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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Bughunter on December 12, 2021, 02:09:02 AM
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I am certainly going to follow Frank - so I will have the centre seat in the front row.
The seats are so realistic - difficult to believe that they are so small.
Stephen.
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Hear hear, the first painted seat looked perfect to me!
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Your usual Awesome Start Frank! The seats are pure art. Perhaps your Camel build will inspire Me to move My Last WNW kit up in the production line 8)
RAGIII
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Great start, Frank! Steal all the thunder you like... 😃
My build has stalled a bit, progress is really slow, so it'll be nice to follow your build and your usual enhancements.
/Fredrik
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Very follow-able!!
Steve
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Such a start, surely following! The new seats are lovely stuff and I think some will be added to my next order from Eduard.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Superb work Frank, as always ;)
Cheers,
Gary
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I like the underside paint, it looks so realistic! Nice work Frank!
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Great work, Frank!!
;) ::)
Cheers,
Bob
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Thank you Giuseppe, Gary, Zac and Bob!
After my last "half-scratched" models it feels a bit unusual to do really kit build. But I hope that in the end I will get a nice result that is perhaps not that spectacular as the last Aviatik project.
Cheers,
Frank
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Frank,
Nicely done, a very good start.
It seems that the Master never rests, at least not for long.
cheers, Graham
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Really Frank, can you truly resist the temptation to just add a "few" small scratch built additions?
BTW the wicker seat is very comfortable and affords a very fine view of the master craftsman at work.
Stephen.
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Thank you my friends!
It seems that the Master never rests, at least not for long.
Graham, I need to build full steam because I'm to old compared to the size of my stash ::)
On the other hand, I know there is a theory that you can't die with unbuilt kits. Maybe that's why some people buy so many kits.
Really Frank, can you truly resist the temptation to just add a "few" small scratch built additions?
Stephen. the clear answer is no! You will see this with the next update :D
Cheers,
Frank
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What can I say Frank but the usual Outstanding work. excellent work on details and terrific painting....Whats New ;D
RAGIII
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Frank,
What an epic build! I keep telling myself to add one challenging skill or detail to each one of my models. I think I will get to your level when I turn 142. You have me hooked, I will be following your progress.
Stuart
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Catching up as usual Frank - and am breathless from the running. The I see you photos and collapse for lack of air.... Everything is just so tiny and yet so realistic.
Do you use a magnifier of some kind when you are working?
PS the post story sounds all too familiar!
Stephen.
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Frank, fantastic job.
Ιf on the 1/48 scale you do this awesome job at 1/32 you will do miracles.
Spyros
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Thank you very much Stuart, Stephen and Spyros!
What an epic build!
Wow Stuart, what a feedback! That is high motivation fuel.
Everything is just so tiy and yet so realistic.
Stephen, I try to use brass and copper to avoid painting. So it looks also more realistic.
Ιf on the 1/48 scale you do this awesome job at 1/32 you will do miracles.
Spyros, as far as I see there is no chance to move to the big scale. The finished models are to big for my cabinet. With the end of WNW the prices for the kits on ebay and co prevents also a switch 8)
This kit is my first one by Eduard with the new style of decals. The question is now to peel or not to peel ??? I will try.
Cheers,
Frank
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Frank, with each update I'm blown away but inspired by the extra lengths you're going to to ensure this Camel looks right. It looks just gorgeous!
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A lot of work it may be, it the results look great!
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All of your extra effort in the cockpit has paid dividends as always Frank! The Vickers look outstanding and I totally agree about the two piece assembly making it easier to paint. WNW took the same approach on their Camel, Snipe, and Dolphin!
RAGIII
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More marvellous modelling Frank.
Stephen.
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1/48 scale - wow! Such amazing (and tiny!) details added - you must have the patience of a saint, Frank.
As always, stunning quality work thus far ...........
Regards
Dave
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Thank you Rick, Stephen and Dave for leaving such nice words, means a lot to me!
1/48 scale - wow! Such amazing (and tiny!) details added - you must have the patience of a saint, Frank.
A macro lens can be merciless, so you have to work carefully!
As always, stunning quality work thus far ...........
I have a new motto:
Build each model in such a way that the previous one becomes envious. 8)
Frank, with each update I'm blown away but inspired by the extra lengths you're going to to ensure this Camel looks right. It looks just gorgeous!
Zac, with the next update I will go again "the extra lengths"!
Maybe one or the other of the 32er fraction will drop by ...
Cheers,
Frank
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I have a new motto:
Build each model in such a way that the previous one becomes envious. 8)
Frank, that is brilliant! I have to save that somewhere like one of those inspirational posters.
To peel or not to peel the carrier film from top of the new style of Eduard decals, that is the question!
I hadn't heard of these new-style decals until your post, and frankly they frighten me a little bit! I'm glad you shared your experience as there are a few Eduard 1/48 kits in my future (bank balance dependent!) and I would've found these decals quite daunting without a heads-up.
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No worry Zac! They can be used like a normal decal.
