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Title: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Naimbs on May 05, 2021, 09:47:35 PM: Hello!

Aircraft prototypes interest me a lot!

Some models from my collection ;D

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/44511510.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1159)

Recently, I start the Germania JM

(https://utd-ir.tdl.org/bitstream/handle/10735.1/1804/4EF-307-Ger%20JM-PB1.jpg?sequence=1&isAllowed=y)

Source: https://utd-ir.tdl.org

(http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/germany/germania_jm.jpg)

Let's go! :)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/17875711.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1165)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/17960111.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1166)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/17998012.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1167)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18133411.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1168)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/17749910.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1169)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18102810.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1176)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18108710.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1178)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18133412.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1177)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18093210.jpg)

More soon! ;)

Arnaud
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Manni on May 05, 2021, 10:26:00 PM: Very cool subject. I love Prototypes. I will watch carefully and learn.
Bye Manni
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on May 06, 2021, 01:48:34 AM: I too am becoming more interested in prototypes and limited run aircraft. You have a super collection and the Germania (a type new to me) is no exception. I will follow with interest too.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: RichieW on May 06, 2021, 04:20:58 AM: Beautiful collection of scratch builds, will be following this with interest. Your Germania wings look amazingly neat!
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on May 06, 2021, 09:03:07 AM: Terrific collection and your start on this one is Awesome! Your wing rib results in particular look Fantastic!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Alexis on May 06, 2021, 10:37:50 AM: Very nice collection and this one will add to it even more :) Off to an excellent start so far so I will have to follow your progress .

Alexis
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: ermeio on May 06, 2021, 04:50:29 PM: Excellent choice and fantastic collection!
er me
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: DaveB on May 07, 2021, 01:15:46 AM: Great collection and wonderful work!

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: kensar on May 07, 2021, 11:50:30 PM: Great looking work!
I would like to see your wing construction technique.

You have a fine collection going.
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on May 08, 2021, 06:53:04 AM: Very nice, aas usual from you bench!

Quote from: kensar on May 07, 2021, 11:50:30 PM
I would like to see your wing construction technique.
+1

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Naimbs on May 08, 2021, 07:32:11 AM: Hello friends!

Thank you very much for your nice comments

Hope you can understand well with the pictures.
I use double-sided tape

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18280910.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1179)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18280010.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1181)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18109610.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1180)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/17977810.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1182)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18075210.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1183)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18202710.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1184)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18255610.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1185)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18143110.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1186)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18306110.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1187)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18232910.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1190)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18181410.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1188)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18113910.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1189)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18259710.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1192)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18281210.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1193)

Double-sided tape

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18059910.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1195)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/17930910.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1196)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/17956910.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1197)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18194110.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1199)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18088010.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1198)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18143111.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1200)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18051510.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1201)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/17946910.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1202)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18032510.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1203)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/18236210.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1204)

and I finish with Tamiya glue (green cap)

A bientôt! :)

Arnaud
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: kensar on May 08, 2021, 09:30:07 AM: Looks like the Woodman method, only with a styrene core instead of wood. Nice!
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on May 09, 2021, 01:47:07 AM: Thanks for the detailed photos of your processes!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: RichieW on May 14, 2021, 05:54:31 AM: Many thanks for posting your wing making technique, that is very helpful to me.

Richie
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on May 14, 2021, 08:35:52 AM: As Ken has written that looks like the Woodman method but with styrene core: simple but effective. The photographs are very clear and self explanatory.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Dave Brewer on May 14, 2021, 09:17:56 AM: Thanks Arnaud, a great post; I really like this technique.
Cheers,
Dave.
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Rookie on May 14, 2021, 07:22:05 PM: Great subject en good progress Arnaud!

What is the brand of the tape you use, and how thick is it?

Willem
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on May 16, 2021, 08:31:42 PM: Thank you very much for the detailed description, very helpful!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: dr 1 ace on May 17, 2021, 06:06:52 AM: will be a great addition to your collection !

Ed
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Naimbs on November 16, 2021, 07:16:05 PM: Hi all,

Thank you very much for your kind messages :)

The suite, with the wings and the full cockpit (speculative, except the steering wheel, which can be seen in a photo of the plane).

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20210511.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20210510.jpg)

Cockpit:

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20211124.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1227)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20211123.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1226)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20211125.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1228)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20211128.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1231)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20211127.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1230)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20211126.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1229)

Everything is made with Evergreen , some PE, and scrap plastic.

Once all the pieces were glued, I slid the assembly into the fuselage.

