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Title: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: KiwiZac on December 12, 2021, 02:15:39 PM
Posted on Facebook earlier today:
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Royal Aircraft Factory BE2c project in 1:32 scale has started.
Estimated release date of the model by the end of January next year. As always we start the engine. Many thanks to James Fahey for helping with the design of the model. We will make every effort to reproduce the model as best we can.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51740679406_8c1d052326_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mQ9vnq)LukGraph BE2 engine (https://flic.kr/p/2mQ9vnq) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr

Nice to see our own Jamo get a shout-out for assisting with this one.
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Dave W on December 12, 2021, 02:31:15 PM
I may draw flak for saying this but while the Lukgraph Be2c will be an outstanding model, its production as a resin kit may deter mainstream model companies from producing a cheaper, injected plastic kit.

Kudos to Lukgraph for selecting this much-wanted subject. It's a model I would love to have but I have zero experience in making resin kits and a kit that will cost around $A240 plus postage from Poland is not the most economical subject to learn on.

I am not against the kit- it will be outstanding but it's a top end model for those happy to pay top end prices.

After wrecking a couple of Wingnut kits I'm wary of mucking up any more expensive models.

How do others feel about 1/32 resin kits? Are they difficult to make?

How many will be ordering a Be2? I don't mean how many would like it, I'm talking cash dollars purchase.

And again, this is not against Lukgraph, I applaud their WW1 choices, but sadly their kits are out of my price range and I fear the other companies will now shy away from doing a 1/32 Be2c as well.

I really hope I'm proved wrong.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Captain Slower on December 12, 2021, 03:26:56 PM
I just received their Albatros C.III.  Overall, I am impressed with the kit.  In some ways, it appears to be simplified from WNW but I may be wrong on this.  I do like the fact that the struts have a metal rod inside as do the wings.  The one area of concern I have is the weight of the wings.  The rigging will have to be structural and I will use chameleon fishing line as it is reported not to stretch over time.

Happy to see a BE kit coming.  Ideally, it should have been done by WNW, after all, they have a couple of full-size examples.    Plus, they had the BE2c wings with the FE2 and the BE2e wings with the RE8.

However, I share your concern about the injection kit manufactures avoiding the BE2. 
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: miecio52 on December 12, 2021, 03:50:26 PM
Hello, a good modeller can handle any model. Resin models have always been and will be more expensive. So far I do not see a company that would deal so expansively on the market of aircraft models from the period of the Great War in scale 1/32. I wish this small company the best and I support them a lot because she has filled the void after WNW. Of course, this is my private opinion.  :)
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: petrov27 on December 12, 2021, 10:27:48 PM
I have built several resin kits over the years and do not mind them at all. Yes they take more effort than say WNW but the Lukgraph kit I have (not built yet) looks very straightforward. As noted they do put metal in their struts and that should help with holding things together.

As far as the BE.2C yes I will very likely pick this one up. As far as it influencing other plastic manufacturers to not produce a kit of it, well that may be so but it is incredibly hard to say. We have not exactly seen very many 2 seat WW1 subjects in 1/32 plastic from anyone other than WNW (have we seen any actually?) So I guess I would much rather see a company like Lukgraph do it (and if their other kits are indication do it very well indeed) vs. the potential that we never see it done in 1/32 at all.
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: macsporran on December 12, 2021, 10:48:38 PM
I built plenty of resin kits back in my 1/48 days and suggest nobody should be deterred by the medium itself. You just use a razor saw for cutting and CA glue but everything else is much the same.

As with plastic kits the difference is in the manufacturer: some, like JGMT, were a delight to build, some like Jaeger and TC Resins, were very short-run and required an awful lot of work to fill air holes in the resin and straighten warped wings. Yes, you use mono fishing line for rigging to keep big wings square - the  TC Short 184 and Felixstowe had bigger, heavier, wings in 1/48 than most 1/32 kits - and the landing wires have to do the same job as on the real thing.

So, if a new resin BE2 is of JGMT quality I wouldn't let the resin put me off, but if it were TC quality the price and the anticipated work would!
From all reports Lukgraph would likely be in the former category.

