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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Dave W on March 18, 2021, 11:58:32 AM
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Polish model manufacturer Lukgraph has uploaded images to its Facebook page of its forthcoming 1/32 scale Friedrichshafen FF.33L.
The kit, in resin and 3D parts will come in two versions.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pT6kyH9Y/162115789-3843360079080661-1371275608089572701-o.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4nC5bQQY/161783553-3843360695747266-8975030191230321198-o.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3N01vcmM/161812598-3843360215747314-2760864216423573523-o.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/44rkSC89/161946703-3843360932413909-4529406254676538405-o.jpg)
Lukgraph is taking pre orders now for the kit.
They can be contacted at: [email protected]
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Great box-art! Reminds me of Steve Anderson's art for WnW.
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I've put in my pre order, can't wait - And I do not have to scratch build the floats ;)
Kent
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Perhaps Lukgraph would sell you some sets of floats for other projects? :)
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Pre-ordered!
Servus
Bertl
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Yes, the long wait is coming to the end.
I have heard the kits will be available in 6 weeks - waiting for the PE frets.
And the boxarts are the story of their own - painted by one of the most talented Polish aviation artists - Mr. Jarosław Wróbel. IMHO they are a lot better than the WNW's ones. The Polish one is now adoring my laptop display background.
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I just checked their website for prices ... and those prices are killers, not targeted for the average income modeler, many potential customers will be scared away . :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I just checked their website for prices ... and those prices are killers, it would scare away many potential customers. :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Yea, I'm one of them. I went to their website to order it and discovered with shipping it would be over $200 usd. I just can't justify that right now. :(
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Ordered
Ardeat Vita!
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Looks like a really nice kit !
It is one I will pass on , I have one in 48 scale and even at that size it is big aircraft . Not sure about the esin struts , do these have a wire core ?
Alexis
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Looks like a really nice kit !
It is one I will pass on , I have one in 48 scale and even at that size it is big aircraft . Not sure about the esin struts , do these have a wire core ?
Alexis
Not that I would do any advert, Alexis, but I suppose you have FF33E in 48th scale and that was much bigger than L. And yes, all the struts in Lukgraph models are reinforced with solid steel wire. And so are the wings, to prevent sagging in time.
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Thanks Prze !
Yes , Techmods kit ;)
Alexis
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Wow nice!
I wonder if these floats would fit on a Rumpler?! :D
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I see they have a premier edition with clear doped linen and wood grain decals. Is it worth it? Their decals any good or should one stick with Aviattic decals? I am not trying to start anything just curious about their decals.
James
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I see they have a premier edition with clear doped linen and wood grain decals. Is it worth it? Their decals any good or should one stick with Aviattic decals? I am not trying to start anything just curious about their decals.
James
As far as I know it is their first venture into such decals. They have to be assessed yet :)
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I see they have a premier edition with clear doped linen and wood grain decals. Is it worth it? Their decals any good or should one stick with Aviattic decals? I am not trying to start anything just curious about their decals.
James
As far as I know it is their first venture into such decals. They have to be assessed yet :)
Thank you so much for the info my friend. Very much appreciated. That's why this forum is the best and friendliest.
James
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Does anyone know if any of the markings will be Friedrich Christiansen's FF.33L?
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Hello James,
it looks like there are no Christiansen decals in the kit.
Click on the link, then you can click through the series of pictures - the available decal schemes are shown at the end.
https://lukgraph.pl/en_GB/p/Friedrichshafen-FF.33L-132-PREORDER/152
Servus
Bertl
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Hello James,
it looks like there are no Christiansen decals in the kit.
Click on the link, then you can click through the series of pictures - the available decal schemes are shown at the end.
https://lukgraph.pl/en_GB/p/Friedrichshafen-FF.33L-132-PREORDER/152
Servus
Bertl
Bertl, thank you so much my friend. Phooey. It would have been cool of there were Christiansen decals, but it is still an awesome looking kit.
James
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For the benefit of the uninformed, what did Christiansen's plane look like?
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The kit version is a FF.33 L (CHFT)
(https://i.imgur.com/yJtTVEA.jpg)
Kit decals...
Christiansens was a FF.33 L C2MG with a Machine Gun for the Pilot.
