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Title: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on April 20, 2021, 11:32:41 PM
I got this kit a while back from Mark Krumrey as what basically amounted to a gift! It was lightly started and I have added a little work, very little so far! Mark had painted the interior in a Nice Dark wood pattern. Since I really have No Hope of Matching it I will have to strip and re do the interior wood. I also picked up the Bren Gun PE of which I will use only some! This will be a slow build with lots of questions asked as I have Almost No SSW DIII reference  :( I have bookmarked a few of the former builds and will use them as needed.
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/ncF3Pbz6/IMG-20210420-091841817.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/wTwwKfR3/IMG-20210420-092025562.jpg)

PS: I also need to order the Aviattic Lozenge for this one  8)
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: lcarroll on April 21, 2021, 01:17:23 AM
Great project Rick, and my favorite Roden Kit. That Bren Gun PE Set is an outstanding product, the lower cowling with all of the cooling louvers is worth the price alone but yes, some of the parts on the sheet are best left where they are! I have the Data File as a main Ref so if you have questions just ask.
I liked this Kit so much I have a second with the Bren Gun Set tucked away for an "encore" later!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: kensar on April 21, 2021, 01:44:10 AM
Excellent looking raw material!
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: DaveB on April 21, 2021, 01:52:42 AM
Good project, Rick -

I've built in the past and from what I remember the lower wing to fuselage was very poor so need a bit work to get on.   Other than I think alright and the lozenge decals are actually not too bad to work with in this Roden kit.

I shall follow with interest.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RichieW on April 21, 2021, 04:36:00 AM
Nice, I'll follow along Rick. I really like this aircraft, have you picked a scheme yet?

Richie
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: lone modeller on April 21, 2021, 04:48:07 AM
Not a type (or kit) with which I am very familiar Rick, but I have seen DaveB's model and it looked very good to me. I am sure that you too will make a gem from it so I will follow along and watch.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Bughunter on April 21, 2021, 06:25:28 AM
Oh, Rick is building a Siemens-Schuckert! I'm watching of course 8)
In my build report (of the smaller Eduard bird) I have color pictures of the real engine and the impressively huge four blade "Wotan" airscrew on a wall at the "Deutsches Museum" Munich.

Good luck and huge fun!
Frank
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on April 21, 2021, 06:26:03 AM
Nice, I'll follow along Rick. I really like this aircraft, have you picked a scheme yet?

Richie

It is in the title Richie, The "One Day Ride" of Ernst Udet  ;D  Thanks to all for the encouraging comments!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on April 21, 2021, 06:28:46 AM
Oh, Rick is building a Siemens-Schuckert! I'm watching of course 8)
In my build report (of the smaller Eduard bird) I have color pictures of the real engine and the impressively huge four blade "Wotan" airscrew on a wall at the "Deutsches Museum" Munich.

Good luck and huge fun!
Frank

I would love to see the photos Frank although I can almost guarantee that My 1/32nd version will not equal your smaller scale build  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Bughunter on April 21, 2021, 06:43:00 AM
Oops, sorry - forgot to paste the link (both mentioned pics are on the first page):
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9722.0

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RichieW on April 21, 2021, 08:05:59 AM
Nice, I'll follow along Rick. I really like this aircraft, have you picked a scheme yet?

Richie

It is in the title Richie, The "One Day Ride" of Ernst Udet  ;D  Thanks to all for the encouraging comments!
RAGIII

Doh! Missed that bit. :)
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: mgunns on April 21, 2021, 09:34:24 AM
Nice to see you tackling this one Rick.  Looking forward to seeing you work your magic with this kit.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on April 21, 2021, 11:10:29 AM
I'm really looking forward to this one Rick , any info you need let me know and I will see if I can help .


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Fvdm on April 25, 2021, 07:35:56 AM
Nice new project Rick. I'll sit back and see how you do your magic.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: dr 1 ace on April 26, 2021, 07:56:03 AM
From one completion to the next start !  Wish I could  !

Ed
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Mike Norris on April 26, 2021, 06:00:38 PM
Hi Rich,
This is a nice aircraft and I think the only one in this scale.
If it's of any use you could refer to my build log, which although a conversion of to the earlier version D.III, does have a lot of reference data,

Mike
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on April 26, 2021, 10:41:39 PM
Hi Rich,
This is a nice aircraft and I think the only one in this scale.
If it's of any use you could refer to my build log, which although a conversion of to the earlier version D.III, does have a lot of reference data,

Mike

First thanks to all for the Encouragement ! Thanks Mike, I have your build and several others bookmarked for reference! Very helpful for figuring out certain details.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: petrov27 on April 27, 2021, 12:05:00 AM
Looking forward to seeing what you do with this! Personally love the Roden SSWDIII and it remains one of my favorite (and rare!) completed kits in my collection.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on April 27, 2021, 12:12:35 AM
Looking forward to seeing what you do with this! Personally love the Roden SSWDIII and it remains one of my favorite (and rare!) completed kits in my collection.

Your build is one of several I have book marked Patrick  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 01, 2021, 02:22:13 AM
I finally have a "Little" progress to show I stripped the paint from the interior of the fuselage and put down a base for using oils to re paint. A question here. What is the consensus on the tones. 1. Dark stain? 2. Normal wood tones? 3. Reddish Stain? All opinions and or expert advice is welcome! I also started cleaning up and folding some of the kit and PE parts.

