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Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 15.5.21 The end
Post by: Bughunter on April 06, 2021, 05:51:13 AM
Clerget 9Z


After the finish of my Halberstadt I had a little motivation hole. I poked here and there in the parts of the existing projects and made some progress, but the spark didn't take. There was also nice weather and the spring started ...

So finally I pulled a new Small Stuff package out of the stash and build a Clerget 9Z 110 hp (the kit allows a 9B 130 hp or the 9Z) 

With the ignition wires you see here exact 90 parts! That's more parts than my airplane kits usually have!

The first main parts. You have to take special care for the valve lifter mounts to not break them during mounting process.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1g2ii23-i9l-_if3dBNGlSN8HHp6v7KaI)


Painted with Alclad Alu, Exhaust manifold on the heads, Hot metal sepia. As last step the 18 ignition wires are added here.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=10cG8iYIVfe0r4SefpFz22_8tsu0dyqzN)


A light wash with oil paint, looks very prominent.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1SWQUPAsKUA_9GHC6YH5bDJL7BZVt5zMc)


Here I used a polarising filter in front of the lens. This is more the real look, the wash is less obvious.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=16k6Xq4nJyAskNMLssgptvH4Q0BZKCVKW)


In comparison to the kit engine:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1TW4Ruk7iLIS1rHm-KUwpBTK4OsgqEfdC)


On the back side of the kit resin there are also the intake pipes, but ....
On the back of my engine you can see the bearing for easy rotation. 
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1GJDUP-5Uyr5mFGJGLZQYsLNq36qhL1Pu)


Now there are certainly the wildest speculations about what type of aircraft could be behind it 8)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Clerget 9Z, 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on April 06, 2021, 05:55:37 AM
Superb work on the Engine Frank. Your painting is amazing as are the details! You have wanted to build a DR1 so I guess Jacobs bird is on the way  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Clerget 9Z, 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on April 06, 2021, 06:17:09 AM
Phew, you’re back Frank.. I was getting worried!

Superb engine work! I too am wondering what you are going to mount it to!

Guy
Title: Re: Clerget 9Z, 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on April 06, 2021, 08:00:51 AM
Thank you Rick and Guy!

I was getting worried!
That's sweet that you cared. In today's fast-moving times, this has unfortunately become unusual.

No Rick, no Dr.I :-\ (I was not even aware, that there there was a Clerget Dr.I)

I too am wondering what you are going to mount it to!
Surprise, surprise ;)
As you can guess form the shown kit "engine" I will try to tackle my first resin kit! Let's see ...

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Clerget 9Z, 1/48
Post by: hrcoleman66 on April 06, 2021, 08:29:47 AM
Really nice job!

I just had a couple of these delivered in the mail along with the 7 and 9 cylinder Gnomes.  I looked in the bags and saw how small everything was and thought to my self, I need stronger lenses on my Optivisor.

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Clerget 9Z, 1/48
Post by: Alexis on April 06, 2021, 09:18:13 AM
Cool , Frank is going to be building a resin kit !


Alexis
Title: Re: Clerget 9Z, 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on April 06, 2021, 09:36:08 PM
I Look forward to seeing your Magic on a resin build Frank!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Clerget 9Z, 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on April 07, 2021, 01:22:00 AM
As usual you have worked your magic on a super kit and turned it inot something even better.

The Small Stuff engines really are the bees knees when it comes to AM parts - they could easily be left as stand alone models in the own right.

I may be late but I too was wondering where you had got to - just glad to see you back and firing on all cylinders!  BTW I too know about being in a dip - had quite a few of those lately, especially after I have finished a project.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Clerget 9Z, 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on April 07, 2021, 03:08:56 AM
Also a warm welcome to the show Hugh, Alexis and Stephen!

I just had a couple of these delivered in the mail along with the 7 and 9 cylinder Gnomes.  I looked in the bags and saw how small everything was and thought to my self, I need stronger lenses on my Optivisor.
Yes, due to my macro lens the Small Stuff rotaries looks big and shows nice details, but in real they are very very small - even in 1/48.
Hugh, if you not have build one yet I strongly recommend to follow the detailed build description on the Small Stuff page (link on the page and on every manual sheet provided with the kit).
This was number 15 (or something like that) so far in 1/48 and one in 1/72.

The Small Stuff engines really are the bees knees when it comes to AM parts - they could easily be left as stand alone models in the own right.
You are right Stephen, that are simply the best resin kits I know, great quality and well engineered!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Clerget 9Z, 1/48
Post by: Monty on April 07, 2021, 03:37:08 AM
Lovely engine, Frank! But waaay beyond my ability! Great to see something so well made, so detailed and the colours are fantastic! Regards, Marc.
Title: Clerget 9Z and Cockpit, 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on April 07, 2021, 03:43:34 AM
Thanks and Welcome, Marc!


Cockpit


Now I'm a owner of a new veneer of the wood "Indischer Apfel" (German), which means "indian apple", but I think the wood is also called Tineo.
It is dark red, with nearly black lines. I thought it could be used to look like mahogany, because real mahogany has openings and a structure so it can't be used for modeling in small scale.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1iWdejcFyfa6R3UUfmT2ZLBbXs_4-bfGm)


I used the new veneer for cockpit structure, because I do not like to clean up very hard and brittle resin parts.
It is totally unclear to me if this is correct or not, but there are only some pictures of this rare bird available and no cockpit pictures at all. May be the kit manufacturer had some info, so I made it at least not more wrong.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1iyFDYVBCwnfbZ6wzAQEdNQYS2L2VImQz)


Mounted into the fuselage, only the floor is not yet fixed. The instruments are from a Eduard set.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1f4HtNJZj8Hgu5LBCtOQHy7Y76Li_rMy8)


Soldered a control stick (the resin one was broken and a simple stick, which is may be wrong for that time) and a rudder control bar.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1lDXkNEUDU8zKPNebp_sFqwTwpC8WqgEV)

And all parts in place.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1o1F9ipI1yH3aRzg7yTWLaaXsuOHajdJ-)


Since this was a British aircraft I don't like the simple kit seat and soldered a wicker seat from 3 parts of a Part set for the Camel.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1u6KQyKyrJOiBLzG-DBofmLl6ULLu7Dp9)


After painting it tan I tried to show the structure with oil paint. At first with yellow ochre, it looked like a wicker seat with clear coat applied, but the structure was not noticeable.
So a second try with golden ochre, I think this is it. Only the edge will be painted leather.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Qn2h4SsuaY2vx2fP57ZkYEqclNA-9yNh)


Even fabric seat belts from HGW are mostly done, but I have to wait for the oil paint hardening to be able to close the fuselage!  :-\

Some of you may now guess the type, but with the next update I will unravel the mystery 8)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Clerget 9Z and Cockpit, 1/48
Post by: kensar on April 07, 2021, 05:17:11 AM
So, you are still not building a resin kit, but a scratchbuild!

I have no idea what plane this is. A Spitfire?   ;D

Title: Re: Clerget 9Z and Cockpit, 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on April 07, 2021, 05:42:40 AM
Bristol Scout?

(Clutching at straws...)

Guy
Title: Re: Clerget 9Z and Cockpit, 1/48
Post by: hrcoleman66 on April 07, 2021, 10:30:09 AM
Bristol Scout?

(Clutching at straws...)

Guy

Not with that Engine, but I'm stumped.

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Clerget 9Z and Cockpit, 1/48
Post by: Alexis on April 07, 2021, 11:32:22 AM
Really nice work on crafting the new cockpit parts . I must admit though Frank ...those are some real crude resin parts !


