported with unquestionable proof.
The representation of colours such as blue, green or yellow could for instance, look like shades of white.
The 'Comic is a good example, where the known blue stripe on the rudder matches what appears to be white markings on the fuselage.

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/SOPWITH-COMIC/reference/B2402.jpg)

As for the Fokker D.VI I agree that the engine cowl is a darker shade than that of the rudder, which would probably have been the standard white.

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/Kest1a.jpg)

Below are representations of actual colours compared to the same but as orthochromatic film.
Using these as a guide, the nearest 'shade' matching the engine cowl in the photograph is yellow.

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/color.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/orthochromatic.jpg)

Here's a shot of a Fokker E.V which was known to have a yellow cowl and fuselage marking.

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/cowlcolour.jpg)

Lacking any positive proof I'd agree with you, that the cowl was most likely a shade of yellow,

Mike

Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: jamieg on March 16, 2022, 05:01:51 AM
The struts on this kit need to be beefed up or replaced with something more solid. The upper wing is way too heavy for the flimsy plastic and the landing gear struts are wobbly even before you attach the top wing. When I did mine, I assembled it in a jig. When I took it out and sat it on the table, the weight of the top wing caused a complete collapse of the upper wing and that stress caused the landing gear to collapse...
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on March 16, 2022, 05:14:32 AM
Hi all,
The engine has been finished with just 'EZ' line ignition leads added.
I've test fitted the engine to the kit bulkhead and the replacement 'Aviattic' resin engine cowl has been test fitted.
I'll be using the kit propeller as, due to the problems in Europe, sadly I can't get a 'Heine' wood propeller from 'Proper Plane',

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/engdone.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on March 16, 2022, 05:16:56 AM
The struts on this kit need to be beefed up or replaced with something more solid. The upper wing is way too heavy for the flimsy plastic and the landing gear struts are wobbly even before you attach the top wing. When I did mine, I assembled it in a jig. When I took it out and sat it on the table, the weight of the top wing caused a complete collapse of the upper wing and that stress caused the landing gear to collapse...

Hi Jamieg
Yes I did wonder when I looked at the kit struts.
I've made brass tube struts for many of my models, so most likely this one will be no different,

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: KiwiZac on March 16, 2022, 07:11:07 AM
Fascinating analysis, and that colour wheel(?) is a handy tool to help decrypt these old photos.

Lacking any positive proof I'd agree with you, that the cowl was most likely a shade of yellow
Plus yellow just looks so good against lozenge! I vote yellow.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on March 16, 2022, 07:45:00 AM
Fascinating analysis, and that colour wheel(?) is a handy tool to help decrypt these old photos.

Lacking any positive proof I'd agree with you, that the cowl was most likely a shade of yellow
Plus yellow just looks so good against lozenge! I vote yellow.

Yes interesting use of dope on the wheels.
The lined wheel covers were normally painted with dark green or had an olive green outer rim with a lighter green centre. Some aircraft had wheel covers of lozenge linen.

ike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: rhwinter on March 16, 2022, 05:48:10 PM
The struts on this kit need to be beefed up or replaced with something more solid. The upper wing is way too heavy for the flimsy plastic and the landing gear struts are wobbly even before you attach the top wing. When I did mine, I assembled it in a jig. When I took it out and sat it on the table, the weight of the top wing caused a complete collapse of the upper wing and that stress caused the landing gear to collapse...

Jamieg, I am wondering, whether these brass-(cabane-)struts for the Dr.I might also fit the D.VI?
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/aerocraft-acm32fos-fokker-dri-triplane-brass-struts--1316237
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Beto on March 16, 2022, 07:33:28 PM
The struts on this kit need to be beefed up or replaced with something more solid. The upper wing is way too heavy for the flimsy plastic and the landing gear struts are wobbly even before you attach the top wing. When I did mine, I assembled it in a jig. When I took it out and sat it on the table, the weight of the top wing caused a complete collapse of the upper wing and that stress caused the landing gear to collapse...