RAGIII



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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Bughunter on May 01, 2021, 08:13:40 AM
Oh yes! The carnage begins!

As far as I know there are no survivers. The real one in Berlin is a replica. So I think you can do the wood as you like 8)

Have fun,
Frank
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: petrov27 on May 01, 2021, 09:46:25 AM
Yep unfortunately it is a tough call on the wood color. Obviously it is typically depicted with very dark stained wood but I also have seen the theory that it could have been a very yellow/orange stain that made it appear dark due to the film used at the time period.

For my build I went with a middle ground leaning to orange, not too dark on the interior bits just thinking it would look better than a very dark brown color in there....
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 02, 2021, 10:06:44 PM
Hi Rick ,

As for the interior wood tones no one really knows , but I don't think the interior was slacked like the outside of the fuselage . So you can go light or dark or something in between . I did the same as Patrick did staying in the middle range leaning to orange with yellow undertones .


Alexis 
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 02, 2021, 10:30:07 PM
Thanks to all for the suggestions on the wood! Patrick and Alexis, I have your builds bookmarked and have referred to both several times already, along with the builds of Mike and Lance  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 06, 2021, 08:51:05 AM
So I went with a mid tone wood grain with a Tamiya clear orange overspray.
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 06, 2021, 10:42:52 AM
Excellent Rick , that looks really sharp !


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: DaveB on May 07, 2021, 01:28:09 AM
Wood tones on the interior look good, Rick.

When I built this one some years ago I went with dark wood tone, but I think now I should have gone with a lighter shade like this.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 07, 2021, 05:49:59 AM
Excellent Rick , that looks really sharp !


Alexis

Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII

Wood tones on the interior look good, Rick.

When I built this one some years ago I went with dark wood tone, but I think now I should have gone with a lighter shade like this.

Regards

Dave

Thanks Dave. Like was said earlier who knows what "Shade/Tone" is correct. For all we know it could have been painted in "red primer"  :o I am ready to start actual construction now.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 07, 2021, 10:34:39 PM
I did a small amount of work on the interior yesterday. Next up is touch up on the frames/stick, and adding instrument dials/wiring etc.
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 07, 2021, 11:12:43 PM
Looking realllly excellent Rick !

For the panel behind the pilot , did you back this with sheet stock ?


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 07, 2021, 11:22:34 PM
Looking realllly excellent Rick !

For the panel behind the pilot , did you back this with sheet stock ?


Alexis

Thanks Alexis, and Yes I took the idea from your build  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: PrzemoL on May 08, 2021, 12:29:38 AM
Very nice. Seeing your work on this Roden kit makes me thinking, I maybe get one, too. It is a so much appealing crate...
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 08, 2021, 12:54:15 AM
Very nice. Seeing your work on this Roden kit makes me thinking, I maybe get one, too. It is a so much appealing crate...

Thanks Przemo. I would Love to see what you would acheive with this kit! I am sure the results would be Superb  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: lone modeller on May 08, 2021, 01:11:33 AM
Sorry Rick but this one slipped under my radar and i had not seen that you had started. What you have done so far is well up to your usual very high standard- I hope it continues and that the gremlins whi have been bothering your builds of late will have been banished to somewhere else.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 08, 2021, 02:29:53 AM
Sorry Rick but this one slipped under my radar and i had not seen that you had started. What you have done so far is well up to your usual very high standard- I hope it continues and that the gremlins whi have been bothering your builds of late will have been banished to somewhere else.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. I am with you on banishing those Gremlins  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RichieW on May 08, 2021, 03:41:03 AM
Looking great o far Rick, I really like the wood tone you went for. The internal details look excellent too.

Richie
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Bughunter on May 08, 2021, 05:10:42 AM
Really pity that most of this art will be hidden. Like my Eduard one - I painted the fuel tank brass, but it is hidden completely!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Borsos on May 09, 2021, 07:52:58 AM
Great start on the Siemens Schuckert, Rick! They still have this rotary hanging from a factory wall of Siemens in Nuremberg. Sadly it’s not open for public visiting.
Best regards,
Andreas
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 09, 2021, 11:01:37 AM
Looking great o far Rick, I really like the wood tone you went for. The internal details look excellent too.

Richie

Thanks Richie. I should have an update by tomorrow evening.
RAGIII

Really pity that most of this art will be hidden. Like my Eduard one - I painted the fuel tank brass, but it is hidden completely!

Cheers,
Frank

Thanks Frank. I am not going all out with details. Just what will be seen.
RAGIII


Great start on the Siemens Schuckert, Rick! They still have this rotary hanging from a factory wall of Siemens in Nuremberg. Sadly it’s not open for public visiting.
Best regards,
Andreas

Thanks Andreas. Too bad that it can't be seen.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 10, 2021, 11:20:03 AM
I have made a lot of progress on the interior. Some Bren Gun PE, Eduard and WNW Instruments, and strtched sprue wires. The seatbelts are from a WNW DVII. Lots of touch up needed but shouldn't be to bad to do. I also started the process of altering the hand hold openings and bar on the rear fuselage sides.
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/7Lkf085X/IMG-20210509-195027448.jpg)

