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Title: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: ViperDriver on October 09, 2021, 01:13:27 PM
Hello all,
I have recently wrapped up the interior of my USAS camel after starting it back in August. It's been a bit of a struggle so far with having to repaint a few parts I wasn't happy with. I used the HGW seatbelts and used copper wire to wrap the control stick hang grips to give them some raised details. I also managed to snap off the back two struts, but it looks like it should be an easy fix once I align the top wing. Looking forward to moving on to the fuselage. Cheers!
- Patrick

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Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: hrcoleman66 on October 09, 2021, 02:05:53 PM
Nice job!  This instrument faces look awesome!

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: rhwinter on October 09, 2021, 04:36:00 PM
Yes, indeed, looking great so far! Will follow your build eagerly.
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: DaveB on October 09, 2021, 06:59:47 PM
Your off to a great start, Patrick!

Lovely work on your instrument panel.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: RAGIII on October 10, 2021, 02:28:55 AM
Your interior looks Awesome! Welcome to the Camel Broken Strut club from a fellow Member  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: kensar on October 10, 2021, 09:24:41 AM
I never get tired of those Camel drivers!
You're off to a great start. 

Are those sink marks on the top rail at the cockpit opening?  On a WNW kit?

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 ;D
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: Ernie on October 10, 2021, 11:13:39 AM
Amazing work on the cockpit, Patrick! I'll be sure to follow the
build.  Well done!

Best regards,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: lcarroll on October 10, 2021, 11:37:00 AM
   That's a beautiful job on the instrument panel Patrick, in fact the entire interior is outstanding. Snapped off struts you say? With my record in that regard all I can possibly say is, as Rick puts it, welcome to the club! Keep up the excellent standard, she's looking like a really outstanding Model already!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: PrzemoL on October 10, 2021, 07:03:01 PM
Lovely interior!

Are those sink marks on the top rail at the cockpit opening?  On a WNW kit?

 ;D


Yes, they are. I remember covering those rails with an alu foil bits on my builds.
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: bobs_buckles on October 11, 2021, 06:39:09 AM
Love the IP Patrick! The rest ain't half bad either!

Keep up the good work.
Cheers,
Bob
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: ViperDriver on October 11, 2021, 08:38:19 AM
I never get tired of those Camel drivers!
You're off to a great start. 

Are those sink marks on the top rail at the cockpit opening?  On a WNW kit?

 ;D

Alas it is... didn't even notice it until now... glad I did before I closed up the fuselage. Thanks!!
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: RichieW on October 12, 2021, 10:15:36 PM
Patrick that is a stunning interior, this is going to be a bit special judging by the superb work you have done so far!

Richie
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: macsporran on October 13, 2021, 12:53:19 AM
Marvellous work
Sandy
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: ViperDriver on October 14, 2021, 10:56:57 AM
After closing up the fuselage and preparing to paint, I have a choice to make. I have decided on the two schemes below, but am wondering which to do. On one hand, there has not been many Blue Nose "18" Camels created from this kit (or at least an absence of many pictures of blue nose camels floating around the internet). However this is an interwar Camel with an unremarkable pedigree. On the other hand, the Red Nose Camel "4" has been modeled extensively as there are 4 or 5 great renditions I have seen, including one in person at this years US IMPS Nats. Camel "4" saw action during the war, and has a more impressive background than "18". I can also attest none of the machines I fly on the daily have any kills to their names either, yet this doesn't make them any less impressive of machines. Decisions.... suggestions welcome!

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Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: PrzemoL on October 14, 2021, 07:10:03 PM
I would go for blue as I prefer choosing colour schemes not done by others.
And if you wish to have a more man-of-war Camel, you can later build a second one in British livery, one flown by so many WW1 aces..
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: RichieW on October 15, 2021, 04:37:35 AM
I prefer the blue too. No special reason, I just like the colour!