Jamieg, I am wondering, whether these brass-(cabane-)struts for the Dr.I might also fit the D.VI?
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/aerocraft-acm32fos-fokker-dri-triplane-brass-struts--1316237

No, the D.VI had a two spar top wing and used a strut configuration very similar to the Fokker D.VII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: rhwinter on March 16, 2022, 08:55:41 PM
The struts on this kit need to be beefed up or replaced with something more solid. The upper wing is way too heavy for the flimsy plastic and the landing gear struts are wobbly even before you attach the top wing. When I did mine, I assembled it in a jig. When I took it out and sat it on the table, the weight of the top wing caused a complete collapse of the upper wing and that stress caused the landing gear to collapse...

Jamieg, I am wondering, whether these brass-(cabane-)struts for the Dr.I might also fit the D.VI?
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/aerocraft-acm32fos-fokker-dri-triplane-brass-struts--1316237

No, the D.VI had a two spar top wing and used a strut configuration very similar to the Fokker D.VII

Thank you for the clarification, Beto!
Now we need someone who is able to and wants to produce some strong struts for us…
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: jamieg on March 19, 2022, 05:51:50 PM
The struts on this kit need to be beefed up or replaced with something more solid. The upper wing is way too heavy for the flimsy plastic and the landing gear struts are wobbly even before you attach the top wing. When I did mine, I assembled it in a jig. When I took it out and sat it on the table, the weight of the top wing caused a complete collapse of the upper wing and that stress caused the landing gear to collapse...

Jamieg, I am wondering, whether these brass-(cabane-)struts for the Dr.I might also fit the D.VI?
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/aerocraft-acm32fos-fokker-dri-triplane-brass-struts--1316237

No, the D.VI had a two spar top wing and used a strut configuration very similar to the Fokker D.VII

Thank you for the clarification, Beto!
Now we need someone who is able to and wants to produce some strong struts for us…

I don't really see that happening. It is now a somewhat elderly kit and probably not all that popular. Too bad. Once I made some replacement struts I was very happy with the final result. Some people have complained about the decals fracturing, but mine were fine. I keep telling folks to use warm water when soaking decals but no one ever believes me...
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on March 20, 2022, 03:49:00 AM
I am certain whatever struts you make will be fantastic Mike. About the brass struts mentioned earlier,  they did do a set for the Mikro Mir Fokker EV. As the EV kit used cabanes from the Roden DVI, I wonder if us mere mortals could make them work? If the cabanes are strong the N interplane struts from the kit would probably hold up.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on March 20, 2022, 04:52:46 AM
Hi Rich,
'Aerocraft Models' advertise Brass struts for the Fokker E.V that possibly could be used.
However, finding a retailer that has them in stock is tricky.
Anyway, my guess is that they are casts of the kit parts and probably not that good.
If made from white metal, then a definite no as they'd be nearly as weak as the styrene struts.
If I decide to replace them it'll be with rod and formed tube, as I've done on many of my models,

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Borsos on March 20, 2022, 06:21:44 AM
Hi Rich,
'Aerocraft Models' advertise Brass struts for the Fokker E.V that possibly could be used.
However, finding a retailer that has them in stock is tricky.
Anyway, my guess is that they are casts of the kit parts and probably not that good.
If made from white metal, then a definite no as they'd be nearly as weak as the styrene struts.
If I decide to replace them it'll be with rod and formed tube, as I've done on many of my models,

Mike

They may acrually cast the kit‘s parts, but they cast them in brass. I don’t have the Fokker struts, but I do have some undercarriage struts for an I-16 and an I-153 and contrary to white metal parts, these brass parts from Aerocraft models are very sturdy.
Andreas
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on March 20, 2022, 08:48:57 PM
Hi Andreas,
I must admit I've not seen the 'Aerocraft' cast struts, but as you say, in Brass they should be much stronger than white metal version from other sellers.
I have some white metal sets and would never use them as they are too soft and bend easily.
The photographs of the Brass sets indicate that the castings may need to be cleaned up, which is understandable,