PS: Although the Bren Gun PE seat back is perfect for the wood seat with lightening holes I couldn't help but think it would have been leather padded in service. I therefore used the kit seat.  ( The only photos I have show it pretty much stripped down or unknown if on an operational DIII. I could be wrong but I like the results.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 10, 2021, 07:50:27 PM
Lovely job on the pit Rick ! I even like your choice on the seat , looks really good  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 10, 2021, 09:49:32 PM
Lovely job on the pit Rick ! I even like your choice on the seat , looks really good  :)


Alexis

Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RichieW on May 11, 2021, 01:13:55 AM
Excellent work again Rick, the interior detailing looks very convincing. I think you must be right about the leather padding on the seat, it would surely have been too uncomfortable without it. Your leather cour look great too. 😀
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Fvdm on May 11, 2021, 03:34:28 AM
Nice interior Rick. I especially like the seat and seatbelts.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Monty on May 11, 2021, 04:07:22 AM
Wow, Rick! I take my eyes off the new posts for a few days and this appears! What lovely details so far, looking really good with lovely wood tones.. I will follow for sure.... Marc
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2021, 09:12:53 AM
Excellent work again Rick, the interior detailing looks very convincing. I think you must be right about the leather padding on the seat, it would surely have been too uncomfortable without it. Your leather color look great too. 😀

Thanks Richie. I made some progress today. Photos to follow  8)
RAGIII

Nice interior Rick. I especially like the seat and seatbelts.

Thanks. The seat belts were one of the major things needing touch up...done now!
RAGIII

Wow, Rick! I take my eyes off the new posts for a few days and this appears! What lovely details so far, looking really good with lovely wood tones.. I will follow for sure.... Marc

Thanks Marc. Like I said touch up is done and I have made progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2021, 09:17:04 AM
So today I did the interior touch up. Once again I am going "Out of the Box" construction wise. I have glued the left fuselage to the wing and lower wing center section. This will make it easier for Me to do the control wires in the interior. I have tested to make sure I can properly locate the right fuselage side and all seems well  ::)
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: coyotemagic on May 11, 2021, 09:23:02 AM
Outstanding craftsmanship as always, Amigo! Your productivity has me green with envy!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2021, 09:55:27 AM
Outstanding craftsmanship as always, Amigo! Your productivity has me green with envy!
Cheers,
Bud

Thanks Amigo. I envy your quality 😎 8)
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RichieW on May 11, 2021, 06:08:56 PM
Wonderful stuff Rick, lovely subtle wood grain, superb details and that DR1 has a real wow factor. I must check the build thread for that one. The streaking looks amazing.
Richie
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 11, 2021, 10:06:44 PM
Wonderful stuff Rick, lovely subtle wood grain, superb details and that DR1 has a real wow factor. I must check the build thread for that one. The streaking looks amazing.
Richie

Thanks Richie your comments are appreciated. The DR1 just kind of Snuck into the photos  ::) There is no build log,.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 11, 2021, 10:59:12 PM
Excellent idea on fixing the one side of the fuselage to the lower wing . I did the same even on Toko's 72 scale kit .
 How is the fit of the lower wing ? I had to do some sanding but I did this to the lower wing so there would still be enough plastic on the root area of the fuselage . I had this fear that if I sanded that area down it would have been a weak join .


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: lone modeller on May 12, 2021, 04:58:30 AM
That interior looks very good Rick. I do like te idea of putting one half of the fuselage i place and then adding cockpit details. This site has an endless stream of good ideas.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Manni on May 12, 2021, 06:11:13 PM
Very nice interieur! It looks really good.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 12, 2021, 09:40:09 PM
Excellent idea on fixing the one side of the fuselage to the lower wing . I did the same even on Toko's 72 scale kit .
 How is the fit of the lower wing ? I had to do some sanding but I did this to the lower wing so there would still be enough plastic on the root area of the fuselage . I had this fear that if I sanded that area down it would have been a weak join .


Alexis

Thanks Alexis. The fit was tough and yes I sanded the wing root. I still needed some Sprue Goo to fill some spaces  ;D
RAGIII

That interior looks very good Rick. I do like te idea of putting one half of the fuselage i place and then adding cockpit details. This site has an endless stream of good ideas.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. The idea worked on this one but there are many that doing one half at a time would Not work on  8)

RAGIII

Very nice interieur! It looks really good.
Bye,
Manni

Thanks Manni!
RAGIII

Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: DaveB on May 13, 2021, 01:40:11 AM
Excellent progress, Rick -

Your cockpit on this one looks great!

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 13, 2021, 09:57:10 AM
Excellent progress, Rick -

Your cockpit on this one looks great!

Regards

Dave

Thanks Dave! Here is the latest as of today! By the way a hairy stick has been used for the red  8)
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 13, 2021, 11:40:33 AM
Awesome Rick ! Must have taken a while painting the red with " One hair stick "  ;) Also looks like you have the wing root well at hand , looks good Rick .


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Fvdm on May 13, 2021, 02:32:15 PM
With the fuselage buttoned up it seems there is a lot see of the beautiful interior. Nice work.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RichieW on May 13, 2021, 05:26:50 PM
That's gone together very well Rick, it's always exciting when the first splash of colour goes on.

Richie
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: kensar on May 13, 2021, 10:28:52 PM
Nice progress, Rick.  That red color will make for an interesting color scheme.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2021, 07:34:14 AM
Awesome Rick ! Must have taken a while painting the red with " One hair stick "  ;) Also looks like you have the wing root well at hand , looks good Rick .