Alexis
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 7.4.21 Cowling
Post by: Bughunter on April 08, 2021, 06:14:33 AM
Ok, one more wing then Rick expected! This one will be a

Wight Quadruplane  


There are not much references about this aircraft available, and most of the pictures in a somehow bad quality, scanned from books etc.
But I found the pictures in great quality and even unknown (to me) pictures in the collections of the Imperial War Museum iwm.org.uk
But the best quality can only be viewed and not downloaded.

The National Library of Australia has another nice picture.
https://nla.gov.au:443/tarkine/nla.obj-144915317

A nice story about the development can be found here:
https://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Braas/13781.htm


My Quadruplane will be done from a resin kit by SPIN Models, it will be the second/final version after modifications.


Cowling

The kit cowling in resin was big enough to put the Clerget in, but only on the back because the cowling tapers towards the front. To thin it was no help.
So I turned a new one from alu.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1eo9__eMqg8NaEt8kWIEaWIrl51e1maGw)


The new cowling is only 0,36mm thin.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1NkWubY11jVJGnw66XGfDABS-jXzYdVR-)


I wanted also to show the very wide opening on the front, here a low quality version of a iwm.ork.uk picture:
(https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/359/495/large_000000.jpg/full/510,/0/default.jpg)


And here my interpretation, all plugged together for demo. The Clerget is able to rotate.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1oAM-7kxSLqc5nPOreDeF_fkqMZeZ46Zw)

I like the cowling, even it was some effort to create it.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 7.4.21 Cowling
Post by: Monty on April 08, 2021, 06:20:42 AM
Some simply masterful scratchbuilding of that cowling, Frank! It looks quite superb! I am watching with great interest now! ATB, Marc.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 7.4.21 Cowling
Post by: hrcoleman66 on April 08, 2021, 08:42:49 AM
What an intriguing subject.  Spin models were certainly thinking outside the box when they decided to kit this one.

I like single prototype subjects.  One of my bucket list machines is a prototype (only three built) known as the Gloster Gorcock. 

Nice cowl BTW.

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 7.4.21 Cowling
Post by: Alexis on April 08, 2021, 11:24:49 AM
Perfekte Arbeit an der Motorhaube Frank  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 7.4.21 Cowling
Post by: Gisbod on April 08, 2021, 03:25:13 PM
Ah of course, the old Wight Quadruplane, obvious really :P

That’s going to look stunning Frank! Love the cowl. I really must get a lathe...


Guy
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 7.4.21 Cowling
Post by: kensar on April 08, 2021, 10:39:52 PM
Nice work on the cowling.  It will show off the nice work on the engine.
I never would have guessed a Wight Quadruplane ( I've never heard of one).
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 7.4.21 Cowling
Post by: RAGIII on April 08, 2021, 11:16:04 PM
Beautiful work on the cowling Frank! The engine looks awesome inside of that Beauty! Certainly will be an unusual aircraft in the case when this one is finished  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 7.4.21 Cowling
Post by: Bughunter on April 09, 2021, 12:50:34 AM
Thank you Marc, Hugh, Alexis, Guy, Ken and Rick!

What an intriguing subject.  Spin models were certainly thinking outside the box when they decided to kit this one.
As far as I know this is the only kit in 1/48, but according to Scalemates there are also kits in 1/72 and even in 1/144:
https://www.scalemates.com/topics/topic.php?id=57131

According to Wikipedia there is also a non-flying replica in a museum, but the first version (that is a bit different with fairing around the struts, wheels in the lowest wing ...).

I like single prototype subjects.
Yes, me too. And especially the aircrafts of the "Triplemania", like my Pfalz D.IIIa Triplane experimental.
My book "German Aircraft of World War I" lists 500 types, and many of them was only build once. During my search on the mentioned IWM pages I found also another interesting one: the german Naglo D.II single-seat quadruplane fighter (here a low res preview)
(https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/361/254/large_000000.jpg/full/510,/0/default.jpg)


I really must get a lathe...
Guy, I must admit that this is not a toy! The forces are possible even on small machines are unbelievable! This really makes sense that operating a lathe and milling machines is a profession in itself.


Nice work on the cowling.  It will show off the nice work on the engine.
Oh yes, this one is the opposite of the Deperdussin Monocoque with it's small viewing slot to the Lambda-Lambda ;)

I never would have guessed a Wight Quadruplane ( I've never heard of one).
I checked Wikipedia, but only the 7Z and 9B pages have a list of aircrafts, not the 9Z. So that also do not help solving the little riddle ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerget_aircraft_engines


Certainly will be an unusual aircraft in the case when this one is finished  8)
You hope it will not end as shelf-queen?  ;D

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 7.4.21 Cowling
Post by: Fvdm on April 09, 2021, 02:27:32 AM
That engine looks magnificent! The plane looks a bit................odd but with this engine and cowling it can't go wrong.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 7.4.21 Cowling
Post by: lone modeller on April 09, 2021, 03:41:29 AM
Super cowling and cockpit details Frank - as Richard has written you are really scratch building this model.

I knew of the Wright Quadruplane as it is in one of the few reference books that I have which includes these prototypes, but I had forgotten about it completely. An excellent choice as I am in favour of  anything a bit unusual which appeals to my strange interests. Can we expect to see a Siemens Schuckert DDr 1 in future?

Stephen.
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: Bughunter on April 09, 2021, 04:53:11 AM
Thank you my friends!

I knew of the Wright Quadruplane as it is in one of the few reference books that I have which includes these prototypes
Stephen, do you know which one? Is there something interesting in, or only the known pictures?

Can we expect to see a Siemens Schuckert DDr 1 in future?
At least I own now the SPIN kit. So this depends a bit on the result of this project. If all goes ok, yes, one day far away in the future (I have so may interesting kits around me, I could start every day a new one ...)


And now with a hopefully interesting question!

The four wings - I broke accidentally the second lower one. Please note the line in the middle of the wings.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1bm41gFuvQ-xS1kOtZlSrIOGJ2ZRQFipQ)


In a profile view a special shaped upper surface of the wings is more obvious.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=19UpPD9MOaMUlHDPcs1O7hdNBs_LdIn5J)

The article https://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Braas/13781.htm mentions:
"All four wings had the typical Wight double-camber airfoil section."


The only picture I found showing a upper surface of a wing is this one:
(The pic is out of copyright, but I don't find a way to linked it here, it can only be viewed/downloaded).
https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-144915317/view
Please see the upper surface of the lowest wing.

So is SPIN right here?
Does anyone know about this "Wight double-camber airfoil section"?

Thanks,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: Bughunter on April 09, 2021, 06:45:46 AM
The article mentioned also Wight seaplanes so I made a search for those to find more "typical Wight" wings, and yes, it really looks like two profiles one after another.
(https://flyingmachines.ru/Images7/Flight/1914/307-2.jpg)

So I will use the wings as provided.
This was completely new to me.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: RAGIII on April 09, 2021, 09:04:34 AM
I am no expert in wing airfoils but I do like your painting  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: hrcoleman66 on April 09, 2021, 09:12:39 AM
Yes, that's a strange characteristic.  I guess back then, only 12 or so years after the first successful powered flight, aircraft designers were trying anything and everything.

I did note that this particular prototype suffered from particularly bad aerodynamics; lots of drag for no discernible increase in lift.  This was obvious to me when I saw the three view and noted that the main planes were not staggered.  So each wing would interfere with the one above or below.

Maybe Wight were trying to combat this with their "double camber" which might have reduced the amplitude of the high and low pressure waves (the primary reason most Biplanes had staggered wings).  But I can see that this would have meant that the double camber was also not very efficient as a lifting airfoil.

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: Alexis on April 09, 2021, 09:37:30 AM
Frank ,

The wing which broke are you planning on cutting the other wing off . Mounting the center section from that wing and pinning the wings ? This will give it more strength ...