More soon

A bientôt

Arnaud
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: gbrivio on November 17, 2021, 02:18:57 AM: I missed the initial thread, beautiful prototype models. Very interesting technique for wings building and inner details.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on November 17, 2021, 02:53:32 AM: Great looking interior and another interesting technique for the assembly!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on November 17, 2021, 06:57:35 AM: That is a superbly detailed interior.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Ernie on November 17, 2021, 09:52:12 AM: Really amazing work, Arnaud. Your technique with the wings was something,
but the cockpit work is terrific. Well done!

Cheers,
Ernie :)
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Dirigible-Al on November 18, 2021, 05:29:49 AM: Great work Arnaud.
Thanks for the tutorial on the wings.
Alan
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: RichieW on November 21, 2021, 10:25:26 PM: That interior is stunning, amazing scratchbuilding and wood simulation skills. Beautiful!

Richie
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: jamieg on November 24, 2021, 02:06:26 AM: Fascinating progress!
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: DaveB on November 24, 2021, 07:04:32 PM: Superb cockpit!

I can't believe it is not from a kit actually ............

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Naimbs on February 04, 2022, 05:56:12 PM: Hi friends

The Germania has progressed well, as you can see.

The fuselage has been improved in terms of shapes.

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20211213.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20211214.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20211218.jpg)

The wings too...

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220112.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220110.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220111.jpg)

All final fuselage details have been added, including some rivets.

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220113.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220114.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220115.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220118.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220116.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220117.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220120.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/img-2010.jpg)

Thank you very much for your very kind messages

A bientôt!

Arnaud
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on February 05, 2022, 12:21:55 AM: Outstanding work on this unusual bird! The fuselage really looks terrific, especially with details and a little paint applied. I am really impressed by the wings and tail surfaces.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on February 05, 2022, 02:30:39 AM: More first class scratch building of a really interesting but little known type.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Naimbs on February 07, 2022, 08:30:00 PM: Thank you very much Stephen and RAGIII! :)
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Naimbs on February 12, 2022, 04:06:00 PM: Hello,

Stencil painting made with masking strips.

It's not perfect...

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220232.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1318)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220233.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1319)

Arnaud
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on February 13, 2022, 05:03:18 AM: Those rib shadows look good enough to me - remember they are representing shadows so the outlines should be a little uneven. In any event the scratch build is excellent and of an unusual type - that alone is sufficient to catch my eye.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Naimbs on February 13, 2022, 07:36:12 AM: Hello Stephen,

The previous photo is confusing. The wings are not glued, there is still work to detail the fuselage.

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220234.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1320)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220235.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/15911006/1321)

A bientôt!
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on February 14, 2022, 01:21:39 AM: Your build is really moving along now. The ribs and markings showing through the linen look terrific! Lovely little aircraft.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Alexis on February 14, 2022, 03:40:48 AM: It kinda grows on you after a while , excellent work so far !

Alexis
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Naimbs on June 15, 2023, 06:16:10 PM: Hello everyone,

After a very long break, the Germania JM is back!

It has been stripped since last time.

At present, the wings have been fixed and rigged.

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20230629.jpg)

There were still quite a few parts to build and fix.

See you soon

Arnaud :)
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Tim Mixon on June 15, 2023, 11:13:51 PM: Oh that’s just cool! Looking great.
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: RichieW on June 15, 2023, 11:33:21 PM: Brilliant, your wings are beautiful, seriously impressive work!

Richie
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: enathan on June 16, 2023, 12:40:29 AM: It's nice to see you back Arnaud, and though this is not 'my' scale this is a very interesting subject and I will follow with interest.
Great work so far!
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on June 16, 2023, 01:12:36 AM: Great to see you back on this one. Your little Bird is looking Fantastic!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on June 16, 2023, 06:49:58 AM: I agree with the others: good to see this one being completed. A very high standard of scratch building here - just love it!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Rookie on July 04, 2023, 02:34:05 AM: So good to see you working on the Germania again.

This is absolutely brilliant!

Willem
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Davos522 on July 04, 2023, 04:31:29 AM: Beautiful, Arnaud!

I'm slowly catching up with many of the more interesting older threads here on the Forum, and this one is one I'd missed until today. By some weird coincidence (or synchronicity, as Jung would call it!) my oldest son and I went to a hobby shop in Hartford, Connecticut on Saturday, where he fell in love with the old Meikraft kit of the Lloyd 40.15 and bought it. Neither of us had ever even heard of such an aircraft... he hasn't done any modeling since he was around 12 or 13 (he's 37 now!) but his stash of WWI kits is larger than mine, and he plans on starting again "someday..."

