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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: RAGIII on July 16, 2021, 10:07:41 PM
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Following up on My review I intend to start building this kit at this time. I will also include a few of My lousy photos that weren't quite good enough for a "Proper" review 8)
The Decal test was fairly good and like I said although the print quality of the roundels is poor the personal markings worked well. Not Brittle and adhered to the details:
(https://i.postimg.cc/TYTWbsTZ/DSCF8871.jpg)
This panel needs to be removed on the Early version
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Hopefully more progress soon ;D
RAGIII
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Thanks for showing us the way Rick! Looking forward to what you do with this. You seem to be the master of SPADs lately. ;)
Best regards,
Bob
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Thanks for showing us the way Rick! Looking forward to what you do with this. You seem to be the master of SPADs lately. ;)
Best regards,
Bob
Thanks Bob. I am far from the "Master" but I will do My best ;D I have info from another Forum Modeler that is working on this kit. He is indeed a "Master" builder and with the mods He is making the kit should be Superb 8)
RAGIII
PS: My build will be as close to OOB as Possible!
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That's great Rick, as I prefer building close to OOB if I can. I appreciate the trail of corn kernels you will leave for us! ;D
Best,
Bob
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Will tag along when time permits :)
Alexis
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Thanks for starting this Rick, it'll be essential reading for me in due course.
Now, where are my files/sanding paper... Hope there's no further surgery to do!
Cheers
Mark
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That's great Rick, as I prefer building close to OOB if I can. I appreciate the trail of corn kernels you will leave for us! ;D
Best,
Bob
Thanks Bob!
RAGIII
Will tag along when time permits :)
Alexis
Like I said on the SE5a thread, Nice to have you back!
RAGIII
Thanks for starting this Rick, it'll be essential reading for me in due course.
Now, where are my files/sanding paper... Hope there's no further surgery to do!
Cheers
Mark
As long as you are doing French or Italian there should be very little more to do 8) That being said I decided to do a WAG on B3479, the first SPAD XIII flown operationally by the British. It served about 2 months in 19 squadron, went to an Air Depot, then comes back about 5 or 6 months later with 23 squadron. I will be making Many guesses as to finish and markings.
Which reminds Me of something I meant to mention in the Review:
The British SPAD XIII had lacing added to the Left/ Port fuselage side. It is a bit different looking than the lacing on the SPAD VII but roughly in the same locations. Roden theoretically would have had to do 3 left fuselage halves to get everything right for early, and late versions covering all of the users ::) Not very practical so details to be added.
A bit of a start on the interior. Basics painted pending washes and touch up.
(https://i.postimg.cc/sDkgsK30/IMG-20210716-154659575.jpg)
and I Painted the wings PC10.
(https://i.postimg.cc/NjRfMTMG/IMG-20210716-154616135.jpg)
Like the SE5a I will add more contrast once I receive the Strippers from Bobs Buckles!
RAGIII
PS: I thought I would show the Wing comparison to the Hobby Craft 13. Note how Heavy the wing ribs look compared to the Roden kit. JMHO.
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This looks to be a beautiful kit Rick, especially the nose section with the hatches and the rivets.
Are the details on kit fuse as beautiful as in the box-art?
Willem
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This looks to be a beautiful kit Rick, especially the nose section with the hatches and the rivets.
Are the details on kit fuse as beautiful as in the box-art?
Willem
In My opinion the details are good. More restrained/ scale than the Hobby Craft kit. One thing I forgot to mention is that the Swirls some noted in the plastic on the wings is not visible once a coat of primer is applied to the surface!
RAGIII
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Great start, Rick -
I have this kit myself now so will be following with real interest.
Regards
Dave
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Great start. I'll pull up a chair and some snacks.
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So I have made made some progress. I touched up the interior frame work and went on to the basic engine construction. I am Not going overboard on the engine as the only part that will be seen is perhaps a small amount of the lower crankcase and some piping. I also started some of the detailing by adding some cross bracing wires and the compass. Taking Kens advice I removed the foremost raised guide for locating the firewall. I don't know what I did but in My case it was not necessary as the front engine mount frames fit inset as designed. Better safe than sorry! Lots of touch up and other stuff still to do.