We've had a discussion about this here on the forum, but I haven't had a model with them until now and just wanted to share my experience with them.
Cheers,
Frank
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Fantastic work Frank! I love absolutely everything!
You've also inspired me to carry on with my own Camel... until I realised that I lacked blue paint, so now it's on hold again. 😀
Cheers Fredrik
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No worry Zac! They can be used like a normal decal.
We've had a discussion about this here on the forum, but I haven't had a model with them until now and just wanted to share my experience with them.
Cheers,
Frank
Hi Frank,
Where is this discussion please? How do you soften the carrier film and make it separate while still staying robust enough to peel?
Cheers,
Hugh
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Great interiors, you made the extraordinary a daily matter. The new peeling decals are a "giant leap for humanity..." I love them, expecially for stenciling and other always silvering markings :D
Ciao
Giuseppe
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As I wrote on SCm, great work, as usual. And here is mine in progress , more oob. Eduard decals are a bit tricky, this is my fourth model with new decals,some were disaster,some were fine,it takes some practicing .
(https://i.imgur.com/DeQV4iN.jpg)
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Thank you for all your comments!
Where is this discussion please? How do you soften the carrier film and make it separate while still staying robust enough to peel?
Hugh, here is the link:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12033.0
I follow strictly the HowTo in the Eduard Info journal 5/21 page 52. I used the showed Gunze product on a gloss surface and pressed the decals down with a Q-tip.
There are crazy youtube videos. The rub on the decals with white spirit and complains, that the color goes off ::) Don't do that!
Pedja, thank you for the teaser - I hope that mine will look one day like this one. Everyone will build it faster than me ;D
So including Fredrik's Camel we have already 3 builds of the new Camel 8)
Cheers,
Frank
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Your list of tasks just to add transfers to the wheels was almost as long as mine to scratch build a complete True Scale model.....
......but the result was well worthwhile!
Stephen.
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Wow, the wheels look fantastic - and spot on compared to the photo! Great work, Frank.
Where is this discussion please? How do you soften the carrier film and make it separate while still staying robust enough to peel?
Hugh, here is the link:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12033.0
I follow strictly the HowTo in the Eduard Info journal 5/21 page 52. I used the showed Gunze product on a gloss surface and pressed the decals down with a Q-tip.
Thank you!
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Wow Frank. That's beautiful painting and the wheels look perfect
RAGIII
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Wunderbar Frank !
Alexis
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That tail skid - and cockpit - is absolutely exquisite! Beautiful work!
But I had a massive problem with a dry fitting. I removed parts and it took a while until I realized, that the middle part with the instruments needs to be thinned heavily on the back, otherwise the gun part in the back of the panel sits is a wrong position. The mount of the Löök resin panel is different to the mount of a kit panel!
Especially given the aftermarket part came from the same maker as the kit itself, that is so frustrating!!
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That Löök instrument panel looks fantastic, but I do get why you won't go for it again... for the Camel at least.
Amazing work on the tail skid. Mine is still in one piece, but I'll always be a bit worried that it might snap.
Good to see you at it again!
/Fredrik
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Outstanding panel and other details! This one really looks fantastic!
RAGIII
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Thank you Zac, Fredrik and Rick!
Especially given the aftermarket part came from the same maker as the kit itself, that is so frustrating!!
There are recesses on the IP, which fits perfectly into the MG mounts but this middle parts prevents this. There is a trap as those parts makes a perfectly flat surface, but this is wrong. Sorry, forgot some picture, but if one uses this resin parts he will see what I mean. And for such information we do our build reports, right?
Amazing work on the tail skid. Mine is still in one piece, but I'll always be a bit worried that it might snap.
I was more in worry in long term, not sure if this actual Eduard styrene gets brittle.
Outstanding panel and other details! This one really looks fantastic!
Even great kits and accessories could be enhanced ;D
Cheers,
Frank
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I am reminded that Eduard had said they were going to make the "Best Camel Kit" in any scale .Personally I think they fell short of that boast but your mods show that it can be built to a level that would rival any scale ! Beautiful work Frank!!
RAGIII
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I only agree with Rick's comment above. The very small parts that you are working with look so much larger in your photographs - until I see the Cent coin. What a shame that all of that detail in the cockpit will be barely visible - leave some panels off so that people can really admire your modelling skills.
Stephen.
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Add me to the club.
Fantastic cockpit and mods.
Well done!!
Bob ;)
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Yes, it's really a shame the detail in the cockpit will be so hard to see, but then you have details for the outside of the plane to show :D
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Thank you Rick, Stephen, Bob and Ken!
Rick, the fit is really impressive - the front part snaps into the fuselage halves and holds without glue. Never seen such engineered plastic parts!
Bob and Ken, very nice, that you found my new project - welcome to the show!
And I can show a new picture: Today I got a belated Christmas present from my wife - Rudi Rednose's sledge was stuck in a traffic jam ;D
A Camel on a T-Shirt! Not exactly the Camel of my built, but very nice 8)
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1v62oP-dqPJkPRaxm4y-FWKnTK3JbZL64)
Cheers,
Frank
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Your scratched stick looks great and I love that you wanted to capture the "open pipe" look of the top tube - you've certainly done so!
