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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: RAGIII on January 25, 2021, 08:12:02 AM
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I wasn't going to do a build log but then figured "What the Heck". This one will be built as a SPAD VII from 19 Squadron RFC. I will be using the Eduard PE set as well as a modified Gaspatch Vickers and Archer Transfers stitching. One thing I recalled when I pulled this one off of the pile was that this was the Kit awarded after the Des Delatore GB, not the DR1 as I had stated in error during My DR1 builds.
RAGIII
The kit:
(https://i.postimg.cc/rF9Fy8gT/IMG-20210124-141016332.jpg)
and the references:
(https://i.postimg.cc/nrtwCfTb/IMG-20210124-124311114.jpg)
and where I am in the build to date:
I suck at trying to assemble and glue PE seats. So I copied the Eduard seat to sheet plastic.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xTGVGtb3/139797191-4356447651048940-3824507718732556814-o.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7Lhvk4tK/141259501-4359908867369485-5515523600652705328-o.jpg)
Spent shell chute added using strip styrene. Not perfect but not much will be seen so adequate for My build. This is not necessary if building a French SPAD VII as Roden supplies the correct chute and box for those:
(https://i.postimg.cc/9Mvz9Jqj/IMG-20210123-213730213.jpg)
Eduard seatbelts added:
(https://i.postimg.cc/g02wbwP1/IMG-20210123-213757224.jpg)
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Way to sneak one in on us RAGIII. I’ll be keeping my eye on this build.
Kevin
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Beautiful work so far, Amigo!
Cheers,
Bud
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You have been busy ;)
Alexis
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Way to sneak one in on us RAGIII. I’ll be keeping my eye on this build.
Kevin
Thanks for dropping in Kevin!
RAGIII
Beautiful work so far, Amigo!
Cheers,
Bud
Thanks Amigo Still needs some touch up work. I am not going to go too crazy on the interior having learned how little is actually seen from building the 3 SPAD XIII's.
RAGIII
You have been busy ;)
Alexis
Yep, at least for the last few Days 8)
RAGIII
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What a great new project, Rick. And you made a lovely start with it!
Andreas
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I had wondered where you had been recently Rick: good to see you back.
I too am not a fan of PE - much easier to make most parts in plastic (unless you are Frank of course!)
Stephen.
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Don’t you ever sleep Rick?
Nice subject ;)
Guy
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Rick, again a SPAD? And only one at a time?
Ah, searched back, last time it was 13 and now a 7 :)
The seating surface looks nice with the PE mesh.
Good luck and have fun!
Frank
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Excellent build, Richard!
I'll follow with interest.
er me
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Good choice and good start, another must follow build.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Great start on this demanding kit. The masterpiece in the making.
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You're off to a good start on this, Rick.
What's the easiest way to tell a SPAD VII from a SPAD XIII? (the question is not a test of your knowledge, I would just like to know).
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What a great new project, Rick. And you made a lovely start with it!
Andreas
Thanks Andreas.
RAGIII
I had wondered where you had been recently Rick: good to see you back.
I too am not a fan of PE - much easier to make most parts in plastic (unless you are Frank of course!)
Stephen.
I am glad I am not alone. I learned yesterday that the small PE parts like switches are just too small for me to see and handle. I probably should have used the kit IP.
RAGIII
Don’t you ever sleep Rick?
Nice subject ;)
Guy
Thanks Guy.
RAGIII
Excellent build, Richard!
I'll follow with interest.
er me
Thanks for dropping in!
RAGIII
Good choice and good start, another must follow build.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Thanks Giuseppe!
RAGIII
Great start on this demanding kit. The masterpiece in the making.
Thanks for the Very Kind comment Przemo!
RAGIII
You're off to a good start on this, Rick.
What's the easiest way to tell a SPAD VII from a SPAD XIII? (the question is not a test of your knowledge, I would just like to know).
Thanks Ken. The easiest way is the following depending on the view. Single Vickers, Vertical cabanes on the 7 vs slanted on the 13, and the rudder shape.( more rounded on the 13 at the rear.)
RAGIII
So I have been busy. I wasn't happy with the spent shell chute so I made version 2. Better but as I figured only the very bottom will be seen! Everything is installed in the interior and the fuselage glued together.
(https://i.postimg.cc/85QC0mLH/IMG-20210125-212128474.jpg)
Just a hint at what will be seen once the fuselage top is glued in place.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9Qk0GhMs/IMG-20210125-212151010.jpg)
I have progressed since the above photos but haven't taken any pics yet. Perhaps later today. Here are the schemes I am considering: ( Pulled off of the web in a search)
(https://i.postimg.cc/PqBLkjn1/9-7-b1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/N0yyV0Sg/9-13.jpg)
I am leaning heavily towards the second. Time to contact von Buckles about serial number stencils ::)
RAGIII
PS: Some of you May remember how My first SPAD VII ended years ago...and the culprit whose wings knocked it off of the case ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/rF9kBCTN/DSCF4589.jpg)
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This is where I am at the end of todays' session. Just a bit of filling and sanding needed on the engine cowling and panels. Better fit than I acheived on My first one ::)
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/KYdv5dd8/IMG-20210127-165235142.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/6qKWkC6s/IMG-20210127-165300994.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8CFzM1XY/IMG-20210127-165250885.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/8cbpNss7/IMG-20210127-165312723.jpg)
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Great stuff. Like the canvas effect on your first effort and camo on the Salmson!
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Looks like it has a lot of surface detail. Nice!
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Excellent progress on your build Rick , lovely job on the inners to boot !
I do like the second option better then the first one , then again with stripes it's hard to argue with that :)
Alexis
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Wow, the fuselage is already closed - that can be called progress!
I'm sure it will be a nice add on to you collection of SPADs.
Cheers,
Frank
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I haven't been on the forum for a couple of days and there's another great subject with the fuselage already closed. I see a lot of louvres, are you gonna open them up? I have a Spad in the stash so I wonder if it's possible.
Nice work on the cockpit.
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Great stuff. Like the canvas effect on your first effort and camo on the Salmson!
Thanks!
RAGIII
Looks like it has a lot of surface detail. Nice!
Yes, the surface detail is nice but I will lose a lot sanding :-[
RAGIII
Excellent progress on your build Rick , lovely job on the inners to boot !
I do like the second option better then the first one , then again with stripes it's hard to argue with that :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
Wow, the fuselage is already closed - that can be called progress!
I'm sure it will be a nice add on to you collection of SPADs.
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank, I hope it ends better than the First one 8)
RAGIII
I haven't been on the forum for a couple of days and there's another great subject with the fuselage already closed. I see a lot of louvres, are you gonna open them up? I have a Spad in the stash so I wonder if it's possible.
Nice work on the cockpit.
Thanks for commenting! The louvres can be opened but I will use a wash. Trying to keep this one as simple as possible ::)
I added the lacing to the left fuselage side using Archer Fine Transfers Decal:
(https://i.postimg.cc/rwqWsv8v/IMG-20210128-185031316.jpg)
RAGIII
PS: I still have a bit of filling and sanding to do ::)
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Great work and quick!
/Fredrik
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Great work and quick!
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik!
RAGIII
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Wow, Rick, you really snuck this one right in under the radar! But lovely and really beautifully detailed work! And what a great subject... I'm enjoying this a lot! Regards, Marc.
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Wow, Rick, you really snuck this one right in under the radar! But lovely and really beautifully detailed work! And what a great subject... I'm enjoying this a lot! Regards, Marc.
Thanks Marc! I am not really doing anything special on this one. Far less interior detailing than on the SPAD XIII's ;D This one will be more about the scheme than the detail...or so I hope 8)
RAGIII
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Really Rick! First you write that you did not intend to post a build log, then when you do you go roaring away like an express train! How are we supposed to keep up with you?
This has gone together so quickly I am struggling to keep up! I notice that once again you are adding lots of lovely detail which you then proceed to (rapidly) cover up!
Either of those schemes would be good - but it is your choice and I am sure that whatever you choose it will be another great model.