Mike 
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: macsporran on March 21, 2022, 03:10:41 AM
Not sure what the percieved problem with the struts is. I found them perfectly suitable and strong enough when I made mine a few years ago. It was the first 1/32 kit I made on returning to the hobby so I'd likely have hit a problem if there were one - but the kit struts worked fine. It's over in the specific builds section if anybody's interested. (I don't want to photobomb Mike's post.)
Sandy
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on March 21, 2022, 04:52:55 AM
Hi Sandy,
The upper wing is styrene and in two halves and therefore hollow when assembled.
My assumption is that weight on the struts shouldn't be a problem.
However the kit struts do seem to be fairly thin and possibly weak.
That said, they should be OK with careful handling once fitted.
I'll see how it goes but if I'm in any doubt, I'll make replacements,

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Dannyo on March 21, 2022, 07:09:39 AM
I just heard from Alex @ Proper Plane , He & family  are doing fine and taking orders thru Pay Pal.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: iamjohnsname on March 21, 2022, 08:18:16 AM
Now we need someone who is able to and wants to produce some strong struts for us…

I’ve got almost all of the kits in Mike’s back catalogue sitting on my shelf to be built. And in so many of your great build logs Mike, you suggest replacing the struts - but I haven’t a clue how I’ll do it without one of the Cutter and Strutter tools you have.

Maybe it’s time we all start petitioning you to go into business selling replacement brass struts!

Or I could just buy a vise and give it a go myself, I suppose!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on March 21, 2022, 09:03:55 AM
Hi all,
A while back I emailed 'Albion Alloy's' to ask if their 'Strutter' tool would be made available again.
I was told yes but as yet nothing and their tools site is down.
However, there is a 3D printed alternative made by Bob Monroe at 'Shapeways.
Used in a normal vice.
I've not used them so can't vouch for how good they are.
But the price (less shipping) is reasonable.

Mike

https://www.shapeways.com/product/N6N2WG6JA/1-32-fokker-d-vii-quot-strut-smasher-quot-tool?li=user-profile&optionId=59004921 (https://www.shapeways.com/product/N6N2WG6JA/1-32-fokker-d-vii-quot-strut-smasher-quot-tool?li=user-profile&optionId=59004921)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Europapete on March 29, 2022, 01:48:10 AM
oops, redundant post
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on March 31, 2022, 06:00:49 AM
Hi all,
It's been a few weeks since my last post.
Real life sometimes takes up time.
Anyway, here's a list of the basic work.

''Gaspatch' replacement weapons.
Kit gun support bar replaced with brass tubing.
'DR.1 'PART' photo-etch, some cockpit detail added.
''Aviattic' replacement resin seat.
''Aviattic' faded four colour lozenge.
 'Airscale' instrument decals.
Mono-filament and tubing fitted for rudder, elevator and aileron control cables.
Tubing added from throttle quadrant.
Gun synchronization cables added.
Engine bulkhead rear edge filled to allow for the 'Aviattic' engine cowl retaining band.
Added the wind baffle above the seat frame.

Still a way to go before the fuselage build is done, including fitting the weapons,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/gunsdone.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/seat5.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/pit1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/pit2.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/cover1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/cover2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Alexis on March 31, 2022, 09:34:06 AM
Shaping up nicely Mike


Alexis
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: rhwinter on March 31, 2022, 05:18:00 PM
Simply WOW! Such beautiful work!!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Dirigible-Al on March 31, 2022, 06:04:27 PM
I agree, great work on the guns and the interior.
Alan.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: DaveB on March 31, 2022, 08:15:31 PM
Wow - masterful work thus far

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: PrzemoL on March 31, 2022, 08:19:48 PM
Your usual elegant, neat and clean work. I am watching with pleasure and interest.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 01, 2022, 01:08:03 AM
Your DVI is really looking great Mike !
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 01, 2022, 06:05:22 AM
Hi all,
Apart from the cockpit surround padding, windscreen, Fokker type panel fasteners and weathering, the forward fuselage is done.

