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Title: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: macsporran on September 15, 2021, 08:34:14 AM
https://www.kotare-models.com/products/k32001-132-spitfire-mkia-late

First announced kit is going to be a 1/32 BoB Mk1a Spitfire.
(Hope there still might be some WWI in the mix but it makes a lot of sense to start with a "banker".)
Sandy
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: Dave Brewer on September 15, 2021, 10:53:07 AM
Ahhh, I'm just finishing backdating the Revell IIa to this very airframe, with help from Barracuda and Southern Expo decals.
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: PrzemoL on September 15, 2021, 05:53:47 PM
I wish all the luck to Kotare. Yet, I am not interested in WW2 32nd scale models, so I will refrain myself from getting it. Well, yes, I'm disappointed but I was afraid it will be a surprise of this sort.
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: loopyloop on September 15, 2021, 06:17:03 PM
' Banker' well I am sure it will do well as after talking to Airfix reps they tell me that the majority of suggestions re a new kit is 'just do a new spitfire'. Money rules and anyway I've got loads of kits and still no Phantom. ;)
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: Borsos on September 15, 2021, 08:26:15 PM
Ahhh, I'm just finishing backdating the Revell IIa to this very airframe, with help from Barracuda and Southern Expo decals.

Oh well….how true! I didn’t  start yet, but I also have the barracuda resin parts and a Revell kit at the ready…
However, I am looking forward in anticipation to every 1:32 scale release which is well done (and I think we can expect this from Kotare).

Andreas
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 16, 2021, 12:12:38 AM
I will certainly be supporting Kotare with the purchase of the M.1 Spit. I also hope (plead!) that they produce the Hawker Hurricane, God knows we need one!

Cheers,
Bob
 ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: Umlaufmotor on September 16, 2021, 05:43:55 AM
Bob my old biker friend, to maintain balance, I'm hoping for a BoB Bf 109 Emil as a second Kotare model   ;)

Servus
Bertl
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 16, 2021, 09:28:01 PM
Bob my old biker friend, to maintain balance, I'm hoping for a BoB Bf 109 Emil as a second Kotare model   ;)

Servus
Bertl

Yes, my friend, I couldn't agree more.
I'm sure they will get around to the BF 109...but not BEFORE!!! the Hurricane  ;D ;D

Hope you're well.
Keep riding.

Bob  ;)
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: RichieW on September 17, 2021, 12:23:17 AM
I will certainly be supporting Kotare with the purchase of the M.1 Spit. I also hope (plead!) that they produce the Hawker Hurricane, God knows we need one!

Cheers,
Bob
 ::) ::) ::)

1/32 Hurricane Mk 1, yes please! I am definitely going to buy the Spitfire. I seriously believe that if Tamiya had a released a 1/32 Mk1 Spit that it would have outsold their MkIX. It's a great choice for a 1st release.

Richie
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: dr 1 ace on September 17, 2021, 05:24:11 AM
Bob my old biker friend, to maintain balance, I'm hoping for a BoB Bf 109 Emil as a second Kotare model   ;)

Servus
Bertl

Bertl,
I'm pretty sure you will be pleasantly surprised- a bf 109 is a sure bet for a new company as a companion to the Mk 1a. 

My choice for a 3rd release would be a P-51B/C

Ed

Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: Alexis on September 17, 2021, 11:24:56 AM
Didn't Fly models do a Hurrie in 32 scale ?

Will be interesting to see this on built on how it compares to the Tamiya kit for detail and assembly . Now a P-51B would be nice , the trump kit has a lot of ....well ..issues .


Alexis
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: jamieg on September 17, 2021, 02:09:24 PM
Ah well, I guess this means they aren't going to do WWI subjects. Too bad. I've built all of the WWII aircraft I ever intend to build. Good  luck to them, but they ain't going to get any of my money...
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: loopyloop on September 17, 2021, 05:51:55 PM
They won't get mine either but it will get interesting as looking at this broadly they will have to compete in a bigger world. Eduard have released a 1/32 ME109E, so lets see what happens next.
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: jeroen_R90S on September 18, 2021, 12:58:44 AM
A very good first subject I suppose, but not one I'm likely to run out and get... I can see it's broad appeal and of course wish Kotare all the best!

Didn't Dragon/DML do a (good) Bf109E? I saw one advertised some time ago on our local equivalent of Ebay.
I've read the Eduard one isn't all that great?
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: Alexis on September 18, 2021, 03:38:11 AM
Jeroen , Yes Dragon/DML under the cyber hobby label released a 32 scale 109e 4-7 but I don't recall any earlier version released by them .