There are recesses on the IP, which fits perfectly into the MG mounts but this middle parts prevents this. There is a trap as those parts makes a perfectly flat surface, but this is wrong. Sorry, forgot some picture, but if one uses this resin parts he will see what I mean. And for such information we do our build reports, right?
Precisely! As I become more and more tempted by 1/48 WW1 kits this is very handy information to have. Thank you Frank!
And I can show a new picture: Today I got a belated Christmas present from my wife - Rudi Rednose's sledge was stuck in a traffic jam ;D
A Camel on a T-Shirt! Not exactly the Camel of my built, but very nice 8)
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1v62oP-dqPJkPRaxm4y-FWKnTK3JbZL64)
Now that's a cool image for a shirt! Great choice, Mrs Bughunter!
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I do not know how I missed this build! Frank, what you do and show us here is a treat! Spectacular work, detailing, amendments, etc. But then, this is what we grew to expect from you. And... enjoy the T-shirt! :)
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Right on Frank !
Alexis
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As always your struts are beautifully carved and finished Frank! Odd about the molding on the cowling considering how far molding techniques have advanced over the years ::)
RAGIII
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Nice fix on the cowl bowl Frank, I'll have to keep an eye out for that. And thanks for the explanation on different cowls - it may be blasphemy, and I may have been seeing Camels fly at airshows since 2001, but they've never really been a favourite so while I appreciate them it's only until now that they've popped up on my modelling radar.
I do not like at the end my wood painting and my wife asked: "Why no wooden struts this time?" So I have now a bunch of nice little but rigid wooden sticks.
Sometimes it helps to have an objective observer on hand to provide feedback!! ;D
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Nice clean up on the cowl Frank and your struts are a beauty
Alexis
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Like the others said, Frank: great struts, sharp eye for the detail — like always — and fantastic work on the fuselage.
Andreas
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Wood struts are always better in the larger scales Frank - as your models invariably demonstrate. Super additional small details too - ones which I would probably have overlooked!
Stephen.
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Thank you Rick, Zac, Alexis, Andreas and Stephen!
Odd about the molding on the cowling considering how far molding techniques have advanced over the years ::)
I prefer this new cowling a lot over the multi-part cowlings, even if the mould is not yet perfect.
Nice fix on the cowl bowl Frank, I'll have to keep an eye out for that. And thanks for the explanation on different cowls - it may be blasphemy, and I may have been seeing Camels fly at airshows since 2001, but they've never really been a favourite so while I appreciate them it's only until now that they've popped up on my modelling radar.
Very nice from Eduard to provide four different cowlings (and many engine types) !
Very nice Andreas, that you found me latest project!
Wood struts are always better in the larger scales Frank
I hope so, but the nice mount engineering is lost then, lets see. But the struts are very thin, so I hope to win some robustness.
Cheers,
Frank
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Hi Frank!
Love your wood struts!
Thanks for the explanation about the cowling. I was able to take mine off and it is now sanded and waiting for paint.
You asked about the sturdiness of the undercarriage... It is quite rigid once in place. Rigging adds extra strength of course but isn't absolutely necessary. I'd say that the same is true for Eduard's struts including the tail landing "wheel" (there's got to be a term for it), they are quite rigid and do their job. Your wooden ones are very nice in colour though and they obviously be even sturdier.
Cheers
Fredrik
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Nce work on the Bentley Frank
Eduard really have come a long ways with their printing parts . Nice sharp details
Alexis
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Superb looking Bentley!
The extra work was definitely worth it!
Cheers,
Hugh
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Your engines are always superb and this one is certainly No Exception!
RAGIII
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I've been missing a couple of updates, great job overall with detailing and rebuilding according your fantastic way, especially the engine took benefit from your upgradings.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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I think the wire pushrods are the way to go. I'm glad to see you did it. The Brassin engine looks as good as any I've seen.
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Thank you very much! I'm glad you like the little Bentley!
I think the wire pushrods are the way to go. I'm glad to see you did it.
Yes. I wondered why the impression is a bit different to the original picture, but this comes from the 4 bolts of each cylinder. Those are also a little bit to thick, but there is no chance to replace it. May be Eugeny from Small Stuff has a idea ;)
I like the result, but I spent much more time, compared to my usual rotaries. Hopefully I'm faster with the next one.
Cheers,
Frank
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Frank that engine must be as good as they get in this scale. An observer would need a magnifying glass to look at it on the model anyway, and as most observers ill be at least 1 meter away I think that the engine would pass any test with flying colours. Looking at the photos I wondered if you had test run it yet!
Stephen.
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Wow Frank, that looks fantastic! I'd say you've nailed it. Can I help with the test runs? ;)
The kit offers 4 engine types: Clerget, Gnome, Le Rhone and the Bentley
Please forgive my ignorance - is it the 160hp Le Rhone?
