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Title: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on May 29, 2021, 01:46:21 AM
Hi all,
I can't finish the Hansa-Brandenburg W.20 as I'm still waiting for the propeller.
Also I can't progress the Ponnier M.1 until I receive the replacement Lewis gun, so that I can modify the fuselage accordingly.
So I've started researching what will probably be the 'next' model, which will be the last of the problematic resin kits I have.

This model will represent a Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter, flown by the Imperial Russian Air Force from 1916.
The Italian aircraft designer Francesco E. Mosca worked at the Russian Duks factory, along with Bezobrasov, Lerkhe and Yankovski.
The initial MB design, first flown in 1915, was a two-seat reconnaissance aircraft, similar to contemporary French Morane and Nieuport monoplanes.
During 1916, a smaller and faster single seat version was developed as the MB bis.
The MB bis was similar in construction to the MB, being constructed largely of wood with a linen covering.
The wings were mounted in the shoulder position with gaps between the wing roots and sides of the fuselage, which allowed for easier access to the cockpit and gave the pilot an improved field of view.
When being transported on the ground, the wings were folded to lie along the fuselage sides and the tail-planes were folded forward and upwards.
The aircraft used wing warping, rather than aileron control and was powered by a 80 hp (60 kW) Le Rhone 9C engine.
The armament consisted of a single 7.7 mm machine gun (type and make not known, but looks to be a Lewis variant).
The machine gun was mounted in one of two ways. The forward firing machine gun was fuselage mounted and fired through the arc of the propeller, which was fitted with deflector plates to prevent damaging the propeller.
Otherwise, the machine gun was mounted on the fuselage to fire either upwards and outside of the propeller arc, or was mounted parallel to the fuselage, similar to the earlier French Nieuport fighters, again to fire outside the arc of the propeller.
A total of 50 MB bis fighters were built up to 1918 and a few additional aircraft of this type were reportedly built after the revolution.

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/header.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/MBbis2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: kkarlsen on May 29, 2021, 03:09:52 AM
Interesting subject Mike, I must admit I've never come across it.
That doesn't mean it isn't interesting and exotic, looking forward to seeing you do your 'magic'..

Cheers: Kent
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on May 29, 2021, 03:40:47 AM
Another unique build to look forward to Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Rookie on May 29, 2021, 03:49:18 AM
Hi Mike,

Great choice! Cowling looks tricky...

I took a few quick snapshots with my cell phone from books. Maybe they are of interest to you.

If you want I can make high-res scans.

Machine gun could be a Colt also (see caption of 2nd picture).


Willem

(https://i.postimg.cc/wMRHQ5Dw/1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/jCVTgWXt/2.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/44YhSr5S/3.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Alexis on May 29, 2021, 04:16:14 AM
Like Kent I have never heard of this type . It is rather cute looking to be honest ..pocket size ! Looking forward to your work on this one .

Alexis
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Manni on May 29, 2021, 04:50:54 AM
Veeeery nice plane. The wings look very delicate with only those two tubes. I also like the tiny lower rudder. It would look great with spoked wheels like shown on Willems photos.
Bye, Manni
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on May 29, 2021, 06:04:08 AM
Hi Willem,
Thanks for your offer, but I think I've got what I need.
The photographs you show, despite the text, looks to me like the aircraft is the original two seat reconnaissance MB.
Certainly the last photograph.
Also the cut-outs at the wing roots are much wider than that on the MB bis fighter version.
Finally the big give away is no machine gun.
The text is correct for the fighter version, but I think added to the MB aircraft photographs.

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Fvdm on May 29, 2021, 03:11:02 PM
This doesn't look it's gonna  be a walk in the park. I think you need all the  skills you got, but I'm sure you can do it
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Rookie on May 29, 2021, 03:36:04 PM
I see what you mean Mike.

I was in my mancave where I keep my books. Saw your first post on my phone, which doesn't show much details in the pictures. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents.

You are always doing meticulous research on your subjects and I'm sure this will be no exception.

I know you'll again have a great model to show us in the end!