Alexis
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: kensar on April 09, 2021, 10:14:57 PM
Thanks for showing the airfoil.  I was curious about the double camber airfoil, but could not find anything on it.  I suspect in the end it functioned like a single cambered airfoil, so it was abandoned by aircraft designers.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: gedmundson on April 10, 2021, 01:23:05 AM
Frank - just catching up on your build. Absolutely incredible work, especially the engine and cowling.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: Bughunter on April 10, 2021, 02:46:37 AM
I am no expert in wing airfoils but I do like your painting  ;D
??? Rick, I'm confused now? There is no linen paint, the wings shows the resin color of this hard and yellow kind used by SPIN.

Mounting the center section from that wing and pinning the wings ? This will give it more strength ...
Thanks Alexis, that is my plan.
The wing should have a light V shape, but was straight.

Thanks Ken and Hugh!
I let the shape of the wings as it is. At first I was shocked and thought this was a quality problem or something like that, so I made some research. With a very interesting and unexpected outcome ;)

Thanks Gary and welcome to the show!

The fuselage is closed now  8)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 10.4.21 Fuselage
Post by: Bughunter on April 11, 2021, 03:31:16 AM
Fuselage


After the oil paint has hardened I painted a leather stripe, added struts and the prepared HGW seat belts.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1tWs9H52iOt5HxzLw9qNJXB9PWwtHwYMY)


The seat is in place. A light wash was also done so the fuselage is prepared to be closed.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1XrBpGBSD0fp3pYxRZLeBveTHt-3O4kSg)


The fuselage halves are glued together. I made the front thicker using Evergreen stripes.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1-GD2wJtsoGYArF1zLulnuL18VgvOqj8a)


With luck the cowling has a tight perfect fit, without sanding.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Ms4qhsWTD7fWz-1z0K2l6qQVK5jBReTb)


I do not like the resin struts. The long one going through completely, but I will do individual struts, with a smaller shape at the end so it matches the original pictures.
Now I need to prepare 24 wooden struts (https://www.modellboard.net/Smileys/Modellboard/12.gif) Why don't I build a Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter? (https://www.modellboard.net/Smileys/Modellboard/pffft.gif)
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1DnzqOJ40vvOONf28Rc_dMNzcRxzfkTkR)


If I don't show up for the next few weeks, don't worry. I'll probably still be grinding on the struts ::)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: kensar on April 11, 2021, 03:53:50 AM
We feel your plane...I mean pain.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: Alexis on April 11, 2021, 04:08:21 AM
Moving along really well Frank . I would replace the struts as well and good luck with the shaping of them ...thats a fair bit !


Alexis
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: RAGIII on April 11, 2021, 11:28:10 AM
You are making great progress Frank! I will try not to complain about the 6 or 8 I have to do for the RFC SPAD when I get back to it  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: Fvdm on April 13, 2021, 03:26:41 AM
The seat is looking real nice. Good luck with the struts.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: lone modeller on April 13, 2021, 06:24:14 AM
I have written this before Frank: with all of those struts to make and the beautiful cowling, it would have been nearly as quick to scratch build the whole thing!

The cowling and wood struts will really give this a special look.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: PrzemoL on April 13, 2021, 07:54:52 AM
Another fantastic project of yours. The engine from Small Stuff is spectacular on its own but your paintwork brought it to yet higher level. The interior with wooden bits is one more gem. And thst cowling... Great modeling!
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: Gisbod on April 13, 2021, 06:52:06 PM
We feel your plane...I mean pain.


I see what you did there Ken  ;D



Lovely job Frank, you mentioned “With luck the cowling has a tight perfect fit, without sanding”.... Methinks that wasn’t just down to luck...  ;)


Guy
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 8.4.21 Wing Question
Post by: RichieW on April 13, 2021, 10:36:08 PM
Wow Frank, that engine and alu cowling you have made are beautiful. Love how you made your own wooden interior parts too, hope yo don't mind if I try to steal a few ideas, this is inspirational stuff! Very much looking forward to seeing all the struts. I have no ideas about fixing the wing but I know you will, I've seen enough of your work to know you won't be beaten! :)
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 14.4.21 Which resin primer?
Post by: Bughunter on April 15, 2021, 05:45:14 AM
Thank you for your support Ken, Alexis, Rick, Ferry, Stephen, PrzemoL, Guy and Richie!
I'm not yet done with the struts ...


But I made some progress, here without glue.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1tJihYgkkiTaNsLc3_uNdebYhWFMmQkAG)


I wanted to put the struts with thinner ends and brass pins into the bigger wing holes, but this doesn't work in a controlled way.

After I checked the full resolution pictures again I noticed, that there are bolts visible on the other side of the wings and also some metal mounts can be seen on every strut.
So I drilled to the wings and glued 0.6mm nickel silver micro tubing pieces into it. Again a lot of work.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1EborC6e0cRuo8nMk6cCCyOACNz9fWYEH)


I filled also the big going through the wing holes and put there also those tubes.
So now the struts are sits safely with 0.4mm brass pinned and it looks nice.
But I had to shorten the struts again!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1oij0nGioonBTC32ohDLpGiQ4bsCc0AVj)


And now the reason for my post, again a question.
That hard yellow resin is not bad for sanding after glueing with CA - both have the same strength.
But I have a bad experience with priming this. It has such a smooth, waxy surface (yes it is cleaned) that paint literally rolls off. My trusty Alclad primer (which bites or etches into plastic) was not very successful.
This was the result of masking during my Sopwith Triplane project (I used then a plastic part).
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1w-JVLt8OjrToKKJhTRUQxV4eV0pM1LJd)


I know, that Ken has build glider kits from SPIN. Ken, what have you used?
There is or was a special resin primer from Gunze, but I can't find that product in a shop.
I prefer a airbrush product over a rattle can.

Thanks,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 10.4.21 Which resin primer?
Post by: RichieW on April 15, 2021, 06:21:52 AM
Hi Frank, I'm taking notes on how you've done the struts. Utterly precise as ever!

Is the primer you're thinking of Mr. Finishing Surfacer? It can be thinned with Mr Leveling Thinner and airbrushed. I used it once and was very impressed.

Cheers
Richie
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 10.4.21 Which resin primer?
Post by: Bughunter on April 15, 2021, 07:02:04 AM
I don't know how the Finishing surfacer would work on resin.
I mean this special one, but not available at the moment here, only "out of stock" messages.
(https://a.allegroimg.com/s1024/0ce44c/07b361c14bee8a6ea4fd0de238ac)

A good normal primer is able to bite or etch into the plastic, but the solvents used for that do not work on resin.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 10.4.21 Which resin primer?
Post by: hiddeous1973 on April 15, 2021, 02:36:15 PM
I had the same problem with my Albatros D.XI from Kayaya, that had an almost high gloss finish on the resin.
I used Mr. Surfacer 1200 and it worked great, no problem at all with multiple masking sessions and it give it a very slight texture wich I liked.

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/mr-hobby-sf-286-mr-surfacer-1200--1328226 (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/mr-hobby-sf-286-mr-surfacer-1200--1328226)

But any of the the surfacer series should work fine, thinned with laquer thinner will spray fine and can be polished if yoy wany. Available in 1000 (course) and 1500 (fine) as well, and in black and white if needed.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 10.4.21 Which resin primer?
Post by: kensar on April 15, 2021, 10:59:49 PM
PM sent, Frank. 
I use Tamiya white primer in a spray can.  I also clean the resin with an automotive tire cleaner that should remove silicon residues.  This combo works most of the time.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 10.4.21 Which resin primer?
Post by: Alexis on April 15, 2021, 11:55:19 PM
Hi Frank ,

I do something similar to Ken but I wipe the resin down with lacquer thinner ( hardware store ) and wipe again with rubbing alcohol ( 98% ) ( drugstore brand ) and I prime with any of the Tamiya grey paints . Never had any paint lifting when unmasking .