Richie
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: kensar on October 15, 2021, 11:28:12 PM
Take the road less traveled.
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: ViperDriver on November 01, 2021, 10:24:45 AM
Debating whether this chipping is too much, or rather if it looks authentic. I know camels were typically not in service very long, and a post war camel perhaps wouldn't have as much wear as its veteran counterparts... thoughts?

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Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: Alexis on November 01, 2021, 11:32:48 AM
Personally , I like it just the way it is . You have just the right amount with out going over board which is easily done


Alexis
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: 2996 Victor on November 01, 2021, 09:00:48 PM
+1 for the chipping as it is: its not too much, particularly for the larger scale, and says "a used but not abused" post-War aeroplane.

Cheers,
Mark
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: kensar on November 01, 2021, 10:05:13 PM
The chipping looks good.  Even though these planes were not in service long, they got beat up quickly and the paint quality was not what it is today.
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: ViperDriver on November 08, 2021, 12:09:24 PM
Grrr... got a ghost seam running the length of my camel.... suggestions on how to fix? Or should I just ignore it? The picture doesn't exactly do it justice. It's worse in person  :( ???

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Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: Ernie on November 08, 2021, 12:41:11 PM
I think the chipping looks just about right.  Nice!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: gbrivio on November 08, 2021, 04:25:50 PM
Nice interior work. I'm not a big fan of chipping, but looks good, not too little not too much.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 08, 2021, 07:51:57 PM
Grrr... got a ghost seam running the length of my camel.... suggestions on how to fix? Or should I just ignore it? The picture doesn't exactly do it justice. It's worse in person  :( ???

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Scribe the seam and fill with CA glue mixed with a little dark pigment.
Allow to cure, but not set up like concrete. Polish, prime...good to go!

Bob
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: Manni on November 08, 2021, 07:59:44 PM
I think you should ignore the seam. How many times do you look at the underside of the plane? You could also try to conceal the seam with a little bit of dust and mud sprinkles.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: RAGIII on November 08, 2021, 11:54:40 PM
Sorry I missed an update but I think the chipping looks fine! As for the seam, it all depends on what you are satisfied with! If you feel you must eliminate the seam then Bob's suggestion sounds good.
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: gedmundson on November 09, 2021, 01:01:05 AM
Patrick - I have to say your cockpit is exquisite and beautifully detailed. The chipped paint look definitely works "as is" in my humble opinion. Although leaving that bottom seam alone since it is hardly noticeable is one option, if it looks worse in person as you say - reworking it may give you piece of mind, and the extra time taken will be worth it in the end.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: ViperDriver on November 13, 2021, 12:38:19 PM
I appreciate all the responses regarding how to fix the ghost seam on the bottom of the fuselage. After cleaning that up, I painted the rest of the aircraft and applied the HGW wood grain decals made specifically for the camel. Unfortunately, unlike previous HGW woodgrain decals I've used these were slightly smaller than the panels they were designed for. No worries. What I should have done is mixed oil paint to match the tone of the decals to fill in the gaps. What I did however was try to use slivers of decals left over on the cockpit decking that were unused to fill the gaps, which didn't conform to the shape of the camel and left me left than satisfied.... so for a few hours tonight I scrapped of the decals and lacquer-thinner'd away the resulting mix of decal glue and Mr Surfacer 1500... no worries... time for new primer and good ole' oil paint wood grain!

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Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: rhwinter on November 13, 2021, 06:01:06 PM
👍👍👍
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: jeroen_R90S on November 13, 2021, 10:09:37 PM
Drastic measures are sometimes the only thing that feels right... I'm sure it'll eventually look great -which reminds me, I still have this kit mostly cleaned up from the sprues ready for detail painting... I love the interiour, too :)
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: lcarroll on November 14, 2021, 03:20:18 AM
    Very nice recovery "Viper". Been meaning to ask, what is your Call Sign; up here in the North we don't get one until hitting the Operational level. My compliments on finding the time to indulge in the Hobby while so busily employed!
   Nice work so far on the Camel!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: ViperDriver on November 14, 2021, 07:05:46 AM
    Very nice recovery "Viper". Been meaning to ask, what is your Call Sign; up here in the North we don't get one until hitting the Operational level. My compliments on finding the time to indulge in the Hobby while so busily employed!
   Nice work so far on the Camel!
Cheers,
Lance