However, I think 1/32 is the ideal scale for single seaters and have sold off my WNW monsters as just too big for domestic display, so I wish they'd opted for any of the Scouts mentioned in our poll - Hanriot, Halb D.II, Austro-Hungarians etc.........
Sandy
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: PrzemoL on December 13, 2021, 12:48:21 AM
First let me say that I am extremely happy to see this subject announced. I have been lucky to know about this plan for some time now, but to hear that Łukasz indeed started the design is a delight!
As for the discussion on resin kits I think I have some experience including three 32nd scale Lukgraph kits built (Lublin, Baby, FF33L), Albatros C.III in my stash and Lloyd preordered. I can assure you that the quality of their products is evidently increasing. They are expensive but from what I hear from Łukasz he simply cannot produce them cheaper by the means available to him.
On the other issue - I will never say that these kits are easy for resin novices. I would rather recommend building a simpler resin kit first, a monoplane, to get some experience with resin handling before tackling a biplane. Using a quickly setting CA glue itself requires some practice and it may be discouraging and daunting if you start with a biplane model.
And finally, I do not think any potential producer of injection kits plans BE2c in 32nd scale in the nearest future. We all hoped WNW would make one since the famous Alb B.II boxart. I also know that Łukasz was analysing the situation to avoid a possible clash with a plastic model. But seeing the current reality of kits production I am extremely happy that we will get this kit from Lukgraph. And I can heartily encourage anyone who can afford such expensive kit to get this model. Łukasz is currently very much decided to produce more 32nd scale WW1 subjects but he surely needs our support!
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Europapete on December 13, 2021, 03:28:45 AM
Yes, I will buy one. The Lloyd also.  Resin kits are just the same as injection to make. Just use superglue instead of styrene cement. Especially now that 3D printing is becoming more common, the parts fit is getting so much better with each new release. Regards, Pete in RI
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: gbrivio on December 13, 2021, 03:37:51 AM
Looking at interwar and WWII market, a resin (high quality) model kit should no longer be of concern to injection plastic companies: Silver Wings has been producing several 1/32 resin kits (including FIAT CR42 and D.H.82) released in plastic by ICM not much later. So maybe both Luckgraph and any hypotetic producer of a plastic RAF Be2 should not be conflicting. Hopefully...
Ciaio
Giuseppe
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: fruibal on December 13, 2021, 07:37:05 AM
The owner of Lukegraph responded to me on FB that their kits are not cheap, and their material and production costs are highly elevated. Lukegraph might be leading with novelty releases in short periods of time. Albeit, its target market is directed towards elite customers and mass production at affordable prices is not in their line of company strategic plan. On the contrary, I hope other producers can learn from this golden opportunity to attract the other market that is more budgeted constrain, with cheaper alternatives. and not shy away from producing the same subject
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: KiwiZac on December 13, 2021, 01:46:53 PM
How many will be ordering a Be2? I don't mean how many would like it, I'm talking cash dollars purchase.
Even if I could afford it I think I would find purchasing this kit in particular very difficult to justify to myself. Do I want one? Yes. But given the price it's just not on my radar other than as a fan of BEs. I have experience with resin so that doesn't put me off and the detail on previous LukGraph kits is exquisite but it's just too much money for me for an aeroplane that size and airframe simplicity (I've seen most of TVAL's repros and the original enough times in person to have a feel for what a kit would include). Lukas has recently produced the De Havilland DH.90 Dragonfly in 1/48 but that too is far out of my price range and more of a "would love to have" rather than "need to have".

To be honest I was more disappointed than excited by this announcement purely because I have a feeling I won't be able to buy one.
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Pup7309 on December 13, 2021, 11:19:40 PM
Hi
I won’t get a Be2 but some of the other 2 seaters are tempting- except for the price. That said you’ll pay the same or more for a WNW kit these days. But great news if you want a Be and get it.  :)  Important Kite needed to be made!
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: petrov27 on December 14, 2021, 01:07:09 AM
Unfortunately the price of everything is up these days - shoot weren't the WNW two seaters up to $120 ish before they ceased operations and thats been a year and a half ago right?
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Europapete on December 14, 2021, 06:08:27 AM
I think that if Lukgraph send the Forum a review sample kit, it should go to KiwiZac.
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: RAGIII on December 14, 2021, 06:43:38 AM
I have hesitated to comment but I finally decided to do so  8)
First and foremost I am Happy to see that someone finally decided to do this aircraft in 1/32nd. Going by previoous releases it will surely build into a beautiful Model of an Important WW1 aircraft!