If you look for references (what I usually always do - this is a fun part of the hobby) you will need also to look for Bentley A.R.1 for "Admirality Rotary", which was later renamed to "Bentley Rotary". The engine was developed as a less troublesome replacement for the Clerget.
On Wikipedia you can find this wonderful picture, also in a high resolution.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Propeller_engine_on_a_stand_%2822398263742%29.jpg/629px-Propeller_engine_on_a_stand_%2822398263742%29.jpg)
That is a fantastic image, what a hidden treasure! I love the design of the engine stand - I wonder if there are other pictures of this assembly out there?
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Thank you Stephen and Zac!
Looking at the photos I wondered if you had test run it yet!
No Stephen, if you look carefully you will notice that one push rod is lost! Noticed that today and need to repair it before. ;)
Please forgive my ignorance - is it the 160hp Le Rhone?
I don't think so, I think the standard 110hp as mentioned in the Windsock Datafile.
Please see lower half of page 4:
https://www.eduard.com/out/media/11151.pdf
Here you can see the 3D printed improvement, the a hp number is also not mentioned:
https://www.eduard.com/eduard/sopwith-camel-le-rhone-engine-print-1-48.html
That is a fantastic image, what a hidden treasure! I love the design of the engine stand - I wonder if there are other pictures of this assembly out there?
Loved that picture too, that's why I used in in my posting.
Here you have access to the full resolution file, and some other pictures of this engine:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Bentley_AR1
Cheers,
Frank
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Please forgive my ignorance - is it the 160hp Le Rhone?
I don't think so, I think the standard 110hp as mentioned in the Windsock Datafile.
Please see lower half of page 4:
https://www.eduard.com/out/media/11151.pdf
Thanks Frank - TVAL/Sir Peter Jackson have a flying replica with a 160 Gnome (https://jamesfahey.smugmug.com/Sopwith-Camel-replica-ZK-JMU) but I think that's a non-standard fit (I've seen mention that it's overpowered compared to original examples). When the time comes I'll look at aftermarket options 8)
In the meantime, I'm excited to see the next update on your Bentley Camel!
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Zac, I checked the technical data in the Windsock Datafile 26, and beside the list of "normal" engines, there was also experimental:
- the 110hp Clerget 9Z in the first prototype
- 170hp Le Rhone 9R
- 185hp Clerget 9H
A stronger Gnome was not listed, so this is may be "modern freedom" ;)
Really pity that the strong Gnome N is also not available from Small Stuff as I need it for example for the Morane-Sailnier Type AI.
Cheers,
Frank
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You have the patience of a saint to do all of that masking - and then it still bled....!
Stephen.
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The blue and white stripe scheme really stands out and to be honest I prefer it to the red and white I'm more used to. I'm not sure if this is a technique you use - and if not, I'm too late to help here - but to help prevent paint seepage I paint a further coat of the base over the areas to be masked, ensuring panel lines/curves etc get some attention. It doesn't always stop seepage but I've found it helps a lot.
In the meantime, I'm excited to see the next update on your Bentley Camel!
Ok, if Zac is so impatient, it goes on ... ;)
Excited, but patiently waiting with anticipation! ;D
A stronger Gnome was not listed, so this is may be "modern freedom" ;)
I expect you're right. My subject aircraft (https://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossier.php?Serial=162257) was built by Gerald Thornhill and Carl Swanson (a prolific builder of Great War replicas) in the mid-1980s and like many replicas of that time I believe it was a case of "use what you've got" when it came to the engine.
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A beautiful scheme and a major Masking challenge for sure! After a bit of touch up I am sure you will make it even more Beautiful. I don't know if you tried the "Painters" trick but I always paint another thin coat of the base color, in this case white, after masking. Seals the edges and usually no bleeding of the second color.
RAGIII
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Not an easy scheme at all to be masking up which turned out good Frank , not much for touch up on the stripes really , stripes are never easy .
Alexis
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Thank you Stephen, Zac, Rick and Alexis!
And also thanks for the good hints about sealing the masks.
Experience is to recognise that you have made the same mistake before. ???
Cheers,
Frank
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Frank,
It's great to see more of your "Brass Magic".
Kevin
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Your Usual Exceptional work Frank!
RAGIII
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Brass magic meets the white-blue airbrushing magic. A pleasure to behold.
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Frank,
Beautiful modeling. I'm curious how you did the white shading for the framing on the fuselage? Did you mask those lines and paint, or maybe painted in general then masked over it for the dark gradient?
Stuart
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That a the basic parts to build new legs from 28 brass parts and 3 layers of veneer.
Oh, wow Frank!! That's amazing! And here I was, thinking you'd just use the old tooling legs! Scale engineering at its finest.
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Wow Frank, your metalwork plant is going full steam as usual ... it's always a pleasure to look at your builds ...
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Thank you Kevin, Rick, Prze, Stuart, Zac and Antonio! Your feedback is highly appreciated!
I'm curious how you did the white shading for the framing on the fuselage? Did you mask those lines and paint, or maybe painted in general then masked over it for the dark gradient?