Alexis
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 10.4.21 Which resin primer?
Post by: lone modeller on April 16, 2021, 04:52:21 AM
Wonderful work on those struts Frank - and a lot of patience required to get them on place and looking so good.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 10.4.21 Which resin primer?
Post by: Bughunter on April 16, 2021, 06:01:54 AM
Thanks for all the hints and recommendations!

I made an experiment with one wing today.
Sanded with sanding wool to get a lot of micro scratches.
I cleaned the wing with lighter fuel (to remove silicone) and "Revell Airbrush Clean", which is very strong against all paints and others.

Then I primed with Tamiya primer can.
I drying I was not able to remove the primer with a strong tape (not masking tape)! Very promising.

Wonderful work on those struts Frank - and a lot of patience required to get them on place and looking so good.
Thanks Stephen, but not also the struts needs patience, also the wings. For every step on this model you need ages due to the amount of struts/wings/parts.
And I realized now, that with the rigging the chance is high to going crazy ...

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 10.4.21 Which resin primer?
Post by: Gisbod on April 16, 2021, 06:20:29 AM
Beautiful strut work Frank,

I think you went crazy a long time ago  :o

Guy
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 10.4.21 Which resin primer?
Post by: RAGIII on April 17, 2021, 11:31:10 PM
It sounds like you got the primer thing under control so I am looking forward to seeing this one progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 10.4.21 Which resin primer?
Post by: Bughunter on April 18, 2021, 02:47:33 AM
Thanks!

I think you went crazy a long time ago  :o
Guy, on the one hand we live in a democracy and everyone is allowed to have an opinion.
On the other hand ...(https://www.modellboard.net/Smileys/Modellboard/aerger.gif)


so I am looking forward to seeing this one progress!
Then I will edit a few pictures and write an update :D

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 17.4.21 Tail
Post by: Bughunter on April 18, 2021, 03:26:54 AM
Tail


To be able to prime and paint fuselage and wings I need to sort out the tail.
Those are the tail parts. Not bad, only the mounting is not easy because of the special position of the tailplane. And I cannot mount it now, because the lower surface of the tailplane needs linen, the other surfaces PC10.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Kpj6vl96q36nD89C59WuA0bbjdTX3gFt)


So I used a fine resin saw and cut all in single parts. The control surfaces are now pinned (which was not easy because all parts are thin). All pictures shown the tail control surfaces down, so I can do that now.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1xLD7SyzQECW2GRo2VXbsqE-4fsMwA9xV)


I replaced the resin wedge with a new one and pinned all.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1V6E_Ybj3qz0nMtzXKgql_AJZH7fzdyiA)


Now all of this crazy tail fits and can be easily mounted after painting.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=15D0aCHn1qMvYqbI7PmMI0P5QVxdYgdL8)


I like the look!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1bDgP_IsmPm7suU9I4WQCV9PG0-IPvLTA)


As I have just cut off all the control surfaces at the tail (which I actually always do, as it makes a model much more realistic and lively), I then cut off the ailerons. I didn't dare at first because they are so delicate. Now they are pinned with 0.3mm brass.
Fortunately only the two upper wings have ailerons.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1F9ixEcQL6ZSCgdbD9B5V8hxkORcGxL_P)


Only a little progress, but it was a lot of work with fine saw and drills.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 17.4.21 Tail
Post by: RAGIII on April 18, 2021, 05:25:45 AM
What can I say but amazing work!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 17.4.21 Tail
Post by: Alexis on April 18, 2021, 11:03:28 AM
How are you liking your first resin build ?

Progress is progress Frank , and yes that is a lot of work , but you are doing a fantastic job so far . Keep up the excellent work  ;)

Alexis
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 17.4.21 Tail
Post by: RichieW on April 18, 2021, 07:39:11 PM
Time well spent Frank, love the care and precision you always bring to your builds.

Richie
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 17.4.21 Tail
Post by: gbrivio on April 19, 2021, 12:15:32 AM
Notice right now this wonderful build. The plane looks like a Sopwith triplane with an extra lower wing...
Small Stuff engines are amazing and you take the best out of them. Looking forward for progress.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 17.4.21 Tail
Post by: lone modeller on April 19, 2021, 04:33:57 AM
What you are doing with resin is as amazing as what you do with other materials. Just super work.

Stephen.

PS I agree with Gary about you being crazy....but then it takes one to know one!!
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 17.4.21 Tail
Post by: Fvdm on April 20, 2021, 03:17:46 AM
I'm glad that you have no more priming troubles anymore. The tail and control surfaces look fine. Cutting them is always a good idea.

Reading your progress I doubt if I ever will build a resin kit.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 17.4.21 Tail
Post by: Bughunter on April 21, 2021, 05:43:52 AM
Thank you my friends!
Not really a update today, but I like to say Hello! to the new visitors!

What can I say but amazing work!
Then you will like the next pictures too ;)


How are you liking your first resin build ?
Not that bad. May be a bit more work, but that can be handled.


Time well spent Frank, love the care and precision you always bring to your builds.
Richie, to keep it exciting and interesting for me too, I try to do better with each model.


The plane looks like a Sopwith triplane with an extra lower wing...
Giuseppe, that is a interesting comparison. The fuselage is big, but the wings are smaller.
If I remember I should include a picture of both into the final pictures.


What you are doing with resin is as amazing as what you do with other materials.
Stephen, now back to metal and wood ;)


Reading your progress I doubt if I ever will build a resin kit.
Ferry, those kits are may be a bit more work, but that allows for much more interesting and rarely seen types. It is still much less work compared to a full scratch build.


Cheers,
Frank
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 20.4.21 Wall
Post by: Bughunter on April 21, 2021, 05:49:46 AM
Engine wall


At first the front picture from iwm.org.uk again:
(https://media.iwm.org.uk/loris/359/495/large_000000.jpg/full/510,/0/default.jpg)

If you zoom in and try to look on the wall behind the engine, you will see that:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1NkjOGbvHmU_4SlQyPDQKsQmdZ2YVobTF)


So I made a real metal wall, with alu around and a dark part in the middle from a wine bottle foil. And I used a riveting wheel.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1rLbHKjsN5BbfPu8PfMXo9PmizgT6rCwZ)


It will be partly hidden by the engine, and not 100% identical, but it looks interesting.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1wy8tZx13xepkFtCEcMbMBqjCs9A2V44q)


I started also to work on the airscrew, only the raw shape until now.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1JT0HLJHhx_jpEfPSRnbM3iujcSywWR6J)


It will even more hide the wall.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1hqLcWPz3dnouNvGjxUFQGioNYVmx82AU)


The problem is always to know what to do. Once you figure it out, to work on such details is pure fun!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 20.4.21 Wall
Post by: RAGIII on April 21, 2021, 06:23:37 AM
Your usual attention to detail and awesome work Frank! The prop is looking great also!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 20.4.21 Wall
Post by: RichieW on April 21, 2021, 07:16:02 AM
That really does look the part Frank, another beautiful propeller too.

Richie
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 20.4.21 Wall
Post by: Alexis on April 21, 2021, 11:18:21 AM
Das wunderbar Frank  ;)


Alexis
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 20.4.21 Wall
Post by: kensar on April 21, 2021, 09:58:53 PM
Nice detailing, Frank.
The engine in the photo appears to have the spark plugs in a different location to most 9Zs I have seen.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 20.4.21 Wall
Post by: Bughunter on April 22, 2021, 06:20:12 AM
Thank you!