As for addressing Daves' comments:
1. I can Only Hope that a Limited Run kit in resin will not discourage Injection molding  companies from seeing the "Value" of producing a BE series!
2. I certainly understand that the Price is set at making a profit from a very limited run.
3. I stated on Mikes post about one of the Lukgraph releases that although interested in some of their kits they were out of My price range due to My retirement. I could say as Much for Many Aircraft Models I would love to purchase.  8)  That is not the fault of the Manufacturer!
4. I think Przemolaw has been perhaps the "Most" Honest in his statements about resin kits, their challenges,  and price. I am Awful at using super glue and when I can I replace Metal struts and parts with plastic to avoid MY disability  :o
5. All things being Equal If this were a BE12 I would Probably give up Beer for a Month and get one  ;D
JMHO,
RAGIII
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: hrcoleman66 on December 14, 2021, 01:20:23 PM
I might have to set aside some funds!

A 1/32 BE2c has been on my wish list...  well, forever!

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: PrzemoL on December 16, 2021, 08:49:09 AM
Łukasz has just shown me this little teaser photo...

(https://i.ibb.co/DRT31qd/received-441443360933815.webp)
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Dave W on December 16, 2021, 12:09:43 PM
We have now exchanged emails with Lukasz who is aware of the Forum and following us with interest.

I have assured him we are happy to use the Forum to promote his Lukgraph products.

We wish him the very best for all his models and his forthcoming Be2c is an assured best seller.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: pepperman42 on December 19, 2021, 05:42:31 AM
I'm sure the kit will, in relative terms, be worth the money. I like the idea of reinforced struts (anyone thinking after market reinforced struts for all the WNW, Roden Meng, CS etc would be viable?)  and the building process is close enough to injection plastic once everything is removed and cleaned up. What I do see is a relatively short life span as far as availability is concerned, ie Sopwith Baby is gone, so injection manufacturers  may want to wait but not forget the Be.2C.

Steve
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Pup7309 on December 19, 2021, 06:12:32 PM
I believe CSM is doing the Sopwith Baby. Not sure who would take on these 2 seaters as injection moulds but I’d support anyone willing.
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: KiwiZac on January 11, 2022, 04:55:46 AM
On January 6 LukGraph provided an update on the BE.2c project on Facebook, thanks to Mike "Sandbagger" Norris for bringing it to our attention!
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The project of the RAF BE2c model in 1:32 scale is entering its final phase. A few elements from the set on the render. The project should be completed in mid-January. Final renders coming soon.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51813135594_4037e25a90_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mWxS53)LukGraph 1-32 BE2c 060121 (https://flic.kr/p/2mWxS53) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr

Iasked if Lukasz had the BE.2f in his future:
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I have not checked if there are differences between C and F- if the model "F" can be based on "C", it is quite possible. Thank you
I explained the basic differences I'm aware of and shared a few photos I've taken of A1325, and will give him a link to Jamo's photos of the same airframe. Fingers crossed as that would be the one I'd love to build!
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: hrcoleman66 on January 11, 2022, 11:01:07 AM
I have to say, Personally, I'm struggling to see why anyone (aside from financial considerations) would NOT invest in this kit.

I know I will!

Cheers,

Hugh

Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: RLWP on January 11, 2022, 08:01:24 PM
I have to say, Personally, I'm struggling to see why anyone (aside from financial considerations) would NOT invest in this kit.

I know I will!

Cheers,

Hugh

Well, for me, it's likely to be a tricky kit to rig so I want to be sure I won't have trouble with resin struts - so I'd be likely to replace them with scratch built ones in brass. That commits me to work I wouldn't expect in an IM kit

Which makes an expensive kit in an unfamiliar material rather a non-starter for me.

Richard

My view is heavily coloured by building a Battleaxe Fokker D.VII ages ago
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Mike Norris on January 11, 2022, 08:44:32 PM
Hi Richard,
'LukGraph' kits have metal reinforcing rods in all struts and any other parts that require support.
So worries about the strength of the parts shouldn't be of concern,

Mike
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: KiwiZac on January 12, 2022, 05:25:34 AM
I shared a link to Jamo's walkaround of A1325, completely forgetting that his work was a big part in the development of the BE.2c kit! Hopefully that happens in the future as, given the choice, I would prefer an "f". But that doesn't lessen my excitement to follow the development of the "c" and see members here build it.