RAGIII
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Good to see you at work on this. I have something to complete before starting my one but I'm sure your build log will be very helpful when time will come.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Great start Rick, I'm looking forward to seeing how these new Roden kits go together.
Richie
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Good to see you at work on this. I have something to complete before starting my one but I'm sure your build log will be very helpful when time will come.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Thanks Giuseppe! Like I said Mine is "Almost" OOB so there is that. Ken is doing a Far More detailed version ;D
RAGIII
Great start Rick, I'm looking forward to seeing how these new Roden kits go together.
Richie
Thanks Richie. So far not too many issues. That being said a very quick test of parts held together indicate that the engine will need to have the cam covers removed to fit under the cowling. Like the SPAD VII the cylinder heads and cam covers aren't necessary to complete the model. However, if an engine is included it is reasonable to expect it to fit. We shall see in a few days. JMHO,
RAGIII
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This is really shaping up nicely so far Rick :)
Alexis
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This is really shaping up nicely so far Rick :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis. One more photo that shows the sanding off of the panel on the left side.
RAGIII
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Coming together well there, Rick -
I did'nt know the panel is incorrect for the early version so will remember this when I eventually get round to building mine.
Regards
Dave
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Coming together well there, Rick -
I did'nt know the panel is incorrect for the early version so will remember this when I eventually get round to building mine.
Regards
Dave
I have learned to " Never say Never" on WW1 aircraft but I have yet to see that panel on Any Photo of an early rounded wing XIII. Also No Shell? ejection ports on the lower fuselage sides which is good as Roden didn't add them 8)
RAGIII
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This is looking good, Rick. Appears you've passed me, but the Carolina boys are still leading the way! ;D
How does the fuselage top fit?
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This is looking good, Rick. Appears you've passed me, but the Carolina boys are still leading the way! ;D
How does the fuselage top fit?
Thanks Ken. Yep, the two Carolina branches of the SPAD Factory seem to be in full swing! As for the fit of the upper fuselage I have really only held it in position and the fuselage halves are not glued. Still to be determined is My best answer ;D
RAGIII
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I believe the SPAD is the WWI bird with the most complex cockpit and Roden and you displayed it nicely!
Cheers,
Frank
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I believe the SPAD is the WWI bird with the most complex cockpit and Roden and you displayed it nicely!
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank. Still a lot to do before I can close it up ;D
RAGIII
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:)
Alexis
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You have managed to build half an aeroplane in the short time I have been away Rick! I have heard much about this kit and am interested to see how a first class modeller gets on with it. You have certainly made a cracking start.
Stephen.
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Great stuff Rick, I'm very interested in how this goes as I've added one to the stash. It's always a valuable forewarning, seeing a good modeller pioneering their way through an unknown Roden Kit!!
Sandy
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I agree with Sandy, you're beating a path for us here Rick. A very excellent looking path it is too!
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The interior looks fantastic Rick.
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I think it looks brilliant as usual Rick!
The cockpit looks beautifuly detailed and great job on the wings. You chose a beautiful subject to build. I think the Spads are elegant aircraft and apart from that, I am always a sucker for the beautiful Roden box-art.
Willem
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:)
Alexis
8)
RAGIII
You have managed to build half an aeroplane in the short time I have been away Rick! I have heard much about this kit and am interested to see how a first class modeller gets on with it. You have certainly made a cracking start.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. I will soon hit a stopping point and go back to the SE5a ::)
RAGIII
Great stuff Rick, I'm very interested in how this goes as I've added one to the stash. It's always a valuable forewarning, seeing a good modeller pioneering their way through an unknown Roden Kit!!
Sandy
Thanks Sandy! So far not too many issues. I hope to have some progress photos later today along with some build comments.
RAGIII
I agree with Sandy, you're beating a path for us here Rick. A very excellent looking path it is too!
Thanks Richie. I am enjoying the build so far and am watching Kens build to see what someone can do with extra details and better skills 8)
RAGIII
The interior looks fantastic Rick.
Thanks for the comment. Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
I think it looks brilliant as usual Rick!
The cockpit looks beautifuly detailed and great job on the wings. You chose a beautiful subject to build. I think the Spads are elegant aircraft and apart from that, I am always a sucker for the beautiful Roden box-art.