Ken, you notice everything!
I will build the state of the original machine after the engine change on this foggy morning in May 1917, because the new engine has both spark plugs on one side. This matches the Small Stuff engine better. Sorry for posting the wrong older picture ;D

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 20.4.21 Wall
Post by: kensar on April 22, 2021, 06:44:32 AM
That will fix it!
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 20.4.21 Wall
Post by: lone modeller on April 22, 2021, 07:30:33 AM
As others have written, this is just superb detail Frank. I doubt whether there are many people who will notice any minor differences in detail between your model and the original, as they will not be carrying photos of the original in their top pockets!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 20.4.21 Wall
Post by: Gisbod on April 23, 2021, 02:57:23 AM
Exquisite Frank  ;)

It’s always a pleasure seeing your progress.

Guy
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 22.4.21 Paint and metal
Post by: Bughunter on April 23, 2021, 05:29:54 AM
Thank you Stephen and Guy!

Stephen, that is really good to know!

Paint and metal


After white primer on lower surface and gray on top I thought about shading. I decided to mask the ribs, which was a lot of work on four wings.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1tLXbIpjVoZg6rGnwgBCvdot5ThwUciJq)


And light shadows applied.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1WGKGE563cE0tNLHxpGJpI4OCYklDAynE)


I used Mr.Paint linen on lower surface.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1SV7S2xYZWi8eXsh5fLVIkC7-H58vv-fs)


The PC10 on upper surface is also from Mr.Paint, the early one.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1-WlH4DzVvLA6q4cpP7rOduKBWTIDBRep)


Plugged together to get an impression. Looks very dark due to late afternoon light, but I like the shade.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ZVIHyIzspTTWmVTWpg--jWsJWwwkLq5k)


Today in sun light it looks a bit different.
I added metal after the cowling. The middle stripe was made from aluminium. The dark metal mounting stripes before and after are from Eduard PE frame. I graved the mounting "locks" with a drill bit broken off at an angle. The intake pipes are tinned brass.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=10wMPdlmHmEbSgG0kURLqIo1rk4qH-X42)


With the engine plugged in it looks even better.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1f7Kdd1ervGOZxUMQfF30Wt7OXR7mc3vg)


I'm not sure .... Should I try to polish the cowling the same way?
(https://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Braas/13781L.jpg)


On lower surface I just closed it with a sheet of aluminium.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1LDvjhS3nR2wDfzQQS_eoeN7J3nClGnpq)


Hopwfully I do not destroy the painting during the mount and rigging process.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 22.4.21 Metal and paint
Post by: RAGIII on April 23, 2021, 06:35:42 AM
Beautifully painted Frank! I like the colors and may have to look into getting some of that paint!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 22.4.21 Metal and paint
Post by: Alexis on April 23, 2021, 07:31:49 AM
Nice work with all the nose parts on this kite !

I would polish the cowl , will highlight the engine even more and will blend with the livery .


Alexis
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 22.4.21 Metal and paint
Post by: hrcoleman66 on April 23, 2021, 08:22:30 AM
Paint work came out real nice.

And the alloy around the nose...

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 22.4.21 Metal and paint
Post by: RichieW on April 23, 2021, 08:24:38 AM
Brilliant work Frank, that polished aluminium looks amazing.

Lovely painting too, must have taken a long time masking although rib tapes!

Richie
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 22.4.21 Metal and paint
Post by: Fvdm on April 25, 2021, 04:07:15 PM
Beautiful work Frank. Your ref.pic shows different colors between the cowling and the aluminium so I think you need to polish the cowling in a different way than the aluminium.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 22.4.21 Metal and paint
Post by: lcarroll on April 25, 2021, 11:57:50 PM
Superb detail work as always Frank, just beautiful!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 22.4.21 Metal and paint
Post by: lone modeller on April 26, 2021, 03:45:47 AM
The turned metal look on the aluminium is superb Frank. The contrast between the cowling and paintwork is also excellent - indeed you really are producing a small scale replica of the original!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 22.4.21 Metal and paint
Post by: Bughunter on April 28, 2021, 05:29:29 AM
Always nice to read your feedback!

Beautifully painted Frank! I like the colors and may have to look into getting some of that paint!
Thanks Rick, I find the linen a bit on the dark side, but it is to late to change it. But I can live with it.

I would polish the cowl , will highlight the engine even more and will blend with the livery .
Ok Alexis, I have done it, but tried it a bit more lighter. It was also not working the same way due to the curved surface of the cowling.


And the alloy around the nose...
Thanks Hugh, the idea was to have an eyecatcher on the front to distract the viewer from the crude kit ;D

Lovely painting too, must have taken a long time masking although rib tapes!
Oh yes Richie! And this bird is so small and has soo many ribs ...
My original idea was to mask the space between ribs and spray rib tapes using primer. But due to the small size and my fear of that amount of masking on  resin I dropped that idea.


Your ref.pic shows different colors between the cowling and the aluminium so I think you need to polish the cowling in a different way than the aluminium.
The bigger version shows it better, but I can't download or link it here. They are doing dirty javascript tricks with the pictures.


Superb detail work as always Frank, just beautiful!
Thank you Lance, I hope that it will be a nice addition to my triplanes.


The contrast between the cowling and paintwork is also excellent - indeed you really are producing a small scale replica of the original!
Thanks Stephen!
There exists a replica in: "Suspended in main hall. Solent Sky, Southampton", but I think it looks not that nice. It shows an early state, with the wheels in cutouts of the lowest wing, very long tail skid due to that and wrapped wing struts.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Replica_Wight_Quadraplane_N546_%28BAPC164%29_%286956906143%29.jpg/800px-Replica_Wight_Quadraplane_N546_%28BAPC164%29_%286956906143%29.jpg)
Source: wikimedia.org

The Spin kit depicts the latest state.
Due to very nice weather (finally spring) I have not much progress, but it is a biplane now.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 27.4.21 Biplane
Post by: Bughunter on April 28, 2021, 06:14:27 AM
Biplane

I can show a small progress.

At first I want to show the polishing rubber stick, because I was asked. The bad thing is, that even on aluminium the diameter at the front get bigger and bigger. I reduced it again with sanding.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=19jmj8Z0ibASgQaaVHOtjur_HTDoXzP16)


The cowling is also polished (I will reduce it a bit with polishing by a cloth) it is a biplane now! This required careful adjustments of the little struts.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1aNeSQobDXkpssca6IuEaZ-8nWmsWQ16a)


Before I finally mounted the wing I realized I need to take care for rigging NOW!
The space is much to small to use turnbuckles, and on the pictures the rigging looks like some kind of RAF wires. But then comes Eduard "stretchers" in my mind (48915, originally for SE.5a), tinned and mounted.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1b9uMByQEZSa10i52gYYFiFd-HRLFOE8Y)


Also for the lower cross:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ayvXjlOTQK9DJOhyOGVrBejOsTfUPpQM)


I hope, that the alignment is good enough to avoid later problems.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1EcuRPDyx88lbKdnhcqgPFEN2zoiUDmAg)


Then I creates masks with my plotter and painted the cockades with WWI RAF blue and red paints from Drooling Bulldog, because the decals were to small to wrap around the rudder.
Rudder - perfect.
Lower wing - super.
Right side - ok
Upper wing - can live with it.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Kuo8Uze6fXr2oyGvIRe-1ooJFgMLnMNX)


Left side - correction needed!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1qnovIld5BFoj2BOmvV4SofD_FMCV9aHw)


Not that easy to work with such small masking. May be I reduced the tack to much, so had lifting problems.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 27.4.21 Biplane
Post by: RAGIII on April 28, 2021, 07:14:04 AM
Gorgeous Painting, Markings, Struts, etc.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 27.4.21 Biplane
Post by: kensar on April 28, 2021, 10:00:25 AM
This looks like a really difficult one.  But as you said, the front end will distract from the rest of it!  Nice polishing.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 27.4.21 Biplane
Post by: gedmundson on April 28, 2021, 10:26:18 AM
Very impressive work on the aluminium polishing, Frank. Of course along with everything else!
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 27.4.21 Biplane
Post by: Alexis on April 29, 2021, 12:24:03 AM
Excellent results on the cowl Frank  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 27.4.21 Biplane
Post by: Bughunter on April 29, 2021, 02:43:39 AM
Thank you Rick, Ken, Gary and Alexis!