Kent
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Thanks for the information. What did Chritiansen's plane look like. Any special markings or numbers? Was it linen or painted up?
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Thanks for the information. What did Chritiansen's plane look like. Any special markings or numbers? Was it linen or painted up?
In the profiles section of the Zeebrugge book published by Aeronaut Christiansen's FF.33L was either linen or the blue color like his W.12 & W.29 with the same "C" marking's on the side of the fuselage.
James
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Hi all,
Łukasz at 'Lukgraph' is apparently just waiting for the photo-etch to arrive (on its way) and the FF33L kits will be ready to be shipped.
He's hoping in the next couple of weeks,
Mike
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Hi
The wood and canvas looks nice, I’m sure someone will make and post a cracking end result.
Cheers all
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Okay, in the images below are the cover of the book ZEEBRUGGE, an excellent resource of the activities and aircraft of the German Naval Air Service on the Mole at Zeebrugge.
The rest are some neat markings for the FF33L
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ad261/ptbarnum101/DSC06188.JPG?width=180&height=180&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ptbarnum101/a/da9e4462-6817-4a1b-acdb-036f363e5012/p/583a83e2-a927-4ea2-bdbd-fb25458de113)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ad261/ptbarnum101/DSC06186.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ptbarnum101/a/da9e4462-6817-4a1b-acdb-036f363e5012/p/4c574624-bea5-49e6-a570-5714bc4e730a)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ad261/ptbarnum101/DSC06187.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ptbarnum101/a/da9e4462-6817-4a1b-acdb-036f363e5012/p/eb088120-9992-42b5-8958-74a33f90609b)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ad261/ptbarnum101/DSC06185.JPG?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ptbarnum101/a/da9e4462-6817-4a1b-acdb-036f363e5012/p/bf5c6f34-45cb-4c43-87af-55f8a9eefd94)
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Thanks for the information. What did Chritiansen's plane look like. Any special markings or numbers? Was it linen or painted up?
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ad261/ptbarnum101/DSC06186.JPG?width=180&height=180&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ptbarnum101/a/da9e4462-6817-4a1b-acdb-036f363e5012/p/4c574624-bea5-49e6-a570-5714bc4e730a)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ad261/ptbarnum101/DSC06185.JPG?width=180&height=180&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ptbarnum101/a/da9e4462-6817-4a1b-acdb-036f363e5012/p/bf5c6f34-45cb-4c43-87af-55f8a9eefd94)
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Just saw on Facebook, that starting tomorrow they will begin shipping the kit all over the world.
James
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Hi all,
Email confirmation that my orders have been dispatched,
Mike
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Ditto. Yeah!
Kent
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Ditto. Yeah!
Kent
Ready made floats as well ;D
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Apparently I am the first one to get this new kit from Lukgraph. So let me present my first impressions from the opening of Polish version boxing.
The kit is solidly packed in a cardboard box with a great cover adorned by the striking commission work by one of Polish most renown military-subject artists - Jarosław Wróbel, especially famous for his recent works on Polish Naval Aviation. All secured in a huge string bag.
(https://i.ibb.co/MnbkjdP/20210513-145840.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/qYBVj1N/20210513-145825.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/0KXVvbH/20210513-145806.jpg)
Inside the elements are grouped in smaller string bags
(https://i.ibb.co/vqpxCJh/20210513-145742.jpg)
The PE fret, decals and dry decal with instrument panels (including one spare just in case you err in cutting it off with scissors)
(https://i.ibb.co/0MGSQ79/20210513-145718.jpg)
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Instruction booklet of usual Lukgraph style, seemingly the same for both German and Polish boxings, the latter with an extra sheet depicting the colour scheme. This one is up to date with the most recent agreement on the colours of the only Polish FF33L - White "9". Well, with one exception, the upper wing tips had the original German crosses overpainted with a colour darker than the overall used middle grey - possibly the dark grey or black which was also used to paint the floats and the struts.