Is yours from the Meikraft kit? It's a fascinating aeroplane, in either case!

Dave V.
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Flamingo on July 04, 2023, 07:48:32 AM: Very nice scratchbuilt!

How did you make the side radiators?

Joe
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Naimbs on July 08, 2023, 04:27:27 PM: Hi Joe,

Thank you so much!

For the radiators, I started with a plastic coffee filter with very fine mesh:

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220125.jpg)

Cutting strips in the direction of the mesh and gluing them to a rectangular Evergreen rod, we're getting close to the desired effect. With an aluminum + juice trial:

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220127.jpg)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/15/91/10/06/20220128.jpg)

Arnaud
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Naimbs on July 08, 2023, 04:41:43 PM: Quote from: Davos522 on July 04, 2023, 04:31:29 AM
Beautiful, Arnaud!

I'm slowly catching up with many of the more interesting older threads here on the Forum, and this one is one I'd missed until today. By some weird coincidence (or synchronicity, as Jung would call it!) my oldest son and I went to a hobby shop in Hartford, Connecticut on Saturday, where he fell in love with the old Meikraft kit of the Lloyd 40.15 and bought it. Neither of us had ever even heard of such an aircraft... he hasn't done any modeling since he was around 12 or 13 (he's 37 now!) but his stash of WWI kits is larger than mine, and he plans on starting again "someday..."

Is yours from the Meikraft kit? It's a fascinating aeroplane, in either case!

Dave V.

Hi Dave,

Thank you for your kind words!

No, the Lloyd 40.15 is a full scratch. It is not commercially available in 1/48 scale. I decided to make a rectangular fuselage. I think Meincraft represents it as triangular.
I had made a topic on the forum, but all the photos have disappeared.

I found a few photos on my computer. Sorry for the quality:

(https://2img.net/r/hpimg11/pics/745911P1090857.jpg)

(https://2img.net/r/hpimg11/pics/871247P1090856.jpg)

(https://2img.net/r/hpimg11/pics/776406P1090858.jpg)

(https://2img.net/r/hpimg11/pics/620228P1090859.jpg)

(https://2img.net/r/hpimg11/pics/805943P1090860.jpg)

(https://2img.net/r/hpimg11/pics/344305P1090861.jpg)

(https://2img.net/r/hpimg11/pics/383776P1090863.jpg)

In the company of its successor, the Lloyd 40.16, also scratchbuilt:

(https://2img.net/r/hpimg11/pics/828982P1090864.jpg)

(https://2img.net/r/hpimg11/pics/937338P1090865.jpg)

(https://2img.net/r/hpimg11/pics/363268P1090866.jpg)

The Loyd 40.6 was a really ugly plane! ;D
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 09, 2023, 01:33:36 AM: An ugly plane but Beautiful Model! I like your radiator method also@!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on July 09, 2023, 06:44:27 AM: Super pair of scratch builds - and a really interesting project for God's Own Scale modelling....when some of my other projects are completed!

The radiator idea is first class.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: PJ Fisher on July 09, 2023, 10:03:49 AM: Gems!
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: RichieW on July 09, 2023, 05:28:56 PM: As Rick said, a beautiful model of an ugly plane. The wood effect is really stunning.

Richie
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: dr 1 ace on July 10, 2023, 12:08:46 PM: I'll echo all the above compliments !

Ed
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: FAf on July 10, 2023, 03:42:28 PM: Quote from: dr 1 ace on July 10, 2023, 12:08:46 PM
I'll echo all the above compliments !

Ed

Echo! 😀
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: bobs_buckles on July 10, 2023, 04:47:59 PM: I'll echo the echo!
Excellent scratching & paintwork - well done!!

Bob
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Dirigible-Al on July 12, 2023, 04:58:07 AM: Echo
Very well done Arnaud.
Alan.
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Naimbs on July 14, 2023, 06:25:52 PM: Thank you very much! ;D

I love Lloyd airplanes. They were very bold for the period.
I have several prototype projects in mind but I have to finish other projects before that!

These are my first full-length scratches, which are a little dated today in terms of finishing details.

I'd like to finish this Germania JM hahaha

Arnaud
Title: Re: Germania JM, 1/48
Post by: Rookie on July 16, 2023, 10:57:39 PM: This is looking so good! Very clever way of making the radiators.

I might steal that idea...

Willem