Stephen.
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Really Rick! First you write that you did not intend to post a build log, then when you do you go roaring away like an express train! How are we supposed to keep up with you?
This has gone together so quickly I am struggling to keep up! I notice that once again you are adding lots of lovely detail which you then proceed to (rapidly) cover up!
Either of those schemes would be good - but it is your choice and I am sure that whatever you choose it will be another great model.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen I always appreciate your comments! I have chosen scheme #2 and have oredered some serial number stencils from Von Buckles 8)
RAGIII
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Wow, that fuselage really looks great. These Archer stitchings look much better than PE stitching, I am thinking of buying that stuff.
Andread
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Wow, that fuselage really looks great. These Archer stitchings look much better than PE stitching, I am thinking of buying that stuff.
Andread
Thanks Andreas. The Archer Transfers are great. That being said they are NOT cheap! Also get them while you can as I saw something on FB that said they No Longer have access to the resin they used.
RAGIII
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and a VERY SMALL update: I added the spent shell chute and the Copper State Models Vickers is ready to be permanently mounted when needed.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/CLWXhPhT/144420503-4387011711325867-6499592247798843137-o.jpg)
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RAGIII,
Progress is progress, no matter how small it might be. Looking good!
Kevin
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RAGIII,
Progress is progress, no matter how small it might be. Looking good!
Kevin
Thanks Kevin!
RAGIII
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Still looking good !
Alexis
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Give us a break Rick: you are building models as if they are coming off the production line...! The model looks very good indeed, regardless of whether you have gone through 4-5 steps on the instruction sheet or only 1!
Stephen.
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Still looking good !
Alexis
Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
Give us a break Rick: you are building models as if they are coming off the production line...! The model looks very good indeed, regardless of whether you have gone through 4-5 steps on the instruction sheet or only 1!
Stephen.
The funny thing is that Many feel I am building quickly. I think if one counted you would find that Mike Norris and Alexis, just as an example have finished far more than Me :o That being said there "May" be a surprise or two in the near future 8)
RAGIII
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I love surprises! Most of them anyway, Corona and its consequences not so much!
/Fredrik
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I love surprises! Most of them anyway, Corona and its consequences not so much!
/Fredrik
Here is the first surprise 8) I have no idea how the second SPAD VII hit My Bench ;D
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/ht66wsjv/IMG-20210201-172107424.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TwXS2PnX/IMG-20210201-172124948.jpg)
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What , this one isn't glue together yet ! What the hell Rick , you have been holding out on us ;)
What livery will this one carry ?
Alexis
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What , this one isn't glue together yet ! What the hell Rick , you have been holding out on us ;)
What livery will this one carry ?
Alexis
;D
This one will Most Likely be William Thaw of the LaFayete Escadrille using Pheon Decals.
RAGIII
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So now you have appeased my want for surprises. Very good and it will of course turn out as good as all the others and it'll be as fun a build to follow as all the others as well, but you know how appeasement works... We want more surprises now!
/Fredrik ;)
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Great Rick! I've now lost count . . . where will you house this growing flock of SPADs and Dreideckers? Must convert the extra bedroom into a model Aerodrome with multiple hangars. ;D
While you're at it, might as well throw in one (or two) more, right up your alley. ;D:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50745856592_e1d96a1bab_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2kjeMcW)Hangman’ SPAD (https://flic.kr/p/2kjeMcW) by Robert Hallinger (https://www.flickr.com/photos/188152442@N04/), on Flickr
Just kidding! One surprise is enough. ;) Enjoy! I know I will.
Best,
Bob
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Rick, adding another SPAD was no surprise, because I'm sure you lost the capability to build _one_ kit at a time some builds ago (https://www.modellboard.net/Smileys/Modellboard/ziel.gif)
Have fun with this group of SPADs!
Cheers,
Frank
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Rick, adding another SPAD was no surprise, because I'm sure you lost the capability to build _one_ kit at a time some builds ago (https://www.modellboard.net/Smileys/Modellboard/ziel.gif)
Have fun with this group of SPADs!
Cheers,
Frank
I agree with Frank: you are the multi-builder par excellence! In fact I am not sure that you have not got a third one hanging from the ceiling ready to drop on your desk too.......
Stephen.
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So now you have appeased my want for surprises. Very good and it will of course turn out as good as all the others and it'll be as fun a build to follow as all the others as well, but you know how appeasement works... We want more surprises now!
/Fredrik ;)
8)
RAGIII
Great Rick! I've now lost count . . . where will you house this growing flock of SPADs and Dreideckers? Must convert the extra bedroom into a model Aerodrome with multiple hangars. ;D
While you're at it, might as well throw in one (or two) more, right up your alley. ;D:
Just kidding! One surprise is enough. ;) Enjoy! I know I will.
Best,
Bob
Thanks Bob. No more for now but I will keep those two in Mind ;D
RAGIII
Rick, adding another SPAD was no surprise, because I'm sure you lost the capability to build _one_ kit at a time some builds ago (https://www.modellboard.net/Smileys/Modellboard/ziel.gif)
Have fun with this group of SPADs!
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank. I really tried but the second one just kept calling ;D
RAGIII
Rick, adding another SPAD was no surprise, because I'm sure you lost the capability to build _one_ kit at a time some builds ago (https://www.modellboard.net/Smileys/Modellboard/ziel.gif)
Have fun with this group of SPADs!
Cheers,
Frank
I agree with Frank: you are the multi-builder par excellence! In fact I am not sure that you have not got a third one hanging from the ceiling ready to drop on your desk too.......
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. I can assure you that I have No More "SPADs" to land on My Desk 8)
RAGIII
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So, the second SPAD VII references:
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/brdKK2pz/IMG-20210204-164002070.jpg)
PS: I am liking the S. Bigelow red nosed with eyes Bird 8)
RAGIII
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That is an attractive choice Rick , can't go wrong with red ;)
Alexis
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That is an attractive choice Rick , can't go wrong with red ;)
Alexis
You are right Alexis! I think I am going with that one. Yesterday I got #2 together so I am almost to the initial painting stage on both 8)
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/bNbsMmgF/IMG-20210204-205429417.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XXM6dcyr/IMG-20210204-205358838.jpg)
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RAGIII,
This is bound to be another great pair of builds to follow. Your work always provides valuable guidance to us.
Kevin
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RAGIII,
This is bound to be another great pair of builds to follow. Your work always provides valuable guidance to us.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin! I do remember from the first one I almost finished that mounting the upper wing was a challenge. Hopefully I will get them both done :o By the way I occasionally provide valuable guidance on what Not to DO ;D
RAGIII
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That’s great, Rick. You make these kits look a great joy to build.
Andreas
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That’s great, Rick. You make these kits look a great joy to build.
Andreas
Thanks Andreas. I am trying to keep the fun in this build. Both have been given a coat of Tamiya grey paint. Just a bit of touch up sanding before starting on the schemes.
RAGIII
The RFC bird:
(https://i.postimg.cc/B6QxKptN/IMG-20210205-184104563.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/R0m1M4Bk/IMG-20210205-184050938.jpg)
SPA 124:
(https://i.postimg.cc/dtzmxGSt/IMG-20210205-183944420.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/MTP1bBQw/IMG-20210205-184008503.jpg)
PS: In the Mail Today. Thanks Von Mask Master!
(https://i.postimg.cc/hG6gRghV/IMG-20210206-131105714.jpg)
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2 nice clean looking builds, looking forward to seeing them in paint
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2 nice clean looking builds, looking forward to seeing them in paint
Thanks, I did the final filling and sanding today. Should start the painting in the next couple of days. I also added a couple of filler caps to the upper forward fuselage that Roden missed 8)
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhWQhY0v/IMG-20210206-180945025.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/mrNy13FD/IMG-20210206-180959630.jpg)
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Congratulation on these, they look very nice indeed! The surface detail is great.
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This is looking great! I can second what others have said; inspiring, clean, instructive, and add great photos to that!