Both machine guns with feed and ejection chutes.
Photo-etch ammunition belts.
Photo-etch blast plates.
Expended rounds counter decal.
Panel between gun breech blocks (omitted from kit),

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/deckdone1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/deckdone2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: KiwiZac on April 01, 2022, 06:44:42 AM
Congratulations Mike, the whole area looks superb. Great work!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: ondra on April 01, 2022, 06:10:48 PM
Brilliant work so far, Mike, I will be following with great interest!

Cheers

Ondra
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 01, 2022, 11:42:33 PM
The additions and upgrades look great Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 02, 2022, 08:06:53 AM
Hi all,
All of the parts have now been primed with white, polished then gloss clear coated.
White because the 'Aviattic' lozenge decals are 'clear' backed, meaning the base colour will show through to give the linen effect.

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/prime1.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 02, 2022, 11:54:10 AM
excellent progress Mike. Looking forward to seeing this one covered in Lozenge!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Rookie on April 02, 2022, 07:44:23 PM
Looking nice and clean as ever Mike. Great progress and beautifully detailed!

Willem
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 05, 2022, 06:58:03 AM
Hi all,
Just a quick update.
I'm working through applying the lozenge decals to the model.
Upper surfaces are the 'Aviattic' 4 colour faded (ATT32008) and undersides (ATT32010).
The border and rib tapes are cut from ATT32069 for upper surfaces and ATT32071 for the undersides.
The main lozenge decals were cut out and applied over a white gloss base coat to allow the linen effect to show through.
The border and rib tape decals are white backed and applied onto the main decals.
Fokker ignored the specifications of the ‘Idflieg’.
Instead using their standard method of covering the wings, with the lozenge pattern applied horizontally across the top and underside of the wings and the fuselage, with wing border and wing rib tapes of the same pattern.
For the ailerons, the elevator, tail plane and the fuselage sides, the lozenge pattern was applied vertically (front to rear and top to bottom).
Each wing rib was taped but border tape was only applied to the trailing edges of the lower wing and upper wing, across the centre section between the inboard aileron edges.

I still have the border tapes and underside rib tapes to apply,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/fusdec1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/fusdec2.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/decs1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/decs2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Beto on April 05, 2022, 07:28:54 AM
The lozenge looks great, Mike! - But... are you sure about the lozenge covered undercarriage wing? As fas as I know it was painted green on the Fokker Dr.I, D.VII and E.V, so probably the same applies to the D.VI
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Alexis on April 05, 2022, 07:50:29 AM
Nice work on the decaling Mike


Alexis
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 05, 2022, 08:44:55 AM
The lozenge looks great, Mike! - But... are you sure about the lozenge covered undercarriage wing? As fas as I know it was painted green on the Fokker Dr.I, D.VII and E.V, so probably the same applies to the D.VI

Hi Beto,
Yes you could be right.
A few photographs in the Windsock Data file show what could have been Lozenge on the upper surface of the axle fairing.
That said, it also states that the Fokker two-tone green streaked finish, as well as green and brown were used.
What does seem to be standard was that the underside of the axle fairing was most likely a light blue on most, if not all D.VI aircraft.

Anyway, to be safe I've removed the lozenge,

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 05, 2022, 10:22:32 AM
The lozenge on the fuselage and wings looks excellent Mike. From what I have seen and read I think it was a good decision on removing the lozenge from the axle wing. OTOH this is WW1 and who knows  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: KiwiZac on April 06, 2022, 03:44:59 AM
Lovely work Mike, it looks like someone took photos from the factory!

I must say that the linen effect is too stark for my tastes, but seeing this build suddenly lozenged-up made my morning!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 06, 2022, 05:21:11 AM
Hi all,
Rib and border tapes done.
I'll possibly mist a slight faded brown over these decals, as they faded that way.
Then it's onto the kit markings,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/fusdec3.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/fusdec4.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/decs3.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/decs4.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 06, 2022, 05:29:30 AM
Nice work on the tapes Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Bughunter on April 06, 2022, 05:54:27 AM
That is a reference build again. Not only quality but also an impressive speed.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: KiwiZac on April 07, 2022, 03:39:34 AM
That is a reference build again. Not only quality but also an impressive speed.