Alexis

Thanks Alexis  ;D The wing root seems to be under control. I will see when I begin the painting stage!
RAGIII

With the fuselage buttoned up it seems there is a lot see of the beautiful interior. Nice work.

Thanks. More is visible than in some aircraft  8)
RAGIII


That's gone together very well Rick, it's always exciting when the first splash Yeah, I always hate the stage of the build before paint goes on. ( Filling, Sanding, etc. )
RAGIII

Nice progress, Rick.  That red color will make for an interesting color scheme.

Thanks Ken. I may tone it down just a tad  ::)
RAGIII

Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: lone modeller on May 14, 2021, 08:08:58 AM
Certainly looks good Rick. I agree with Richie that starting the painting on a model is always a positive step.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Matti on May 14, 2021, 03:19:34 PM
Very nice work on the interior parts.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Bughunter on May 14, 2021, 04:53:28 PM
Sorry Rick, forgot the Post button yesterday again after Preview the answer ::)

That will be a nice little Siemens-Schuckert! Very nice progress. I like the idea to paint already in this state the area blow the MGs. This makes the later masking easier. As I have used those barrels and jackets from Master I prepared only the mounting and added the front part of the MGs after fuselage paint job.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2021, 10:09:14 PM
Certainly looks good Rick. I agree with Richie that starting the painting on a model is always a positive step.

Stephen.

As always thanks for the comments Stephen!
RAGIII

Very nice work on the interior parts.

Thank Matti!
RAGIII

Sorry Rick, forgot the Post button yesterday again after Preview the answer ::)

That will be a nice little Siemens-Schuckert! Very nice progress. I like the idea to paint already in this state the area blow the MGs. This makes the later masking easier. As I have used those barrels and jackets from Master I prepared only the mounting and added the front part of the MGs after fuselage paint job.

Cheers,
Frank

Thanks Frank. I tend to paint that area on Most of My builds for that very reason. I am using the Spandaus from an old scrapped kit so they were pretty much already assembled. Just need to straighten out a couple of kinks  8)
 
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 19, 2021, 10:47:40 PM
My decal order has arrived just in time. I need to touch up the white base for the lozenge as it lifted in a couple of spots then on to applying lozenge! I also painted the remainder of the fuselage. One coat hand brushed then another airbrushed. To me the original looks rough and hastily painted. ( It is also covered with oil on the forward fuselage  :o

RAGIII


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RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RichieW on May 19, 2021, 11:23:28 PM
Lovely stuff Rick, it looks beautiful already. A stunner in the making.

Richie
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 19, 2021, 11:32:18 PM
That is really looking good Rick .  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: DaveB on May 20, 2021, 01:22:59 AM
Great progress, Rick -

This is going to be a colourful bird!

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 20, 2021, 11:57:50 AM
Lovely stuff Rick, it looks beautiful already. A stunner in the making.

Richie

Thanks Richie!
RAGIII

That is really looking good Rick .  :)


Alexis

Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII

Great progress, Rick -

This is going to be a colourful bird!

Regards

Dave

Thanks Dave! Yes quite colorful indeed!

I did all of the touch up today. Now ready to start the Lozenge Decals!
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Dave Brewer on May 20, 2021, 01:43:47 PM
Coming up great Rick, those PE cooling vents look really good, must have been fun getting that large piece to conform to the fuselage without affecting them.
Cheers,
Dave.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Manni on May 20, 2021, 03:37:16 PM
Indeed, the cowling looks great, like the rest of the plane.
I am  curious about the decals will look.
Bye, Manni
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 20, 2021, 09:51:29 PM
Coming up great Rick, those PE cooling vents look really good, must have been fun getting that large piece to conform to the fuselage without affecting them.
Cheers,
Dave.

Thanks Dave. I wish I could say the panel went on with no damage to those vents  ::) I was able to "Mostly" straighten them after  assembly  8)
RAGIII

Indeed, the cowling looks great, like the rest of the plane.
I am  curious about the decals will look.
Bye, Manni

Thanks Manni!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: lone modeller on May 21, 2021, 04:48:10 AM
Those vents do look convincing Rick, and at least they are on the underside where any irregularities will not be obvious. The "rough" coloration on the original was probably rough because it was applied in a hurry by a ground-crewman in a hurry who had been allocated the job and wanted to finish it quickly so that he could have a beer and go to bed! I sometimes think that we modellers forget how rough and ready some aircraft markings were: a close study of photographs sometimes reveals that finishes were a bit "rough" if they had been applied in the field. For me at least, "rough" means realistic, but I am aware that (as usual) I am in a minority!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 21, 2021, 06:15:25 AM
Those vents do look convincing Rick, and at least they are on the underside where any irregularities will not be obvious. The "rough" coloration on the original was probably rough because it was applied in a hurry by a ground-crewman in a hurry who had been allocated the job and wanted to finish it quickly so that he could have a beer and go to bed! I sometimes think that we modellers forget how rough and ready some aircraft markings were: a close study of photographs sometimes reveals that finishes were a bit "rough" if they had been applied in the field. For me at least, "rough" means realistic, but I am aware that (as usual) I am in a minority!

