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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Gisbod on February 28, 2021, 09:18:48 PM

Title: New Spray Booth
Post by: Gisbod on February 28, 2021, 09:18:48 PM
Happy Sunday all, the sun’s out and spring has sprung!

I thought I’d share my new airbrushing set up, but not a booth at all really despite the title. I did look at modelling booth set ups, but tbh they all seemed fairly ineffective and expensive. My old booth was a flimsy, very inefficient affair bought off the shelf.

As I’ve moved house, I wanted to get something new and more effective so took to the internet for ideas. The result is a powerful, externally mounted, centrifugal extractor fan. It produces an incredibly strong airflow - so much so that if you hold your hand anywhere near to the grill - it literally sucks your hand against it with real force! I also bought a new workbench to have a dedicated spray area.

Really pleased with it and it works like a dream!


Guy

If of interest, I bought it from here:


https://www.justfans.co.uk/awv-external-fan-awv-p-121.html




Overview:


(https://i.postimg.cc/W1Q2ZmGQ/F85-EBD88-2-E62-4-D37-A4-A9-EAC5331-B006-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/18rhhqYH)


Workspace:


(https://i.postimg.cc/jjPR4WvC/EB3-F3-F6-C-CF64-4701-8567-8210-F63521-B3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p9VN2Lwt)


Outside:


(https://i.postimg.cc/vZ1YD2Vr/822-AE6-D7-0-CF9-43-AA-9-EC2-5-DA69-BDFE48-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RWB5DRGh)
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: torbiorn on February 28, 2021, 09:56:50 PM
Thank you for sharing. I will file it away for a time when I (hopefully) have the necessary space. I guess you live in a climate zone where heat loss through the fan is not much of an issue?
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: WD on February 28, 2021, 11:15:18 PM
Very nice guy!

Warren
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: Berman on March 01, 2021, 12:57:40 AM
Guy,
      The link you provided displays five models ranging from 220 cubic meters per hour to 740 cubic meters per hour. Which one did you use?
 Too little air flow resulting in being ineffective and too much affecting spraying. Are you planning to install a filter to prevent paint particles from building up on the fan's components?
       In America, there are many inline fans produced by Fantech. These can easily be attached to a duct.
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: Gisbod on March 01, 2021, 03:36:13 AM
Thanks Warren  ;)


Thank you for sharing. I will file it away for a time when I (hopefully) have the necessary space. I guess you live in a climate zone where heat loss through the fan is not much of an issue?



Well, I’m in the UK so we get some cold spells! But it’s in the garage and the garage door isn’t sealed, so it’s much of a muchness! I’ve got a heater anyway.




Guy,
      The link you provided displays five models ranging from 220 cubic meters per hour to 740 cubic meters per hour. Which one did you use?
 Too little air flow resulting in being ineffective and too much affecting spraying. Are you planning to install a filter to prevent paint particles from building up on the fan's components?
       In America, there are many inline fans produced by Fantech. These can easily be attached to a duct.


Hi Barry,

It’s the AWV15S - 620m3/hr model. It’s certainly a strong pull, but I haven’t noticed any problems spraying yet.

It hasn’t got a filter, but it’s pretty small amounts of paint tbh, that said I guess it will build up. Maybe I should look for one, but it will restrict the flow also? I don’t really know enough to know whether it’s necessary or not...


Thanks,


Guy
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: Alexis on March 01, 2021, 06:29:54 AM
Hey  Guy , nice set up in the new home !

A filter will not restrict the air flow  ;)


Alexis
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: Gisbod on March 01, 2021, 07:21:27 AM
Ah ok,

I’ll look into that then  ;)

Thanks,

Guy
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: bobs_buckles on March 01, 2021, 05:58:05 PM
Nice setup Guy.
Very nice.