Cheers,
Frank
I 100% echo everything Frank said. Taking notes and admiring!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 07, 2022, 06:45:01 AM
Hi all,
The basic kit decals have been applied.
Typical 'Roden' decals - easily cracked and chipped and reluctant to conform over curves!!

Next up is weathering,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/kitdecs1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/kitdecs2.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/kitdecs3.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 07, 2022, 08:38:06 AM
The decals look great in spite of any issues you had!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Alexis on April 07, 2022, 09:43:48 AM
Dispite the issues , looks fab Mike !


Alexis
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: KiwiZac on April 08, 2022, 03:21:44 AM
Hear hear! No sign of your troubles on my ends, just a D.VI that looks ready to come together for flight!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Umlaufmotor on April 08, 2022, 03:25:45 AM
Really a beautiful job on the D.VI , Mike.
One small thing, check the elevator fin.
I think you used the Fokker F.I leading edge curved fin?

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 08, 2022, 07:59:00 AM
Really a beautiful job on the D.VI , Mike.
One small thing, check the elevator fin.
I think you used the Fokker F.I leading edge curved fin?

Servus
Bertl

Hi Bertl,
Thanks for your comment.
Are you referring to the trailing edge tips on the elevator?
The kit parts are molded with a slight curve.
If so I can easily change that,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/elevedge.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 08, 2022, 09:52:24 AM
Really a beautiful job on the D.VI , Mike.
One small thing, check the elevator fin.
I think you used the Fokker F.I leading edge curved fin?

Servus
Bertl

Hi Bertl,
Thanks for your comment.
Are you referring to the trailing edge tips on the elevator?
The kit parts are molded with a slight curve.
If so I can easily change that,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/elevedge.jpg)

I am not Bertl of course but I think he was referring to the leading edges of the stabilizer. They "Appear" to have the curve of the F1 Triplane. I never noticed that Roden had supplied the curved part IF that is the case.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 08, 2022, 06:17:13 PM
Hi Bertl and Rich,
Wow - and I thought I had an eye for detail.
Yes you are both correct.
The kit supplies two tail planes and yes - I fitted the wrong version with a slight curve to the leading edge  ::)
Well done guys as obviously I hadn't realized.

It's only a slight curve so I should be able to sand it out.
If necessary I'll have to replace the decals.

Thanks for spotting that guys,

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: PrzemoL on April 08, 2022, 06:40:53 PM
Your Fokker in its colours looks great. Very fine work wih decals.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 10, 2022, 05:27:50 AM
Hi all,
The decals and weathering are completed.
I've re-profiled the leading edges of the tail plane, straight not curved.
Also added carburetor air intake from 1.6 mm diameter tube.
Under fuselage photo-etch panels added from the 'Aviattic' DR.1 set.
I've brown tinted the lozenge decals using 'Ammo' Ochre filter, applied by brush.
Overall dirt weathering was done using 'Flory Models' dark dirt clay wash.

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/weather1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/weather2.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/weather3.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/weather4.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/weather5.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: KiwiZac on April 10, 2022, 05:40:26 AM
Great save on the horizontal stabiliser (bravo Bertl, I totally missed that!) and the weathering is superb! Beautiful work Mike!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 10, 2022, 07:57:24 AM
Excellent work on fixing the Tail Plane Mike! One would never know you had to do a correction! Nice effects with the oils and wash.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 10, 2022, 11:32:54 PM
Hi all,
Propeller completed.
Usually I would fit a replacement propeller from Alexy at 'Proper Plane'.
However, given the present circumstances, I've used one of the kit supplied propellers.
Although many Fokker aircraft were fitted with 'Axial' propellers, the photograph of this particular aircraft shows a different propeller design.
From it's shape I'm guessing it could have been a propeller from 'Heine', so that's what I've modeled.
Grey primed then airbrushed with 'Tamiya' Dark Yellow (XF60).
Brushed over with 'DecoArt' Burnt Umber crafter's acrylic paint.
Airbrushed with 'Alclad' Aqua Gloss 600 then decals applied (LF Models).
Hub brushed with 'Mr. Colour' Dark Iron (214) then buffed.
Finally airbrushed with 'Alclad' Light Sheen (ALC311) mixed with 'Tamiya' Clear Orange (X26).