/Fredrik
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Nice job Rick,
I do rather like the Spad, that one didn’t appear in Wingnut’s catalogue is a great shame..
I will be building one in 1/48 at some point :D
Carry on Rick..
Guy
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Can't wait to start seeing some colour on these beauties :)
Alexis
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Great looking work, Rick. Bring on the paint!
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Congratulation on these, they look very nice indeed! The surface detail is great.
Thanks for the comments. As always they are appreciated.
RAGIII
Can't wait to start seeing some colour on these beauties :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis! I have started the process but won't be ready to post progress photos for a couple of days at least.
RAGIII
Nice job Rick,
I do rather like the Spad, that one didn’t appear in Wingnut’s catalogue is a great shame..
I will be building one in 1/48 at some point :D
Carry on Rick..
Guy
Thanks for looking and and commenting Guy! I look forward to that 1/48th kit 8)
RAGIII
This is looking great! I can second what others have said; inspiring, clean, instructive, and add great photos to that!
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik!
Great looking work, Rick. Bring on the paint!
Thanks Ken. Like I said to Alexis, I am workinng on the paint ;D
RAGIII
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Stunning progress, Rick! That Roden kit is an under-rated honey, and is coming together beautifully -- as twins! -- Please take your time with the painting stage, there is nothing worse that paint that peels off or goes funny! Regards, Marc.
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Stunning progress, Rick! That Roden kit is an under-rated honey, and is coming together beautifully -- as twins! -- Please take your time with the painting stage, there is nothing worse that paint that peels off or goes funny! Regards, Marc.
Thanks Marc! I would say that All of the Roden kits are under-rated! That being said they are more challenging than WNW. I still have to face mounting the upper wing which is a tricky process. Also the forward fuselage / cowl panels take work, something I probably could have done better on! The painting will be a slower process as I plan to mask off at least some rib tapes, more so on the RFC bird 8)
RAGIII
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Good progress, looks nice with all those panels.
I will be building one in 1/48 at some point :D
#MeeToo
Cheers,
Frank
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I'm just disappointed that you didn't go with "The Hangman" as Bob pointed out. Why? That was my first Enemy Ace comic, I think I was maybe eight or nine at the time.
I do love me some SPAD's!
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I'm just disappointed that you didn't go with "The Hangman" as Bob pointed out. Why? That was my first Enemy Ace comic, I think I was maybe eight or nine at the time.
I do love me some SPAD's!
Maybe sometime in the future. In the meantime I decided to go a different route with the rib tapes so I did the linen portions of the two in progress. I used some black basing and a mix of Tamiya paints. They look less yellowish in the photos than in reality.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/FFqL7QSn/IMG-20210208-161640546.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/hGSJH4Fh/IMG-20210208-161618636.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/HLBJHGHz/IMG-20210208-161720485.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/hjvXtCtB/IMG-20210208-161737953.jpg)
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Thumbs up Rick !
Alexis
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Thumbs up Rick !
Alexis
Thanks Alexis! Hopefully more will get done today ::)
RAGIII
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Two lovely models in the making there Rick. I do like very much the extra details that you have added tot he nose. Small in themselves they add much to the finished model.
Stephen.
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Watching this paint job progress with great interest!
Cheers,
Hugh
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Two lovely models in the making there Rick. I do like very much the extra details that you have added tot he nose. Small in themselves they add much to the finished model.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. Although not perfect they do lend to the "Look"
RAGIII
Watching this paint job progress with great interest!
Cheers,
Hugh
Thanks Hugh! Here is the end of todays session. The forward fuselage "Matching" Ripolin " color has been added to both. Funny thing although both were prepared and painted in the same way with the same paint I got just a couple of places on the Lafayette bird that had paint lifted due to masking. No big deal to touch up!
RAGIII
19 squadron:
(https://i.postimg.cc/brKwz6kr/IMG-20210209-155036548.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/5txNNQYB/IMG-20210209-155047786.jpg)
SPA 124:
(https://i.postimg.cc/XqZv6MZt/IMG-20210209-155109846.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3wnryrmP/IMG-20210209-155124897.jpg)
and the upper wings:
(https://i.postimg.cc/xCpdZjdK/IMG-20210209-155202189.jpg)
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RAGIII,
Great contrast between the two colors on these Spads.
Kevin
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8)
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There's always a risk of suspected double or tripple vision with your builds, but now one really needs to peel ones eyes in order to make sure it isn't a double posting! ::) Looks great though! Both of them!
/Fredrik
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Some stunning progress, Rick! Some beautiful variations in colour too - you are quite a master at that! Enjoying this immensely! Regards, Marc.
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HEY !!!!! ;D
Alexis
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Rick,
Somewhere in this thread, or another SPAD thread, I've missed what paint you're using for the fabric portions and for the Ripolin section. What are you using sir, it looks great!
WD
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RAGIII,
Great contrast between the two colors on these Spads.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin I appreciate your comments!
RAGIII
8)
;D
RAGIII
There's always a risk of suspected double or tripple vision with your builds, but now one really needs to peel ones eyes in order to make sure it isn't a double posting! ::) Looks great though! Both of them!
/Fredrik
Thanks Fredrik. Once the Markings start it won't be as difficult to tell them apart 8)
RAGIII
Some stunning progress, Rick! Some beautiful variations in colour too - you are quite a master at that! Enjoying this immensely! Regards, Marc.
Thanks Marc. I appreciate your comments. I am far away from being a Master but I do like most of the concoctions I come p with ::)
RAGIII
HEY !!!!! ;D
Alexis
???
RAGIII
Rick,
Somewhere in this thread, or another SPAD thread, I've missed what paint you're using for the fabric portions and for the Ripolin section. What are you using sir, it looks great!
WD
I think so far in this thread I have just mentioned Tamiya Paints so you really haven't missed anything. Now for the answer to the best of MY ability. I have mentioned before that I am a "Seat of the Pants" Modeler. I rarely measure anything I mix! So I can tell you that the lighter color has Tamiya Buff, Desert Yellow, and white, mixed until I liked the color. The darker color is Tamiya Desert Yellow and white...lots of white. It may have had a bit of the lighter color mixed in also. I will try hard on My next build to take notes so I can answer questions a little better .
RAGIII
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These are coming along real nice. Nice paintjob also.
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Lovely, I especially like the contrast between linen and metal parts colour.
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These are coming along real nice. Nice paintjob also.
Thanks for the comments! Greatly appreciated.
RAGIII
Lovely, I especially like the contrast between linen and metal parts colour.
Thanks Przemol! I am pleased with the outcome on the colors Myself ::)
RAGIII
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Rick, you and your mojo are flying high - fantastic results!
I will try hard on My next build to take notes so I can answer questions a little better .
You yes please! +1 of the voters for it!
Your paint mixes and the paint jobs itself are a great contribution to you nice and realistic looking models.
Cheers,
Frank
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Rick, you and your mojo are flying high - fantastic results!
I will try hard on My next build to take notes so I can answer questions a little better .
You yes please! +1 of the voters for it!
Your paint mixes and the paint jobs itself are a great contribution to you nice and realistic looking models.
Cheers,
Frank
I will Try ::)
RAGIII
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I have begun to add the markings to both SPADS prior to weathering. I was able to use the lower wing roundel from the Hobby Craft SPAD XIII on the SPA 124 birds' upper wing. I had no roundels to match the size for the lower wing. I was forced to "Learn" a new skill. I have had the OLFA tool for about 25 years and never used it :-[ It took about 5 attempts for each roundel but I am pleased with MY first effort. I also had to match the color as close as possible to the Upper wing roundels. Valejo red with a drop of Heavy red. Pretty close to MY eye. Of course I still need to add the blue center 8) As for the British SPAD I have begun to mask and paint the stripes on the rear fuselage.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/RV6wkNxg/IMG-20210213-072201145.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XJswb5vz/IMG-20210213-071345048.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/hPkVccSc/IMG-20210213-071410449.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/T1hnYPLY/IMG-20210213-071444539.jpg)
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:)
Well , you are far better at using the circle cutter , tried a few times and always came out egged shape ...and I hate eggs !