vB
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: gbrivio on March 01, 2021, 06:38:38 PM
Nice setup, very clean.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: lcarroll on March 02, 2021, 12:27:00 AM
    That's a great setup Guy and is much less intrusive and bulky then a conventional "Booth". I was scrolling through the site you provided and the relatively inexpensive inline filters that custom fit the vent look like the solution to the paint build up question. Like most my Booth takes an inexpensive throwaway furnace filter and I am amazed at the amounts of paint that can accumulate. Better on a filter and in the bin ultimately then gumming up your system!
    Enjoy, I'd say you've got the "ultimate" system there!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: Gisbod on March 02, 2021, 01:32:45 AM
Thanks Lance,

Yes, I will get one. I do like the fact there’s no bulky booth and fan on the inside  ;)

Guy
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: kensar on March 02, 2021, 02:32:09 AM
The reason why a booth is part of paint booth designs is to create a face velocity high enough to capture and carry out fumes and paint particles.  The booth ensures airflow from one direction - from behind the user toward the exhaust.  Just saying.
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: Mike Norris on March 02, 2021, 02:48:18 AM
Hi Guy,
That's an impressive setup you have there.
My only concern would be airbrushing possibly flammable substances so close to power outlets and the wall hung boiler?

Mike
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: Gisbod on March 02, 2021, 02:59:31 AM
The reason why a booth is part of paint booth designs is to create a face velocity high enough to capture and carry out fumes and paint particles.  The booth ensures airflow from one direction - from behind the user toward the exhaust.  Just saying.

Well, all I can say is it’s very powerful and it works, everything gets drawn in..


Hi Guy,
That's an impressive setup you have there.
My only concern would be airbrushing possibly flammable substances so close to power outlets and the wall hung boiler?

Mike


Well, nowhere else to do it frankly, if I stop posting then it didn’t go well...


Guy
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: Berman on March 02, 2021, 05:29:51 AM
 The equivalent of a 620 cubic meter per hour fan is 365 cubic feet per minute.
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: FAf on March 02, 2021, 06:13:30 AM
💥

Seriously... Great idea and setup!
/F 😁
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: Bughunter on March 02, 2021, 06:27:49 AM
Hmm ...

As you may know I live in Germany. And it is possible that here we have the most regulations regarding buildings. My father's house was also affected regarding fireplaces and negative pressure. Already the kitchen exhaust to the outside needs a switch on the window. The fireplace required additional air ducts.

If you create severe negative pressure in the room - the air must come from somewhere, and the modern windows are very sealed - it can affect the flame of the gas heater next to it, please watch out! Carbon monoxide is dangerous!

Just my cents ...
Frank
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: Gisbod on March 02, 2021, 06:50:11 AM
A lot of concerns here!

It’s a well ventilated garage Frank, big drafty door on the garage, I’m really not worried  ;) My last set up was a modellers spray booth with attached fan - it was next to useless, hardly any draw and the fumes did concern me, hence this set up.


Guy
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: Bughunter on March 02, 2021, 07:20:40 AM
Ok, fine!
I have only seen the heater, and point out.
After all, we want to see more models from you and are worried about you! :D

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: bobs_buckles on March 02, 2021, 07:59:15 AM
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Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: WD on March 02, 2021, 10:56:40 AM
I completely understand folks' concerns. However, I was watching a video online regarding fans, spray booths, etc. and the gentleman did point out that while we hear of the dangers of airbrushing and fumes, etc. have any of us ever heard of anyone blowing their place up due to airbrushing and fume build up?  I know I haven't, your mileage may vary.

WD
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: Gisbod on March 02, 2021, 05:10:11 PM
Thanks Frank,

Nice to know you care about me so!  ;D

And Bob and WD  ;)


It’s good to hear concerns though, does make me double check the set up, but as I’ve said, I’m perfectly happy with it.


Guy
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: kensar on March 03, 2021, 12:21:01 AM
I don't think explosions are the first concern.
Painting with solvent based paints and poor ventilation will give you headaches.  I know.
It's more of a health related concern from my end.

Guy, if you are confident about your setup, then build some models!
Title: Re: New Spray Booth
Post by: gedmundson on March 07, 2021, 12:07:09 AM
Guy, it's lovely to see your new set up. I think you're better prepared for fumes than most modellers. Just make sure your fan is not turned up so high as to suck up some of your smaller parts  ;D
Cheers,
Gary