Stuart, on a white primed fuselage I applied thin stripes (hard to see, to match the lines on the plastic). Then I shaded this with a very thin dark color.
your metalwork plant is going full steam as usual ...
I must admit, that it was not easy this time, because there are many parts are coming together very closely. That makes the soldering very hard! Normally I cool down the next soldering points with tweezers to avoid that is opens again, but here it was not working that way.
It's a good thing that no one heard my curses! ;D
I'm applying now the next batch of decals ...
Cheers,
Frank
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Well, your metal work looks excellent.
As for the painting, I have always regarded masking for painting as an art.
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This is a joy to follow.
Amazing detail.
Alan.
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That is one Gorgeous Camel !
RAGIII
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Great work, Frank!
As impressive as anything and it all looks so good!
/Fredrik
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No, the lower wooden board is not hollow like the original, but I do like my new undercarriage anyway!
So do I, it looks fantastic! Beautiful job Frank!
The "rubber" lines are also wound in to hold the axles and later the model.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1YSsyGsnM5L-_xEvxBTW25Gx-1vkZ9N0r)
As a future Eduard Camel buyer, what did you use for the rubber suspension?
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This is incredible modelling, Frank... just lovely detail, so close to the real thing and neat and just ... perfect. Well done! Marc.
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I like your new undercarriage as well Frank.
I can only wonder what sort of gem you'd come up with if you scratch built an entire air frame!
Your attention to detail and ability to work like this at 1/48 is very humbling.
Cheers,
Hugh
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Thank you very much for your great feedback!
That is one Gorgeous Camel !
Not yet Rick, but I hope very soon!
As a future Eduard Camel buyer, what did you use for the rubber suspension?
The cheapest material we have all - stretched sprue, secured with CA.
The original pictures I showed before has some beige rubber, so I take the beige sprues from the older Edard kits (the newer one a dark blue grey).
just lovely detail, so close to the real thing and neat and just ... perfect.
Yes Marc, I try to understand how things works and try to replicate that.
I (or the engineer inside) like to follow the technical development. E.g. the evolution of the Sopwith undercarriages from the Lebed (Tabloid), Pup, Triplane, Camel (the later camels wound the rubber directly around the struts), which is very close already to the Dolphin. Those I built already.
I can only wonder what sort of gem you'd come up with if you scratch built an entire air frame!
Hugh, I have plans to full scratch a type, which is not available as kit. But such builds take a lot of time, so thankfully to Eduard and others we have a great kit or at least a good base to have a chance to finish a project in a reasonable amount of time. And if I see the huge amount of great details on the Camel here that would be a lot of work to do it myself. And there are also nice accessories to save some time! Why not use those? I will show more soon.
I like to have more finished birds of that biplane time in my cabinet and many kits in my stash are helps me on that way. So my half-scratch work seems to be a good compromise effort and time wise.
Cheers,
Frank
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"I like to have more finished birds of that biplane time in my cabinet and many kits in my stash are helps me on that way. So my half-scratch work seems to be a good compromise effort and time wise."
That is always the plan... But if you are like me and visit hobby shops once or twice a month and are psychologically unable to leave without at least one kit under your arm, but at the same time, have too many other things that life wants to throw in your way, then it's never going to happen ;)
Cheers,
Hugh
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I have been bogged down with real-life issues, but just found some time to catch up on the Forum. What a great build, I would say 'as usual'... but each one of your builds is both the same and unique. Always a pleasure to see your models grow to completion, and thanks for keeping these extensive build logs :-)
Interesting that the cowling inner ring (near the opening) is sometimes depicted white, and sometimes with revered blue/white (so white line = blue end, blue line = white end)
(https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1FgfYL9xfWh2UpPD-2aTeQtKKi5mWodkF)
It can be seen here on the WNW build:
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/v98C7274C/www/products/model_kitsets/32070/assembled_models/32070%201~32%20Sopwith%20F.1%20Camel%20BR.1%20-%20Brett%20Sharman%20NZ%20detail%20(7).jpg)
I remember there was an issue of Cross&Cockade about this and other aircraft, and although I'm great at remembering useless details I would not know in this case!
Jeroen
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But if you are like me and visit hobby shops once or twice a month and are psychologically unable to leave without at least one kit under your arm
Hugh, I have a trick: I try to stick to 1/48 biplanes. I have them nearly all in my stash or the cabinet, so I don't need to buy something in a shop 8) Ok, I will by the new Eduard Camel Comic this year, but there are not so much new releases in this area.
thanks for keeping these extensive build logs :-)
Thank you Jeroen, and you are welcome!
Interesting that the cowling inner ring (near the opening) is sometimes depicted white, and sometimes with revered blue/white (so white line = blue end, blue line = white end)
I have a picture from front/left of this Camel and it shows clearly a complete white ring. That is also the same in the Eduard manual as there is a own drawing in front view (and one of the right side, btw). The WNW manual do not show both drawings or an original picture, so that detail is not explained and builders artist freedom.