My view is heavily coloured by building a Battleaxe Fokker D.VII ages ago
Richard, I can't speak from experience but based on what I've seen Battleaxe and LukGraph are leagues apart in terms of quality and ease of build!
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: RLWP on January 12, 2022, 05:32:04 AM

My view is heavily coloured by building a Battleaxe Fokker D.VII ages ago
Richard, I can't speak from experience but based on what I've seen Battleaxe and LukGraph are leagues apart in terms of quality and ease of build!

I'm sure they are - the scars run deep though...

Richard
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: hrcoleman66 on January 18, 2022, 08:57:42 AM
Full Renders of the completed model are now on Lukgraphs Facebook page!

Looks Awesome!

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: fruibal on January 18, 2022, 10:37:17 AM
I sense with the fast turnaround of the new releases of  1/32 WWI airplanes, Lukgraph is taking the leading post and the other competing companies are just missing the train. I just over one-year Lukgraph released 3 or 4 plus kits, which is a milestone for a resin small company. Unfortunately, they are not affordable and produced at a premium price for the elite modeling market. I really hope that  is not a deterrent to these competing companies in producing the same kit ( injected plastic)  but a cheaper price and  outstanding quality
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Dave W on January 18, 2022, 12:56:04 PM
Lukgraph have released final renders of their forthcoming 1/32 Be2c. It looks to re-define large scale modelling!

(https://i.postimg.cc/YCmbjmPr/271997844-4792875634129096-889976682285973205-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/25RTWSp4/272010878-4792875700795756-233108268710943608-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/GpFKxnr6/271952137-4792875744129085-5403027817924536284-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d1JBWNV3/271993664-4792875790795747-895529837451945866-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/rmg97GDJ/271994818-4792875604129099-6514834363208969145-n.jpg)

Release details soon.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Borsos on January 18, 2022, 09:07:17 PM
I need a preorder-button… and a handkerchief (slobber…sorry for that)
Andreas
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: PrzemoL on January 18, 2022, 10:09:14 PM
Me, I am also looking forward to see the Preorder-button.

I sense with the fast turnaround of the new releases of  1/32 WWI airplanes, Lukgraph is taking the leading post and the other competing companies are just missing the train. I just over one-year Lukgraph released 3 or 4 plus kits, which is a milestone for a resin small company. Unfortunately, they are not affordable and produced at a premium price for the elite modeling market. I really hope that  is not a deterrent to these competing companies in producing the same kit ( injected plastic)  but a cheaper price and  outstanding quality

IMHO the release of BE.2c and earlier FF.33L, Albatros C.III and Lloyd C.V, all being two-seaters, does not get into any other company way. Since the demise of WNW, how many  injection kits of a WW1 two-seaters were released? Who among the companies gave any hint about such plans? OK, right, we have a lovely Caudron C.III from CSM, but I know this one has been in pipe for many years. OK, Roden announces Avro 504K and Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter. But that is all! And nothing more can be viewed in the nearest future, I deem.
It seems that only Lukgraph is brave enough to fill a gap (in a certain extent) that we have in the market after WNW ceased pleasing us with two-seater kits.
 
So first I think we should be grateful that the two-seater models are coming from the Cracow-based resin small company. And secondly I think that these releases are by no means a discouragement to any model company. I daresay it can be quite contrary - seeing this the others might just get encouraged to add a two-seater from time to time to their production plans which mainly contain smaller, cheaper to produce and possibly easier to sell single-seaters.
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: rhwinter on January 18, 2022, 10:22:17 PM
Oh, yes, I am also getting tempted!But as I have never worked with resin before: Are there any build-logs around, preferably of someone building a Lukgraph kit? Most interesting to me is the Nieuport 29…
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: PrzemoL on January 18, 2022, 10:29:11 PM
Here you are rhwinter  ;)

FF.33L:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12194.0

Lublin R.XIII
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10318.0
continued here:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11083.0

Sopwith Baby
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10753.0

As I pointed out elsewhere, the newer kit the better quality. Some problems I had with resin quality on Lublin and Baby will certainly not be the case of this year releases.
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: rhwinter on January 19, 2022, 01:02:25 AM
Thank you, Przemol!