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen and of course I agree about the rough hastily painted Markings. A look at Almenroeders and MvR's Albatros DIII's are a prime example!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 21, 2021, 10:28:34 PM
The chin pan isn't an easy roll , nice work on that Rick  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 21, 2021, 10:57:31 PM
The chin pan isn't an easy roll , nice work on that Rick  :)


Alexis

Thanks Alexis! I am now trying to figure out how I will attach the landing gear leg to that panel? All suggestions are welcome  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 22, 2021, 12:26:38 AM
Hi Rick ,

I had to go back to my build thread to check on how I did it . Couldn't remember  ::) I ended up drilling location holes in the brass chin ( bigger )? and pinned the struts in place .

Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Matti on May 22, 2021, 03:15:07 AM
Moving along nicely !

How long it took for those Aviattic decals to arrive? I have been waiting my order for two weeks now, usually it took 1 week from UK to Finland, after Brexit who knows   :-\
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 22, 2021, 04:08:40 AM
Hi Rick ,

I had to go back to my build thread to check on how I did it . Couldn't remember  ::) I ended up drilling location holes in the brass chin ( bigger )? and pinned the struts in place .

Alexis

Thanks Alexis. I guess I will be forced to get some of those Carbide Drill bits as I don't think My XACTO bits will do the job. Any recommendations on sizes for drilling and pinning struts and of course rigging holes?
RAGIII

Moving along nicely !

How long it took for those Aviattic decals to arrive? I have been waiting my order for two weeks now, usually it took 1 week from UK to Finland, after Brexit who knows   :-\

Thanks Matti! It took just a few days shorty of a month. That isn't surprising as our US Postal system has been pretty bad in the last year. It used to take just a couple of weeks!  :'(
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 22, 2021, 07:41:17 AM
Hi Rick ,

I didn't have any troubles drilling the brass . It's thin enough for an X-Acto drill bit to work . I believe I used 0.05mm for the bit and brass rod for the pins . Could have been 0.04mm as well . The holes on the chin can also be enlarged with a rounded needle file .


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 22, 2021, 02:02:57 PM
Hi Rick ,

I didn't have any troubles drilling the brass . It's thin enough for an X-Acto drill bit to work . I believe I used 0.05mm for the bit and brass rod for the pins . Could have been 0.04mm as well . The holes on the chin can also be enlarged with a rounded needle file .


Alexis

Thanks Alexis, I will give it a shot with what I have on hand. So today I made more progress. I have applied the Aviatic Lozenge to the undersides. I used the "Fresh" version as I figured this one was acquired by Udet and saw little service. Lower wing covered spanwise and upper is 45 degree angle! I also used a Mix of Tamiya Clear Orange and Smoke to simulate fresh oil stains. I kind of like the results  8)
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Fvdm on May 22, 2021, 04:35:48 PM
I like the lozenge and the red fuselage.  Nice and colourful.  The clear orange and smoke looks very good. One can think you used real oil.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: ermeio on May 22, 2021, 07:06:34 PM
Veri nice effect, Richard!
er me
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 22, 2021, 10:02:00 PM
Thumbs up Rick , looking very very nice !


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RichieW on May 22, 2021, 10:20:28 PM
Super work Rick, this is looking really beautiful. Those oil stains looks perfect. I watched a video on YouTube of a Bristol Scout which showed before and after photos at an air display. The oil stains looked very much like what you have done.

Richie
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Monty on May 23, 2021, 12:48:25 AM
Amazing work on this one, Rick! I do like the extra detail and your colour rendition is superb! Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 23, 2021, 12:50:37 AM
I like the lozenge and the red fuselage.  Nice and colourful.  The clear orange and smoke looks very good. One can think you used real oil.

Thanks Ferry!

Veri nice effect, Richard!
er me

Thanks GP! I will continue to experiment with the Mix.
RAGIII

Thumbs up Rick , looking very very nice !


Alexis

Thanks Alexis. I managed to add the lozenge to the top side of the upper wing before I gave out last night  ;D
RAGIII

Super work Rick, this is looking really beautiful. Those oil stains looks perfect. I watched a video on YouTube of a Bristol Scout which showed before and after photos at an air display. The oil stains looked very much like what you have done.

Richie

Thanks for the comment Richie!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 23, 2021, 12:53:24 AM
Amazing work on this one, Rick! I do like the extra detail and your colour rendition is superb! Regards, Marc.

Thanks Marc. The color looks a little less bright in real life  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: DaveB on May 23, 2021, 01:32:58 AM
Good progress, Rick

I can also see that you have also done a neat job on getting the lower wing on as well

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 23, 2021, 02:25:09 AM
Good progress, Rick

I can also see that you have also done a neat job on getting the lower wing on as well

Regards

Dave

Thanks Dave. Sprue Goo was My friend  on that wing join  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: lone modeller on May 23, 2021, 03:51:35 AM
Those oil stains do look realistic, and the addition of the lozenge on the wings is transforming this model. I can see another suprb model in your cabinet shortly.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 23, 2021, 04:19:09 AM
Those oil stains do look realistic, and the addition of the lozenge on the wings is transforming this model. I can see another suprb model in your cabinet shortly.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen! I still have one major hurdle and a "hopefully" minor one. Mounting the upper wing and landing gear  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 24, 2021, 12:18:22 PM
My fingers a crossed that this works in your favor Rick .

Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 24, 2021, 02:45:13 PM
My fingers a crossed that this works in your favor Rick .