Alexis
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Well , you are far better at using the circle cutter , tried a few times and always came out egged shape ...and I hate eggs !
Alexis
Thanks for looking in Alexis. Personally I Love Eggs....as long as they are an ingredient in something like Cake ;D
RAGIII
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Looks perfect to me Rick!
Guy
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Looks perfect to me Rick!
Guy
Thanks Guy! Not quite perfect but it works for Me 8)
RAGIII
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I have frequently hand painted roundels on my models Rick - I use a pair of dividers to mark out the circles - and yours looks super good, the more so given the size of the model.
A skill well learned here.
Stephen.
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Well done Rick, looks great!
That could also be a job for the electronic cutter!
BTW, there is also a "Stepless Adjustment Circular Cutter" by DSPIAE, but this tool is so high priced, that you get for a little more the electronic cutter. And this one can cut much more than only circles. And the knifes are the same :)
Cheers,
Frank
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I have frequently hand painted roundels on my models Rick - I use a pair of dividers to mark out the circles - and yours looks super good, the more so given the size of the model.
A skill well learned here.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. I added the inner blue today and will take photos lateer. I will certainly try to perfect and use this method in the future!
RAGIII
Well done Rick, looks great!
That could also be a job for the electronic cutter!
BTW, there is also a "Stepless Adjustment Circular Cutter" by DSPIAE, but this tool is so high priced, that you get for a little more the electronic cutter. And this one can cut much more than only circles. And the knifes are the same :)
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank, I appreciate the comments! I am afraid that this simple tool will be the limit of My self made markings tools. The others are out of My budget ::)
RAGIII
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Here are the latest photos of both SPADs'. I have added the blue centers to the roundels. I also painted the basics of the bands on the rear fuselage of the 19 squadron bird. I am sort of disappointed in the band in that I have FAR MORE touch up and re alignment to do than I had hoped. Oh well, one out of two ain't bad 8)
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/TYDYGKqw/IMG-20210213-182220317.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kMZXkQSz/IMG-20210213-182234388.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/j2GxPTKt/IMG-20210213-182300172.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/d37Qh1b5/IMG-20210213-182307860.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/y8C6N7vT/IMG-20210213-182311198.jpg)
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The markings sure dress up the plane. They look good and don't have to be perfect - the originals were hand painted.
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The markings sure dress up the plane. They look good and don't have to be perfect - the originals were hand painted.
Thanks Ken. I would agree perfect is not always correct. In the case of the red, white, and blue band they are just too far off to not be corrected. I will get it done soon 8)
RAGIII
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I'm in hangover mode so ...what do you mean by ..( too far off ) ?
They look pretty good from this view 8)
Alexis
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I'm in hangover mode so ...what do you mean by ..( too far off ) ?
They look pretty good from this view 8)
Alexis
Your eyesight is fuzzy so I guess you will just have to trust My Judgement ;D
RAGIII
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Alexis
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Alexis
All fixed now Alexis! I took Kens advice...it isn't perfect but it is at a level I can accept 8)
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXcLMQWK/IMG-20210214-180154580.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tTjnkV6c/IMG-20210214-180120562.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/nrdsnRW8/IMG-20210214-180142681.jpg)
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I couldn't get to sleep last night so figured I would mask the nose of the SPA 124 SPAD prior to airbrushing the red. After masking the basic outline I began to think about how difficult it would be to paint between the gear legs and how much more masking I needed to do ::) So I pulled out a Hairy Stick and the Valejo red I had mixed for the roundels. The results are pleasing to My eyes. Valejo hand brushes quite nicely. I also used the blue and painted the fittings.
RAG!!!
(https://i.postimg.cc/SsxS4wXm/IMG-20210215-083028345.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/KYFcqKxk/IMG-20210215-083038426.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/63b9pYRn/IMG-20210215-083055319.jpg)
PS: The Indian Head is from the Pheon Lafayette Sheet.
Both in their current state. Next up weathering:
(https://i.postimg.cc/s2cjtVgn/IMG-20210215-083154028.jpg)
and...what happens when you aren't paying attention! I was using several references. When I started painting the band on the RFC bird I picked up the Osprey Book to verify the order of colors. I thought I was doing the one in the SPAD VII aces book but Nope not the same one. So now I either repaint or bother Bob Von Buckles to do another Mask for the serial. Note this one is B 1537:
(https://i.postimg.cc/htnhwZ0t/IMG-20210215-075629706-BURST000-COVER-TOP.jpg)
and... the one I have the mask for the serial # is 1627
(https://i.postimg.cc/W17tPm96/IMG-20210215-080228851.jpg)
I don't Know why the colors are reversed. Perhaps denoting different flights?
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Hey there Mr. Sleepless ,
Not sure what to say about your ref's there Rick , but could this be an error from the printers ? I just find it weird that the sqd would reverse their unit markings .
Alexis
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Hey there Mr. Sleepless ,
Not sure what to say about your ref's there Rick , but could this be an error from the printers ? I just find it weird that the sqd would reverse their unit markings .
Alexis
It could be Alexis but several sources show the reversed colors. I have NO PHOTOS showing this scheme! I have to therefore "ASSUME" that for some reason they were indeed reversed ::) 19 Squadron did change up markings quite often. Also like I said it could be a flight thing. ?????
RAGIII
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Rick, those look marvelous! Your painting is really quite good. I just remembered that I have at least a pair of these kits somewhere in storage, and you're providing both inspiration and a great roadmap! ;D I am still amazed at how much you get done in such a short time frame, and so well. Outstanding accomplishment, my friend!
Best regards,
Bob
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Rick, those look marvelous! Your painting is really quite good. I just remembered that I have at least a pair of these kits somewhere in storage, and you're providing both inspiration and a great roadmap! ;D I am still amazed at how much you get done in such a short time frame, and so well. Outstanding accomplishment, my friend!
Best regards,
Bob
Thanks Bob. Your comments are appreciated. I have Always enjoyed the painting process more than the building. Probably why I tend to let some things go that I shouldn't during the building process ::) The kit is challenging as I have said but if you have one( or two) ::) go for it! The results can be terrific. I hope My luck with these two continues to hold up!
RAGIII
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The painting on both models is first class Rick. I simply cannot see why you are concerned with either model, (except of course the order of colours on the fuselage bands: I am referring to the quality of the painting). There is nothing wrong with a hairy stick for applying paint - I use them all the time!
Stephen.
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The painting on both models is first class Rick. I simply cannot see why you are concerned with either model, (except of course the order of colours on the fuselage bands: I am referring to the quality of the painting). There is nothing wrong with a hairy stick for applying paint - I use them all the time!
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. I fixed what concerned me on the RFC bird ( except the order of those colours ;D) Like I said I am actually quite pleased with the hand painted nose! To My eye it is as smooth as the airbrushed colors 8)
RAGIII
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Both of these look fantastic!! The hand painted cowling looks perfect to me. Maybe the crew chief painting the plane was colorblind and got his reds and blues mixed up... This definitely makes me want to break out one of my Spads and start another project...
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Rick, I forgot to ask--Did you use Vallejo Model Color red or Model Air red for the brush-painted cowl? Any thinning in either case? What size and shape brush? Just curious, for future reference. Thanks.
Best,
Bob
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Both of these look fantastic!! The hand painted cowling looks perfect to me. Maybe the crew chief painting the plane was colorblind and got his reds and blues mixed up... This definitely makes me want to break out one of my Spads and start another project...
Thanks! Like I said, if you have one go for it!! When you are ready of course ;D
RAGIII
Rick, I forgot to ask--Did you use Vallejo Model Color red or Model Air red for the brush-painted cowl? Any thinning in either case? What size and shape brush? Just curious, for future reference. Thanks.
Best,
Bob
Bob,
I used the mix I had made for the roundels. Vallejo Model Color red #70.947 mixed with a drop or two of Vallejo Game Extra Opaque Heavy red #72.141. It was thinned with Vallejo thinner and I think had a bit of Future mixed in. I used a cheap round brush not sure what size but probably in the #1 or 2 range 8) It took a couple of coats but remained very smooth.
