forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com

WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Von Salza on May 11, 2021, 07:34:31 AM

Title: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on May 11, 2021, 07:34:31 AM: Hi.
My first project and first plane. Austro-hungarian Albatros with plenty interesting camouflage patterns, plywood areas and not very advanced rigging.

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_04/1098279100_AlbatrosD_III.jpg.78707759e493212cdc611041ef02a56f.jpg)

Started with cockpit – first experiments with woodgrain, some scratch (Schwarzlose barrels from syringe needles, seat cushion form modellers clay and hygienic tissue), adventures with metal paint. I decided to make plywood seat as reference photos showed (sorry for wasting Your time, Alexis :-[).

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_05/IMG_2900.jpg.b568fc3a0d9ee65937a6cbd39b92b566.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_05/IMG_2903.jpg.62e8611eaeed6c960ae62f579bb3f018.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_05/IMG_2907.jpg.3cd40e5b46cca9d33e1489f44743cc93.jpg)

The parts are well-fitted, very soft plastic is easy to work with. I am almost ready to close the fuselage.

Martin.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: hrcoleman66 on May 11, 2021, 07:53:19 AM: Yes, a very interesting subject.

Looking very good!

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2021, 09:07:02 AM: Nice start on a very good kit. Also as I haven't seen you post a build before welcome to the "Under Construction" section of the Forum! Looking Great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Rob Hart on May 11, 2021, 11:25:29 AM: Nice work on the cockpit and engine. I recently built this kit and strongly recommend pinning the lower wings to fuselage attachments. The kit's tongue and groove attachment is way too shallow to provide sufficient strength.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/mm236/rlhart13/.highres/DSC04199_zpsjxxvwalv.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/rlhart13/p/87c520b0-b462-4197-97a3-3c8dfd0924b0)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Alexis on May 11, 2021, 11:01:56 PM: Hi Von ,

Following your build and it looks like you are off to a nice start so far . No need to be sorry , you didn't waste my time at all . You asked a question and I answered . :)

Alexis
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on May 12, 2021, 06:50:48 AM: Thanks all of You for response. Rob, thank You for warning - those tongues are definitely insufficient and need enhacement.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: PrzemoL on May 12, 2021, 08:49:12 AM: Very fine start. Lovely wood effect, great details, the seat is my favourite.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Manni on May 12, 2021, 06:52:02 PM: So nice. The engine looks stunning.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Fvdm on May 13, 2021, 03:18:48 AM: Nice start and an interesting color scheme.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on May 13, 2021, 04:11:37 AM: Thanks for all kind comments. I put the artbox only to show which model I have chosen. But I'm going to replicate the plane from Flik 61J, used by Ludwig Hautzmayer - number 153.32. It is not a camouflage pattern offered by Eduard. So I will try to use and cut a little box decals, bigger marks like stripes will be painted.

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_05/AlbaDIII_153_32_L.thumb.jpg.5a77f55dffdc2791fa2adfe859a0b722.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_05/AlbaDIII_153_32_P.thumb.jpg.6aefd59c010488440727d27ebb57aaa2.jpg)

Pictures from Flying Bat site only for discussion purpose.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Borsos on May 13, 2021, 04:27:52 AM: This looks like a nice and joyful start for you, as the pretty cockpit and the well made engine tell us. And I think they could be right, good models don’t lie :)
Andreas
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: phil2015 on May 13, 2021, 05:55:15 AM: Nice scheme!
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Alexis on May 13, 2021, 12:43:58 PM: Very nice choice for a scheme :)

Alexis
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Fvdm on May 13, 2021, 02:38:14 PM: I liked the boxart but this scheme is even better. Great choice.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Matti on May 13, 2021, 03:20:52 PM: Good start & very good looking painting scheme
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2021, 07:29:39 AM: Lovely choice of schemes!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on July 25, 2021, 06:36:52 AM: Reanimation of dead topic... Here's some progress:
- fuselage closed, sanded (few evenings, disaster), painted. Camo pattern is coarse, finer is out of my range at the moment.