Richard
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: KiwiZac on January 19, 2022, 04:02:49 AM
It looks beautiful! Lukasz continues to amaze me with his talent.

A reminder that on Facebook I suggested a BE.2f to follow - if you're keen on that (or, like a certain other member, a BE.12) and use Facebook then I suggest you head along to the post (https://www.facebook.com/LukGraph/posts/4792882484128411) and mention as much. It can't hurt to ask!
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: RAGIII on January 19, 2022, 04:27:59 AM
 
It looks beautiful! Lukasz continues to amaze me with his talent.

A reminder that on Facebook I suggested a BE.2f to follow - if you're keen on that (or, like a certain other member, a BE.12) and use Facebook then I suggest you head along to the post (https://www.facebook.com/LukGraph/posts/4792882484128411) and mention as much. It can't hurt to ask!

 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: James Reagan on January 19, 2022, 07:57:33 AM
Check Silver Wings for their Nieuport 29 kit.  There is so little being offered in 1/32 WW1 models I would save for a resin  Hanriot,and Starstrutter. I hope to get the BE2c.  Naturally I'll get the new Roden late Spad.  I will not pay scalper prices for Wing Nuts kits but probably trade one I have for another I want.

My only concern about some resin kits is possible wing fade (warping) over time
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: KiwiZac on January 20, 2022, 01:21:35 AM
James, that's a good point. I suppose LukGraph has been around for such a short time that such issues wouldn't have made themselves evident yet?

I suggested a BE.2f to follow - if you're keen on that (or, like a certain other member, a BE.12)
8)
RAGIII
I wasn't going to name names!  ;)
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: hrcoleman66 on January 28, 2022, 07:25:56 AM
Test shot images now on Face Book.

(https://scontent.fsin8-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272631521_4837265239690135_771360106588427210_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=VpGi87HtXm4AX-fQKKF&_nc_ht=scontent.fsin8-1.fna&oh=00_AT9lKfX0XvPDctipdED3cxm08u1aCfXysSvAcZdhntcKPw&oe=61F85487)

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: KiwiZac on January 29, 2022, 04:04:08 AM
That looks stunning!
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: acewwi on February 22, 2022, 05:51:13 AM
From today LukGraph accept pre-orders

https://lukgraph.pl/en_GB/p/RAF-BE2c-132-scale-/202

Spyros
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: RAGIII on February 22, 2022, 06:33:04 AM
That kit is looking gorgeous! Just Not in My Budget  :'(
RAGIII
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Mike Norris on February 22, 2022, 08:42:01 PM
Pre-ordered mine,

Mike
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: PrzemoL on February 22, 2022, 08:56:03 PM
Obligatory, pre-ordered, too.
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: KiwiZac on February 23, 2022, 02:16:34 AM
Good, good...order lots of BE.2cs so the BE.2f will follow  ;D
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Rookie on February 23, 2022, 09:12:12 AM
That kit is looking gorgeous! Just Not in My Budget  :'(
RAGIII

Testshots look great, but alas, it's too expensive for me too... :-\

Willem
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: RAGIII on February 23, 2022, 09:49:51 AM
That kit is looking gorgeous! Just Not in My Budget  :'(
RAGIII

Testshots look great, but alas, it's too expensive for me too... :-\

Willem

Just to be fair, it is probably Very Reasonable for a LImited run resin kit this large and so well detailed  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Rookie on February 23, 2022, 02:57:03 PM
Yes, you are right Rick, development cost must be high for this kit.

And besides, I just bought the CSM Caudron G.III, so I'm not complaining. That is also a beautiful kit of a rarely modeled aircraft.

Willem
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Dave W on February 23, 2022, 05:44:31 PM
Looking at images of the Lukgraph Be2c it looks awesome and well worth the praise it is receiving.

However my fear is I have never tackled a 1/32 resin kit and at around $A240 I don't have enough confidence in my resin skills to risk such a large investment. I suspect  a few others might feel this way.

What we need is someone to do a build log in very simple steps to show us how to make this 1/32 resin kit and by doing so, encourage us to buy the Lukgraph kits which look to be outstanding.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: PrzemoL on February 23, 2022, 06:45:56 PM
Looking at images of the Lukgraph Be2c it looks awesome and well worth the praise it is receiving.