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/propdone.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 11, 2022, 12:07:23 AM
Excellent Prop Mike.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 11, 2022, 04:51:11 AM
Hi all,
Landing gear fairing assembly complete.
The fairing underside decal is 'Aviattic' white-backed German Blue (ATT32077).
Wheel cover decals are from the ‘Aviattic’ Fokker streaked set (ATT32062).
I've represented the metal foot boards on the lower wing roots, by cutting the from the ‘RB Productions’ radiator mesh (RB-T027) photo-etch.
'Flory Models' Dark Earth pigment powder was applied over the foot boards,

Mike
 
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/axle1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/axle2.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/footboards.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: KiwiZac on April 11, 2022, 04:58:37 AM
The photo of your completed prop could easily be confused for a 1/1 example. Stunning work, Mike!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Bughunter on April 11, 2022, 05:54:23 AM
However, given the present circumstances, I've used one of the kit supplied propellers.
Have you ever tried to do your own wooden propeller? Please try it, that is not black magic!
As clean as you always work and able to file metal things into shape I'm sure this is an easy thing for you :D

No question, your painted prop looks good, more a general recommendation.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: gedmundson on April 11, 2022, 08:15:59 AM
This build is exceptionally well done in so many aspects. Incredible job so far Mike - very impressive indeed.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 11, 2022, 08:18:21 AM
However, given the present circumstances, I've used one of the kit supplied propellers.
Have you ever tried to do your own wooden propeller? Please try it, that is not black magic!
As clean as you always work and able to file metal things into shape I'm sure this is an easy thing for you :D

No question, your painted prop looks good, more a general recommendation.

Cheers,
Frank

Hi Frank,
I actually bought a stack of various veneer's some time ago.
My intention was to have a go at making a laminated propeller.
Maybe I will try it - who knows,

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 11, 2022, 08:41:15 AM
Excellent progress Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Dirigible-Al on April 12, 2022, 12:03:02 AM
This thread is s joy to follow.
Alan
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Alexis on April 12, 2022, 02:24:49 AM
Love the overall weathering Ken



Alexis
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Rookie on April 12, 2022, 03:25:08 AM
This is another magnificent build Mike, on all fronts.

The weathering looks very realistic and as Zac said, the prop could easily be mistaken for a real one. I also want to have a go at making the props from laminated veneer, 2 four-bladers and 2 two-bladers.

Should be fun to do.

Willem
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 15, 2022, 07:16:23 AM
Hi all,
A few updates on the build.
The upper wing is fitted and, as expected when using the kit supplied struts, there were problems.
On test fitting the upper wing onto the interplane and cabane struts, I found the cabane struts did not reach outboard enough to contact their attachment lugs on the underside of the wing.
This necessitated drilling out the interplane locating holes in the upper wing enough to allow the struts to insert deeper into the wing.
This reduced the distance between the wings enough for the cabane struts to fit correctly.
I've also fitted and braced the landing gear.
Also fitted are the twin aileron control wires from the cockpit to the underside of the upper wing.

NOTE: The struts look squared in the photographs, but they are in fact aero shaped.

Now it's onto the completing the tail unit,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/ailcont1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/geardone.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/strut2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: KiwiZac on April 15, 2022, 09:38:58 AM
Excellent work, Mike, and congrats on taming the cabanes! The linen effect decals look like a painting in a gallery in these closeups.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 16, 2022, 02:07:14 AM
Excellent work/fix on the struts Mike! The rigging looks terrific.
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 16, 2022, 06:28:04 AM
Hi all,
The aircraft model is complete.
I've rigged the ailerons, rudder and elevator.
Also added the external Anemometer and a windscreen.
Just the figure to paint now.
I'll post up completed model shots once it's in the display case.