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_07/IMG_3040.thumb.jpg.d2a4fcc31d4f31cdb6d2f854e0f1c15b.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_07/IMG_3041.thumb.jpg.93617a4c40926d0cf4e9e34059143b0b.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_07/IMG_3043.thumb.jpg.f3413d2f16e67189deeee214af1f3071.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_07/IMG_3044.thumb.jpg.548f9c9f80293d19d0190def6ad53b29.jpg)

- wings... During painting the unit's stripes I've secured too narrow area. When masks were removed wings had light, happy beetroot tone all around. So, again - from the beginnig :) Now, it looks better:

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_07/IMG_2933-2.thumb.jpg.bff3d3c05e9a4edef632b6eb4c29ef4d.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_07/IMG_2936.thumb.jpg.126dac68631fe265a96c7fd8d4599dc5.jpg)

- some small staff: cowling, propeller..

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_07/IMG_3048.thumb.jpg.3ea7592a0df84c22f7879ff073f4bbf4.jpg)

Next, I will paint rest of the unit's insignia on the fuselage and wings, then spray varnish, put decals, wash between panels and make some oil weathering.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: ColonelKrypton on July 25, 2021, 07:18:03 AM: I think the wood work looks quite nice - subtle and not over done.

Well done.

cheers, Graham
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Brad Cancian on July 25, 2021, 08:45:30 AM: Wonderful work Graham - and you say this is your first aircraft kit...? Surely not :o ;D ;D

Question - how did you paint the metal nose cowl? It looks very good.

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on July 25, 2021, 04:30:59 PM: Thanks for Your posts.
Brad - black base and Mr.Hobby Silver with aero, then Mr.Hobby Aluminium with fine brush and optics.
This is my first plane at all, I made three tank builds before.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: gbrivio on July 26, 2021, 12:46:39 AM: Very nice model so far. Beautiful woodgraining and wings transparency.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Alexis on July 26, 2021, 01:16:27 AM: Quote from: gbrivio on July 26, 2021, 12:46:39 AM
Very nice model so far. Beautiful woodgraining and wings transparency.
Ciao
Giuseppe

Agreed :)

Alexis
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on July 26, 2021, 06:33:15 AM: Thank You :)
It's motivating...
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: RAGIII on July 26, 2021, 09:00:52 PM: Your paint work is outstanding! Really looking Fantastic.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on August 03, 2021, 05:00:51 AM: Small progress, Flik's stripes are painted, decals are being set (I am not quite sure of this grammatic form ::)).
Now I have a question: the rudder seems to be a difficult place for decals:

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_08/1909206312_Mae.jpg.b28aaac5b5e9ce003bbe3a36b91d174e.jpg)

Does anyone remember if Eduard's decals are easy to be set on that location? If not, maybe I should paint german cross with white border? Despite that it's time consuming process...
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: RAGIII on August 03, 2021, 06:29:51 AM: This looks Terrific! Sorry I can't answer your decal question for Eduard 1/48th but painting always looks fantastic 8)
RAGIII.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: FAf on August 04, 2021, 02:28:26 AM: Absolutely beautiful! 🙌

Eduard's decals are as good as any, so I don't think they will cause problems. On the other hand, decals in tricky areas can always cause problems. If you can paint the cross with less issues than what may arise from using decals, go for it!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: RichieW on August 04, 2021, 05:56:45 AM: Wonderful painting going on here! The translucency looks absolutely real and the woodwork is just beautiful.

The decal should go on just fine with micro sol and micro set. If it doesn't it would be easy to remove with tape leaving you free to paint it instead. Your work looks so skillful that you wouldn't have any trouble with either method.

Richie
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on August 04, 2021, 06:31:11 AM: Thanks for Your kind replies. I am not skillful - I spend a lot of time and sacrifice my mental health to reach acceptable results. ;)
Unfortunately I don't have Microscale liquids but only some Vallejo products which were for sure manufactured for quite different purposes.
Micro SOL is actually not available in Poland (at least I couldn't find it in any store) so I have to order it via Amazon or Ebay - two weeks of waiting. Because of that I am going to paint those symbols. If it fails - there's only one small rudder to repaint.
Richie - could You write anything more about "tape method" for decals?
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: RichieW on August 04, 2021, 08:45:48 PM: Sure, when I have had decal problems and needed to paint markings instead I just stick Tamiya tape on the decal and then rip it off. They usually come off quite easily in one piece.

Richie
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on August 04, 2021, 10:38:26 PM: Sounds like waxing, brrr...
Thank You :)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on August 24, 2021, 04:53:37 AM: Small update.
I put wash and oils - too much dirt I am afraid. But it is done, the next one will be flown by Mr. Clean.
Almost ready for the final assembly.