I have that kit in my stash and is far better then Eduards kit , not sure if Eduard has updated their tooling or have a new kit out but I will stick with the DML kit , price was 50 bucks CDN at the time I pick it up and for the level of detail it is farhead of the eduard kit .

Alexis

Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: RAGIII on September 18, 2021, 06:34:07 AM
Jeroen , Yes Dragon/DML under the cyber hobby label released a 32 scale 109e 4-7 but I don't recall any earlier version released by them .

I have that kit in my stash and is far better then Eduards kit , not sure if Eduard has updated their tooling or have a new kit out but I will stick with the DML kit , price was 50 bucks CDN at the time I pick it up and for the level of detail it is farhead of the eduard kit .

Alexis

Yep, the Cyber Hobby 109 is the best of the 1/32nd E Model versions. I have built two of the Eduard kits with some corrections but someday might try to acquire the DML/Cyber Hobby kit. As for the Spitfire, I think doing a "New Tool" Mk.1a is a good choice for a new company. I might get one to do in 19 squadron markings. ( As it is Next year who knows if I will still be around and breathing  ;D) The Hurricane is also a good idea although Fly and PCM both did one they were not great as far as I have read fit wise. I wish Kotare the best of luck but as it is not WW1 I am not sure I will get one of the SPits. Really depends on the price for this retired guy  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: pepperman42 on September 18, 2021, 01:58:36 PM
Don't discount the WWI possibility - half the WNW crew is involved in Kotare

Steve
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: jamieg on September 19, 2021, 12:11:40 PM
Don't discount the WWI possibility - half the WNW crew is involved in Kotare

Steve

I am not discounting the possibility of them doing WWI subjects. But I am approaching my 67th birthday. I don't know how much longer I will be building models, though I continue to buy. A simple statement from the company as to its focus would be useful. I am perfectly content with the WNW approach of not always revealing specific subjects, but even they gave a sort of mission statement at the start to let us know what they were about. I actually delighted in the consternation that WNW release announcements produced in the community, as the 'profit must dictate' folks were thrown for  loops by kits of unusual aircraft announced from left field. A Spitfire is completely out of my ballpark though...
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: Gisbod on September 19, 2021, 05:23:06 PM
If they’re the quality of Wingnuts then it’s got to be a positive whatever the subject.

If I was picking a first subject to get the company up and running, a Spit Mk1 would be a logical choice. I’m not sure Wingnuts were ever in it to make money, but this group would obviously need to. I don’t blame them.

It would be great to see it in the flesh. Maybe even the Lancaster could be resurrected?

Guy
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: pepperman42 on September 19, 2021, 11:00:08 PM
Definitely the safe route to an extent. I will gladly buy one. My hope is, with the staff they have, the know how to access the WNW best sellers may be there. I wouldn't expect a grand slam of kits all at once but if they are successful enough to continue on maybe a sprinkling of DVII's, and Alby's (insert your favs here) might be a possibility. To me a Spitfire is a bit of a mission statement - a conservative, safe route. I would suspect a Hurricane 1 would be the next safe bet using the philosophy they seem to currently have - well known subjects that have been slightly ignored by the mainstream. Jamieg - you have a solid 33 years left to build models - at least that's what people say when they see my stash "Geez Steve you'd have to live to a hundred to build all these"....not enough 0's says I........

Pipe Dreamin' Steve 
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: jamieg on September 20, 2021, 06:44:30 AM
Definitely the safe route to an extent. I will gladly buy one. My hope is, with the staff they have, the know how to access the WNW best sellers may be there. I wouldn't expect a grand slam of kits all at once but if they are successful enough to continue on maybe a sprinkling of DVII's, and Alby's (insert your favs here) might be a possibility. To me a Spitfire is a bit of a mission statement - a conservative, safe route. I would suspect a Hurricane 1 would be the next safe bet using the philosophy they seem to currently have - well known subjects that have been slightly ignored by the mainstream. Jamieg - you have a solid 33 years left to build models - at least that's what people say when they see my stash "Geez Steve you'd have to live to a hundred to build all these"....not enough 0's says I........

Pipe Dreamin' Steve

My eyesight is getting worse, I injured my dominant hand in May and now I've acquired lower back pain. At this rate, I won't be able to build in the very near future. ;-) You know when the leader yells "Do you want to live forever?" in all the heroic movies? Right now, I would probably jump right up and join him/her/it.