Willem
Thanks Willem. I appreciate your comments as always!
RAGIII
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:) , again because I just like to smile !
Alexis
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I'm dipping into this thread waiting for the moment when you tackle the struts. To me, this is the test of a SPAD XIII kit...
Richard
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Looking as good as all your other builds! My main issue with your (and everyone else's) builds is the temptation I'm subjected to... must not by more kits!
/Fredrik
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:) , again because I just like to smile !
Alexis
;D ;D
RAGIII
I'm dipping into this thread waiting for the moment when you tackle the struts. To me, this is the test of a SPAD XIII kit...
Richard
Richard,
I have progressed a bit but am trying to hold off posting until Lance and David put up their reviews. I will add that I think I have the cabanes in position and lined up properly. The engineering of the cabane fit seems better than the SPAD VII. We shall see 8)
RAGIII
Looking as good as all your other builds! My main issue with your (and everyone else's) builds is the temptation I'm subjected to... must not by more kits!
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik. As for inspiring work a certain FK8 comes to mind ;D
RAGIII
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Thank you for this very interesting report :)
Very impressing what you have done so far.
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I was going to wait a bit but since Ken is proceeding with his "Detailed" build I figured I should proceed with My almost OOB build log. I used paper, wire, and discs punched out of sheet styrene to fake some seat belts. I also managed to break loose the compass and of course lost it to the carpet monster. I used what I had and made another...a bit Hunnish but OH well.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RZnthbkr/IMG-20210724-135508594.jpg)
I added the decking to the cockpit then glued on the upper fuselage. I went against the directions and glued the engine covers on later. In retrospect I think following Rodens directions would have been a better choice. I ended up with a couple of minor fit issues up front, all My fault! The upper fuselage goes on well and is designed to match a feature seen on the real aircraft. ( A tape or metal strip running below the first rib up top.) The cabane struts fit nicely and utilize a small groove for the lower rigging attachment to help with alignment.
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The landing gear has two issues. The "Framework" spreader bar and Roden designed the struts to fit on the outside of the bungees. I cut out the plastic blocking the struts from going to their proper location and will add details later. I also used paper cut to shape and glued to the spreader bar to cover the framework. Tamiya extra thin was applied and then when dry I brushed on thin Superglue.
(https://i.postimg.cc/WzTFjz1W/IMG-20210725-165513862.jpg)
After sanding I attached the gear to the fuselage and have begun to put on some paint.
(https://i.postimg.cc/1zfFN2WZ/IMG-20210730-161620188.jpg)
Upper wing is not glued:
(https://i.postimg.cc/BZhn80YY/IMG-20210730-182659547.jpg)
RAGIII
PS: The Vickers Guns were a bit Anemic so I am using some from a WNW Camel. ( I will need to replace those when I build the Camel)
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She is really starting to look the part with a bit of colour :)
Alexis
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This is a very detailed account Rick. For an OOB build you are adding some important details which will certainly make a difference on the completed model.
Stephen.
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It's coming together very nicely Rick, that's great work on the gear and spreader bar and the interior as well. Well on the way to another spectacular model!
Cheers,
Lance
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Good progress here, Rick -
Great to have your 'heads up' on problem areas - I will need this information when I finally get around to building mine.
Regards
Dave
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She is really starting to look the part with a bit of colour :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
This is a very detailed account Rick. For an OOB build you are adding some important details which will certainly make a difference on the completed model.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. I have tried to keep the alterations to a minimum to show the kit built as Roden offered. Only instrument dials, seat belts, and bracing wires added. Fixing the gear was a must as well as removing the panel from the left side.
RAGIII
It's coming together very nicely Rick, that's great work on the gear and spreader bar and the interior as well. Well on the way to another spectacular model!
Cheers,
Lance
Thanks Lance! I am still looking forward to your view of the kit in the box!
RAGIII
Good progress here, Rick -
Great to have your 'heads up' on problem areas - I will need this information when I finally get around to building mine.
Regards
Dave
Thanks Dave. One thing I am taking away from this build is Roden has for the most part done some good engineering. The landing gear being one exception. I don't recall if I mentioned that on My next SPAD XIII build I will only deviate from the instructions in one way. I will build the engine mounts first then construct the engine using the mounts to make sure the cylinder banks are properly aligned!