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_08/IMG_3077.jpg.ce1386b5deb5bd27f8b7836ece9b6634.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_08/IMG_3079.thumb.jpg.a3e131e0c43a3dae571cb8dec49cfe4f.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_08/IMG_3080.thumb.jpg.f51c2f53213e3ea50db571b0683e034e.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_08/IMG_3089.thumb.jpg.9c70948c58cab868e489b6bdbd7a550c.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_08/IMG_3092.thumb.jpg.f2b7104b9753fb83427512f53291a21c.jpg)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: FAf on August 24, 2021, 04:57:01 AM: Too much or too little is very much a matter of personal opinion. Your build is looking really good and there is, as you say, always the next one to improve on if you feel like it.

Cheers Fredrik
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: RAGIII on August 24, 2021, 05:13:19 AM: I Love the results! If too much it is not obvious to Me! The prop looks outstanding!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: RichieW on August 24, 2021, 07:05:30 PM: I can't agree that there is too much dirt, it looks fantastic and the weathered effect is lovely and subtle still. I really like it!

Richie
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on August 24, 2021, 07:37:11 PM: Thank You for Your posts. I'm glad You like this work.
Turnbuckles (0,2 mm copper wire):

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_08/IMG_20210824_112107.thumb.jpg.5203c136308989ef6237ee85b07ba2c1.jpg)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on August 25, 2021, 05:34:05 AM: Hi, I need help now.
Do You know if the rig lines diameter is the same. On some of the pictures (for discussion purposes only) they seems to be different:

(http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Ger/Alb_DIII_OFFAG/Koloman/verspannung10__medium_.jpg)

Those on the first plan are thicker than the rest. But maybe it's an optical illusion, because they are closer. On the WnW plans (they are for Albatros D.V and D.Va only) rig lines have the same diameter. Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Borsos on August 26, 2021, 04:31:09 AM: Quote from: Von Salza on August 25, 2021, 05:34:05 AM
Hi, I need help now.
Do You know if the rig lines diameter is the same. On some of the pictures (for discussion purposes only) they seems to be different:

(http://www.wwi-models.org/Photos/Ger/Alb_DIII_OFFAG/Koloman/verspannung10__medium_.jpg)

Those on the first plan are thicker than the rest. But maybe it's an optical illusion, because they are closer. On the WnW plans (they are for Albatros D.V and D.Va only) rig lines have the same diameter. Thanks for any help.

Hm, it’s really hard to tell.
Do you really think something that is hard to tell in 1:1 would be visible in 1:48? I doubt that.
Best regards,
Andreas
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on August 26, 2021, 07:02:42 AM: Do you really think something that is hard to tell in 1:1 would be visible in 1:48?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I don't know. That's why I am asking.
I have 0,1 mm EZ line and fishing braid line (I am not sure if this word is correct here) 0,14 for thicker rigs.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: FAf on August 26, 2021, 03:09:06 PM: I can't really answer the question about different thicknesses...

But, I tend to use fishing line, monofilament not braided, of 0.11 mm thickness for all my rigging in both 1/48 and 1/32 scale. That means a real life thickness of 5.28 and 3.52 mm respectively. Along Andreas' line of thought I too don't believe that small differences in real life will be visible in small scale modelling.

Good luck with the rigging!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on August 26, 2021, 03:15:26 PM: Ok, I will use 0,1 line. Thank You both.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: FAf on August 26, 2021, 07:59:15 PM: I think that will be fine... and I'll amend my previous post with the following...

If something in real life is different by millimetres from another thing, then this will hardly be visible in any scale representation. But there is of course a difference in appearance between 0.11 mm monofilament and 0.08 mm monofilament or Uschi's variants and whichever you go for might be more a question of personal taste than anything else. Personally I think Uschi's lines are too fine and I prefer wires that can be seen at a distance even if they might be a bit out of scale.

Cheers
Fredrik
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on August 26, 2021, 09:25:42 PM: Thank You, Frederik. When You make Your first model everything is difficult and unclear. Such posts do a great job.
Martin.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Alexis on August 27, 2021, 07:02:29 AM: Wonderful stuff !

Alexis
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on August 29, 2021, 05:31:29 AM: Thank You, Alexis.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on September 03, 2021, 05:48:04 AM: Today i fixed first (here and in my life) handles for rigging. I needed some time for selecting right materials and practice. Here's the result, I hope it will hold out the rigging process...