Thank you! Had a few during my training.... first I was Popo... now I'm Chum (callsign of the newer pilots in the squadron). Should have my final callsign in a few months. Well, final as long as any major transgressions in the air (or the bar) aren't committed!
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: ViperDriver on November 14, 2021, 07:21:22 AM
Wood grain fixed! Primed in black, added MRP Earth Yellow highlights, blended in Tamiya matt brown, and finally a thinned raw umber oil wash for wood graining. Sealed in with MRP semi-gloss.

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Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: KiwiZac on November 14, 2021, 10:12:23 AM
Nice save!
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: RAGIII on November 15, 2021, 12:28:03 AM
The rework of the wood is better than the decals, IMHO!  Well Done 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 15, 2021, 12:59:42 AM
The rework of the wood is better than the decals, IMHO!  Well Done 8)
RAGIII

+1

VB  ;)
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: FAf on November 16, 2021, 05:38:09 AM
The rework of the wood is better than the decals, IMHO!  Well Done 8)
RAGIII

+1

VB  ;)

+2!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: Ernie on November 16, 2021, 01:02:40 PM
Really nice work on the woodgrain!  Better than the decals in my mind.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: hrcoleman66 on November 16, 2021, 03:15:16 PM
Really nicely done on the Wood effect!  Just how I would imagine it to be in real life.

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: PrzemoL on November 17, 2021, 08:57:31 PM
Great progress. And fine save, which I will also call improvement  - I do not like wood decals at all, painted is much better.
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: 2996 Victor on November 17, 2021, 09:29:26 PM
The wood effect looks excellent, very convincing and definitely a technique to be tried out on my own builds.

Cheers,
Mark
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: Alexis on November 19, 2021, 08:48:05 AM
Super work on your build so far , love your wood paneling



Alexis
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: ViperDriver on December 12, 2021, 06:58:15 AM
Work on the camel has continued, albeit slowly. Decals gave me some fuss, especially the lower wing roundels where no amount of micro sol seemed to want to prevent them from bubbling and settling. Took some patience, but it is fixed (mostly ha!). Lightly sprayed clear smoke over the rib tapes to bring out some detail. Currently dry fitting the struts before doing some light oil paint rendering on the fuselage and wings to give the bird some weathering. Hopefully will have it completely done, rigging and all, sometime in January. Cheers!

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Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: RAGIII on December 12, 2021, 07:19:31 AM
Glad to see you progressing on this build! Your Camel is looking Lovely! Along with the other Camel builds yours is inspiring Me to think about doing My WNW USAS Camel next!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: ViperDriver on January 17, 2022, 04:36:38 AM
Completed the Sopwith Camel USAS after 5 months of work. I think my next modeling related purchase will be an actual camera to take better pictures with... so phone images will have to suffice for now. The weathering was done with oils. Hardest part was reattaching the rear two fuselage struts that had broken off at the beginning of the project. Stepping away from WW1 birds for a bit as my next build is a F-16. Thanks for looking!

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Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: KiwiZac on January 18, 2022, 04:25:44 AM
Bravo ViperDriver, she looks fantastic. I think you nailed the underside oil staining!
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: WD on January 18, 2022, 04:39:56 AM
Very nice sir!  I do like your weathering on the underside.

WD
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: bobs_buckles on January 18, 2022, 05:01:44 AM
Excellent Camel, Viper  ;)

Top notch work!

Cheers,
Bob  ;)
Title: Re: WnW Sopwith Camel USAS
Post by: RAGIII on January 18, 2022, 01:23:30 PM
That is an absolutely beautiful Camel!
RAGIII