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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: RAGIII on September 07, 2021, 01:48:21 AM
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Just saw this on FB. They look nice and should work well on Roden kits in Particular.
RAGIII
https://quinta-studio.com/en/product/396/?fbclid=IwAR1KSPxlbbITQ4kmpwc9-YYc7Ujh_sETb419HE3gPBEtgjpmRYoJsPn7lmk
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Not only that, there are now also some sets for Eduard WWI kits in 1/48.
Fokker Dr.I
(https://quinta-studio.com/u/product_photo/390/6639_zm.jpg)
Albatros D.III OEFFAG
(https://quinta-studio.com/u/product_photo/392/6582_zm.jpg)
Albatros D.III
(https://quinta-studio.com/u/product_photo/391/6573_zm.jpg)
Cheers,
Frank
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For Roden 1/32 there are also some: Albatros D.I and D.III and Dr.I
(https://quinta-studio.com/u/product_photo/394/6652_zm.jpg)
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So is this just a trompe l'oeil 3D effect in 2D or is the piece you apply to the model actually three-dimensional?
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So is this just a trompe l'oeil 3D effect in 2D or is the piece you apply to the model actually three-dimensional?
They have the appropriate 3D items printed on decal paper. ( Sort of like Archer) but perhaps a step up in new tech.
RAGIII
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They use a color 3D printer, but do not print an a base plate, but on a decal sheet. So you get a real structure, raised buttons and switches ...
This printer made in Japan is in the 30000$ region.
You can see here some cockpit parts printed:
(https://i.ibb.co/gFPMc5s/118653923-1999582230176564-2205549104929138898-o.jpg)
Those printer can handle many colors and even different clear coats.
The newest printer is more powerful, but price is much higher:
https://www.mimakieurope.com/products/3d/3duj-553/
An impressive printed example, this is out of the printer!
(https://3dprintingindustry.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Mimaki-has-turned-3D-printing-into-an-art-with-the-Mimaki-3D-printer-3DUJ-553.-Photo-by-Michael-Petch.-768x1024.jpeg)
One day the next "WingnutWing" company will sell colorful printed biplanes on day, but until then we will have fun building those models ourself.
Cheers,
Frank
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Frank, no insult intended but you are ageing. You are ageing quite well, but nevertheless you are ageing obviously….
Andreas
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Does anyone know if the ribtapes have a clear outline? I'm asking because if not they can be airbrushed a different colour on the sheet before applying.
Cheers.
Andrew
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Hi Andrew,
I'm currently building the 'Roden' Albatros D.I.
The fuselage is already closed up so the internal detail is done.
However I decided to try the Quinta decal set for the external detail on the fuselage and wings.
To that end I've sanded off the pre-moulded detail in preparation.
I'll detail their use in my build thread in 'Under Construction'.
This is what I've found online:
The Quinta sets are printed on a type of thin vinyl, but printed on decal paper.
They are released using water as for normal decals.
They are then allowed to dry before being glued to the surface.
Quinta suggest using a vinyl adhesive, such as that from Microscale, although PVA adhesive has been used.
The vinyl's are positioned and pressed down to flatten them and remove excess adhesive and air bubbles.
They seem to be much stronger than actual decals so can easily be repositioned during application.
Mike
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Hi Mike
I would be interested in the adhesive properties of vinyl tapes. Looks like your'e going to be our Guinea pig for these sets off details. The online photos look good.
Cheers
Andrew
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Hi all,
I've yet to receive the Quinta Studio set for my Albatros D.I build.
However I can see a possible area of concern regarding the model colour versus the colours of the 3D printed Quinta parts.
As an example:
You have a fuselage area that has pre-moulded access panels that you intend to replace with Quinta parts.
Your research shows that the panels should be painted the same colour as the surrounding fuselage surface.
However, the Quinta panels are of a different colour or shade to the required colour.
Do you:
1. Paint the fuselage and apply the Quinta parts regardless of the colour mis-match.
2. Adjust the fuselage colour to match the Quinta parts, even though this may not be the correct colour.
3. Attempt to airbrush the Quinta panels (if indeed that is possible) to match the correct fuselage colour.
I suspect, due to the fine printed colours on the Quinta parts, re-painting them (if possible at all) would not be desirable as this would cover the finer colour printed details.
Just a thought,
Mike
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I would be interested in the adhesive properties of vinyl tapes.
The parts are decals, but Quinta recommends to add additional PVA glue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXBuIzkrKQE
Cheers,
Frank
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Hi Frank,
Quinta state they are a 'polymerized vinyl', but printed on decal paper.
Here's a good review, which includes their package note,
Mike
https://www.scalespot.com/reviews/details/quinta-studio/review.htm
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Those look really nice!
I'm not too sure if I get any I'd use the wood sides, since, as Mike already indicated, you'd need to match the rest to these.
A separate set of Albatros louvres and hatches would be neat too, for example to replace the not very defined ones on the lower fuselage on the WNW Albatros.
The rib tapes look nice, too. I look forward to your assesment, Mike!
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Very interesting... Please post more as we gain experience with these... Regards, Marc.
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Hi all,
Another experienced modeler has told me had no real problems when he applied 'Quinta' instruments to the Meng Fokker DR.1.
The only thing he did say was that he found the colours tended to come off if the surfaces were handled or rubbed too much,
Mike
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Hi all,
My Albatros D.I set finally arrived today.
Russia via Poland to the UK.
I'll be applying some of them in the next few days so I'll post here how it went,
Mike
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Hi all,
My Albatros D.I set finally arrived today.
Russia via Poland to the UK.
I' be applying some of them in the next few days so I'll post here how it went,
Mike
I just acquired another Roden Albatros DIII so I am looking forward to your results! I am curious if the rib tapes could be painted over without fear of the paint lifting off. I don't need blue tapes for this one :o
RAGIII
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Hi Rich,
I don't have the rib tapes set but I will try airbrushing the parts on the set that I'm not using.
I'll let you know the results,
Mike
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Hi all,
Well I've used the ‘Quinta Studios’ 3D printed Albatros D.I set (QD32076).
It took a long time for the set to arrive in the UK from Russia (via Poland).
By then I'd already closed up the fuselage and therefore I only used the Part 1 sheet, which had the external details.
I did not used the four strips intended for the top surface of the lower wings (at the wing roots) as they were way too thick.
Instead I used painted photo-etch strips.
The details are easily released from the decal backing paper and the dried using paper towel.
Due their material, they are very flexible and stronger than decals.
Each was fixed to the model surface using PVA adhesive and any edges that could lift were bonded with a drop of thin CA adhesive.
I brush painted the details to blend them with the surrounding areas, so airbrushing them shouldn't be a problem.
The range of detail is less for WW1 aircraft and so I think these sets are probably more suited to vehicles and modern aircraft cockpits etc.
Whether, after application, these are that much better than the surface detail of the more up-market kits is debatable/
Certainly kits from the lower end of the market would benefit from using these sets.
At the end of the day it's up to the modelers personal preference,
Mike
Build log is here:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12457.30 (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12457.30)