RAGIII
So now for a question. I have chosen to do B 3479 ( The first SPAD XIII delivered to the RFC. Although most are familiar with how it was marked in Feb 1918 while serving in 23 squadron it actually first served in 1917 with 19 squadron. ( June 9th through early Aug. About two Months) I have asked elsewhere and it seems there is No real info as to markings/ color scheme. Ithink it is safe to say that it would have been delivered in the "Yellow Period" scheme. ( End of May for tests before going to 19 squadron). My guess is at that time it would have been brought up to RFC standards, Lacing on the left fuselage for one thing. At some point in its career it received a PC 10 upper surface finish.
So what do you all think, Should I carry on with PC 10 for MY 19 squadron version? I figured I would add a white dumbell marking, the serial number, and call it good?
Thoughts, Opinions and wild A.. Guesses welocome ::)
23 squadron profile found on a google search:
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More good work, can hardly keep up !
Ed
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If it was delivered in mid-1917, it almost certainly was yellow/biege and may have been left that color on the bottom. I think it would look good in PC10.
I'll take your's and Roden's advice and glue the engine covers on the top of the fuselage before putting the top on the fuselage.
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More good work, can hardly keep up !
Ed
Thanks Amigo!
RAGIII
Ken,
I also think PC 10 will be a nice change from all of MY other SPADs' so I think that is the way I am going 8) One note about the construction:
I placed the left fuselage in position over the interior and wing. Then I did the same with the right. Once all was in place I ran Tamiya Extra thin down the inside at the bulkhead then along the fuselage join. This made it easy to make sure the halves were lined up properly. I varied from step 9 and glued the upper fuselage in place, then attached the engine covers. Step 9 in the directions shows attaching the engine covers to the upper fuselage First, then gluing to the lower portions. I think following the directions will help make sure the gun troughs and strut locations are all in the proper place. JMHO and I could be wrong :o
RAGIII
PS: One other note is that I left the Fin and rudder as they were supplied in the kit. They are a bit thick but not much more than the SPAD VII or Hobby Craft XIII. My reason was that if I sanded them to proper thickness I felt I would also need to alter the rear fuselage and Horizontal Tail plane to match.
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Thanks for the detailed account of putting the fuselage together. I'm still thinking about how I will do it. One thing I see when test fitting, if I match the upper sides to the width of the fuselage top, the instrument shelf falls inside the cockpit - it isn't quite wide enough to fit in place, but it's close.
Let us know about any further trials and tribulations.
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Thanks for the detailed account of putting the fuselage together. I'm still thinking about how I will do it. One thing I see when test fitting, if I match the upper sides to the width of the fuselage top, the instrument shelf falls inside the cockpit - it isn't quite wide enough to fit in place, but it's close.
Let us know about any further trials and tribulations.
Ken,
The decking fit fine once all was glued in place.
So having decided this would be a "Test" of Roden in all aspects I decided to use the roundels from the decal sheet vs Masking and painting. I must say I was surprised at how well they adhered to surface details...Better than the Decals I used last year on My 3 x SPAD builds. If the odd rippled white ink had been absent I would be tempted to say the decals are great. The roundels really look good in place. I did manage to screw up the left upper wing decal. MY OWN FAULT! I broke the aileron loose wile removing air/water from the decal. This caused a rip and forced me to do a bit of touch up. Later I slipped and sliced the decal at an angle.
I used a Dumb Bell marking from a Pheon Camel Sheet. It "Might" be too large but hell, who Knows ;D
RAGIII
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I also used Archer Lacing to add the details to the left side
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it's looking more like a SPAD.
Have you thought about whether you will detail paint the louvre openings?
I haven't really found a good way to handle louvres.
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Looking great. Well done!
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Hello, Rick,
Just visiting the Forum for a bit and came across your Spad XIII. Very well done for an "Almost OOB" build. I'll surely visit again to see your final result, which I believe will be quite a fine build. Best of luck as you progress, and "Best Regards!" 8)
Cheers!
TP
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Having the markings in place really set of the scheme !
Alexis
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Never mind the size of the dumbell Rick: the markings have turned this into a much more interesting scheme.
