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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Mike Norris on October 29, 2021, 09:56:52 AM
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Hi all,
The next build will hopefully be a French Salmson 2-A2, Serial number 381, of Escadrille SAL 28.
No reason other than I like the unit's elephant marking,
Mike
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I am really looking forward to this build. The Salmson was one my favorite WNW builds. It's a great kit.
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Mike, this is (once again) something to look forward to! I really like the Salmson.
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Hi all,
Thanks.
As you can see in the photograph, this aircraft had front and rear twin flying and landing wires between each wing bay.
These were held together by wood strip inserts between each pair of wires and wrapped to secure them in place.
Representing those wires will be an interesting exercise,
Mike
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Looking forward to this one Mike !
Alexis
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Just finished this bird a few months ago! Absolutely loved the build, and the schemes make for some colorful, sharp looking aircraft!
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Hi all,
The basic engine is complete.
I've added the ignition harnesses to the two rear mounted magnetos.
Also the twin ignition leads from the circular support tube to the twin sparks plugs on each of the nine cylinders.
The radiator shutters are being modeled as open,
Mike
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Gorgeous engine! You are bringing back fond memories!
RAGIII
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Great engine, looking forward to next steps of your build of this interesting subject.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Beautiful!
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Nice start and lovely work on your engine, Mike
Regards
Dave
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Very nice engine and work on it. I like the wiring of the magnetos.
Bye,
manni
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That's a great and colorfull engine. Excellent !
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That was an impressive looking engine! Very colourful with the different metals and the blue.
/Fredrik
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Lovely outcome with the power plant Mike
Alexis
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Great job of the engine Mike!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Beautiful work!
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Hi all,
Sorry, but I forgot to take shots of the cockpit assembly before closing up the fuselage!!
Anyway I added the rudder and elevator control cables.
Also the cross bracing wires in the cockpit side frames, across the internal frames and on the floor panels.
The observer/gunner seat is fitted in the stowed position, as I'll be adding a figure into the rear cockpit.
I still have some weathering and detail to add, such as cockpit and engine control rods and pipes and the wireless reel wire etc.
As usual, not much can be seen once the cockpit decking panel is fitted - hey ho.
For now I'll be putting this model aside so that I can complete the Avro 'Vulcan' Mk.2 I'm building for a friends birthday next month.
Then I'll be back on the Salmson,
Mike
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Great job on the fuselage interior. And the engine. One more jewel in the making.
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Gorgeous interior work Mike. You will see even Less when the upper wing is in place :o
RAGIII
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Superb work. You're not mucking about either!
Cheers,
Hugh
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Fantastic looking interior!
/Fredrik
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WOW, BEAU-TI-FUL!!
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Wow amazing work
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This is one of the kits that was always last to sell on retail websites. Good luck getting one of these beauties now.
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Outstanding work on the interior, Mike.
Regards
Dave
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Outstanding work on the interior, Mike.
Regards
Dave
Odd because the kit is as good or better than Most!
RAGIII
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Outstanding work on the interior, Mike.
Regards
Dave
Odd because the kit is as good or better than Most!
RAGIII
I'm guessing you quoted the wrong post Rick?! 😁
/F
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Wow, Mike. That is great. Super detailed and lots for interesting colors.
Bye, Manni
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Impressive work on a impressive kit! Superb as always!
A question: what is the background of the brown? color of the shutter plates of the front?
I checked the manual of my 1/48 Gaspatch kit and there is was stated, that those plates was made of aluminium.
Just as interest fro my future build of this bird :)
Cheers,
Frank
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Impressive work on a impressive kit! Superb as always!
A question: what is the background of the brown? color of the shutter plates of the front?
I checked the manual of my 1/48 Gaspatch kit and there is was stated, that those plates was made of aluminium.
Just as interest fro my future build of this bird :)
Cheers,
Frank
Hi Frank,
Although the radiator shutters were Aluminium, it seems many were painted with a Chestnut Brown dope.
The 'Wingnut Wings' manual states that either can be used.
I chose the doped colour and for 'Tamiya' paint it's a mixture of the following:
NATO Brown (XF68) - 10 drops
Flat Aluminium (XF16) - 2 drops
Sky Grey (XF19) - 1 drop.