However my fear is I have never tackled a 1/32 resin kit and at around $A240 I don't have enough confidence in my resin skills to risk such a large investment. I suspect  a few others might feel this way.

What we need is someone to do a build log in very simple steps to show us how to make this 1/32 resin kit and by doing so, encourage us to buy the Lukgraph kits which look to be outstanding.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia

I will certainly buy, build and show the progress on this kit. However it may take some time before this one gets to my bench. Yet, in the meantime, I have already presented here my build logs of a couple of resin kits including: Lublin R.XIII, Sopwith Baby and FF33L from Lukgraph. If these are not detailed enough, please let me know, I will gladly add more comments or answer any questions. Also, as my small Fokker D.VII build is coming to an end, I would like to declare, that my next build will be Lukgraph Lloyd and I will gladly show my progress on it, too.

All in all, resin kits are different and more difficult to build than plastic ones, but there is nothing to be scared of.
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: hrcoleman66 on February 23, 2022, 07:08:44 PM
Looking at images of the Lukgraph Be2c it looks awesome and well worth the praise it is receiving.

However my fear is I have never tackled a 1/32 resin kit and at around $A240 I don't have enough confidence in my resin skills to risk such a large investment. I suspect  a few others might feel this way.

What we need is someone to do a build log in very simple steps to show us how to make this 1/32 resin kit and by doing so, encourage us to buy the Lukgraph kits which look to be outstanding.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia

The Hawker Nimrod in 1/48 and 1/32 looks lovely too!

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: hrcoleman66 on February 23, 2022, 07:11:37 PM
I can't help but wonder how  the hell they managed to 3d Print the engine in one piece!

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: PrzemoL on February 23, 2022, 07:48:42 PM
I can't help but wonder how  the hell they managed to 3d Print the engine in one piece!

Cheers,

Hugh


With lots of supporting trees :) Like on this Austro-Daimler for Lloyd. Łukasz is 3D graphics magician :)

(https://i.ibb.co/vPkB6Bm/20211228-234714.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/h218XDT/20211228-234728.jpg)
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Dave W on February 23, 2022, 07:54:39 PM
Hi PrzemoL

Your Lukgraph resin builds are excellent and many thanks for posting them. They are very helpful.

I was not clear with my post- I am hoping someone will do a build log of the Lukgraph Be2c specifically, as a guide to others who are nervous at tackling such an amazing model, but have no experience in resin.

We wish Lukgraph the best for their kits as they certainly are top quality.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: PrzemoL on February 23, 2022, 08:00:16 PM
Hi PrzemoL

Your Lukgraph resin builds are excellent and many thanks for posting them. They are very helpful.

I was not clear with my post- I am hoping someone will do a build log of the Lukgraph Be2c specifically, as a guide to others who are nervous at tackling such an amazing model, but have no experience in resin.

We wish Lukgraph the best for their kits as they certainly are top quality.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia

Dave, probable I was not clear in my writing. I just assumed that the resin kits and the way to build them is similar, be it FF33L or BE2c. So IMHO, if one wants to see how to tackle BE2c, I deem looking through the other builds might be very helpful and (maybe) enough.
Unfortunately BE2c will not come to my bench immediately, so I will not be able to show my build log right away.
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Pup7309 on February 23, 2022, 10:06:37 PM
Hi
Can anyone recommend buying a Lukgraph kit locally in Australia or overseas? Thanks:)
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Dave W on February 24, 2022, 08:17:01 AM
Hi Pup 7309

I believe you can order Lukgraph kits through Creative Models Australia but for direct sales you can buy direct from Lukgraph at:

https://lukgraph.pl/

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Mike Norris on March 19, 2022, 08:26:18 AM
Hi all,
Notified today that mine has been dispatched.
Also, they plan to release the E and F version in the near future,

Mike
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: KiwiZac on March 20, 2022, 06:34:20 AM
Also, they plan to release the E and F version in the near future
This sums up my feelings very nicely. (https://youtu.be/8iwBM_YB1sE)
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Mike Norris on March 30, 2022, 05:07:59 AM
Hi all,
Mine arrived in the UK this morning.
As expected another great kit,
With the impending release of the BE.2e and f as well as the Hansa-Brandenburg NW float plane, they are releasing kits quicker than we can build them.
A nice problem to have though.
The HB NW float plane will have a wingspan of 21" (533 mm),