I was able to fix the cockades with masks.
I opened the file again and removed the unneeded cut lines and let cut again some special fixing masks. So is the risk much lower of further underspray or other accidents. As I own a cutting plotter it should do something for me 8)

I think the markings are good enough now  ;)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 27.4.21 Biplane
Post by: gbrivio on April 29, 2021, 02:51:28 PM
Great paintwork and metal polishing. Good to see everything taking shape.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 27.4.21 Biplane
Post by: RichieW on April 29, 2021, 09:54:22 PM
Lovely work as usual Frank, I think the masking worked out very well. Even in 1/32 I usually have a lot more touch ups to do than you need here.The Drooling Bulldog colours look good, I shall order some!

Best wishes
Richie
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 27.4.21 Biplane
Post by: lone modeller on April 30, 2021, 02:02:15 AM
Super modelling as always Frank. I have y fingers crossed that the rigging points will line up - I am not sure what you could do if they do not! The national markings look good to me - but then you are a perfectionist.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 27.4.21 Biplane
Post by: Bughunter on April 30, 2021, 05:44:43 AM
Thank you Giuseppe, Richie and Stephen!

I have y fingers crossed that the rigging points will line up - I am not sure what you could do if they do not!
Oh yes, you caught a potential problem! But I ignored it until now, as it is already to late to move the holes in the middle wings.

Need to prepare the next pictures.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 29.4.21 Triplane
Post by: Bughunter on April 30, 2021, 06:08:17 AM
Triplane


To be able to continue with the next wing I need to prepare the next rigging mounts, now also double wires! Luckily a drill template is provided on the Eduard PE.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1SYTILowjfg4oj2MWtChTK0nAkrKKxs22)


What has 8 legs? The lowest wing!
All are in place and the rigging is prepared.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=11TJFZsr7SZ1RA9TxnfSzatEVFuu-3H-i)


Then I added also the rigging mounts to the opposite side below the fuselage.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1e8wXK6sBwsC6HcHT9JGN_4Hg9OMDUumM)


To keep the flow I added also a lot of them below the top wing, but not yet complete.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1KYtdkk_CFK6mihuY31UWZpO-OPYju-TD)


The other side of this wing looks now also better.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=190vedCf52xY24iBa-noGawaNx0PqyROw)


Then I take heart and mounted the lower wing.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Hsr-d1F0qLLaIzHZXshDYXiXYZM4F4xy)


Now it is a triplane 8)
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1hUtk3jzeqJck1A9Zw52qzYKHp5rI0nS4)


I decided to continue to work in this area, because the undercarriage needs to be created.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1SKMmr5rj6j6fiuI3MuVGXosnpyCyTObF)


Two struts are going to the lowest wing. I need now to invent a connection between the struts, which needs to hold also axle and suspension.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=15BAnUYHWQSMmw-MWEp8SYCd7OcKvKiY1)


The wheels was very small. As the resin ones had a lot of holes I found some plastic wheels in the spare box.
The leather around the cockpit is also filled and painted.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Q9Lkfz7fGmi0htWYy70Eg8Pxv0bSIZWp)


The undercarriage seems to be already strong enough. No paint yet.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1kWf7fnFy5agsyDfAh2b1dcDH1l0bXpoH)


Some work on the axle is also done.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=18ZiVXO7LTo0n4BLSmRqku2cKKCdm1QG6)


Let's see, if I can find a solution to complete the undercarriage. The pictures do not show much, because this detail is hidden in the shadows.
Any ideas or tips?

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 29.4.21 Triplane
Post by: hrcoleman66 on April 30, 2021, 02:17:14 PM
"Let's see, if I can find a solution to complete the undercarriage. The pictures do not show much, because this detail is hidden in the shadows.
Any ideas or tips?"

Are the undercarriage legs fixed yet?

If not, can I suggest putting a slot maybe six mm long at the bottom of each and fabricate a brass sheet to join them and also containing a slot to accommodate the axle.

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 29.4.21 Triplane
Post by: RAGIII on May 01, 2021, 02:11:06 AM
Three down and one to go  ;D The gear is looking excellent also!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 29.4.21 Triplane
Post by: RichieW on May 01, 2021, 08:02:11 AM
Coming along 1 storey at a time. Wish I could help with the undercarriage but I steal most of my ideas from you! I bet you have it solved very soon though.

Richie
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 29.4.21 Triplane
Post by: Bughunter on May 01, 2021, 08:24:40 AM
Hey friends, a hour ago I glued the last wooden part of the undercarriage to the model  :D Problem solved.

If not, can I suggest putting a slot maybe six mm long at the bottom of each and fabricate a brass sheet to join them and also containing a slot to accommodate the axle.
Thx, nice idea!
After a extensive study of the high resolution versions of the pictures I decided to replicate more wooden parts.

Stay tuned!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 1.5.21 Undercarriage
Post by: Bughunter on May 02, 2021, 03:45:41 AM
Undercarriage

To finalize the undercarriage I checked all pictures carefully and looked also on the kit parts.
They have some bigger part at the struts connection and a tray below the axle between them, see top right beside the strut.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1rpHmLR00dBkw-CyIIVMVzLF9Y5CeukTm)


The side picture from the Australia National Library shows clearly a wider tray behind the axle. Together with all the other information this is my interpretation. The solution also makes sense in terms of the load on landing.
Before pins can be glued in a carefully adaption of strut length was needed.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1xeMJxmKVn_zqWykUwU-t_MAw1riTT1qW)


All pinned with brass wire so it can be plugged together. Need to mount it on the model otherwise I can't insert the struts.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=19Cy2sWYTtZj1ieQj1UAzZW5o4fQ38wvh)


All primed, varnished and prepared for mounting.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=12jHsmqThFuwhvXx-7X1ikQGdxtYeNvvT)


And finally mounted in place.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=13mVIuP-7aKgIQVBdOPTu3KvWMC2-NIiq)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1f0knVo-eQsgRj8kE6nCKHt8a4MPvcNfC)


Need to paint the wheels and fix the axle with suspension.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=17-6LgPMX7u3c2JBPello8Vg7TwzEyld0)


Another problem solved 8)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 1.5.21 Undercarriage
Post by: RAGIII on May 02, 2021, 03:56:50 AM
Your research has certainly paid off Frank. The Gear looks superb!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 1.5.21 Undercarriage
Post by: RichieW on May 02, 2021, 04:31:04 AM
Brilliant Frank, I knew you would solve the riddle quickly and produce something a bit special.

Some serious note taking on strut making and fitting is going on here. ;)

Richie
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 1.5.21 Undercarriage
Post by: Alexis on May 02, 2021, 09:55:22 PM
Undercarriage looks good Frank , vast improvement over the resin parts .  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 1.5.21 Undercarriage
Post by: Fvdm on May 04, 2021, 04:59:23 AM
Great work Frank, as usual. It took a while before I realised the undercarriage wasn't real wood.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 1.5.21 Undercarriage
Post by: Bughunter on May 04, 2021, 05:14:12 AM
Thank you my freinds!

It took a while before I realised the undercarriage wasn't real wood.
Now I'm confused ??? You mean the model or the original aircraft?