RAGIII
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They both look outstanding Rick: The redoing of the stripes has paid dividends as it looks quite nice. You got a couple of nice ones here in the works Rick. Looking forward to seeing the next update.
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Looking great so far, one of those builds that makes me want to break open my SPAD.... but, some other stuff to finish first.
Definately inspirational, though!
This picture is captioned as being B1627:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakegoodman/10180877256/
If it is indeed B1627 it, other than the holes in the cowling, appears to have a forked pitot on the wing strut and a rear view mirror on the center section.
And it can't be painted teeth underneath the cowling, can it??
Jeroen
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They both look outstanding Rick: The redoing of the stripes has paid dividends as it looks quite nice. You got a couple of nice ones here in the works Rick. Looking forward to seeing the next update.
Thanks Mark. I appreciate the comments!
RAGIII
Looking great so far, one of those builds that makes me want to break open my SPAD.... but, some other stuff to finish first.
Definately inspirational, though!
This picture is captioned as being B1627:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakegoodman/10180877256/
If it is indeed B1627 it, other than the holes in the cowling, appears to have a forked pitot on the wing strut and a rear view mirror on the center section.
And it can't be painted teeth underneath the cowling, can it??
Jeroen
Thanks for commenting Jeroen! Also thanks very much for the Photo!! It is evident on this one that the blue is on the leading edge however it also "Seems" to have a quite thin white band on the front? It looks as though choosing the "Winter" cowling was a good guess. That being said I don't think that I will be drilling all of those holes for cooling ::) In addition the side panels have the screened type which it is too late for me to change. Mine will just have to represent the aircraft before all of that was done to prepare for Summer Cooling of the engine 8)
RAGIII
PS: I think I need to contact Von Buckles for the serial number mask soon!
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I haven't done much modeling in the last two days but did make some minor progress on the Lafayette SPAD. I have added the light rib tapes often seen on SPAD VII's.( I am using decal rib tpes from a WNW Fokker DVII) I won't go as far as saying the application was "Random" but it wasn't consistent either! I managed to Fubar the white circle decal that outlines the "Eyes" so I am in the process of Trying to hand paint them. I have also painted the rudder and added the appropriate serial number.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/sxwqrtHh/IMG-20210218-171329692.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/yY82P8WX/IMG-20210218-171345857.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qBL9y3Bv/IMG-20210218-171358210.jpg)
PS: Some random thoughts on the kit itself that I probably should have mentioned earlier:
1. Considering when this kit was first released it really is Well Detailed. Nothing in the interior is totally incorrect so just needs tweaking. The seat in particular is nicely shaped, ( So Much So that I used the seats from both of these kits in My Earlier SPAD XIII builds and therefore had to use the Eduard PE to make MY own out of sheet styrene 8) Roden includes parts in this release for early to Mid production SPAD VII's. Also included is the Symmetrical and Asymmetrical wheels and covers. The way they handled the turtle deck / fuselage assembly so one does not lose the fine stringer detail sanding the seam on top was quite innovative at the time. Long before Eduard was praised for this method on their 1/48th scale SPAD XIII.
2. Issues: Yes the kit has a few issues. The most well known is the fit, or lack thereof of the engine and engine covers. If one is doing a SPAD VII that has the louvered side panels just leave off the cylinder banks. Install the main engine halves and prop shaft and all is good. ( It won't be seen from the interior view once assembled!) If doing a bird with screening on those panels cut away about half of the cylinger banks and again all will be well. What is seen through the screens will be OK using this method.
The fit of the multi piece cowling and upper fuselage panels take Care! I did OK but further trimming and test fitting probably would have made it even better.
One minor thing on the interior. The mounting panel/ control stick seems to be mounted too far forward. There is a fuel gauge mounted on the floor between that assembly and the cover over the rudder pedals on the real aircraft so the spacing is off if built OOB.
I will add more thoughts as the build progresses and I hope this helps those with the kit!
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RAGIII,
Thanks for advising us of these things to look out for. Shared knowledge sure helps. The SPADs are looking great.
Kevin
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Interesting effect with the lighter rib tapes. Looks good.
Cheers,
Hugh
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Looking very colourful Rick!
Great progress ;)
Guy
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It's nice that you have documented these aspects of the kits. Hopefully Roden will not have the same issues (but will probably have other issues).
Lord knows that serial number's got to be right! ;D
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RAGIII,
Thanks for advising us of these things to look out for. Shared knowledge sure helps. The SPADs are looking great.
Kevin
Thanks Kevin. I will try to do a bit better later on identifying some of the parts for the different verions.
RAGIII
Interesting effect with the lighter rib tapes. Looks good.
Cheers,
Hugh
Thanks Hugh. I have searched online for photos showing the lighter tapes but only found one. Funny in that My books are loaded with good photos ;D
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/MZQqj89p/36b2906998dd99ad21a12c9de1705cca.jpg)Looking very colourful Rick!
Great progress ;)
Guy
Thanks Guy!
RAGIII
It's nice that you have documented these aspects of the kits. Hopefully Roden will not have the same issues (but will probably have other issues).
Lord knows that serial number's got to be right! ;D
Yep, the serial number is crucial ::) Thankfully I am using the Pheon decals for this bird!
RAGIII
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Where do you guys find the time for spending in front of the bench ?
You are making quick work on these ones Rick , which by the way are looking fab !
Alexis
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Where do you guys find the time for spending in front of the bench ?
You are making quick work on these ones Rick , which by the way are looking fab !
Alexis
As for the Bench Time, retirement is Great ;D Thanks for the comment on the Models Alexis!
RAGIII
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I'm "retired too " but cannot keep up with your pace !
Looking good as usual !
Ed
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I'm "retired too " but cannot keep up with your pace !
Looking good as usual !
Ed
Thanks Amigo! What I do in quantity you make up for in quality 8)
RAGIII
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Both SPADS are now in the same general place and ready for weathering.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/hGdPDhP8/IMG-20210219-184109001.jpg)
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Ooooooh , very nice indeed :) Is it me or is the top wing on the spad on the left ( wing doesn't look center ? ) Yes I have my glasses on ::) Or is this just the angle of how it is sitting ..
Alexis
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Ooooooh , very nice indeed :) Is it me or is the top wing on the spad on the left ( wing doesn't look center ? ) Yes I have my glasses on ::) Or is this just the angle of how it is sitting ..
Alexis
Thanks Alexis. The wings are not glued in place so yes, probably off center ::)
RAGIII
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These are looking really fine Rick.
Alexis is right: you really do move quickly with building your kits. Like Ed, I am retired too, but although I may scratch build and therefore take longer, I still seem to suffer from periodic blocks and down times which slow me right down. You just seem to steam on regardless - and as I have already comented, the quality of your work remains very hig.
Stephen.
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These are looking really fine Rick.
Alexis is right: you really do move quickly with building your kits. Like Ed, I am retired too, but although I may scratch build and therefore take longer, I still seem to suffer from periodic blocks and down times which slow me right down. You just seem to steam on regardless - and as I have already comented, the quality of your work remains very hig.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. I think I have mentioned that I try to spend about 3 hours daily at the bench. What gets done in that time can vary. I am nearing the difficult part of this build with potential for disaster...mounting the upper wings :o
RAGIII
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And today I started weathering. The first up is the Lafayette SPAD. I used oils to give some variation and depth to the scheme. Yellow Ochre, burnt sienna, and some black on the louvers.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/pdmf1RZ5/IMG-20210221-174735890.jpg)
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Subtle yet very effective RAGIII.
Cheers,
Hugh
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These are looking really good - the oils really help to bring out some variation on the cdl
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Subtle yet very effective RAGIII.
Cheers,
Hugh
Thanks Hugh. Subtle is what I was aiming for 8)
RAGIII
These are looking really good - the oils really help to bring out some variation on the cdl
Thanks. I was hoping for a break in the CDL appearance and I appreciate your comments!