Than for your comments - appreciated,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/done3.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: KiwiZac on April 16, 2022, 06:40:31 AM
I'm very excited to see the gallery, Mike, she looks superb!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: WD on April 16, 2022, 10:27:30 AM
Beautiful work Mike.

WD
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 16, 2022, 12:19:59 PM
Another Great Build and Build Tutorial Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Rookie on April 16, 2022, 02:30:52 PM
Wonderful work again Mike.

Thanks for sharing your research and craftmanship. Your to tutorials are a big help to anyone contemplating to make one of the models you did. I already have my eyes on a couple.

I wonder what the next kit is that will find a way to your workbench....

Willem
 
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Alexis on April 16, 2022, 08:48:41 PM
 :) :) :)


Alexis , sorry that's all I got
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Dirigible-Al on April 17, 2022, 03:18:32 AM
'Proper Job' Mike as they say where I live. Other than that everyone has pretty much said my words for me. Looking forward to seeing it in the completed model section.
Alan.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Russell Niles on April 17, 2022, 06:26:18 AM
Very nice build Mike. Always a pleasure to read your modeling thoughts and ideas on your current builds.
Thank you for sharing with us mere mortals :)

Russ
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: KiwiZac on April 17, 2022, 08:10:01 AM
I wonder what the next kit is that will find a way to your workbench....
An awesome one! (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=13001)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Rookie on April 17, 2022, 02:15:59 PM
Ah, I found it  :)

The Lukgraph' RAF BE2c

Front & center, yes!!!

Willem
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 18, 2022, 06:48:14 AM
Hi all,
One last shot.
The pilot figure, which is the 'Elan13' German pilot WW1 (EL25).
Painted with 'AK Interactive' and 'Tamiya' acrylics.
Flesh painted with 'Citadel' paints.

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-D.VI/pilot1.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: RAGIII on April 18, 2022, 08:52:17 AM
Excellent figure Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Brad Cancian on April 19, 2022, 09:37:52 AM
Amazing work Mike, simply jaw dropping!

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: iamjohnsname on April 24, 2022, 07:01:10 PM
Typical 'Roden' decals - easily cracked and chipped and reluctant to conform over curves!!

This is one of the reasons I tend to always mask and paint crosses and roundels; plus I enjoy painting and hate using decals. But I've never painted over Aviattic decals - do you have an opinion about whether doing so in instances like this would be ok?
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 24, 2022, 08:13:52 PM
Typical 'Roden' decals - easily cracked and chipped and reluctant to conform over curves!!

This is one of the reasons I tend to always mask and paint crosses and roundels; plus I enjoy painting and hate using decals. But I've never painted over Aviattic decals - do you have an opinion about whether doing so in instances like this would be ok?

Applying masks then painting is possible over 'Aviattic' decals.
I did this for the model in the link below.
The main thing is to make sure the 'Aviattic' decals are fully adhered to the model before applying masks.
I add a small amount of PVA (white glue) adhesive to the decal water when applying the decals.
This helps to stick and conform the decals to the model.
Then apply a clear sealing coat over the decals.
When applying the masks lightly press just the edges of the masks onto the decal, not the whole mask.
After painting carefully pull the mask away and at a shallow angle.
Doing this should release the mask without lifting the decal underneath.
Then you can clear coat seal the painted surfaces and apply whatever weathering you desire,

Mike

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12391.msg231645#msg231645
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Rookie on April 24, 2022, 09:05:55 PM
Thanks for the clear explanation Mike. This is something for the notebook again.

Willem
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Fokker D.VI
Post by: Mike Norris on April 26, 2022, 04:36:22 AM
Hi all,
Completed model shots now up in the Completed Models page,

Mike