Stephen.
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Looking great Rick, getting the decals on has really brightened it up. Glad to hear they behaved well, this is good news all round!
I very much like the Archer stitching too.
Richie
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it's looking more like a SPAD.
Have you thought about whether you will detail paint the louvre openings?
I haven't really found a good way to handle louvres.
Thanks Ken. As for the Louvres I will/ Have just used an oil wash so far. Not great but probably as far as I will go ::)
RAGIII
Looking great. Well done!
Thanks!
RAGIII
Hello, Rick,
Just visiting the Forum for a bit and came across your Spad XIII. Very well done for an "Almost OOB" build. I'll surely visit again to see your final result, which I believe will be quite a fine build. Best of luck as you progress, and "Best Regards!" 8)
Cheers!
TP
Thanks for Dropping by...and the comment!
RAGIII
Having the markings in place really set of the scheme !
Alexis
Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
Never mind the size of the dumbell Rick: the markings have turned this into a much more interesting scheme.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen.
RAGIII
Looking great Rick, getting the decals on has really brightened it up. Glad to hear they behaved well, this is good news all round!
I very much like the Archer stitching too.
Richie
Thanks Richie. The archer lacing really is quite nice to work with. As for the Roden Decals they are improved. It is a shame that the printing is not up to standards!
RAGIII
Now for the latest Small update. I have added the wheels, They really are nicely done! I also finished up the Vickers with the PE parts and cocking handles. Some Oil washes have been started...still a lot to do. Finally the cover over the pipes has been glued in position.
RAGIII
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PS: Looking ahead to the rigging I am thinking of trying Ceramic Wire. That being said I have No Idea on what size to use and where to order in the US. Any suggestions are welcome!
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Weathering is coming along great so far Rick ! looking forward on seeing the wing mounted and the rest ! She is turning out to be a beauty so far ! :)
Alexis
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Hello. Another masterclass build! Wow. I look forward to see the rigging and struts go in. Thanks again I will use this as a reference for my build. :) :D 8)
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Weathering is coming along great so far Rick ! looking forward on seeing the wing mounted and the rest ! She is turning out to be a beauty so far ! :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis. Still lots of weathering to do!
RAGIII
Hello. Another masterclass build! Wow. I look forward to see the rigging and struts go in. Thanks again I will use this as a reference for my build. :) :D 8)
Thanks. I am sure you are also looking at Kens Much More Detailed build 8)
RAGIII
So, I could not think of any reason not to mount the upper wing. No issues were encountered, all lined up very well. I did notice after I took the photos that the left rear outer interplane strut was backwards...fixed after the photos!
RAGIII
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It's looking fine, Rick. I'm glad to hear the upper wing went on without drama. The cabanes and struts are all the correct length, then.
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Looking good! You make it hard to resist too. I ended up adding CSM's Nieuport to my stash as a result of your earlier build. I think you're about to do the same with this one too! ;)
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Really pleased to see this kit goes together generally well, Rick.
Great to see the decals on and the wing mounted - looking good so far.
Regards
Dave
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It's looking fine, Rick. I'm glad to hear the upper wing went on without drama. The cabanes and struts are all the correct length, then.
Apparently all struts are good! Like I said I had No Issues. If I had a biplane jig it would have been a piece of cake!
RAGIII
Looking good! You make it hard to resist too. I ended up adding CSM's Nieuport to my stash as a result of your earlier build. I think you're about to do the same with this one too! ;)
Thanks for the kind comments !
RAGIII
Really pleased to see this kit goes together generally well, Rick.
Great to see the decals on and the wing mounted - looking good so far.
Regards
Dave
Thanks Dave!
RAGIII
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PHEW!
Richard
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PHEW!
Richard
It only took 4 Beers Richard 8)
RAGIII
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That's pretty much in the bag then Rick and it's looking great!
Richie
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I'm just going to sit back and smile !
Alexis
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Gets better with every update Rick. A little rigging and some odds and ends and it will be finished. Good luck with it.
Stephen.
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Just more good work !!
Ed
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Thanks for commenting Folks. It has been a while and not a lot of New progress. I have used oils to add some variation to the PC 10, Added the Exhausts and attached the rudder. Next will be to touch up and then rig.