Willem
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Matti on May 29, 2021, 05:33:33 PM
Very interesting project from unknown plane.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Kamil Zoszak on May 29, 2021, 05:53:53 PM
I'm waiting for any update... I have this plane from Retro kits.  Very poor quality with no instruction sheet. I will follow your work if you don't mind 8)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on May 29, 2021, 06:24:17 PM
Hi Kamil,
It will be a while before I start building, but you can look at the build 'Des' did,

Mike

https://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page45.html (https://www.ww1aircraftmodels.com/page45.html)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Kamil Zoszak on May 30, 2021, 06:29:16 PM
Thank you for this "share" . We will be in touch  8)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on June 18, 2021, 09:22:05 PM
Hi all,
Now that the Hansa-Brandenburg W.20 is finished it's time to start the resin Mosca from 'Omega'.
I sometimes wonder if the company is called 'Omega' because of the reaction modelers get when they open the box - 'OhMyG--'
As you can see, most of the resin, especially fuselage and wings is so thin in places it's virtually see-through.
The instructions are, to say the least, minimal.

Hey-Ho - I've built 'Omega' kits previously, so at least I know what I'm in for,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/kit1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/kit2.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/kit3.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/kit4.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/kit5.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/kit6.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Alexis on June 18, 2021, 09:43:11 PM
The adventure begins ! ... :)


Alexis
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Rookie on June 18, 2021, 10:28:45 PM
Oops!

Those are fragile looking parts Mike, but I'm sure that with your craftsmanship that won't be a problem.

Willem
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on June 20, 2021, 08:16:32 AM
Hi all,
The fuselage of this model is constructed from six resin parts, which are the right side, left side, top forward panel, top rear of the fuselage, engine bulkhead and the underside.
The underside of the fuselage is a single piece, but the molding of this part is bad.
Not only is the part twisted and with air ‘blow’ holes, but the thickness of the molding is uneven, being thick on the right side and wafer thin on the left side.
This makes the underside of the fuselage virtually unusable.
Therefore I decide to discard this part and make the underside from 0.8 mm thick plastic card, with 0.2 mm thick plastic card strips to represented the linen tapes.

I've also decided not to make the kit supplied photo-etch cockpit, which I think is too flat and two-dimensional.
So that's the next step,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/underside1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/underside2.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/underside3.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/underside4.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on June 20, 2021, 08:28:35 AM
Nice start Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Monty on June 23, 2021, 05:29:35 AM
A great start and you are already working your magic on this one, Mike! A very interesting subject too! Do you think those decals are usable? Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on June 23, 2021, 08:02:50 AM
A great start and you are already working your magic on this one, Mike! A very interesting subject too! Do you think those decals are usable? Regards, Marc.

Hi Marc,
The decals are typical from 'Omega' - not cookie cut and more like inkjet printed then sealed over the entire sheet.
I probably won't chance them so maybe I'll mask and airbrush instead.
We'll see,

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on June 24, 2021, 01:11:08 AM
Hi all,
The cockpit is complete now.
I found the photo-etch cockpit parts supplied in the kit were too flat and two dimensional.
Therefore, apart from the compass, single instrument and seat straps, the rest were either scratch built or I used appropriate parts from my 'spares' box.
As there is no information on the cockpit detail for this aircraft, I suspect 'Omega Models' used some 'poetic license' creating there parts.
The cockpit frame work is 1.0 mm and 0.85 mm plastic rod.
The pilots seat is a resin 'Barracuda Studio' part, intended for the Sopwith Camel.
Frame cross bracing wires are 0.1 mm diameter blackened Nickel-Silver rod with 0.4 mm blackened Brass end fittings.
The hand priming pump is 0.6 mm tube, lead wire and plastic rod.
The throttle, although not I think strictly accurate, is from a Wingnut Wings Camel kit.
Rudder and elevator control lines are 0.08 mm diameter mono-filament with 0.4 mm blackened tube end fittings.
The linen paint is the MRP CDL lacquer and wood work is 'DecoArt' craft Burnt Umber acrylic.
Weathering is Flory Models' Dark Dirt wash.

I've now fitted the fuselage top rear decking and as our 'Des' found when he built this kit, it's 5 mm too short at the fuselage rear.
So filler needed,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/pit1.jpg)


(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/pit2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on June 24, 2021, 03:57:12 AM
Excellent interior Mike. Looks Terrific!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on June 25, 2021, 02:41:30 AM
Hi all,
I've fitted the top, rear of the fuselage and then filled the 5 mm gap at the rear of the fuselage.
I also sanded off the linen tapes on that and replaced them with sanded down 0.2 mm thick plastic card.