Once painted I sponged on Weathering Master Set D (oil stain) over the leading edges of the shutters,
Mike
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I have to admit I hadn't popped in here until today as the Salmson is something I've never really cared for, but your work is turning me around. The engine and cowl are beautiful, and the interior is gorgeous!
I hope you can share some photos of the Vulcan.
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I have to admit I hadn't popped in here until today as the Salmson is something I've never really cared for, but your work is turning me around. The engine and cowl are beautiful, and the interior is gorgeous!
I hope you can share some photos of the Vulcan.
Hi KiwiZac,
Thanks.
The Vulcan B Mk.2 is getting close to being completed, but I still have the display case to finish as well.
As the forum is specific to WW1 subjects, I'll not post photographs of the Vulcan B Mk.2 here.
However, I will add a link to shots of the completed model at the end of this thread if that's OK,
Mike
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Mike,
You can add all the photos you wish to in "The World of Scale Models" topic right here. I too would enjoy seeing photos of that beauty!
Cheers,
Lance
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Hi Lance,
Thanks - I'd not scrolled that far down in the forum topics ::)
I'll post the Vulcan there.
Also thanks for you earlier comments - appreciated,
Mike
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Thumbs Up Mike !
Alexis
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Fantastic work, amazing. I came back because I’m contemplating do a French aircraft all doped or camouflaged. Need to source those greens and coffee colours of course:)
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Hi all,
I've decided to change the model to represent Salmson 2-A2, Serial number 381, of Escadrille SAL 28.
No reason other than I like the unit's elephant marking,
Mike
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Excellent choice! I couldn't resist the elephant marking myself.... excited to see the result. Looks great so far!
-ViperDriver
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Hi all,
A few updates on the Salmson 2-A2 build.
The front end is coming together now.
The engine assembly is fitted with the painted access panels.
The three on the left side are being left off as the intention is to have a mechanic working on that area.
I've added the twin cross bracing wires to the front bay frame (0.08 mm mono-filament, 0.4 mm diameter blackened Brass tube and 'GasPatch' 1:48th scale turnbuckles (Type C).
I've also added the access panel metal support ring around the front of the engine support beams.
The 'GasPatch' replacement Vickers machine gun and the mounting recess in the panel have been slightly modified to fit.
Also the carburettor air intake pipe has been drilled out as it was moulded solid.
Now it's onto adding more detail such as wiring, terminal box, cables etc to the exposed structure, using photographs as a guide,
Mike
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Really looking great, especially with your added details Mike!
RAGIII
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Awesome!
I assume the ejector marks will be hidden by other parts?
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Hi all,
Yes there's a whole lot of stuff in the side bay area that I want to represent and it will cover the elector pin marks.
It's difficult to know exactly what it all is or where its all attached to, but I'll add something there,
Mike
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Very nice.
And I see that the location of ejection pin marks has not been changed since 2014 when I built mine ;D But I have covered that space... because I gave up the task to discover what all those lines were, and where did they go. Since that time I have a feeling that Salmson was the most complex aircraft of WW1. I am looking forward to see your interpretation, Mike.
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Your craftsmanship is outstanding Mike, that is an impeccable job on the engine!
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Very nice.
And I see that the location of ejection pin marks has not been changed since 2014 when I built mine ;D But I have covered that space... because I gave up the task to discover what all those lines were, and where did they go. Since that time I have a feeling that Salmson was the most complex aircraft of WW1. I am looking forward to see your interpretation, Mike.
Hi Przemol,
You're Salmson is a great build.
I've started on preparing the bay for detailing.
Removed the pre-moulded detail and cut the openings in the fuselage frame for the cables etc,
Mike
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Hi all,
I've been working on the areas of the model that will remain exposed.
This included twin crossed bracing wires, electrical terminal box, a fuselage rib and electrical wire conduits and pipes.
Next is to add the electrical wires,
Mike
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Very fine results, Mike.
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Excellent work Mike! This should be very convincing when complete!
RAGIII
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I don't know why it's not a more popular model. It was a joy to
build and I think you are doing a wonderful job, Mike!
Cheers,
Ernie :)
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Looking great -I have to agree it's a very interesting aircraft, that somehow does not get built often. Almost like the Rumpler C.IV -such a pretty and elegant machine, yet those kits hardly seem to get built!
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Hi all,
The exposed fuselage side bay is finished as far as I can.