RAGIII
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That’s a cool one! And I am curious seeing your DFW behind it :)
Andreas
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That’s a cool one! And I am curious seeing your DFW behind it :)
Andreas
Thanks Andreas. As always I have No Idea where the DFW came from 8)
RAGIII
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As usual Rick your painting is first class,. The subtle variations in that PC 10 are just soooo good.
Stephen.
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Hi Rick, I think she is looking beautiful!
Nice details and immaculate paint job. The colors in your first post look more towards a greenish tone of PC10 than in your last pics, or is that the camera / lighting?
Willem
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Perfect PC10!
S
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As usual Rick your painting is first class,. The subtle variations in that PC 10 are just soooo good.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen!
RAGIII
Hi Rick, I think she is looking beautiful!
Nice details and immaculate paint job. The colors in your first post look more towards a greenish tone of PC10 than in your last pics, or is that the camera / lighting?
Willem
Thanks Willem. Like any good PC 10 the lighting makes a difference. Looks Greenish Brown or Brownish green at different times ::) That being said, these photos capture the shade pretty closely.
RAGIII
Perfect PC10!
S
Thanks Sandy!
RAGIII
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Wow! That is looking quite beautiful, Rick! I'm so glad this build is coming along well, and a real inspiration.. maybe I must tackle one! Regards, Marc.
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Wow! That is looking quite beautiful, Rick! I'm so glad this build is coming along well, and a real inspiration.. maybe I must tackle one! Regards, Marc.
Thanks Marc! I am enjoying the build but seeing Kens' SPAD makes Me realize I need to do another and take a bit more time and ADD DETAILS ::)
RAGIII
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You're demonstrating that even without a lot of detailing the Roden kit builds up into a nice model - especially with your paint work. You've toned down the white areas quite nicely. Hope mine comes out as good.
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Oh yes, I can only sign what Ken said!
And for me this is the first SPAD in PC10 livre :)
Good luck with the final bits!
Cheers,
Frank
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After getting caught up on your latest Rick , I very impressed with how this one is coming together :)
Alexis
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Beautiful work Rick, it's great to see you back to your brilliant best. 👏
Richie
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Fine progress, Rick. It is great to see this kit tackled and actually being built (almost complete!)
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Beautiful work Rick, it's great to see you back to your brilliant best. 👏
Richie
+1
/Fredrik
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Thanks to all for the comments. I haven't done a lot to this one but have made a meagre start to the rigging.
RAGIII
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It looks as though you are about to finish two models in quick succession Rick. Fingers crossed that there are no disasters because both are of your extremely high standard.
Stephen.
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Looking great Rick, nearly there....
Keep cool!
Willem
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Looking good Rick, your work bench is a very productive place where stellar models are born!
Richie
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It looks as though you are about to finish two models in quick succession Rick. Fingers crossed that there are no disasters because both are of your extremely high standard.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen! I am hoping that this one is "Past" the disaster stage. Something I haven't mentioned is that while fiddling with something I managed to bump the upper wing. It loosened some of the struts and before I knew what happened the upper wing was totally detached! Got it back on but not quite as true as the original installation. Copious amounts of superglue have been used and if all is right in the universe should hold 8)
RAGIII
Looking great Rick, nearly there....
Keep cool!
Willem
Thanks, I have managed somehow not to lose it on this build ::) See the above!
RAGIII
Looking good Rick, your work bench is a very productive place where stellar models are born!
Richie
Thanks Richie. I hope to finish this one in the next couple of weeks!
RAGIII
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The rigging continues. The flying and landing wires have been added to the front. Next the the rear wires will be done.
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I have also re done the rudder painting. I originally hand brushed the stripes. I didn't like the results so masked and sprayed.
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Shaping up nicely now, Rick -
Can't wait to see your finished result.
Regards
Dave
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Shaping up nicely now, Rick -
Can't wait to see your finished result.
Regards
Dave
Thanks for following along and the comment Dave! I have finished attaching all of the main rigging wires. Next is painting them and the usual "Smoke and Mirrors Turnbuckles 8)
RAGIII
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This looks well up to your usual standard Rick. The rigging is first class and I had wondered where thee rudder had gone.... Here's hoping this one makes it to the display cabinet without any mishaps.