The kit supplies one photo-etch access panel for fitting to the forward, left side of the fuselage.
This panel was used to gain access to the fuselage internal components.
The few available photographs of this aircraft and subsequent colour profiles seem to show that some aircraft had this access panel fitted and some did not.
Those that did had the panels fitted into wood or metal fuselage panels (certainly not into just the fuselage linen covering).
Also, some profiles show the wood access panel to be fitted into either a plywood or metal covered forward fuselage.
However, all reference material shows only the left side of the aircraft, not the right side.
My assumption
I believe it’s probable that early versions of the aircraft had no forward fuselage side or access panel, but instead had just the fuselage linen covering.
On later versions it seems likely that the wood access panel was fitted and into fuselage forward side panels of metal, as used over the forward top of the fuselage and engine cowl.
It also seems probable that these panels were fitted to both sides of the aircraft, so  full access to fuselage internal components was possible.
I couldn't find any evidence to prove otherwise.
I scratched the fuselage side panels and access panel with hinges and lock plates from 0.2 mm thick plastic card.

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/fustop2.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/sidepanels.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Monty on June 25, 2021, 03:47:27 AM
Amazing! Stellar work, Mike! I love the cockpit and you don't miss a trick... the fuselage detailing is a tour de force - what a lesson! Regards, Marc
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on June 25, 2021, 05:02:36 AM
Great research leading to a beautiful addition to the kit Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Alexis on June 25, 2021, 11:02:18 AM
Nice attention to the details Mike  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on June 26, 2021, 10:59:10 PM
Hi all,
The underside of the fuselage had a 'V' strut, on which the wing warp controls were located.
Given the lack of detailed information for this aircraft, it's difficult to figure out exactly how these control were configured.
I believe the controls were configured as follows:
Two control cables from the rear bell cranks of the control column torsion bar, were routed vertically through the underside of the fuselage.
These cable were attached to a control lever at the bottom, rear of the V strut.
At the front of the V strut was a 'pulley' and control lever.
Wing warp control cables from both the 'pulley' and lever were attached to the rear spar of both wings.
Flying and landing wires were attached to another V strut towards the front of the fuselage underside.
All wires were routed above the wings to an inverted V strut forward from the cockpit.
The wing warp wires were routed over a pulley on the cockpit strut.

As the control column was moved left or right, the lower rear levers rotated the front pulley and lever.
This caused the trailing edge of the wings to twist either up or down, causing the aircraft to roll in the required direction.

So, based on this I scratch made the underside V strut assembly.
I used the two control levers from the kit.
The struts were 1.4 mm tube with 0.5 mm rod reinforcing.
Control mounting rod is 0.5 mm rod.
The pulley is a spare photo-etch propeller boss plate, secured onto 0.5 mm thick plastic card.
The lightening holes were drilled through using a 0.9 mm diameter drill.

Now it's onto the underside forward V strut,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/warpstrut2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on June 27, 2021, 02:15:24 AM
Hi all,
Also the forward V strut on the underside of the fuselage.
This was used for attaching the fixed flying and landing wires to the front spar of the wings.
The protruding 0.5 mm rods have a collar of 0.7 mm diameter added to retain the wires, when fitted.

Now onto the wing supports, the top V strut and machine gun support,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/fwdstrut.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: FAf on June 27, 2021, 03:51:39 AM
Sheer beauty!!! I can't say anything about your assumptions on pulleys and other things, but I'm sure you're correct. 😁
/Fredrik
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on June 27, 2021, 04:26:38 AM
More outstanding research and work Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RichieW on June 27, 2021, 04:59:06 AM
Oh Mike, that is spectacular detailing!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on June 29, 2021, 12:36:06 AM
Hi all,
The basic 'V' strut assembly for the top of the fuselage is done.
The strut supported the flying and landing wires at the front and the pulley on the rear for the wing warping wires.
The machine gun mounting was also attached to this assembly, but that will be added later in the build, as will the rigging fittings.
The assembly was made with soft soldered Brass Tube of profiled 1.1 mm and 1.4 mm diameter with internal reinforcing Brass rods of 0.4 mm and 0.8 mm diameter.

Now onto the wing supports and landing gear.

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/topstrut.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/topstrut1.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on June 29, 2021, 07:25:27 AM
Hi all,
I've added the rear support for the wings, made from 1.5, and 1.1 mm diameter tube with 0.8 mm internal rod.
I've also added 0.5 mm diameter rods to the engine cowl, which helps to support the thinly moulded cowl to the fuselage.
I need to add a wind blat screen below the rear wing support and a filler cap as well as rudder and elevator control line exit ports under the fuselage.