Alexis

Thanks Alexis...Me Too  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: gedmundson on May 25, 2021, 05:35:21 AM
Great work Rick!
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 25, 2021, 10:40:56 PM
Great work Rick!
Cheers,
Gary

Thanks Gart!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 27, 2021, 10:56:24 AM
So today I finished applying the Aviattic Lozenge to the upper surfaces. I also applied the kit LO decal to the right side of the fuselage. The Roden Decal worked perfectly in this case! Photos taken on the day of the publicity flight of Udet flying this bird show the LO only on the right side so that is what I am going with. Next up is rib and edging tapes !
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 27, 2021, 11:07:21 AM
She is really starting to look the part Rick , nice work on the loz !


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 27, 2021, 11:47:20 AM
She is really starting to look the part Rick , nice work on the loz !


Alexis

Thanks for commenting Alexis!'RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Manni on May 27, 2021, 07:42:29 PM
Wonderful build, Rick. The lozenge looks great and lifts the Roden kit to a higher level.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RichieW on May 27, 2021, 08:16:08 PM
Lovely work Rick, those lozenge decals look great. I imagine they need to applied with great care.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 28, 2021, 12:36:04 AM
Wonderful build, Rick. The lozenge looks great and lifts the Roden kit to a higher level.
Bye,
Manni

Thanks Manni!
RAGIII

Lovely work Rick, those lozenge decals look great. I imagine they need to applied with great care.

Thanks Richie. The lozenge was fairly easy in this case. I used the Aviattic sheets designed for the 45 degree angle. I just cut out the pattern. The lower wings were covered span wise so just placed the wing parallel  to the line of the fabric. The next step is far more tedious  :o
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Matti on May 28, 2021, 02:58:51 AM
Good looking decals!
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: lone modeller on May 28, 2021, 03:09:03 AM
Definitely a good step forward with the lozenge and Lo markings. It was interesting to learn that the Lo was only on one side of the fuselage when publicity photos were taken.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 28, 2021, 03:20:40 AM
Definitely a good step forward with the lozenge and Lo markings. It was interesting to learn that the Lo was only on one side of the fuselage when publicity photos were taken.

Stephen.

There are No Known photos that show the Lo emblem applied to the left fuselage. IIRC, Udet was wounded the following day flying his DVII. He later returned to the Jasta but too late to do any more combat flying. It is therefore doubtful that the LO! was ever added to the left....But who knows for sure  ???
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Bughunter on May 28, 2021, 06:11:04 AM
Awesome!
Great progress now in this project.
Do you plan to add rib tapes? Ok ok, this may slow down your progress ....

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: kensar on May 28, 2021, 06:35:17 AM
Very nice looking, Rick.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 28, 2021, 10:03:57 PM
Awesome!
Great progress now in this project.
Do you plan to add rib tapes? Ok ok, this may slow down your progress ....

Cheers,
Frank

Yes, the rib tapes will take a while Frank  :D
RAGIII

Very nice looking, Rick.

Thanks Ken!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: DaveB on May 29, 2021, 01:32:14 AM
Great progress here, Rick -

A model always seems to come more to life once you start to get the decals on.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: mgunns on May 29, 2021, 03:30:01 AM
Looking good so far Rick:

Just to be different I would put the "LO" on both sides, but that's me.  It probably wore them at one time.  Looking forward to the final "Reveal".
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 29, 2021, 03:39:08 AM
Great progress here, Rick -

A model always seems to come more to life once you start to get the decals on.

Regards

Dave

I agree completely. They do make things look much better!
RAGIII

Looking good so far Rick:

Just to be different I would put the "LO" on both sides, but that's me.  It probably wore them at one time.  Looking forward to the final "Reveal".

The "Funny" thing is that by Not Putting on the LO on both sides I am going against the Norm. Most Modelers apply it to both sides in spite of the photographic evidence  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 29, 2021, 05:51:44 AM
Before I progress further I have two questions:
1. I see some builds that used edging on the leading and trailing edge, and others that have not. Is there a consensus?
2. The upper wing fit to the struts: I have seen Various differing solutions from No mods to shortening the rear of the interplane strut, thru Shortening the rear cabane strut. Again, any consensus?

Thanks for all advice,
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on May 29, 2021, 11:09:51 AM
Hi Rick ,

I didn't add taping the edges of the main wings . After studying photo's it is really hard to tell , but I can't see that join not being protected . Whether they should be coloured is another question as well . Some folks have used blue tapes or a linen tape for this and I don't think that is over accurate . Lozenge tapes make more sense to me and is likely what they used . In the end Rick no one really knows for as we know a lot of info was lost of the years man has been at war and lost to time . Also taken into account that this is a late model D.III , early version could have had coloured tapes .

The cab struts are the right length , inter struts need to be trimmed . The front strut needs more shortening then it's rear counterpart . Can't recall , but trim to fit works  ;)


Alexis   
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Fvdm on May 29, 2021, 03:22:13 PM
The lozenge looks real good. Applying the ribtapes isn't an easy job but you already know that I presume.  Take your time.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on May 30, 2021, 11:18:54 PM
Hi Rick ,

I didn't add taping the edges of the main wings . After studying photo's it is really hard to tell , but I can't see that join not being protected . Whether they should be coloured is another question as well . Some folks have used blue tapes or a linen tape for this and I don't think that is over accurate . Lozenge tapes make more sense to me and is likely what they used . In the end Rick no one really knows for as we know a lot of info was lost of the years man has been at war and lost to time . Also taken into account that this is a late model D.III , early version could have had coloured tapes .