Stephen.
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This looks well up to your usual standard Rick. The rigging is first class and I had wondered where thee rudder had gone.... Here's hoping this one makes it to the display cabinet without any mishaps.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen!
RAGIII
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The End is Near. I have a couple of small parts to add while waiting for a mask for the serial number from Bob von Buckles. Then final touch up and one last rigging tightening session 8) Next update should be for the completed model.
RAGIII
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Another cracker for your display cabinet Rick. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished pictures.
Richie
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Another cracker for your display cabinet Rick. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished pictures.
Richie
Thanks Richie. I had to replace a few wires after the photo shoot . It is now ready for the serial number so this week I will focus on the DH2 while waiting for the masks from Bob 8)
RAGIII
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Wow, Richie -
Really looking the 'bees knees' now
Regards
Dave
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Wonderful Spad, Rick. An other gem in your collection.
Bye,
Manni
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Yes that is going to be another winner in your cabinet Rick. First class rigging.
Stephen.
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Nice to see the wings fully rigged up. Lots of wiring in there.
The light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter!
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Wow, Richie -
Really looking the 'bees knees' now
Regards
Dave
Not Richie but thanks Dave ;D
RAGIII
Wonderful Spad, Rick. An other gem in your collection.
Bye,
Manni
Thanks Manni! I appreciate the comment!
RAGIII
Yes that is going to be another winner in your cabinet Rick. First class rigging.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. Once the serial Number is added along with a couple of small parts this should be # 10 for this year ;D
RAGIII
Nice to see the wings fully rigged up. Lots of wiring in there.
The light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter!
Thanks Ken. I am really looking forward to seeing your SPAD in the rigging stage. !
RAGIII
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One question, Rick. How do you do your rigging tightening?
You do use monofilament, correct?
I have the top wing on my SPAD and am starting the rigging and already have a line with too much sag in it.
Any info would be appreciated.
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One question, Rick. How do you do your rigging tightening?
You do use monofilament, correct?
I have the top wing on my SPAD and am starting the rigging and already have a line with too much sag in it.
Any info would be appreciated.
Ken, I "Normally' Use the monofiliament but in this case the rigging is HSS 8) That being said I have had success tightening the Mono with an Incense Stick, and in the old days a lit cigarette . I think a soldering iron on low would work also but haven't tried. :-X Be careful as it is possible to get too close and burn through the lines...How do I know this ;D
RAGIII
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This turned out real nice Rick. It's odd to see it in Brit markings in PC10; you did an outstanding job. The rigging is particular unique this aircraft and provides the modeler with another challnege not found in other aircraft of the era and it looks like you handled it in "True Rick Fashion"!
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This turned out real nice Rick. It's odd to see it in Brit markings in PC10; you did an outstanding job. The rigging is particular unique this aircraft and provides the modeler with another challnege not found in other aircraft of the era and it looks like you handled it in "True Rick Fashion"!
Thanks Mark. It is Fact that B3479 was doped in PC 10 during it's service in the RFC. What is speculation is if it happened after it was in 19 squadron ::) I tend to think it was probable that it was in the yellow scheme while in 19 sq. but as No One has proof either way I went with the PC 10 to be different! As for the squadron markings that is also "Speculation". 19 went through quite a few marking changes during the time frame that B3479 was with the squadron 8)
RAGIII
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This one is done and in the case! Thanks To all for the support!
RAGIII
Thanks to Bob von Buckles for the serial # masks!
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RAGIII,
That’s a great, no nonsense, looking Spad.
I look forward to seeing more photos in the
Completed section.
Kevin
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The next one finished - do we have the SPAD weeks now?
Not that detailed as Ken's SPAD, but a nice model nevertheless. And you were not afraid of the complicated rigging 8)
And finally a big extra star for this never-before-seen livre!
Cheers,
Frank
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Thanks to Bob von Buckles for the serial # masks!
Thanks for the nod, Rick! :)
You did a great job all round - well done! ;)
Cheers,
Bob
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It does 'look the business' and it's nice to see different liveries. Fine job!
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RAGIII,
That’s a great, no nonsense, looking Spad.
I look forward to seeing more photos in the
Completed section.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin your comments are appreciated!