Then it's onto the landing gear.

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/wingmount1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/wingmount2.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/cowl1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/cowl2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on June 29, 2021, 09:08:12 AM
Awesome work Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Alexis on June 29, 2021, 10:03:41 PM
Really coming together Mike  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 01, 2021, 01:42:15 AM
Hi all,
A few updates.
I didn't bother using the kit supplied resin landing gear - enough said.
Instead, I made a replacement using profiled Brass tube of 1.2 mm, 1.4 mm and 1.6 mm diameter and 0.5 mm diameter Brass rod.
All of which was soft soldered.
The axle retaining hoops were made from 0.4 mm diameter lead wire.
I've added a scratch made tank filler cap, cockpit rear wing shield (0.5 mm thick plastic card) and engine cowl retaining straps (0.5 mm sanded flat plastic rod).
The cockpit surround padding was added using ANYZ’ silver braided line (AN015).
Lastly I've added the rudder and elevator exit ports in the underside of the fuselage.

Suffice to say I'm not using the kit supplied rudder assembly and tail skid.
So that's the next job,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/gear3.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/ports.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/bits.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/cowlbars.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 02, 2021, 03:32:26 AM
Hi all,
The basic tail unit is done.
I disregard the entire kit supplied parts, apart from the elevator halves.
Basically the resin was badly moulded and with no reinforcing rods.
Also short shots and the rudders were the wrong shape.

The tail skid and its support frame are made of 0.3, 0.4, 0.5, 0.8, 1.2 and 1.4 mm diameter Brass tube or rod.
T two rudder were cut and profiled from 0.8 mm plastic card.
The photo-etch control horns for the lower rudder and elevator are from the ‘Jadar’ WW1 1:48th scale control horns (S48087) set.
Most of the assembly is a loose fit at it all can't be fitted as a complete assembly until later in the build.

So, now it's onto some final details on the fuselage before construction starts,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/taildone1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/taildone2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Rookie on July 02, 2021, 04:51:06 AM
This is looking wonderful Mike.

You must have a hotline with K&S or Albion Alloys, with all that brass work going on in all your builds.

Perfect soldering work again, and so many added beautiful details!

Willem
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 04, 2021, 03:02:33 AM
Hi all,
The last strut work is now finished.
This is the mounting frame for the machine gun.
One version of this aircraft carried a Colt machine gun, fixed to the forward fuselage and fired through the propeller arc.
The propeller was protected by Nieuport type deflector plates.
The version for this model had a early Lewis type machine gun that was fixed at an upward firing position of an inverted V frame.
This fired the weapon over the arc of the propeller.
This mounting was made from 0.7 mm diameter tube with 0.3 mm diameter internal and wrap around rod.
The replacement 'GasPatch' machine gun had it shoulder stock removed, as the weapon was most likely fired by operating a cable from inside the cockpit.

Now at last I can think about actually building this model!!

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/gunmount3.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: IanB on July 04, 2021, 04:06:59 AM
This is wonderful work. I'll have to bookmark it as a reference as I have a 1:72 kit of it in the stash!

Ian
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Fvdm on July 04, 2021, 06:17:53 PM
Your metal work looks awesome Mike. I also like the color of the seat. Will you tell use what color you used? I find it always difficult wich color to use for a seat.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 04, 2021, 07:32:52 PM
Hi Fvdm,
As usual all details of this build will be included in the build log I produce on completion of the model.
However, the seat, which I replaced with a seat from the resin ‘BarracudaCast’ British wicker AGS seat (BR32234) set, was painted as follows:
1. Primed with 'AK Interactive' Grey (AK758).
2. Airbrushed with ‘Tamiya’ Desert Yellow (XF59) acrylic.
3. Brushed with ‘AK Interactive’ Light Wood filter (AK-261).
4. Weathering applied using ‘Flory Models’ Dark Dirt fine clay wash.
5. Sealed by airbrushing with 'Alclad' Light Sheen (ALC-311) clear lacquer.