(https://i.ibb.co/SNHWKkQ/20210513-145647.jpg]/img]Then two separate boxes with 3D printed bits - the Benz engine with the exhaust and the accessories including the beaching carts wheels, Parabellum gun (possibly never mounted on the Polish FF33L), the majority of the cockpit elements, the propeller and the spinner, etc.[img]https://i.ibb.co/y4v25QN/20210513-145623.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/9YMHGdM/20210513-145611.jpg)
The engine is a jewel. My only complaint is that it is complete and thus the painting will require some serious thinking. I suppose I will try to delicately cut out some elements, the valve push rods definitely. Generally removal of the 3D bits requires special care because the material is relatively hard and brittle - the kit instruction itself suggests using the razor saw. Me, I used also the pure razor, thinner than the saw, and with some care successfully detached all the bits from the printing trees.
(https://i.ibb.co/Tt4R040/20210513-145220.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/jT9BfTn/20210513-145205.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/WBBvTMV/20210513-145149.jpg)
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(https://i.ibb.co/nz64W4D/20210513-224107.jpg)
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This last photo shows that at some spots, as the top front of the engine block, there are some traces of 3D printing. Again, the kit instruction itself advices to use a primer and to sand these traces if necessary. IMHO some places will definitely require such treatment.
The fuselage in two halves is taped together as per usual Lukgraph practice. It has some great surface details, including the traces of internal structure pressing from below the linen.
(https://i.ibb.co/6YfR24c/20210513-145521.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/zhRPZ80/20210513-145504.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/j9NCCMF/20210513-224049.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/c60fy1p/20210513-230355.jpg)
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The last photo just shows a few air bubbles at the fuse bottom surface, for a moment hidden under it but with some sanding which will surely be necessary after fuselage assembly, they may unearth. Still, my verdict is that the quality of resin is much much higher in Lukgraph kits now then is was some time ago.
Some bubbles are also present in struts. On the positive - each of the struts is armed with wire and this time they all have the casting trees with clear strut designation - a very useful and welcome touch by the producer as it sigificantly facilitates sorting these.
(https://i.ibb.co/9gB20Wm/20210513-225613.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/s5Bj8Ty/20210513-225712.jpg)
The wire popping at the strut ends can be cut to just enter the mounting holes. The latter are clearly marked at the fuselage, wings and floats but they will surely require some careful drilling at correct angles - possibly the most difficult aspect of the assembly.
The floats are solid resin blocks. They will add to the total mass of the model but they should also enhace its stability by lowering the mass centre. Also, this approach goes clearly towards simplicity of assembly.
(https://i.ibb.co/djL7TdM/20210513-145552.jpg)
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The wings are probably the weakest part in the entire overly high quality model. In my opinion the rib structure is overdone but it is of course very personal opinion, others may have different views. Also in my copy the upper wings are delicately sagged. Theoretically with resin repair of this should not be a problem with some heat applied. But here the wings are reinforced with the wire and it just may be a little bit more difficult, possibly one attempt may not be enough. The lower wings are as flat as they should be.
(https://i.ibb.co/MRG4HwK/20210513-145539.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/NNZwDc7/20210513-122112.jpg)
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(https://i.ibb.co/2KV5Lz3/20210513-145351.jpg)
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And finally the beaching gear with nicely done wood plank surface of the carts.
(https://i.ibb.co/BBqzDyL/20210513-224123.jpg)
All together a very much welcome release from Lukgraph. I have already mentioned elsewhere, that today I felt as if Santa Claus came to my door with a gift well off Christmas. My joy to get this gift can only be compared with that thrill I felt 6 years ago when the postman brought to me that enormous box with WNW Felixstowe. Me, I have been waiting for a 32nd scale model of any of floatplanes used in Polish Naval Base in Puck in early 1920s. Today my long dreamt dream is fulfilled - thank you Łukasz Sznajder - you are the real Santa for me!
Needless to say - the kit goes right now to my bench.
And yes, if you ask me, I do strongly recommend it to everyone. Do not be afraid of resin!
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It really is an impressive kit and I think Kent will be a little on the envy side .
Alexis
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It really is an impressive kit and I think Kent will be a little on the envy side .
Alexis
Yes, the kit IS impressive.
As for Kent, I hope he will not be envious. I am sure the Danish post does its best to bring his FF33L as soon as possible to his doorstep. But even if he does I expect that out of that envy he will build it to such a high standard that we will all be on the profit side being able to admire his model!