RAGIII
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Subtly realistic, Rick. I like how you've toned down the white on the roundels.
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Subtly realistic, Rick. I like how you've toned down the white on the roundels.
Agreed , looks fab ! You have hit the perfect balance with the weathering . :)
Alexis
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Subtly realistic, Rick. I like how you've toned down the white on the roundels.
Thanks Ken, Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
Subtly realistic, Rick. I like how you've toned down the white on the roundels.
Agreed , looks fab ! You have hit the perfect balance with the weathering . :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
So now the RFC SPAD is in the same place having used the same process:
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/L673hPC7/152688502-4450241491669555-8028240231320816980-n.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TwRrBJ1y/153603406-4450241691669535-5739395508162566636-n.jpg)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/fbQ7fNhf/153630605-4450241595002878-2487194288196671238-n.jpg)
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Eye bling !
Alexis
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Wow, Rick! You have managed a very realistic and varied finish on that sucker. It has depth and delicate changes in tones. You made a potentially dull/boring finish into an interesting gobsmacking one. Just lovely...
Dan
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Really nailed it Rick,
Very effective use of oils!
Guy
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Looking great! The colours look brilliant to me.
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Huh? Whu? I missed this. Love the bird, scheme, execution....now I can check in !!
Steve
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Eye bling !
Alexis
Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
Wow, Rick! You have managed a very realistic and varied finish on that sucker. It has depth and delicate changes in tones. You made a potentially dull/boring finish into an interesting gobsmacking one. Just lovely...
Dan
Thanks Dan, Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
Really nailed it Rick,
Very effective use of oils!
Guy
Thanks for the kind comments Guy!
RAGIII
Looking great! The colours look brilliant to me.
Thanks William!
RAGIII
Huh? Whu? I missed this. Love the bird, scheme, execution....now I can check in !!
Steve
Thanks Steve. Good to have you along for the ride!
RAGIII
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I miss a couple of evenings and two models go from being half finished to nearly complete!
The tones on both are super Rick - they could so easily look the same but you have managed to introduce colour variations which make them subtly but distinctly different.
Stephen.
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I miss a couple of evenings and two models go from being half finished to nearly complete!
The tones on both are super Rick - they could so easily look the same but you have managed to introduce colour variations which make them subtly but distinctly different.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. Not almost finished though, you know My builds. I still need a disaster to overcome 8)
RAGIII
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Both birds are very nice so far, but I prefer the red nose!
I hope you are able to finish them without those "happy little accidents". Good luck!
Cheers,
Frank
PS: I think I will do one SPAD in Shamrock livre.
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Both birds are very nice so far, but I prefer the red nose!
I hope you are able to finish them without those "happy little accidents". Good luck!
Cheers,
Frank
PS: I think I will do one SPAD in Shamrock livre.
Thanks Frank. Yesterday I managed to glue the upper wing onto the Lafayette bird. The RFC one was a different story ::) I am hoping to get it fixed later today!
RAGIII
PS: I would Love to see you do the Shamrock SPAD!
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So, I intimated earlier that there could be an issue with one of the SPAD builds. As it turns out I have to do some scratch building of struts. This was totally My fault as always so do not think it is any way related to the kit!!!!! That being said the other SPAD, The Lafayette Bird, went pretty much flawlessly. I have now mounted all of the struts and next up is some touch up and then rigging.
RAGIII
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Looking good Rick!
On the downhill run now :)
Guy
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If I ever add a Spad to my collection , I'm sending it to you to be built ;)
Alexis
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I like how this is turning out, Rick.
Are all the markings on this plane? Maybe you discussed this before and I missed it.
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They both are looking really nice!! When I think of a SPAD, I always think of an US Aero Squadron marked plane and not the French or British. They look just as pretty in those markings as well.
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Looking good Rick!
On the downhill run now :)
Guy
Thanks Guy. I hope you are correct about the "Downhill Slope"
RAGIII
If I ever add a Spad to my collection , I'm sending it to you to be built ;)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis. You would need to send two as I seem to be prone to screwing one up ::)
RAGIII
I like how this is turning out, Rick.
Are all the markings on this plane? Maybe you discussed this before and I missed it.
Thanks Ken. As for markings this is all it gets. Pretty plain and standard Scheme other than the nose 8)
RAGIII
They both are looking really nice!! When I think of a SPAD, I always think of an US Aero Squadron marked plane and not the French or British. They look just as pretty in those markings as well.
Thanks. As for Me I like the British and French schemes as Much as the USAS. If I get the 19 squadron bird up to snuff I will have some of all of the above in the case!
RAGIII
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I have not spent much bench time on the SPADs this week but thought I would post a small update. First a little better photo of the SPA 124 bird. ( I haven't touched this one at all since the last update)
(https://i.postimg.cc/CK5MdH08/IMG-20210225-172159827.jpg)
Now for the full story on the RFC SPAD. After successfully mounting the upper wing on the Lafayette SPAD I went to the RFC bird next. I used the same procedure but managed to break a couple of the cabanes loose. So I put some glue on them, got them aligned and tried again. The wing went wobbly and this time three struts detached. So I went back to the days of My Youth and figured I would add more glue. I let it (Dry) for an hour then tried again. Still wobbly so I , (yes you guessed it) added more glue. You have probably figured out that by now I had melted the attachment points on the fuselage and struts to the pint that there was nothing but a soggy area left where there was once plastic. I ended up removing the mess from the fuselage and now I am figuring out how to proceed. I also sent an email to Roden asking if I could purchase replacement cabanes. If I don't get them in a few weeks I will go back to scratchbuilding them. My own Stupid Fault!
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4yNZFpH/IMG-20210302-083715892.jpg)
I have No IDEA where the Roden Nieuport 28 came from :D
(https://i.postimg.cc/rp7TmBQ6/IMG-20210227-222819005.jpg)
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I ended up painting the fuel and oil tank on the 28 blue and added the PE throttle, and instruments from PART then added the bracing cables. Can't be seen at all ;D
RAGIII
PS: The Peach Basket seat is Aviattic and the belts are made from paper and wire.
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Holding out on us, eh?
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;) ;)
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Holding out on us, eh?
Only a couple of days ;D Two all day sessions.
RAGIII
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;) ;)
(https://media.tenor.com/images/cfea71b69082e5b52124b7378b1f940e/tenor.gif)
:D :D
Thanks Bob!
RAGIII
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Oh dear Rick, you do seem to have a run of bad luck with your models, now it is hitting you on a SPAD. I do hope that you can find a solution to the strut and holes in fuselage problem as the RFC model is a gem in the making.
As for the N28 I suggest that it came from your frustration with the SPAD! Here's hoping that that one will not cause you problems.
Stephen.
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ooh nice a N28 - which pilot/scheme for the 94th?
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Oh dear Rick, you do seem to have a run of bad luck with your models, now it is hitting you on a SPAD. I do hope that you can find a solution to the strut and holes in fuselage problem as the RFC model is a gem in the making.
As for the N28 I suggest that it came from your frustration with the SPAD! Here's hoping that that one will not cause you problems.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. Not bad luck at all. Making Stupid mistakes is different :-[ I am not giving up on the RFC SPAD, it is just sidelined temporarily while I think about how to fix it! The Nieuport is challenging but I hope to get it to at least the same standard as the one I built several years ago.
RAGIII
ooh nice a N28 - which pilot/scheme for the 94th?
The Nieuport will be #1 of Major Huffer. Red, white, and blue bands on the cowling.
RAGIII
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Really ?
Another one !
Right one Rick !
Alexis
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Really ?
Another one !
Right one Rick !
Alexis
Yep another one ;D I had to do it 8)
RAGIII
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Sorry to hear about the cabanas. I hope Roden can deliver the sprue with them on. The planes look fantastic.
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Sorry to hear about the cabanas. I hope Roden can deliver the sprue with them on. The planes look fantastic.