The cab struts are the right length , inter struts need to be trimmed . The front strut needs more shortening then it's rear counterpart . Can't recall , but trim to fit works  ;)


Alexis   

Thanks Alexis. I will continue to study the other build logs before I attempt to attach the wing.
RAGIII

The lozenge looks real good. Applying the ribtapes isn't an easy job but you already know that I presume.  Take your time.

Thanks. I am halfway through the upper wing as of this morning.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on June 01, 2021, 11:09:06 PM
How are your taping adventures coming along ? ....no pressure  ::) :o ;)


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: lone modeller on June 02, 2021, 04:56:43 AM
Putting rib tapes on is a task that would drive me utterly crazy. You must have the patience of a saint Rick!!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 02, 2021, 11:56:18 PM
How are your taping adventures coming along ? ....no pressure  ::) :o ;)


Alexis

It has been slow and at times frustrating  :( More on the Frustrating Part later.
RAGIII

Putting rib tapes on is a task that would drive me utterly crazy. You must have the patience of a saint Rick!!

Stephen.

There are a lot of them to deal with on this aircraft. Hopefully all done and touched up by tomorrow  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 03, 2021, 11:12:28 PM
I have "Mostly" finished the tapes and applied the kit crosses. I found the whole lozenge and tape process to be frustrating. I have used Aviattic decals before with no issues but this time I just couldn't get things right. MY problem not the decals. For one thing Richard kindly supplied the lozenge on white backing for cutting the tapes. I wasted as much as I used. I just couldn't get consistent narrow strips. In the end I used WNW tapes on the lower wing. Not quite as correct color wise but easier for me. Because of My issues I have lots of touch up to do.
RAGIII


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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RichieW on June 03, 2021, 11:26:28 PM
Despite the frustrations with the decals that really does look absolutely stunning Rick!
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on June 03, 2021, 11:34:42 PM
I know all to well what that frustrating feels like and it's not pleasant .

It does look sharp though Rick , well done so far .

For cutting consistent rib tapes I place to # 11 blades together with a spacer in between them  ;)


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: DaveB on June 04, 2021, 02:43:51 AM
Looking lovely so far, Rick -

Rib tape decals are a pain in the a.....!  I can never seem to get them on nice and straight so feel your pain.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Monty on June 04, 2021, 03:00:12 AM
Looking good, Rick in spite of the rib tape difficulties. And rib tapes can be just like that... difficult and infuriating, but worth it in the end, I think! Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 04, 2021, 03:41:52 AM
Despite the frustrations with the decals that really does look absolutely stunning Rick!

Thanks Richie!
RAGIII

I know all to well what that frustrating feels like and it's not pleasant .

It does look sharp though Rick , well done so far .

For cutting consistent rib tapes I place to # 11 blades together with a spacer in between them  ;)


Alexis

Thanks Alexis. I thought about the XACTO blade thing but was too stubborn to set it up  :o
RAGIII

Looking lovely so far, Rick -

Rib tape decals are a pain in the a.....!  I can never seem to get them on nice and straight so feel your pain.

Regards

Dave

Trust Me mine aren't all straight either !
RAGIII

Looking good, Rick in spite of the rib tape difficulties. And rib tapes can be just like that... difficult and infuriating, but worth it in the end, I think! Regards, Marc.

Thanks Marc. By the way it wasn't just the tapes. I  also had trouble with the trailing edges of the Lozenge itself. That part is unusual for Me.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: lone modeller on June 04, 2021, 04:07:51 AM
You may have had your patience tested Rick but the result looks very good from where I am sitting. I try to avoid types which had lozenge fabric surfaces - now I know why...

Stephen.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 04, 2021, 07:47:04 AM
You may have had your patience tested Rick but the result looks very good from where I am sitting. I try to avoid types which had lozenge fabric surfaces - now I know why...

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. It will be OK once I do the final touch up! That being said today I attached the landing gear and cabane struts. I am getting Very Close to the real test of mounting and aligning the upper wing  8)
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on June 04, 2021, 10:02:15 PM
Too my eye , that turned out super Rick  :) Even if you were a little stubborn   ;)  I also really like the prop !


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 04, 2021, 10:29:05 PM
Too my eye , that turned out super Rick  :) Even if you were a little stubborn   ;)  I also really like the prop !


Alexis

Thanks Alexis. I hope even better after I touch up some of the glitches I created  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: kensar on June 05, 2021, 02:15:01 AM
This is coming together well, Rick.  I do like the paint scheme.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RichieW on June 05, 2021, 02:28:31 AM
Time well spent I'd say. The rib tapes look great and add a lot to the overall impression.

Richie
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 05, 2021, 06:44:39 AM
This is coming together well, Rick.  I do like the paint scheme.

Thanks Ken! I May have said this earlier but I never really cared for this aircraft. After starting this build and applying the colors I now realize it really is pretty cool  8)
RAGIII


Time well spent I'd say. The rib tapes look great and add a lot to the overall impression.