Jamie
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: lcarroll on September 20, 2021, 12:50:32 PM
Jamie,
    I'm approaching my 78th and without going into a whining session let's just say my health is not very good and not great to support fine work and model building in general. Having said that I believe it's all about the fun of the hobby for me; as long as I enjoy it I'll keep plugging away at my stash and like Steve assume I'll still be doing so at 100! (Ya gotta believe!!)
    Keep at it as long as you can, it's good for the soul!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: loopyloop on September 20, 2021, 07:15:56 PM
Dead right Lance' keep plugging along' though at 68 I do need magic glasses and at the start of the corvid crisis I , crashed running for the tram and broke my arm. So notwithstanding I built a Roden 1/32 Seimens with one arm( the wrong one) and haven't looked back.
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: Dave W on September 21, 2021, 06:33:22 PM
I'll go against the general hobby trend these days and say I would be happy with a quality but simple kit without the over-engineered teeny tiny details that cost an arm and a leg and just dilute the model building experience.

Whatever Kotare do will depend entirely on what budget the company's owner allocates to the staff. The fact the staff includes some Wingnuts DNA does not mean the business has Sir Peter Jackson's budget. He has no connection with Kotare and that's official.

We can be assured the Kotare Spitfire will be stunning but I hope it's affordable and a straightforward build.

And for Gisbod - Guy I am told the ex Wingnuts Lancaster tooling has been sold to a company in China which is now preparing to produce it, but first has to create an instructions booklet from the parts. The sale of the tooling did not include the instructions.

There's no word on whether any other Wingnut moulds have been sold or licensed to other companies but I suspect not.

But don't expect Wingnut kits under the Kotare brand. Sir Peter Jackson owns all the copyrights of the Wingnuts catalogue.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: ThePenguin on September 23, 2021, 01:57:44 PM
I'll go against the general hobby trend these days and say I would be happy with a quality but simple kit without the over-engineered teeny tiny details that cost an arm and a leg and just dilute the model building experience.

Whatever Kotare do will depend entirely on what budget the company's owner allocates to the staff. The fact the staff includes some Wingnuts DNA does not mean the business has Sir Peter Jackson's budget. He has no connection with Kotare and that's official.

We can be assured the Kotare Spitfire will be stunning but I hope it's affordable and a straightforward build.

And for Gisbod - Guy I am told the ex Wingnuts Lancaster tooling has been sold to a company in China which is now preparing to produce it, but first has to create an instructions booklet from the parts. The sale of the tooling did not include the instructions.

There's no word on whether any other Wingnut moulds have been sold or licensed to other companies but I suspect not.

But don't expect Wingnut kits under the Kotare brand. Sir Peter Jackson owns all the copyrights of the Wingnuts catalogue.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia

I got impatient and bought the HKM Lanc, oh well...I'd imagine the HP's would be a harder sale, large and complicated with less of an appeal to people than a Lancaster (at least outside of this forum and interest area), but digits crossed. I suspect Kotare will likely focus on bread and butter models to bring in the cash, and we can't get more bread and butter than a Spitfire :).

Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: RLWP on September 23, 2021, 06:19:32 PM
Jamie,
    I'm approaching my 78th

Well, your body is anyway. Your online presence is far, far younger than that

Must be all that model building...


Richard
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: lcarroll on September 23, 2021, 11:02:05 PM
    Thank you for that Richard! As John Denver sang, "Some days are diamonds, some days are stones" ......  ;)
Cheers!
Lance
Title: Re: Kotare's Spitfire
Post by: Gisbod on September 24, 2021, 12:09:35 AM
I'll go against the general hobby trend these days and say I would be happy with a quality but simple kit without the over-engineered teeny tiny details that cost an arm and a leg and just dilute the model building experience.

Whatever Kotare do will depend entirely on what budget the company's owner allocates to the staff. The fact the staff includes some Wingnuts DNA does not mean the business has Sir Peter Jackson's budget. He has no connection with Kotare and that's official.

We can be assured the Kotare Spitfire will be stunning but I hope it's affordable and a straightforward build.

And for Gisbod - Guy I am told the ex Wingnuts Lancaster tooling has been sold to a company in China which is now preparing to produce it, but first has to create an instructions booklet from the parts. The sale of the tooling did not include the instructions.

There's no word on whether any other Wingnut moulds have been sold or licensed to other companies but I suspect not.

But don't expect Wingnut kits under the Kotare brand. Sir Peter Jackson owns all the copyrights of the Wingnuts catalogue.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia


Ah thanks Dave, that’s great to know, I hope they don’t dumb it down too much and keep the quality, but bound to be pricey for sure!

Guy