Thanks for the comments on the Builds! As for the Cabanes I hope Roden sends them but if not I will figure out the length and scratch Build them. After all it was MY Fault :'(
RAGIII
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I have done a little rigging work. I still need to paint, add some turnbuckles, and tighten up the wires as much as possible. Not the best rigged SPAD ever but it is OK.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/j2JnRgnZ/IMG-20210303-222050074.jpg)
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Ok, Moving along from My previous post I have painted and tightened the rigging.( I also ended up replacing one of the double wrapped wires). For the record I used HSS for the lines and Evergreen strip for the wrapped lines. After painting and adding Smoke and Mirror Turnbuckles I am feeling much better about the overall look 8) I also started the filling and sanding on the Nieuport 28.
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/pXRnRVCF/IMG-20210306-185808570.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/ht3JLLBL/IMG-20210306-185746990.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/43m9q852/IMG-20210306-185733175.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kMxt0RQC/IMG-20210306-185811075.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/QCbCH5mW/IMG-20210306-185843767.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/K8Yk39dc/IMG-20210306-185911502.jpg)
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Happy face ! :)
Alexis
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Happy face ! :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
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Looks good to me Rick!
Guy
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Looks good to me Rick!
Guy
Thanks Guy. Like I said I am feeling better about it after finishing the process...on the wings that is 8)
RAGIII
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Lovely work on the French Spad 7 and really sorry about the British one. You are not the only modeller to do that! The 28 from left field is your signature move... lovely to see that start up! Regards, Marc.
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The Spad is very fine indeed Rick. I am pleased that you are going to pick up the RFC model later as that has the potential to also be a stunner when finished. A Nieu 28 is different and sounds as though that is going to be very colourful too.
Stephen.
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Oh, now this build thread get's confusing, with also a Nieuport added ???
The SPAD looks nice so far, I like red noses ;)
Roden was so kind to model this Nieuport also in 1/48. I have it in my stash, but the Gnome N rotary is not (I hope: yet) available from Small Stuff, so I wait for it and build other types (have enough in my stash) in meantime.
Does your edition include the beautiful posters for the wings?
Good luck!
Frank
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Lovely work on the French Spad 7 and really sorry about the British one. You are not the only modeller to do that! The 28 from left field is your signature move... lovely to see that start up! Regards, Marc.
Thanks Marc! I seem to be using that "Signature Move" Too often lately :(
RAGIII
The Spad is very fine indeed Rick. I am pleased that you are going to pick up the RFC model later as that has the potential to also be a stunner when finished. A Nieu 28 is different and sounds as though that is going to be very colourful too.
Stephen.
As always thanks Stephen! I do want to get back to the RFC bird ASAP. It was actually why I took out the SPAD kits!
RAGIII
Oh, now this build thread get's confusing, with also a Nieuport added ???
The SPAD looks nice so far, I like red noses ;)
Roden was so kind to model this Nieuport also in 1/48. I have it in my stash, but the Gnome N rotary is not (I hope: yet) available from Small Stuff, so I wait for it and build other types (have enough in my stash) in meantime.
Does your edition include the beautiful posters for the wings?
Good luck!
Frank
Thanks Frank. No posters on this one and I didn't really want to do another Rickenbacker bird. (I know there were a couple of others with the poster). This is the scheme I will be doing, supplied in the kit decals.
(https://i.postimg.cc/26fh2GnB/3-7.jpg)
RAGIII
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Lovely choice for the scheme Rick !
Alexis
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Lovely choice for the scheme Rick !
Alexis
Thanks Alexis. The profile makes the scheme look a bit dark on all of the colors. The actual colors will brighten it up a bit I think!
RAGIII
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I spent today working on the Nieuport. It doesn't look like much was done but I drilled @ 29 holes in the wings and fuselage. I also added a few PE parts, a piece of sprue on the upper fuselage, and sanded. The lower wing is now attached.
RAGIII
OOPS: Forgot the photos ;D
(https://i.postimg.cc/HWN0nn4r/IMG-20210308-191810010.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Yqm6W7bb/IMG-20210308-191818263.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/vmGfkVMN/IMG-20210308-191855539.jpg)
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@ 32 holes...
for rigging and control lines?
Cheers,
Hugh
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@ 32 holes...
for rigging and control lines?
Cheers,
Hugh
I re counted and edited My original post...twice.... 8) 29 is the actual count That being said I still have about 4 more to go on the gear and two on the fuselage ;D
RAGIII
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Ooopphh - Rigging...
Kent
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Ooopphh - Rigging...
Kent
For a change I actually found it to be fun drilling these holes. It means I will be able to use more conventional rigging methods on this one.... A real pleasure after so many SPADs :o
RAGIII
PS: All holes drilled without breaking a bit ;D
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Here is a question for Mike Norris, or anyone else. Looking forward in the build I see that two methods were used by Mike for the filled rigging lines. On the Nieuport 28 build Mike used thin styrene superglued in place. On the Ansaldo He used Baking Parchment Paper. would both methods work on the 28? which would be easier for someone not quite as talented? TIA,
RAGIII
PS: I do Not use Turnbuckles and tubing so the filler will be applied After the Mono Lines are tightened!
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Well, here's a crazy idea. First off, I must say I haven't even attempted it (yet), but if the two lines are close together, could you span the gap between them with Microscale Micro Krystal Klear? It must be applied after the lines are run and could be painted after drying. This would warrant a test before attempting on a model.
Just an idea.
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Well, here's a crazy idea. First off, I must say I haven't even attempted it (yet), but if the two lines are close together, could you span the gap between them with Microscale Micro Krystal Klear? It must be applied after the lines are run and could be painted after drying. This would warrant a test before attempting on a model.
Just an idea.
Not all that "Crazy" Ken. I have heard of Modelers doing this successfully in 1/48th scale. Not sure if it would transfer to 1/32nd but I will add it to My List 8) I wonder if Evergreen canopy glue would work the same?
RAGIII
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That just might work Rick . The spacing between the wires is relative to 48 scale . A thick base of the liquid of choice should work . Microscale crystal clear comes to mind .
Making nice progress with this one and that is a lot of holes !
Alexis
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Ooopphh - Rigging...
Kent
For a change I actually found it to be fun drilling these holes. It means I will be able to use more conventional rigging methods on this one.... A real pleasure after so many SPADs :o
RAGIII
PS: All holes drilled without breaking a bit ;D
I find that Rodens plastic drills very easily. I spend a happy half hour on Monday evening drilling all the rigging holes in the main planes of the Roden BE12. And that's a two bay biplane with doubled flying wires! All with one 1/64" HSS drill bit (I find HSS to be far more forgiving than Carbide).
Cheers,
Hugh
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I actually didn’t realize that your 2nd Spad turned into a Nieuport. How did that happen? Did it loose its skin like a snake or was it more like transformers do...? :)
However, both look great!
Andreas
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Looking forward to seeing more work on the 28 Rick.
;)
vB
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That just might work Rick . The spacing between the wires is relative to 48 scale . A thick base of the liquid of choice should work . Microscale crystal clear comes to mind .
Making nice progress with this one and that is a lot of holes !
Alexis
Thanks Alexis.
RAGIII
Ooopphh - Rigging...
Kent
For a change I actually found it to be fun drilling these holes. It means I will be able to use more conventional rigging methods on this one.... A real pleasure after so many SPADs :o
RAGIII
PS: All holes drilled without breaking a bit ;D
I find that Rodens plastic drills very easily. I spend a happy half hour on Monday evening drilling all the rigging holes in the main planes of the Roden BE12. And that's a two bay biplane with doubled flying wires! All with one 1/64" HSS drill bit (I find HSS to be far more forgiving than Carbide).
Cheers,
Hugh
Hugh, the Roden plastic does lend itself to easier drilling. I use cheap bits from EXCELL so it is a miracle when I don't break one ;D
RAGIII
I actually didn’t realize that your 2nd Spad turned into a Nieuport. How did that happen? Did it loose its skin like a snake or was it more like transformers do...? :)
However, both look great!