Cheers,
Frank
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Exquisite is the word that keeps coming to mind whenever you post an update, Frank. It truly is an exquisite build.
As a future Eduard Camel buyer, what did you use for the rubber suspension?
The cheapest material we have all - stretched sprue, secured with CA.
To quote a popular UK sitcom character from the 1990s: "I don't beelieeve it!" That's stretched sprue? Amazing!!
And yes, I really like the new kind of Eduard decals!
One can't argue with the results - they look perfect!
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Thank you Zac for your always exquisite feedback!
To quote a popular UK sitcom character from the 1990s: "I don't beelieeve it!" That's stretched sprue? Amazing!!
It can be stretched to the needed thuckness, that is a advantage. I every time 4 or 5 tries to get the right thickness, but it works. Such thin sizes are relative flexible. And if it breaks, next try.
Cheers,
Frank
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I never fail to be blown away by the details you add. I never would have thought to use stretched sprue for the wheel bugees. I have now put that idea into My things to try folder ;D
Wingnuts, decals, and cowling are Stunning!
RAGIII
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Always a pleasure Frank and your skills have definitely grown :)
Alexis
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A little beauty!
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You can't argue with that result Frank, it looks like the PRINT set (combined with your skill) is worth its weight in gold. Especially given the variety supplied in the "box".
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I am convinced you can turn Lead into Gold Frank 8)
RAGIII
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Fantastic details on the cowling and beautiful work on the fuel pump! Awe inspiring to say the least!
/Fredrik
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Interesting that the cowling inner ring (near the opening) is sometimes depicted white, and sometimes with revered blue/white (so white line = blue end, blue line = white end)
I have a picture from front/left of this Camel and it shows clearly a complete white ring. That is also the same in the Eduard manual as there is a own drawing in front view (and one of the right side, btw). The WNW manual do not show both drawings or an original picture, so that detail is not explained and builders artist freedom.
Cheers,
Frank
That saves me from having to look up the specific issue with the article! :) I did notice that WNW didn't have a front view, actually somewhat unusual for them :)
Eduard sure do some good stuff! (well, as does the builder ;-))
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Another exquisite detail for your Camel and our joy was born. I know I'm not skilled to reproduce such a fine work but these Brassin items will be entered the wishlist, they are amazing. As a friend from France once told me "tous jour c'est meilleur"
Ciaio
Giuseppe
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Oh Frank, what a mishap: the screw that holds the tiny prop on your airpump was in fact a cross-head screw, but you used a slotted-head screw! Maybe you could change that?
Ok, kidding aside, again another evidence of your great skills and also of eduard‘s great skills to generate delicate aftermarket parts that turn a small model into a jewel (from a detail-point of view and regarding the final price ;)). The fuselage of your Camel is hardly distinguishable from its larger 1:32 twin brother or even better. Your sharp eye for details still amazes me!
Andreas
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what a mishap: the screw that holds the tiny prop on your airpump was in fact a cross-head screw, but you used a slotted-head screw! Maybe you could change that?
Oh no, he messed it up....thats it ;D
Again, lovely details. That is what a model brings to life.
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I have been away and am catching up Frank. Just spent a very interesting and informative session reading through your latest updates - and have decided that my models should now be consigned to the bin.... I have problems making small parts for a 1/32 model- you are making better ones for 1/48!!!!
I have to agree with Andreas - your modelling skills are outstanding indeed.
Stephen.
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Thank you very much Prze, Zac, Rick, Fredrik, Jeroen, Giuseppe, Andreas, Wolfgang and Stephen for leaving such nice comments! That is the right fuel for even more details! :)
You can't argue with that result Frank, it looks like the PRINT set (combined with your skill) is worth its weight in gold. Especially given the variety supplied in the "box".
Also the big amount of holders is useful as I scratched already such a pump in older projects. To have this PE and parts saves a lot of time!
Your sharp eye for details still amazes me!
Andreas, I have to thank again our member James Fahey to post such fantastic high resolution pictures of the real bird here in the forum! It is so much fun to replicate such details, and most important is always what to do - to solve the "how?" there is always a way :D
That is what a model brings to life.
Detail .... and paint, as you showed on your LVG!
Another update soon!
Cheers,
Frank
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Excellent work on the windows Frank! I am wondering why you couldn't just cut the ends from the kit struts, insert them in the appropriate holes, and then drill for your wire ends on your wooden struts?
RAGIII
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Thank you Rick!
I was not sure, if the inspection windows were painted over on this aircraft, but I like this detail.
The ends of the kit struts has only a loose fit and was very thin, so that would not help me. And I wanted to keep them as backup solution and length reference.
Cheers,
Frank
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Spectacular results on those inspection openings.
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All of your work here looks excellent, Frank.
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I really like your solution for the strut ends in the wings. I have been trying to think of a similar solution for a long time for my larger models - I will try the idea on the BE.
The extra details that you have added and the rigging wire attachments are all first class.
Stephen.