There are no drawings or photographs of the is area on a French Salmson 2-A2, apart from aircraft that are either being built or that have crashed.
Therefore there's no 'complete' French aircraft detail available.
However, there is a photograph of an American Salmson 2-A2 that does show this area complete.
Although the American aircraft were fitted with a Type 3-US generator, which was different from the French version, the detail in their bays look very similar.
Therefore I detailed the bay with electrical conduit and wires, tubes and what I assume were aircraft batteries (the observers wireless had its own battery).
The detail is a combination of scratch parts, 'ANYZ’ 0.5 mm silver braided line (AN011) and ‘MFH’ black 0.4 mm flexible tube (P-961).
Decals used were spares from previous model builds.
Out of necessity, the added detail may not be accurate, but at least is does represent that bay area.
Mike
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Mike,
Your work is very convincing. This is going to be another great build and I look forward to downloading
your PDF when it's available.
Kevin
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Excellent Mike. Like Kevin said, Very Convincing!
RAGIII
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^^ What they said! I love that area, it looks so good. Bravo on some fine detail work!
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Fantastic work on that compartment!
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Your detail work is going very nicely, Mike. The reference material is top notch.
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Incredible detail work Mike, truly "top drawer"! This one is really going to be a stunner when completed.
Keep up the magnificent work!
Cheers,
Lance
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Very nicely done, Mike. So convincing.
Cheers,
Gary
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Great work Mike, this is going to be wonderful!
Andrew
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Wow, some stunning work and great detail, Mike! I'm enjoying this complex build enormously! Regards, Marc
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Splendid modelling. Not my favourite aeroplane, but this one is coming along beautifully.
Sandy
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Hi all,
Just a quick update.
I forgot to fit the generator drive belt.
To represent the generator drive belt, I cut a strip of photo-etch 1.0 mm wide, then annealed it (softened over a flame).
It was then bent around a 1.8 mm diameter drill to form a semi-circle.
It was then brush painted with ‘Tamiya' Rubber Black (XF18).
Once dry it was secured in position around the forward shaft of the generator, with the two ends onto the round ‘pulley’ on the rear of the engine.
Mike
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Mike,
Absolutely stunning work! The detail is amazing on this aircraft, wonderfully presented.
Grant
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Did you turn her over and put a volt meter on the battery terminals already? That looks fabulous!
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Oh wow, good catch Mike! I should've caught that myself before now ;D
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Great eye for the detail on this busy airframe. I think you definitely got the look of the foto quite right!
Andreas
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Damn, that is nice work Mike!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
I've been fighting off a cold and cough (not Covid) for the past few weeks, so I've not posted updates.
However, here's and update for the Salmson.
I've used a combination of 'Tamiya' acrylic and 'Hataka' lacquer paints for the external camouflage scheme.
This was all airbrushed with 'Alclad' Aqua Gloss 600 for applying the decals.
I cut templates to create the various shapes required then transferred them onto the 'Aviattic’ Linen Weave effect (ATT32236) decal sheets.
These were applied after which the kit decals were added.
Everything was given a coat of 'Alclad' Light Sheen (ALC311) lacquer as the base for applying weathering, which I'll be applying next,
Mike
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Fabulous job on the details Mike and that is a cool motif !
Alexis
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Gorgeous painting and decaling Mike!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
Just a few updates.
The wheels have 'Aviattic' linen weave effect decal applied.
The landing gear is painted ready to assemble.
The two Lewis and single Vickers machine guns are prepared for fitting.
The 'Proper Plane' laminated wood propeller has got it decals and semi-matte clear coat.
All of these have yet to be weathered etc,
Mike
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Mike,
All your models are gorgeous and this one might be at the top. I love the detail photos you post.
Stuart
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Beautiful detail painting of the small parts/struts. The Machine guns look awesome!
RAGIII
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Amazing detail! You'd expect some mistakes to show up with the kind of magnification you're using, but no... it's still perfect! Utterly amazing!
/Fredrik
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Hi all,
Last update for 2021.
Landing gear fitted.
'GasPatch' 1:48th scale turnbuckles with 0.12 blue coloured mono-filament and 0.4 - 0.5 mm diameter brass tube.
Tubes and barrels of turnbuckles painted with 'Tamiya' Medium Blue (XF18).