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Thanks for taking the time to photograph and post your review, Prze. Very interesting indeed, and I can see your passion for the new kit. To be able to start on it is great - you'll be spending a lot of time at the model bench this coming weekend, I take it? ;)
Cheers,
Gary
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It really is an impressive kit and I think Kent will be a little on the envy side .
Alexis
Yes, the kit IS impressive.
As for Kent, I hope he will not be envious. I am sure the Danish post does its best to bring his FF33L as soon as possible to his doorstep. But even if he does I expect that out of that envy he will build it to such a high standard that we will all be on the profit side being able to admire his model!
You are too kind, and modest PrzemoL. I love to have you getting ahead, watching and learning how you are going to tackle the FF.33 L.
Btw: The delay gives me a chance to do the rail car base before the kit arrives...
Kent
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Thanks for taking the time to photograph and post your review, Prze. Very interesting indeed, and I can see your passion for the new kit. To be able to start on it is great - you'll be spending a lot of time at the model bench this coming weekend, I take it? ;)
Cheers,
Gary
My pleasure Gary, I am very happy that I could share my joy with you. And yes, I will certainly spend some time over the weekend working on the kit elements.
It really is an impressive kit and I think Kent will be a little on the envy side .
Alexis
Yes, the kit IS impressive.
As for Kent, I hope he will not be envious. I am sure the Danish post does its best to bring his FF33L as soon as possible to his doorstep. But even if he does I expect that out of that envy he will build it to such a high standard that we will all be on the profit side being able to admire his model!
You are too kind, and modest PrzemoL. I love to have you getting ahead, watching and learning how you are going to tackle the FF.33 L.
Btw: The delay gives me a chance to do the rail car base before the kit arrives...
Kent
Kent, I will gladly trace the route, especially that I am sure you will again stun us with another masterpiece, on the railway car!
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Hi all,
Just awaiting the arrival of mine.
I see the reinforcing rods in the struts are close to, if not exposed, at the leading edges of the struts.
I found this to be the same for the struts of the Sopwith Baby float plane.
I guess the rods are the maximum diameter that could be added in the strut moulds, which is good.
Just some careful handling will, I think, be required to avoid 'break away' of the surrounding resin.
Mike
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Hi all,
Just awaiting the arrival of mine.
I see the reinforcing rods in the struts are close to, if not exposed, at the leading edges of the struts.
I found this to be the same for the struts of the Sopwith Baby float plane.
I guess the rods are the maximum diameter that could be added in the strut moulds, which is good.
Just some careful handling will, I think, be required to avoid 'break away' of the surrounding resin.
Mike
Yes, you are right. Probably some repairs with CA glue will be necessary here. I will be reporting when I get to this point with my build. Still, it is nothing unusual, IMHO. Better to have these wires than later see the creep deformation of pure resin :)
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i live in the Netherlands, my kit arrived today. it's the German version and as Prze already indicated, the parts are identical save the tailpiece. included are several sheets of linen decal, and plywood in a dark an a light version which bear a strong Aviattic resemblance: same size and "feel" i suspect RWA had a hand in this. the other sheet has he crosses and serials and 2 identical instrument panels . The riggin laiyout will be a challenge to put it mildly
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Hi all,
My kit arrived today in the UK,
Mike
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Nice. Still waiting on mine to ship.
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Hopefully mine is on it's way to Rhode Island. I got a Gmail notice from Lukgraph but it's all in Polish! so I have no clue what it says, lol. Regards, Pete in RI
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Hopefully mine is on it's way to Rhode Island. I got a Gmail notice from Lukgraph but it's all in Polish! so I have no clue what it says, lol. Regards, Pete in RI
I will be glad to translate the notice into English if you send me the text - to PM for example.
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Copy the email and paste it into 'Detect Language'.
Select translate to English to read.
You can do it in reverse to reply in correct language.
Mike
https://translate.google.com/ (https://translate.google.com/)
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Cool! Thanks guys. Prze, I will send you the text if I can't get Mikes suggestion to work. Regards, Pete in RI
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All set! The kit arrived safe and sound a couple of days after the last posting. What a gorgous kit! Well done Lukgraph team!
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Good for you Pete :)
Alexis
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Thanks for sharing, and look forward to see builds of the nice looking bird ;)