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on July 04, 2021, 10:14:04 PM
The details you create with tubing and rod are second to None Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 06, 2021, 05:51:01 AM
Hi all,
The pre-shading has been applied to the fuselage, wings and flight surfaces.
I've attempted to represent the engine as best I could, given that the kit supplied moulding is the worst I've seen.
The single piece engine is misaligned so there is a step at each side of the cylinders.
Only 6 inlet manifolds were in the kit, there should be nine (replaced with spare 'Roden' manifolds).
No valve gear or push rods or spark plugs either.
The kit engine had to be used as no other replacement engine would fit inside the engine cowl.
In fact I even had to remove the top of four cylinders to get the kit engine to fit (the can't be seen in the cowl).
I've used the resin propeller in the kit, but replaced the centre boss plate with a spare 'GasPatch' part.
I've discarded the kit supplied wheels and replaced them with 'GasPatch' spoked wheels.

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/preshade1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/preshade2.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/engdone.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/propdone.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/wheelsdone.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Fvdm on July 07, 2021, 02:19:43 AM
Thanks Mike. Those wheels look fantastic!
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 07, 2021, 06:28:37 AM
Hi all,
The linen decals have now been applied.
White primed base coat, polished then pre-shaded with 'thinned 'Tamiya' Smoke (X19).
The decals were cut from a sheet of the ‘Aviattic’ Clear Doped Linen (CDL) bleached (ATT32044).
The Russian cockard decals supplied in the kit are ink jet printed and not 'cookie' cut.
Typical of these type of decals, that are very easily surface damaged, before or after application.
If possible, I'll probably airbrush the cockards using templates - we'll see.

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/cdl1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/cdl2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on July 09, 2021, 01:20:08 AM
Looking good Mike!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Manni on July 09, 2021, 04:09:29 AM
Very good results with the Aviattic decals, Mike . They look like airbrushed on the surface.
Bye Manni
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 10, 2021, 10:02:34 PM
Hi all,
I thought of replacing the Russian markings using masks and airbrushing the three colours.
However, aligning concentric circles accurately and without over spray was always going to be tricky.
Therefore I decide to print the decals instead, using an Inkjet printer, not Laser.

This is the process I used:

Create the decal in Photoshop Pro software or similar.
Test print on paper to check size.
NOTE:  As the centre of the Russian markings are white, I used Mr. Decal White decal paper, to avoid the surface below the applied decal showing through too much.
Place the decal paper into the printer feeder tray with the glossy side facing up.
Adjust the printer setting for the paper to ‘Premium Gloss Photo paper’ or equivalent and set the print resolution to high.
Print the decal sheet.
Leave the printed decal sheet for several hours to allow the ink to fully dry.
NOTE: During the following step, do not apply too much sealer over the decals, as it can flood the surface and when dry cause a ’fish eye’ effect. Also spray at a shallow angle to the decal sheet, not at 90  degrees and at a distance of 12 inches or more away. Wear a respirator and spray in a well ventilated area.
Apply a several light coats of sealer over the decals, using such as ’Krylon’ Acryli-Quik acrylic lacquer or similar.
Allow each coat to thoroughly dry before applying another coat.
Check decals are fully covered and sealed with the clear coat.
NOTE: If using White decal paper, make sure you cut around the decals as close to the outline as possible, to avoid the white decal paper showing at the edges.
Carefully cut as close as possible around the decal to remove it from the backing sheet.
Make sure the model surface is smooth and has clear gloss acrylic coat, such as ’Alclad' Aqua Gloss 600 or similar.
NOTE:  Adding PVA adhesive (white glue) to the water, used to detach the decal from its backing paper, can improve adhesion of the decal to the model and help prevent ‘silvering’ (trapped air) under the decal. Also take care not to ‘stretch’ the decals when removing the water.
Apply the decals to the model as for standard water slide decals.

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/markings.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Rookie on July 10, 2021, 10:26:07 PM
Thanks for explaining that process  so clearly Mike.

This is someting I am definitely going to try!

Willem
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on July 10, 2021, 10:47:28 PM
The markings really bring the aircraft to life Mike! My Favorite part of any build  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: IanB on July 10, 2021, 11:16:48 PM
Top job on the decals Mike. Getting rid of the white edge is never easy.

Ian
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: rhallinger on July 11, 2021, 12:15:10 AM
The markings look splendid Mike!  What sort of printer do you use?  Thanks.

Best regards,

Bob
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 11, 2021, 12:43:14 AM
The markings look splendid Mike!  What sort of printer do you use?  Thanks.