Mike
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Great progress, I like those blue rigging lines.
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Nicely done as always and I too like the blue rigging wires!
RAGIII
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In agreement with the others , top notch Mike
Alexis
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Hi All,
The twin bracing wires between the front and rear cabane struts are pre-rigged.
Also the win wires between the rear cabane struts.
The turnbuckles are fitted on the ends of the lines, but the lines are left loose at the anchor points.
This should make it easier to final rig these lines once the upper wing is fitted,
Mike
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The blue wires really pop! Beautiful work, as always!
/Fredrik
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Hi all,
The underside of the upper wing is now pre-rigged.
This covers the twin flying and landing wires, twin cabane bracing wires, drag wires and interplane incidence wires.
The turnbuckles are fixed on the lines, but the anchor point loops are left loose for final fitting once the wing is fitted.
Now it's on to pre-rigging the aileron, elevator and rudder control horns.
Also the twin bracing wires for the fin bracing,
Mike
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You have been busy little spider !
Alexis
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Rigging, rigging... Lovely! ;)
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That will be a very beautiful Salmson, as one can expect from your work!
Cheers,
Frank
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Outstanding and a very good how-to, when I start my Salmson (in a future, far, far away)
Bye,
Manni
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Hi all,
The flight controls are now pre-rigged.
The control horns for the ailerons, rudder and elevator.
Now it's on to pre-rigging the fin/tail plane twin bracing wires,
Mike
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Excellent work on the pre rigging Mike!
RAGIII
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Itsy bitsy spider climbed up the wing strut .......
Looking good Mike !
Alexis
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This is some beautiful and intricate modelling Mike! I do love the effects and the complex but precisely executed rigging... Regards, Marc
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Inspirational stuff for my Pup and Spad!
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Hi all,
The upper wing fitted,
Mike
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Awesome!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The twin flying and landing wires are now fitted, as are the incidence wires between the interplane struts..
I still have the two drag wires and two side bracing wires (each side of the aircraft) to fit.
Now the 32 separate infill strips between the flying and land wires to do,
Mike
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I'm so unused to blue rigging that each photo of your progress takes me a few seconds to process - that's not a comment on your rigging skills, just of my ignorance of the type!
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I'm so unused to blue rigging that each photo of your progress takes me a few seconds to process - that's not a comment on your rigging skills, just of my ignorance of the type!
A question was put to Richard Alexander from Wingnut Wings - his reply:
"Yes the structural rigging wires (but not control cables) on French WW1 aircraft were very frequently painted for protection. The favourite colour for painting anything metal on French aircraft at the time was blue. You can still find blue rigging on we preserved and restored WW1 French aircraft like Caudron G.4 at the Smithsonian".
It may be only certain French aircraft had blue rigging, although some photographs apparently show a mixture of blue and natural metal and others with blue fitting but natural metal wires.
I've gone for blue rigging as that's what is shown in the WNW colour plates in their instruction manual.
Also other notable artist, such as Bob Pearson show blue rigging.
The French also painted the edges around wings and tail unit on many aircraft with colours such as blue.
Right or wrong, I'm not changing it all now :o
Mike
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That blue rigging does truly stand out. Fine work!
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As always your rigging looks fantastic. As for the blue...I like it! Not sure on how widespread the use of blue painted wires was but it makes an interesting change!
RAGIII
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Right or wrong , it does add a striking visual .
Alexis
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Hi all,
The blue rigging line does look vivid at the moment.
However it does tone down when airbrushed with a semi-matte lacquer.
Besides the twin flying, landing and fin bracing wires will (if I can pull it off) be covered.
They had wood strip inserts fitted between them, which were then wrapped in linen (CDL or blue I assume).
Mike
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Mike -
Wow- great progress!
This is starting to look the dog's do dah's now. Looking forward to seeing this one completed.
Regards
Dave
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I am lookimg forward to seeing the filled and wrapped wires Mik. I chose to do one that didn't have the twin wires filled and wrapped as I was too intimidated to try at that point in My Modeling .
RAGIII
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A question was put to Richard Alexander from Wingnut Wings - his reply:
"Yes the structural rigging wires (but not control cables) on French WW1 aircraft were very frequently painted for protection. The favourite colour for painting anything metal on French aircraft at the time was blue. You can still find blue rigging on we preserved and restored WW1 French aircraft like Caudron G.4 at the Smithsonian".