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Well it seems you sorted out the strut ends with No Real Difficulty Frank! Your Camel is looking Amazing!
RAGIII
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Looking awesome Frank!
Thanks for showing your rigging process. Your introspection windows also look pretty much perfect!
Cheers,
Hugh
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That is some of the most spectacular rigging work I've ever seen. All in all, wonderful modelling at it's best, Frank.
Cheers,
Gary
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Looking fantastic! Those RAF wire terminals look the business. Might have to get me some.
Cheers,
BC
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Those resin (I guess) anchor points look absolutely fantastic! But then so does everything else you've done. It's really fun to see your work!
/Fredrik
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Beautiful work. What a great paint scheme for a camel.
I recently read "the airmen who would not die" by John Fuller. It deals with Hinchliffe's attempted flight post WWI over the Atlantic and his wife and others talking to him in seances after his death, in which he warns of a disaster with the future flight of Britain's R101 airship. Quite a bit of detailed information about this airship and its maiden voyage. Interesting book.
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I'm just shaking my head in admiration, each part is a stunning piece of work. The cabanes and interplane struts are beautiful and the linen...wow, the linen!!
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Thank you Ken, Stephen, Rick, Hugh, Gary, Brad, Fredrik, BSM and Zac for such nice comments!
I really like your solution for the strut ends in the wings.
Luckily I have ordered some brass to help a fellow with some turned parts, so I had the right sizes at hand. The Albion micro tubes have thinner walls.
That is some of the most spectacular rigging work I've ever seen.
Wow Gary, now I need a read face smiley!
Those RAF wire terminals look the business.
I used them already on my Sopwith Dolphin and Sopwith Triplane. On the package is stated 100 pieces, but there are 7 rows of 15, so one was enough for both.
Really pity, that in 1/48 is only one size. In 1/32 the normal ones can be used on the wings, and the 1/48 for smaller terminals on undercarriage, tail and so on.
Interesting book.
With the build of this Camel I read about, that Hinchliffe was lost during flight over the Atlantic.
Does the book happen to mention the background of the German expression "Donnerwetter" on its Camel? That means "thunderstorm", but also "to be hauled over the coals" and is used to express surprise or astonishment.
The devil and the flashes on the wheels matches this somehow. But I don't know how did this german phrase find it´s way onto this british plane?
BTW, the Donnerwetter and the C marking (leader of the C-Flight) were one decal on the left side, as there exists a picture. We have no picture of the right side, so we don't know. Eduard made both as single decals so the modeler is free to use one or both. I applied all because it looks so nice 8)
I'm just shaking my head in admiration, each part is a stunning piece of work. The cabanes and interplane struts are beautiful and the linen...wow, the linen!!
Zac, I hope you won't get a headache! The linen is one of those lovely linen colors made by MR-Paint (https://mrpaint.sk/). I really like them, but they are airbrush paints.
I'm working now on the remaining wing rigging, with the double wires and going trough the lower wing this is more tricky.
Cheers,
Frank
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Frank,
I wasn't going to buy this kit. I already (Still) have 3 of the early 2000s release in my stash. But I think I'm going to have to.
Cheers,
Hugh
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You are making a spectacular modeling show around this spectacularly decorated Camel. The true show stopper in the making.
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(Does the book happen to mention the background of the German expression "Donnerwetter" on its Camel? That means "thunderstorm", but also "to be hauled over the coals" and is used to express surprise or astonishment.
The devil and the flashes on the wheels matches this somehow. But I don't know how did this german phrase find it´s way onto this british plane?)
Frank,
The book briefly mentions his career during WWI and focuses more on his life after the war and after his death.
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Will say this Frank , your skills get better with every build my friend :)
Alexis
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That’s modelling on its peak. Jardropping!
I hope you don't think I'm definitely crazy now!
Cheers,
Frank
Sorry Frank. You can’t have everything…
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You May be Crazy but it is a Good Crazy Frank 8) Absolutely Stunning rigging work. That Acorn is Mind Blowing!!
RAGIII
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Frank I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!
Spyros
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Thank you very much Andreas, Rick and Spyros!
That’s modelling on its peak.
Yes, peak is the right expression! I do not know, if I can do this again, so if I'm doing the second kit of this box I have to repeat this sh...! I hope that at least the Comic Camel, which I want to buy later this year, do not have it :D
Cheers,
Frank
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As with everything else on this build the rigging looks fantastic! Great work Frank!
I'm just shaking my head in admiration, each part is a stunning piece of work. The cabanes and interplane struts are beautiful and the linen...wow, the linen!!
Zac, I hope you won't get a headache! The linen is one of those lovely linen colors made by MR-Paint (https://mrpaint.sk/). I really like them, but they are airbrush paints.
I always have pain medication in reach while browsing this forum, lest I strain my neck or jaw muscles in amazement! ;) Thank you for the paint recommendation. Other modellers have been pushing for me to get an airbrush setup since 2007. It's definitely on my list!
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Hello Frank.