Best regards,

Bob

Hi Bob,
Nothing fancy - just a standard Canon IP7250 using aftermarket ink cartridges.

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Fvdm on July 12, 2021, 02:28:19 AM
The markings look great Mike. The tip of using PVA glue in the water is one I'll remember
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Bughunter on July 12, 2021, 02:36:44 AM
You create here again a wonderful model of a rarely seen aircraft!
The aftermarket parts and brass replacement will enhance the kit to a complete different level.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 12, 2021, 08:08:51 PM
Hi all,
The weathering has been applied and sealed.
'Flory Models' Dark Dirt and Grime fine clay washes.

Now onto the pre-rigging before construction,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/weatheringdone.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Europapete on July 12, 2021, 09:58:03 PM
Just caught up with this one Mike, it's coming along great. Well done on the CDL, you get better results with every build. Regards, Pete in RI
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 13, 2021, 04:58:43 AM
Hi all,
A bit of progress.
The carburettor air intakes, engine, landing gear and wheels have been fitted.
Also the tail unit, consisting of upper and lower rudders, tail plane, control horns and rudder/elevator control lines.
Finally the tail skid assembly including the 'bungee' type suspension cords.

The next step is to pre-rig the wing warping control lines and bracing wires before the wings are fitted,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/stage1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/stage2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: FAf on July 13, 2021, 02:35:38 PM
Really great looking results!
I like your efforts with the decals as well.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 14, 2021, 10:16:02 PM
Hi all,
I've pre-rigged the two wings with 0.4 mm diameter blackened Brass tube, 'GasPatch 1:48th Type turnbuckles and 0.08 mm diameter mono-filament.
A line is passed through a tube and turnbuckle then back through the tube and secured.
The free end of the line is then passed through a hole in the wing and a tube and turnbuckle added.
The end result if a free moving and double ended turnbuckle, which should self-align when the landing and wing warp lines are attached to the free end of the turnbuckles.
The two V struts are also fitted with wing warp control cables fitted to the rear strut.
Finally, I've added the tail plane control lever and cable to the fuselage underside.

Now onto fitting the wings and support frame,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/wingprerig.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/vcables1.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Borsos on July 15, 2021, 12:37:08 AM
That’s incredible cool what you are doing here!
Andreas
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 15, 2021, 03:57:03 AM
Hi all,
Wings and V strut support frame fitted.
Now onto the rigging,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/wingson.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Fvdm on July 15, 2021, 03:59:16 PM
GReat work Mike. Have fun rigging.
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 16, 2021, 12:30:52 AM
Splendid!!  :o

Bob
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: DaveB on July 16, 2021, 02:30:56 AM
Wow - wonderful work and progress!

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on July 16, 2021, 04:14:45 AM
Another stunner almost ready for your case!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 16, 2021, 05:58:12 AM
Hi all,
I've now added all of the required rigging, the weapon, windscreen foot step and the propeller.
So apart from the figure and setting up the display case, the model is finished.

Once again thanks to everyone's comment and encouragement on what was a challenging build,

I'll post the final shots in a few days.

Mike
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Alexis on July 17, 2021, 02:03:00 AM
Looking forward to the finished product Mike  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: lcarroll on July 17, 2021, 03:11:33 AM
Mike,
   Your double ended self aligning turnbuckles are brilliant, wish I'd seen them before I rigged the Morane Saulnier N I recently did. As usual, an exceptional build with stunning details. Nicely done again!!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on July 17, 2021, 06:06:21 AM
Really looking forward to the final photos Mike. Another Stunner!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 17, 2021, 06:21:58 AM
Mike,
   Your double ended self aligning turnbuckles are brilliant, wish I'd seen them before I rigged the Morane Saulnier N I recently did. As usual, an exceptional build with stunning details. Nicely done again!!
Cheers,
Lance
Hi Lance,
Thanks - it works well,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/wingrig1.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on July 17, 2021, 06:33:12 AM
Really awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: Mike Norris on July 18, 2021, 04:57:57 AM
Hi all,
Last update.
'Kellerkind' Russian pilot,

Mike

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/man1.jpg)

(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/MB-bis/man2.jpg)
Title: Re: 1:32nd scale Mosca-Bystritsky MB bis fighter
Post by: RAGIII on July 20, 2021, 07:33:27 AM
Nicely Done Figure Mike!
RAGIII