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_09/IMG_3097M.thumb.jpg.7d4c0b217253c5850b1e2809dd25d606.jpg)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: PrzemoL on September 03, 2021, 07:18:30 AM: Fine progress. As for the strength of rigging fittings I test every single one before assembly for pull out. Pass a piece of fishing line, hold the ends and try to pull it out. If it holds then it will also stand the rigging. 😉
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on September 03, 2021, 07:28:39 AM: I'll do that, thanks :)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Borsos on September 03, 2021, 03:06:00 PM: Looks like a strong bond to work with!
Andreas
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: RAGIII on September 04, 2021, 10:11:34 PM: The fittings should give you a nice solid anchor!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on September 21, 2021, 10:08:06 PM: No progress. I've ordered lines for rigging from Ushi store almost two weeks ago. I received mail with confirmation. And from that day silence. I sent two mails with no answer. Had anyone of You similar problems? Should I wait? (BTW what else can I do?).
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: RichieW on September 21, 2021, 10:21:52 PM: Those anchor points should be plenty strong enough. They look very tidy too.

Richie
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on November 08, 2021, 01:36:28 AM: I'd like to refresh this forgotten topic.
After two months of waiting for rigging lines (during this time I began to construct another Albatros) the work could be continued. The hardest task was fixing the upper wing with rest of the model, I had to use force and quick drying glue... Comparing to this, the rigging seemed to be rather easy. It is not perfect - next time I will choose different method for gluing the line. A few actual pictures:

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_11/IMG_3549.thumb.jpg.1c5c753fe9085f172de58beff5662785.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_11/IMG_3550.thumb.jpg.0d650859034a9ecbf45e4d9baf5efe2c.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_11/IMG_3553.thumb.jpg.c3015a05752373f873793ecb81d551b1.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_11/IMG_3554.thumb.jpg.9193bad62a1fd24dd68866601d2f5750.jpg)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: RAGIII on November 08, 2021, 02:42:18 AM: Beautifully painted and the rigging looks Excellent!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Ernie on November 08, 2021, 12:35:19 PM: Quote from: RAGIII on November 08, 2021, 02:42:18 AM
Beautifully painted and the rigging looks Excellent!
RAGIII

My thoughts exactly! Just amazing, especially the wing translucency.

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Manni on November 08, 2021, 08:10:38 PM: I only can dito the above said. Beautiful work and a superb paintjob. Everything looks really coherent.
Bye,Manni
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on November 10, 2021, 01:13:16 AM: Thank You :)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Borsos on November 10, 2021, 02:49:26 AM: That’s really a great one! I can’t see any flaws on your rigging.
Andreas
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on November 15, 2021, 06:12:23 AM: Thank You all.
Recently birdie got its wheels, waiting for propeller and some final touches.
Before the Hall of Fame I am going to make a small vignette to avoid placing it on the bare, cold cardboard.

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_11/IMG_3555.jpg.536529b5bdc4e4e4b303f522935177e5.jpg)

(https://modelwork.pl/uploads/monthly_2021_11/IMG_3557.jpg.250d261d8a3584678a13fc96d7e2c50d.jpg)
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: RAGIII on November 16, 2021, 03:32:46 AM: This looks incredible now that it is on it's wheels. The view now really shows off the translucent wing effects to perfection! Beautiful work!!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: FAf on November 16, 2021, 05:32:00 AM: Really, really great painting there!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: PrzemoL on November 17, 2021, 08:59:13 PM: Great progress. I still admire your paintwork - the wood and the semi-translucent linen on the wings. Very convincing!
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Von Salza on November 19, 2021, 08:00:40 AM: Thank You. Those kind master class modellers' opinions are mobilizing and motivating.
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: Alexis on November 19, 2021, 08:17:25 AM: Truly , some remarkable work ! :)

Alexis
Title: Re: Albatros D.III Oeffag 1:48 Eduard
Post by: KiwiZac on November 20, 2021, 11:20:48 AM: Those wings are truly remarkable. For comparison here's a par of TVAL-build reproduction BE.2cs in the sun:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51193117819_e48a2ce78b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZL7op)8da7955d-0942-4cf1-a4f8-b1bebaea1005_zpsqerjez8a_35511544662_o (https://flic.kr/p/2kZL7op) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51192561723_784147f341_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kZHg5x)e41711f7-d424-40dd-a61a-6de4e17109e5_zpsmskwca9l_35680423955_o (https://flic.kr/p/2kZHg5x) by Zac Yates (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacyates/), on Flickr

Bravo!!