RAGIII
The next one finished - do we have the SPAD weeks now?
Not that detailed as Ken's SPAD, but a nice model nevertheless. And you were not afraid of the complicated rigging 8)
And finally a big extra star for this never-before-seen livre!
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank. We now have both ends of the spectrum covered with Ken and My builds ;D As for the Livery if it had a triangle and letter N it would be accurate. As I have said I took a WAG about how it "Could Have" appeared while it served in 19 squadron 8) SPAD Week ;D I think both North Carolina factories are closed...at least for now. I am sure if you get started on a SPAD you will simply replace the struts with brass, do some soldering magic for fittings, and make it look Easy!
RAGIII
Thanks to Bob von Buckles for the serial # masks!
Thanks for the nod, Rick! :)
You did a great job all round - well done! ;)
Cheers,
Bob
Thanks Bob. I couldn't have done it without your help!
RAGIII
It does 'look the business' and it's nice to see different liveries. Fine job!
Thanks Ken. You have shown us all how Great this kit Can Look! I will follow your lead on the Next one 8)
RAGIII
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Hey you tried to slip this one past me so that I would not notice!
This looks gret Rick - well up to you usual very high standard. Nice to see one in PC 10 and RFC markings too.
Stephen.
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Hey you tried to slip this one past me so that I would not notice!
This looks great Rick - well up to you usual very high standard. Nice to see one in PC 10 and RFC markings too.
Stephen.
As always, Thank You Stephen!
RAGIII
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Hi there,
Fantastic stuff! I am currently doing an out of the box build of my forum prize kit and using your build as a reference.
So far so good. How did you find it compared to the SPAD 7?
Thanks:)
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Hi you used a combination of zig zag and single stitch archer decals?
I’m glad you found kit decals ok. Mine look a bit transparent and out of register but I’ll give them a go when I get to it.
Also thinking of doing early 23 Sqn crate. Cheers ;)
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Hi there,
Fantastic stuff! I am currently doing an out of the box build of my forum prize kit and using your build as a reference.
So far so good. How did you find it compared to the SPAD 7?
Thanks:)
Personally I think the kit is better than the SPAD VII and the Old Hobby Craft XIII. Not by a huge amount but better! For one thing the struts are sturdier and accurately shaped. I hope you are also following Kens excellent build!
Hi you used a combination of zig zag and single stitch archer decals?
I’m glad you found kit decals ok. Mine look a bit transparent and out of register but I’ll give them a go when I get to it.
Also thinking of doing early 23 Sqn crate. Cheers ;)
I used the kit decals to see how they worked. When I do another I will spray the roundels. I think I used just the zig zag lacing but I will have to check. I did mine to match the type used on the SPAD VII as My build represented the First XIII to reach the RFC. I think the lacing was different on the XIII 's used later. There are some good photos in the Data File.
RAGIII
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Thanks!
I’m still filling the gaps on the wings. I’m using an old tube of Mr white putty and I’m not loving it. Anyway yes I’ll check the other build. Mines a quick OB build so nothing fancy. Might try the decals. It’s not WNW but it should look like a SPAD which is all I want
Thanks and happy building
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Looking great! I have just received my own copy from my LHS, and this is a great inspiration! Thanks for your extensive build log, too :)
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Beautiful! I do love a SPAD in RFC markings.
The next one finished - do we have the SPAD weeks now?
My prize kit is sitting there mocking me, daring me to get started!
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Thanks!
I’m still filling the gaps on the wings. I’m using an old tube of Mr white putty and I’m not loving it. Anyway yes I’ll check the other build. Mines a quick OB build so nothing fancy. Might try the decals. It’s not WNW but it should look like a SPAD which is all I want
Thanks and happy building
I would love to see a build log but at least post photos when you are finished!
RAGIII
Looking great! I have just received my own copy from my LHS, and this is a great inspiration! Thanks for your extensive build log, too :)
Thanks for the kind comments Jeroen!
RAGIII
Beautiful! I do love a SPAD in RFC markings.
The next one finished - do we have the SPAD weeks now?
My prize kit is sitting there mocking me, daring me to get started!
I am looking forward to your build!
RAGIII
Photos Now in completed Models Section:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12641.0