That is the most detailed rigging I have ever seen. I do not know the name of the thing infront of the cockpit that has four wires running thru it but when I made an Eduard Camel I thought at the time I was being clever using a blob of thick super glue and a couple more blobs of thick paint to replicate that incredibally intricate thing you did.
Alan
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Frank, should you ever quit model building, sure you have a golden future in fine clockmaking. Hats off.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Congratulations on a job well done! It is really fun to look at your progress and to see all of these fantastic additions. Some of which I intend to try and copy. Some of which are so far out of my league, that I only smile when I see them and think 'That is so typically Frank's work!'.
/Fredrik
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Great result on the rigging. It looks like the best rendition of British flat wires I have ever seen on any model.
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Got to agree with the others Frank - lost for words to describe what you have done....
Ang BTW - yes I do think that you have completely lost it now!
Stephen.
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Thank you very much Zac, Alan, Giuseppe, Fredrik, Prze and Stephen for taking your time to leave a comment!
At the moment I'm working on the tail, which needs also a lot of work.
Cheers,
Frank
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Frank , Wunderbar !
Alexis
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Beautiful work, Frank.
Kevin
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You continue to amaze me with this detailed build!
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The tail looks sufficiently busy. I see you are making extensive use of the RAF wire ends.
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Exquisite work Frank! And may I say it's great to see James' photos being used to help your project.
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More modelling marvellousness. (In Deutsch: sehr Wunderbar!)
Stephen.
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Thank you very much to all of you!
You continue to amaze me with this detailed build!
I just added another nice detail 8)
I see you are making extensive use of the RAF wire ends.
You 32 builders are more lucky guys! I have only one size, in 1/32 one could use the smaller 1/48 terminals on the tail.
Anyway, better then nothing and those little buggers are smaller than my metal pipes or other solutions.
And may I say it's great to see James' photos being used to help your project.
I have not included all the used pictures here in the build report, but I have download all of them in full resolution and have always some of them open while working on specific details. Really helpful pictures!
Cheers,
Frank
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First I wish I had the skill to make those control horns and fittings in 1/32nd scale. It would solve an issue I am having with the DH2 ::) Yours are done to perfection! I don't know what part is missing but WOW, is that Camel Gorgeous!!
RAGIII
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Sorry Frank but doctoring James' photo of the pipes on the front strut and trying to pass it off as your model will not do...!
What a model indeed - and the prop is still not fitted!! Is it 1/24 scale by any chance?
Stephen.
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- and the prop is still not fitted!! Is it 1/24 scale by any chance?
Stephen.
Now How did I miss that! :-[
RAGIII
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Absolutely stunning, I’m speechless :-X
No expensive PR campaign could make better commercial for this kit.
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Incredible execution!!
Steve
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It's one thing to see James' photos of these delicate-seeming details and tremendous craftsmanship (or, as I've been extremely fortunate, to see them in person) but to translate them into model form...and in 1/48...now that's something special. Frank, all that pipework and rigging is truly inspirational and aspirational.
No expensive PR campaign could make better commercial for this kit.
Hear hear!
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Thank you very much, to each one of you!
First I wish I had the skill to make those control horns and fittings in 1/32nd scale.
As I mentioned the control horns itself are from the PE set of PART. I made them only a bit thicker with tin and a soldering iron.
Is it 1/24 scale by any chance?
Stephen, as far as I know Eduard has not any 1/24 scale aircraft model in the portfolio, so this must be 1/48 :D
- and the prop is still not fitted!!
Stephen.
Now How did I miss that! :-[
RAGIII
Rick, you made my day! ;D ;D
That's how we humans are - the obvious is often overlooked.
No expensive PR campaign could make better commercial for this kit.
I think Eduard is aware of this fact 8)
It's one thing to see James' photos of these delicate-seeming details and tremendous craftsmanship (or, as I've been extremely fortunate, to see them in person) but to translate them into model form...and in 1/48...now that's something special.
If I know "what" I have to replicate, then I can also find a "how". But nothing works without references.
Cheers,
Frank
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The prop is absolutely Gorgeous Frank!
RAGIII
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beautifully done (whole project)
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Gran finale. Top notch, as all this build.
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Well done throughout, Frank! And as always a fantastic build report as well. Truly inspirational!
/Fredrik
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It's one thing to see James' photos of these delicate-seeming details and tremendous craftsmanship (or, as I've been extremely fortunate, to see them in person) but to translate them into model form...and in 1/48...now that's something special.
If I know "what" I have to replicate, then I can also find a "how". But nothing works without references.
Hear hear!
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Thank you very much, also for your strong support through the whole build!
For completeness: the final pictures can be found here:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12851.0
Cheers,
Frank
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Super prop Frank.
Stephen.
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Super prop Frank.
Thank you Stephen! And if you look carefully you can count the layers of the real wood 8)
It was somehow hard to paint it over, at least partly.
Cheers,
Frank
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Wow! Such impressive modelling, Frank! I just Love that prop! But a Great build, way beyond my skill levels... That's why I appreciate it so much... Something to aspire to! Regards, Marc.