(...)I've gone for blue rigging as that's what is shown in the WNW colour plates in their instruction manual.
I tend to believe Richard and Wingnut Wings know/knew what they're on about so I have trust in them. I think it's just that the Salmson types had never been on my radar before. You learn every day!
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Hi all,
The tail unit is done.
That includes the rudder and elevator control cables, the twin bracing wires for the fin and the fin and tail plane support struts.
These twin wires, like the flying and landing wires, will need infills and wrapping.
Mike
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Awesome Mike!
RAGIII
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Wow, the closer the look, the more realistic it seems.
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Hi all,
I've fitted the linen wrapped infills between the pairs of flying, landing and fin bracing wires.
I tried my previous methods of using baking parchment paper or 0.2 mm thick plastic card strips.
However, the length of these pairs of wires are long and they flexed too much.
Therefore, I cut strips of 'Aviattic' CDL decal to 1.75 width of each pair of wires.
The water I used to release the decals was cold, as this tends to release the decal in a more rigid state than warm water would.
That made it easier to position the decal strips onto the wires.
The decals were laid centrally onto the top sides of the wires and left to allow the residual decal adhesive to grip to the wires.
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/Salmson2A2/infills1.jpg)
I then applied 'DACO Products' strong setting solution across the top of the decal strip.
As the decal started to soften, I teased the edges under the wires to fully wrap them with the decal.
Not easy but I think it should look OK once I've painted the decals.
This is necessary as the decal is thin and the blue rigging wires shown through.
Then it's onto finishing the rigging (drag and side wires),
Mike
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That is truly outstanding work Mike, looks excellent!!
Andrew
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That is definitely well beyond my patience to decals. Amazing idea and the result!
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Really outstanding results Mike. Better than the Other ones you have done and those were great 👍
RAGIII
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Really outstanding results Mike. Better than the Other ones you have done and those were great 👍
RAGIII
Second Ricks comments
Alexis
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Don't mind my dumbstruck expression, it's due to 1) learning of wire wrapping after thinking I'd seen it all and b) your execution of same. Beautiful!
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That is a beautiful and perfectly detailed model, where you can "zoom in" and find always new things!
Cheers,
Frank
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Don't mind my dumbstruck expression, it's due to 1) learning of wire wrapping after thinking I'd seen it all and b) your execution of same. Beautiful!
No worries - I know that no criticism was intended and certainly none was take :D,
Mike
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You learn something new every day! How neat! What a clever idea, and well executed by yourself Mike.
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Awesome work there, Mike. Looks realistic.
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Hats off, this is an impressive way to deal with this modelling challenge!
Andreas
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Great idea using decals on the wires. If faced with the challenge myself I am sure I would have wrapped foil round them but I will instead follow your lead and use decal strip.
Alan.
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Wow. This is very impressive. The decal hack is a great idea. I will try to copy that, when I start mine.
Bye Manni
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Mike,
Each new post impresses me with your continuing ability to add the missing details no matter how minute.
Stuart
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Hi all,
At last the rigging is complete.
I've added the side bracing wires from the fuselage to the underside of the upper wing.
Also the upper and lower drag wires from the engine bearer frame to the underside of the upper wing and leading edge of the lower wings.
The flying, landing and fin bracing wire infills have also been painted with the same colour as the undersides of the wings and fuselage.
I chose CDL as it's difficult to know if these infills were CDL or blue (as for the rigging wires).
My assumption is that blue would has stood out too much against the camouflage surfaces, so I opted for CDL.
So now it's onto the four wireless wires from the cabane struts to the underside of the upper wing.
Also the fuel tank vent pipe,
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/Salmson2A2/rigdone1.jpg)
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Just beautiful
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Awesome work as always Mike!
Your attention to detail and patience is to be admired.
Cheers,
Hugh
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Hi all,
I've added the vent pipe from the fuel tank, using 0.4 mm diameter black tube from 'MFH'.
Also the four wireless wires, made from annealed and twisted 0.2 mm diameter copper wire.
Now onto the front end parts,
Mike
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She looks exquisite, Mike, and those extra details in your most recent post really set it off.