Mike
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: KiwiZac on April 01, 2022, 06:15:22 AM
Congrats Mike, I'm very excited to see you tackle this! May I humbly cast a vote for a subject not just already in the box but one seen by some forumites (https://jamesfahey.smugmug.com/BE2c-reproduction) in person? (my photos below)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51193118124_5187544d63_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZL7tE)fe8f5f4b-f50b-4cdf-8556-5f4a633d46a6_zpsyrxgfsfk_35641118916_o (https://flic.kr/p/2kZL7tE) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51041241516_cf7831454b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kLkGRs)fb22a5b6-889c-4da9-a785-d1fe578e7885_zpsesig1gm1_35680421265_o (https://flic.kr/p/2kLkGRs) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51192346011_146d8b3235_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZG9Xn)9894f7bb-25e0-4c7b-8487-156f605a6371_zpsjv33jnoj_35641156576_o (https://flic.kr/p/2kZG9Xn) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51192561203_bab5b9c573_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZHfVz)8ec86abc-29ce-4906-9c21-a8c3e639582d_zpsdsgmt7dr_34839634584_o (https://flic.kr/p/2kZHfVz) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr

Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: PrzemoL on April 01, 2022, 06:25:15 AM
Zac, I am planning to build 2612 BE.2c out of my kit. But it will be only at the end of this year.
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Rookie on April 01, 2022, 07:46:10 AM
Great pics (again) Zac, especially the 3rd one with the translucent wing, with the roundel showing through!

Willem
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: KiwiZac on April 01, 2022, 09:46:44 AM
Zac, I am planning to build 2612 BE.2c out of my kit. But it will be only at the end of this year.
I await this build patiently!

Great pics (again) Zac, especially the 3rd one with the translucent wing, with the roundel showing through!
Thanks Willem! I saw it and immediately thought "this will be a good reference for someone!".
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Mike Norris on April 13, 2022, 05:50:51 AM
Looking at images of the Lukgraph Be2c it looks awesome and well worth the praise it is receiving.

However my fear is I have never tackled a 1/32 resin kit and at around $A240 I don't have enough confidence in my resin skills to risk such a large investment. I suspect  a few others might feel this way.

What we need is someone to do a build log in very simple steps to show us how to make this 1/32 resin kit and by doing so, encourage us to buy the Lukgraph kits which look to be outstanding.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia

Hi Dave,
'Przemol' is planning later this year to build BE2c Serial 2612.
I'll be finishing my Fokker D.VI soon.
I'll have a crack at my BE2c next,

Mike
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: MoFo on April 13, 2022, 07:53:44 AM
Ooh!  1/32 Sea Scout conversion, maybe?  :D
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Mike Norris on April 13, 2022, 07:45:24 PM
Hi MoFo,
There was one BE2c, serial number 4721, that was converted to a float plane and delivered in November 1916 to the School of Aerial Gunnery at Loch Doon. The main and tail floats were made by S.E. Saunders Ltd. The main floats were fitted to what seemed to be a modified BE2c skid landing gear. The aircraft was a one off and for reasons unknown, sank in Loch Doon and the project was never continued.

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/BE2c/be2cfloat.jpg)
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Europapete on April 13, 2022, 09:06:34 PM
By the look of that picture Mike, it proably sank because they made the floats too small. The water is already lapping around the rear struts and the tailplane is very low.  Regards, Pete
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: MoFo on April 13, 2022, 11:29:53 PM
No, no.  I meant a Sea Scout:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Aviation_in_Britain_Before_the_First_World_War_RAE-O809.jpg)

 Should fit nicely in a display case.  ;D
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: Mike Norris on April 14, 2022, 02:15:41 AM
Hi MoFo,
Aaaaaah the airship Sea Scout.
Interesting project but I think rather large.
Also a bit of a waste of most of the kit  :-\
Interesting project though if only with the bottom portion of the airship showing,

Mike
Title: Re: LukGraph 1/32 BE.2c coming late January 2022
Post by: KiwiZac on April 14, 2022, 03:43:33 AM
I'll have a crack at my BE2c next
Excellent news!

The aircraft was a one off and for reasons unknown, sank in Loch Doon and the project was never continued.
Although it doesn't explain the sinking (was she scuttled?), having seen multiple members of the BE.2 family in flight I can't think but performance would have been an issue!