Richie

Thanks Richie, Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on June 05, 2021, 08:32:22 AM
I'm really getting the hampering to pull one of Eduards kit out of the stash form following your build Rick .  ;)


Alexis

Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 06, 2021, 08:20:45 PM
I'm really getting the hampering to pull one of Eduards kit out of the stash form following your build Rick .  ;)


Alexis

Go for it Alexis. I think I mentioned that I never really cared Much for the SSW DIII until I started this one. It Grows on You  8) In thee Meantime I am one step closer to having the wing in place. Attached the upper wing to the cabanes. Now the Hard part...getting the interplane struts to fit  ::) Then I will need to touch up the lozenge in all of the places I messed it up through handling.
RAGIII




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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: pepperman42 on June 06, 2021, 09:41:58 PM
For some reason I missed this entire build!! Great looking bird!!

Steve
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on June 06, 2021, 10:00:33 PM
Not much longer now until this one is wrap up . This one is going fairly quick for you so this tells me you are really enjoying this one !  8)

She is looking awesome so far my friend  :) I will be doing another one but the bench needs to be cleared first .

Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 07, 2021, 01:14:06 AM
For some reason I missed this entire build!! Great looking bird!!

Steve

Thanks for dropping in and commenting Steve!
RAGIII


Not much longer now until this one is wrap up . This one is going fairly quick for you so this tells me you are really enjoying this one !  8)

She is looking awesome so far my friend  :) I will be doing another one but the bench needs to be cleared first .

Alexis

Thanks Alexis! You are correct in that I am enjoying this build...so far. I still have the Interplane struts to fit without  accidentally breaking loose the cabanes  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 07, 2021, 11:03:47 AM
Today I managed to get the Interplane struts attached. Oddly no trimming was needed...as a matter of fact they were a bit short in a couple of different areas. Probably the way My cabane struts were seated and a small alignment error. The left strut will need some paper or thin sheet to make the rear bottom look right. Then touch up, 5 parts to add, tail rigging, and a very small amount of weathering. Overall I am pleased. Oh, the main rigging is also complete  8)
RAGIII




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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: mess on June 07, 2021, 07:04:28 PM
Nice one!

M.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RichieW on June 07, 2021, 09:20:49 PM
Brilliant work Rick, a proper eyeball pleaser!
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 08, 2021, 12:04:33 AM
Nice one!

M.

Thanks for the comment!
RAGIII

Brilliant work Rick, a proper eyeball pleaser!

Thanks Richie!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on June 08, 2021, 12:49:24 AM
Glad to hear that the fitting of the intern struts didn't need trimming after all . She looks fantastic Rick and the rigging turned out Awesome !!!


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: DaveB on June 08, 2021, 02:05:12 AM
Looking great, Rick -

Strangely enough I also had the same problem with the interplane struts so likely a flaw in the kit I think.

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 08, 2021, 03:04:25 AM
Glad to hear that the fitting of the intern struts didn't need trimming after all . She looks fantastic Rick and the rigging turned out Awesome !!!


Alexis

Thanks Alexis. I forgot that I do still need to paint the wires and add the Faux Turnbuckles  ;D
RAGIII

Looking great, Rick -

Strangely enough I also had the same problem with the interplane struts so likely a flaw in the kit I think.

Regards

Dave

It is kind of funny in that some like I said earlier think the cabanes are the issue and others have had to trim the interplane struts. If I wasn't so stubborn a wing alignment jig would help, Maybe. Perhaps I need to start saving MY Money for one  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Matti on June 08, 2021, 04:17:04 AM
Looking good even it's not finished yet.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 08, 2021, 05:11:12 AM
Looking good even it's not finished yet.

Thanks Matti! I am hoping to wrap it up this week  ???
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Manni on June 08, 2021, 05:45:42 AM
Wonderful work, Rick. Looking so satisfying with the Lozenge. Looking forward for the end result.
Bye Manni
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 08, 2021, 06:09:00 AM
Wonderful work, Rick. Looking so satisfying with the Lozenge. Looking forward for the end result.
Bye Manni

Thanks Manni.  Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 08, 2021, 10:41:40 AM
I will hopefully finish this one by Wednesday. So the last photo prior to the finish:
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Alexis on June 08, 2021, 09:30:02 PM
Love the black and white photo !

Looking forward on seeing this in the complete section  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: lone modeller on June 09, 2021, 04:56:45 AM
I miss a couple of days and the modelling machine nearly finishes another model! This looks the best Rick. Like Alexis I too like the b & w photo. Looking forward to seeing this one in the gallery.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 09, 2021, 10:27:36 PM
Love the black and white photo !

Looking forward on seeing this in the complete section  :)


Alexis

Hopefully soon Alexis  8)
RAGIII

I miss a couple of days and the modelling machine nearly finishes another model! This looks the best Rick. Like Alexis I too like the b & w photo. Looking forward to seeing this one in the gallery.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. It has become a Habit to take at least one photo and back date it 100 years  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 12, 2021, 12:07:55 PM
I have painted the rigging, touched up, and done the final clear coats. Getting ready to post photos in the completed section. Thanks to all for following along!
RAGIII



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Link to the completed Models section:

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12282.0
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: Fvdm on June 24, 2021, 07:12:15 AM
I'm a little late to the party but I think you did a great job on this one.  What a great model.
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: RAGIII on June 24, 2021, 11:18:28 PM
I'm a little late to the party but I think you did a great job on this one.  What a great model.

Thanks for the comment!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Roden 1/32nd Scale SSW DIII: Udet Jasta 4
Post by: dr 1 ace on June 26, 2021, 01:56:32 AM
Another colorful addition to the collection, await final pics in comleted section.

Ed