All parts in the last update, beside of the steel axle, are real wood. The kit resin plate is still untouched.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 1.5.21 Undercarriage
Post by: Manni on May 04, 2021, 05:19:27 AM
Fantastic job, Frank! You are getting better and better with every build. (I always think that it can't be made better, you proof me wrong with your next model)
Bye Manni
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 3.5.21 Tailskid
Post by: Bughunter on May 04, 2021, 05:58:53 AM
Oh, thank you Manni! Nice to read from you after that loooong time :)

Tailskid

After the undercarriage I worked towards the tail, but only a small update.

According to the manual it should be done as two Vs. For that is some green florist wire in the kit.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1NUAXJa0XZKvDEYxrQEw03H9f8s7u9pqe)


After checking the high resolution pictures, also of the earlier versions, my interpretation is different. I soldered some squeezed micro brass tubing and brass wires into a tripod.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1uGnYlLWHlk6IgkQu0uMbM_MxDNC8uTXN)


Painted black.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=13bI0b6BiwI83VixeXBm8NmJ62fabhh5I)


The skid is made from real wood and the suspension is stretched sprue, as V to hold the track.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=128t-g5kZwwJ-cN2cVFaWqm94Yr3QpjqQ)


It can hold the model and looks like the real aircraft.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1l7cX0QkQtRW3I4sf3Twc2owQoGcXLYXf)


On the undercarriage the axle is fixed with suspension so this crazy bird has now reached the final on ground position  :D
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1V94PsLtCted8XYo_Z-x_FpgZMv_GcfxD)


One of the early tries of the Quadruplane had a very interesting tail skid. The wheels on the front are located in wing cut outs. To avoid the the trailing edge hits the ground a very unusual loooong tail skid mounting was needed 8)


Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 3.5.21 Tailskid
Post by: hrcoleman66 on May 04, 2021, 08:15:41 AM
Wow!  Very clean work on the tail skid.

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 3.5.21 Tailskid
Post by: Alexis on May 04, 2021, 10:02:23 PM
Most excellent Frank !

Alexis
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 3.5.21 Tailskid
Post by: RAGIII on May 05, 2021, 05:05:20 AM
I really am having a hard time telling what you did that is better than the kit.....NOT  ;D Your work Never Ceases to Amaze!!!
RAGIII
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 4.5.21 Last wing!
Post by: Bughunter on May 05, 2021, 05:47:12 AM
Thank you Hugh, Alexis and Rick!


Last wing

Again an update ...

In meantime I soldered control horns from 0.2mm nickel silver and 0.4mm brass tubes.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1tZefvcsTX73b3G3XBUnMbwmUYbr2heKo)


Mounted into the control surfaces.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=157zoIU0aFhL9WtzwaOtezmJ_AsHDCCiQ)


Control wires added.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1RpiiSyIoK3CBrj4-xrIMa2K4coL7Tg7-)


So I'm prepared to mount the last wing!
But after this picture I noticed, that the middle of the wing sits to hight, so I removed the four struts in the middle, unpinned and shortened them for another mm. Re-pinned, glued to fuselage again and next try ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1NNjuQJYri-MYhlTggPIC5JLjXj7m_tGP)


... successful!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1dLXLOho7-lWWmueQVOBXMoSUhqfgjbeR)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1tjzrq8ZzIONu2sHa0c-FT8SkOsNBq8hA)


To put it on the nose will no more possible with the finished model.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ELU9qGjJ_ix9Gy0WCswmhQKbCXVe5_GB)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=12i_ohHcisW8IqCKbVMr3wA6I7GaJEjkO)


The alignment is acceptable.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=13narGRXTJ0m8pgMcwmbCAPNBHQw3r6VS)


This was again an update after a short time, but I'm sooo happy with the result - I need to share it 8) This was a lot of work with all the wooden struts.
Let's see how the rigging will look like.

Let's have a beer now (https://www.modellboard.net/Smileys/Modellboard/trinken.gif)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 4.5.21 Last wing
Post by: Rookie on May 05, 2021, 05:54:00 AM
You did it Frank!

I have one word:

B-R-I-L-L-I-A-N-T!

Besides that, you are an absolute master in micro-soldering.

Willem
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 4.5.21 Last wing
Post by: RichieW on May 05, 2021, 07:10:31 AM
Yes Frank!!!! Well worth sharing a happy success like this. I'm enjoying this build, you must be having real fun with it!

Richie
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 4.5.21 Last wing
Post by: RAGIII on May 05, 2021, 07:27:06 AM
Simply Awesome Frank!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 4.5.21 Last wing
Post by: Alexis on May 05, 2021, 07:44:07 AM
Hey Frank , top wing is splendid looking in place now  :) Looking forward seeing her all rigged up now  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 4.5.21 Last wing
Post by: Manni on May 05, 2021, 05:03:53 PM
This looks so great. Another showstopper is on it's way.
Manni
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 4.5.21 Last wing
Post by: lone modeller on May 06, 2021, 01:43:07 AM
Sorry Frank but I have had another couple of days away and... you have made an excellent undercarriage from wood, tail skid, control horns and mounted the top wing.... I am breathless!

Just super - absolutely super. To get all four wings lined up so well and with the correct spacing - you deserve more than a beer!

Another mini-masterpiece in the making. I am seriously considering origami now!!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 4.5.21 Last wing
Post by: Fvdm on May 06, 2021, 01:52:57 AM
The wings are good aligned Frank. The control horns look great. Great work.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 4.5.21 Last wing
Post by: Bughunter on May 06, 2021, 05:13:50 AM
Thank you for celebrating this moment with me!

Just super - absolutely super. To get all four wings lined up so well and with the correct spacing - you deserve more than a beer!
A second beer can be unhealthy ;D
The spacing is the result of sanding those 24 struts ::)

The wings are good aligned Frank.
It was a good decision to add the 0.6mm pipes to the wings at the begin. The wooden struts are very robust, so I can press a wing a bit harder in one direction to bend the brass pins and to get a good alignment.
Sounds strange, but works! Don't try this with kit struts ;D ;D

20 rigging threads are in now, but this is not even the halve of needed ones ::)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 4.5.21 Last wing
Post by: lone modeller on May 08, 2021, 01:29:29 AM
20 rigging wires = less than half the total? Try rigging a pusher then you will know that 20 wires are not enough to rig the wings on one side of the nacelle! I have counted that there will be 40+ just on the tail of the SIA which I am building!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 4.5.21 Last wing
Post by: Bughunter on May 08, 2021, 02:49:52 AM
Yes Stephen, I know that from my D.H.2 Stripdown, that one has also the rigging inside the wings! It has eaten a whole pack of One End turnbuckles in one wing.
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=8552

I'm now around 36 8) Very hard to see against that PC10 :-\
And sometimes there are curses like in football "It was in!" when the thread is pulled out of the hole again by the electrostatic attraction through the tweezers ...

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 4.5.21 Last wing
Post by: kensar on May 08, 2021, 09:20:22 AM
Nice work, Frank.  This is looking good.
Such a unique looking plane!
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 13.5.21 Rotherham air pump
Post by: Bughunter on May 14, 2021, 01:31:01 AM
Thanks Ken! It is also very small.