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Hi all,
I've now added the pilot's Vickers machine gu ('GasPatch replacement), gun sight, ring site, mirror and coolant header tank.
Also the wind driven pump/generator, with pipe from 0.4 mm diameter black tube from 'MFH'.
Just the ailerons and control cables wind screens and observers weapons to add, then it's onto the figures,
Mike
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Stunning rigging work Mike. This could be the Best of all you have done...and like I said earlier that is saying a lot!
RAGIII
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I agree. Amazing detail.
Alan.
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Hi all,
The aileron control cables have been added.
The mono-filament used is 0.08 mm diameter and is left clear.
Although the structural rigging was painted blue, the control cables were left unpainted.
I assume this was due to the cables being regularly adjusted and maintained.
Now onto the observers weapons,
Mike
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Just beautiful work Mike, truly beautiful! The aftermarket bits and your own added detail really make this special.
Another newbie question about the blue rigging and control horns: was this explicitly a Salmson trait, or one common to other French types of the period?
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More excellence Mike!
RAGIII
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Just beautiful work Mike, truly beautiful! The aftermarket bits and your own added detail really make this special.
Another newbie question about the blue rigging and control horns: was this explicitly a Salmson trait, or one common to other French types of the period?
Hi Zac,
Certainly some French aircraft had blue painted structural rigging, like this Salmson and others, such as Caudron and Nieuport.
How widespread this was across French aircraft manufacturers and how long it continued is debatable.
As with this time period, predominately black and white photographs and the type of film used, make it difficult for mere modelers to determine exact colours.
Unless it is specified by better and more accurate research, it can be down to guesswork.
Bleu de France (Blue of France) is a colour traditionally used to represent France.
Blue has been used in the heraldry of the French monarchy since at least the 12th century, with the golden fleurs-de-lis of the kings always set on a blue (heraldic "azure") background.
A brighter version, based on the blue of the French Tricolour, is used in modern times, particularly in a sporting context.
French national teams in all sports will normally use blue as their main colour.
Also, Blue is France's national racing colour and several French motorsport teams have used it,
Mike
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Hi all,
The observers twin Lewis machine guns assembly is now done.
I replaced the kit supplied weapons with 'GasPatch' weapons.
This required modifying the kit supplied gun mounting and adding both the cross bracing between the gun handles and the spreader bar between the breach blocks.
The gun mount spindle is 0.4 mm diameter tube located through holes drilled in the gun mounting lugs.
The cross bracing is 'EZ' line (heavy) routed through 0.3 mm diameter holes drilled diagonally the the ends of the handles.
The twin bungee lift cords around the gun support tube are also 'EZ' line routed through 0.4 mm diameter holes drilled through both sides of the tube pivots at the base ring.
Just the two windscreens to go and the model itself is complete.
Then it's onto the figures,
Mike
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The Machine guns and Mount look amazing Mike!
RAGIII
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The guns and mount look exquisite, lovely work!
Hi Zac,
Certainly some French aircraft had blue painted structural rigging, like this Salmson and others, such as Caudron and Nieuport.
How widespread this was across French aircraft manufacturers and how long it continued is debatable.
As with this time period, predominately black and white photographs and the type of film used, make it difficult for mere modelers to determine exact colours.
Unless it is specified by better and more accurate research, it can be down to guesswork,
Mike
Thanks Mike. As I said earlier, until this build I had never heard of blue rigging so you're giving me quite an education!
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:)
Alexis
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Hi all,
The four figures are now done.
These figures are from 'Copper State Models', although two were German ground crew figures.
I modified one of those heavily as he will be stood in the observers cockpit.
The heads were replaced on both by changing French heads around and using one head from 'Hornet Models'.
The figures were painted using a combination of 'Tamiya' and 'AK Interactive' acrylics.
The model is complete now, apart from the display case and a replacement propeller front hub (wrong type fitted).
Once again, many thanks for your support and encouragement throughout this build.
I will post completed photographs in a week or so,
Mike
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Excellent work on the figures Mike.
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The completed model shots are now up in the Completed Models thread.
Thanks for all of you support and comments - appreciated,
Mike
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Really outstanding work!
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Kinda feel sorry for the guy with the grey hair , note how I said kinda ;)
Your figures are fab Mike , looking forward on seeing them nestle in place , your style really captures the over all feel and emotions . Love it !
Alexis