Rotherham air pump

The last days I had other things to do.
But most of the rigging is now installed, and I tried to add another detail: Rotherham air pump

There were different types, this one.
(https://sopwithcamelblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/img_2709.jpg)
Source: sopwithcamelblog.files.wordpress.com

At the beginning I made a pump from brass. The pressure tubing is 0.2mm copper, the axle nickel silver.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1TQWODfEqun1GmJTvzNe8ax_1gwMEoR-G)


My Sopwith Triplane built last year is not equipped with such pump, so I had still the Eduard PE. A bit flat, but I could use the mount frame.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1MWeIesSB6pg15CWOHSN6TZOk8Ev2pLIA)


I modified it a bit and added the PE parts and a real wooden prop.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1pobTZPjXikfxsQIKlAIOqLWI3yVsN3SB)


The blades are very thin and the whole thing is very small!
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ze1mASUU-7k4uLBG7s_4sJLSjQNR94lM)


Now it is mounted on a strut.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1at4No9cK4-ySy-xIbwbwdokgq8QXQF-b)


From another angle, and without airflow.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Muif5JSVAKPICDWch0O0wqgBcC1XbVkW)


And here with airflow:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1JEX0qcnyCoVQj9wAlsB0PPiX9hooGlEC)


Another nice detail added 8)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 13.5.21 Rotherham air pump
Post by: RichieW on May 14, 2021, 02:21:59 AM
Wow, that is impressive micro engineering, it even spins! I think you've earned a beer reward Frank!

Richie
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 13.5.21 Rotherham air pump
Post by: DaveB on May 14, 2021, 02:38:33 AM
Clever, clever work on your Quadruplane, Frank -

Love the little wind driven fuel pump - wow!

Regards

Dave
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 13.5.21 Rotherham air pump
Post by: RAGIII on May 14, 2021, 07:28:27 AM
Another incredible detail added. Awesome work as always Frank!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 13.5.21 Rotherham air pump
Post by: lone modeller on May 14, 2021, 08:13:53 AM
Tell us Frank, do you like leaving the rest of us without words to show how much we admire your skill? I have problems making a wind driven pump in 1/32 scale., never mind having the blades rotate!

That is incredible micro-engineering. Will you be building models in 1/144 scale in future?

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 13.5.21 Rotherham air pump
Post by: Alexis on May 14, 2021, 10:47:47 AM
Thumbs up Frank !


Alexis
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 13.5.21 Rotherham air pump
Post by: Bughunter on May 14, 2021, 04:47:42 PM
Thank you Richie, Dave, Rick, Stephen and Alexis!

Wow, that is impressive micro engineering, it even spins!
Of course! ;D

Love the little wind driven fuel pump - wow!
Not fuel, but related to that. As a fuel pump would require two pipes the engineers at at time were clever: it it just a air pump which blows air into the fuel tank, the result is the same (fuel flow to the engine) but simpler and less risky.


Tell us Frank, do you like leaving the rest of us without words to show how much we admire your skill? I have problems making a wind driven pump in 1/32 scale., never mind having the blades rotate!

That is incredible micro-engineering. Will you be building models in 1/144 scale in future?
Stephen, the problem is the standard. Once you have done that on another aircraft (in this case on my Bristol Crocodile, see here. It shows the trick (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9378.msg177598#msg177598)) you can't omit it on a later project. ::)

Here I used some Mahogany varnish to have a nice contrast to the strut.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 13.5.21 Rotherham air pump
Post by: Borsos on May 15, 2021, 12:58:09 AM
Impressive progress Frank! It softens my heart how much you care even for the weird and ugly. It’s nice to see that even this freak of an airplane gets your miraculous treatment…
Best regards,
Andreas
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 13.5.21 Rotherham air pump
Post by: Bughunter on May 15, 2021, 02:16:20 AM
Welcome to the show Andreas and many thanks for your words!
It is may be ugly but at least seldom. I have never seen a built model of this type before. And I prefer prototypes and other rare aircraft over types seen a hundred times.

This build log comes to the end as the plane is nearly finished :)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 14.5.21 Rigging
Post by: Bughunter on May 15, 2021, 05:33:25 AM
Rigging

The next task was the work on the rigging.
After complaints I modified the angel of the tailplane, so that the control wire do not touch the tailplane. Then I glued the rudder in place and added the rigging of the tail.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1p2ZNrrn0eGU_uPRPgR6CblpFfQdbiT2x)


Also on the bottom.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=16GfZ4m27aPBttUsNMp3M5hu9DDZbdi7N)


The rigging of the wings is complete too. Some are double wires.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1aBUiolCnd89eFHF74qnyNz5ML-KwIgTR)


To the front I added two Gaspatch turnbuckles of the type "One End" after careful drilling into the alu.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1vGhC6eZavU0qyXdozLuQXXQS6uMyDKw4)


When I thought I was done I noticed the missing control cables on the ailerons, so I added a control horn and tried to find out the control wire layout.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1RPkgkxKlLx282ktKoyqSWnlrfDhXeuMY)


I prepared the airscrew some postings ago, but now it is more ore less finalized. Only the decal and the prop boss are missing.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=15ef5GJ0GUFTxhVeju4opy4QHgOqW7Hrx)


And again in a profile view.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1Un6oSXBqMffd0j1095W8_-DKYC4fx8Mj)


The build is nearly finished. Some final mounting, some Weathering, may be after Brathering, and the final pictures could be done. With a bit of luck may be this weekend.
Wow, my first resin model nearly finished ;)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 14.5.21 Rigging
Post by: lone modeller on May 15, 2021, 06:20:25 AM
This is truly impressive modelling Frank, well up to your usual stratospheric standard which I for one can only dream of.

PS I am like you in that I too like to build models of types which are rarely seen - hence my choice of subjects. It is pleasing to see another modeller also choosing unusual types.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 14.5.21 Rigging
Post by: RAGIII on May 15, 2021, 07:35:50 AM
The rigging is looking outstanding as expected Frank! The prop is exceptional!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 14.5.21 Rigging
Post by: RichieW on May 15, 2021, 08:01:46 AM
Great stuff Frank, I've enjoyed seeing this peculiar aircraft take shape. That prop is fantastic, no out of scale gigantic grain and perfect shape. Looking forward to the finished photos.

Richie
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 14.5.21 Rigging
Post by: Rookie on May 15, 2021, 05:31:49 PM

It is may be ugly but at least seldom. I have never seen a built model of this type before. And I prefer prototypes and other rare aircraft over types seen a hundred times.

I totally agree with you Frank!

Willem
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 14.5.21 Rigging
Post by: Fvdm on May 15, 2021, 08:56:56 PM
Great work Frank. The rigging looks all in a straight line through the wings.  The prop looks awesome. Just an amazing build.
Title: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 15.5.21 The end
Post by: Bughunter on May 16, 2021, 01:43:37 AM
Thank you Stephen, Rick, Richie, Willem and Ferry!

The end


Today I mounted the engine, cowling and bolted the airscrew to the engine. Beside a prop boss from Part I used some brass pipe pieces and nickel silver wire.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1qyyIsfFVIGpp3rQSKZcx7u18-TeteYqB)


The same in front view. The wheels are also on. So that is the last picture.
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1PKMHsU5Wh0AmlBOMLKVjqGn4R8exeyUY)


Well, my friends, this build log is finished. That means I build my first resin model in 1 month and 10 days :D That is may be not my master piece, at least compared to the Bristol Fighter and the Halberstadt, but it is a nice and never seen model for the cabinet. It took some effort to make all the wood and metal parts, but it helped to create a unique subject.
The final light tent pictures will be done this evening.

I hope the build report has entertained some of you. Many thanks for the constructive comments and support!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 15.5.21 The end
Post by: RichieW on May 16, 2021, 01:50:45 AM


I hope the build report has entertained some of you. Many thanks for the constructive comments and support!

Cheers,
Frank
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Entertained and amazed us Frank, it's always a pleasure to follow your builds. Looking forward to seeing the light tent photos. Congratulations on your unique model and first resin kit!

Richie
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 15.5.21 The end
Post by: RAGIII on May 16, 2021, 03:39:15 AM
I am always entertained by your builds Frank! Superb isn't saying enough!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Wight Quadruplane, Spin 1/48, Upd 15.5.21 The end
Post by: Bughunter on May 16, 2021, 06:20:27 AM
Thanks you Richie and Rick!

The final pictures are in the Completed section: https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12201.0

Cheers,
Frank