Andreas
No Strange goings on here. Just look at page 10 and all will be revealed 8)
RAGIII
Looking forward to seeing more work on the 28 Rick.
;)
vB
Thanks Bob! The SPAD is almost done. Just some touch up and the final clear coats left.
(https://i.postimg.cc/434PfTJw/IMG-20210310-185803922.jpg)
The Nieuport is primed and ready for paint. ( I will be using the Aviattic Cowling)
(https://i.postimg.cc/k5wSf6Pv/IMG-20210310-185716550.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/3RRv68K5/IMG-20210310-185724185.jpg)
RAGIII
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The SPA 124 Lafayette bird is now finished. Touch up and final weathering have been done. I will begin painting the Nieuport later today or tomorrow!
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/d3HV9Bc8/IMG-20210312-155607847.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/43640ZT4/IMG-20210312-155705805.jpg)
Final Photos in Completed Models:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11996.0
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Here is a question for Mike Norris, or anyone else. Looking forward in the build I see that two methods were used by Mike for the filled rigging lines. On the Nieuport 28 build Mike used thin styrene superglued in place. On the Ansaldo He used Baking Parchment Paper. would both methods work on the 28? which would be easier for someone not quite as talented? TIA,
RAGIII
PS: I do Not use Turnbuckles and tubing so the filler will be applied After the Mono Lines are tightened!
Hi Rich,
I did try using decal for the infill and I think it was Lance who did this successfully.
However I found it didn't work for me.
As for styrene infill strip versus baking parchment paper?
I used these methods on the two models after the rigging with turnbuckles had been fitted and tightened.
The stryrene strip method was OK although thin cut strips of sytrene can tend to curl, which makes aligning them between the lines a bit tricky.
They need to be fitted between the two lines and aligned whilst applying thin CA adhesive along the edges of the strips, although thin CA adhesive flows nicely along the lines.
However they do make for a stronger pair of lines. Painting them is also not really a problem.
Using baking parchment paper is I think easier as the strip are cut to twice the width of the pair of lines.
PVA adhesive is then applied along the lines and the paper rested on top.
More PVA is applied by brush brushing the paper around the lines.
Once the adhesive has fully dried and set you can apply more adhesive to strengthen the bond.
The only disadvantage is that unlike the styrene strips, which sit between the two lines (as it was in reality) the paper wraps around and covers the lines.
Also one side will be slightly sunken as the adhesive draws it up onto the underside of the opposite side.
However, this depression can be negated by applying more adhesive to that side or infilling with the paint used.
As I proved the styrene will work for the Nieuport 28 twin wires, but in all honesty, if I did another 28 I think I'd go for the paper method.
Overall it's easier and quicker,
Mike
PS: Yes the Special Hobby kits are made of a softer styrene that most kits which is why it's easier to drill.
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Here is a question for Mike Norris, or anyone else. Looking forward in the build I see that two methods were used by Mike for the filled rigging lines. On the Nieuport 28 build Mike used thin styrene superglued in place. On the Ansaldo He used Baking Parchment Paper. would both methods work on the 28? which would be easier for someone not quite as talented? TIA,
RAGIII
PS: I do Not use Turnbuckles and tubing so the filler will be applied After the Mono Lines are tightened!
Hi Rich,
I did try using decal for the infill and I think it was Lance who did this successfully.
However I found it didn't work for me.
As for styrene infill strip versus baking parchment paper?
I used these methods on the two models after the rigging with turnbuckles had been fitted and tightened.
The stryrene strip method was OK although thin cut strips of sytrene can tend to curl, which makes aligning them between the lines a bit tricky.
They need to be fitted between the two lines and aligned whilst applying thin CA adhesive along the edges of the strips, although thin CA adhesive flows nicely along the lines.
However they do make for a stronger pair of lines. Painting them is also not really a problem.
Using baking parchment paper is I think easier as the strip are cut to twice the width of the pair of lines.
PVA adhesive is then applied along the lines and the paper rested on top.
More PVA is applied by brush brushing the paper around the lines.
Once the adhesive has fully dried and set you can apply more adhesive to strengthen the bond.
The only disadvantage is that unlike the styrene strips, which sit between the two lines (as it was in reality) the paper wraps around and covers the lines.
Also one side will be slightly sunken as the adhesive draws it up onto the underside of the opposite side.
However, this depression can be negated by applying more adhesive to that side or infilling with the paint used.
As I proved the styrene will work for the Nieuport 28 twin wires, but in all honesty, if I did another 28 I think I'd go for the paper method.
Overall it's easier and quicker,
Mike
PS: Yes the Special Hobby kits are made of a softer styrene that most kits which is why it's easier to drill.
Mike, Thanks for the very detailed answer. I greatly appreciate your input and I am sure others will also! Still deciding which way to go but the paper is sounding good 8)
RAGIII
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Rick (and Mike)
I did use the decal infill on the Roden Nieuport 28. That was some time ago however it worked very well and is still looking as good today as the day it was done . I believe the reason it works is that I used surplus Aviattic Lozenge decal stock. As we all know it is much thicker/stronger then regular decal material and definitely more "robust" and thus appears more suited to this application. It also "curls" really well when given a shot of decal softener. The Photo Bucket photos on the Build Log here are still useable and the technique illustrated. I wouldn't hesitate to use this method again.
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=3716.105
Cheers,
Lance
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Rick (and Mike)
I did use the decal infill on the Roden Nieuport 28. That was some time ago however it worked very well and is still looking as good today as the day it was done . I believe the reason it works is that I used surplus Aviattic Lozenge decal stock. As we all know it is much thicker/stronger then regular decal material and definitely more "robust" and thus appears more suited to this application. It also "curls" really well when given a shot of decal softener. The Photo Bucket photos on the Build Log here are still useable and the technique illustrated. I wouldn't hesitate to use this method again.
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=3716.105
Cheers,
Lance
Thanks for posting the link Lance. Was this the regular "Clear Paper" Lozenge or white backed?
RAGIII
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I'm not 100% certain Rick but I think the white background version. I've never noticed any difference in consistency between the white and clear versions.
Cheers,
Lance
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I'm not 100% certain Rick but I think the white background version. I've never noticed any difference in consistency between the white and clear versions.
Cheers,
Lance
Thanks again Lance. I have never had any of the white backed Aviattic decals so I wasn't sure if there would be a difference 8)
RAGIII
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Hi Rich, Don't forget 'Aviattic' have plain coloured white back and clear decal - maybe try white back coloured as any overlap won't show as darker than the rest. Alcso you may not need to paint the decal if you choose the correct colour,
Mike
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Hi Rich, Don't forget 'Aviattic' have plain coloured white back and clear decal - maybe try white back coloured as any overlap won't show as darker than the rest. Alcso you may not need to paint the decal if you choose the correct colour,
Mike
Thanks for the reminder Mike. I haven't decided on the method yet so providing I actually get to that step we shall see what I choose ::)
RAGIII
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The Nieuport is primed and ready for paint.
Oh Rick, I will watch this!
Please mention the color shades/mixes you are using, because I have not painted this french schemes yet and need some input for future projects.
Thanks and have fun!
Frank
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The Nieuport is primed and ready for paint.
Oh Rick, I will watch this!
Please mention the color shades/mixes you are using, because I have not painted this french schemes yet and need some input for future projects.
Thanks and have fun!
Frank
OOPS ;D More later Frank!
RAGIII
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So now to explain the OOPS comment. I had plenty of CDL left over from the SPAD soooo I just added a bit of white, IJN grey, and then some more Desert yellow to the mix. I promise to do better on the 5 color uppers. I have sprayed the undersides with the mix then applied some of Bobs strippers to the ribs and did a Tamiya smoke spray on the edges. After that was done I have applied some Windsor Newton Acryl Oils along the spars near the fuselage. Later today I will go back over all of this with a light thinned coat of the original color. That should tone it all down and help blend it all...at least I hope!
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/mr3zHJVq/IMG-20210312-182811311.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/L4QFr6gB/IMG-20210314-132803933.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/brrcs4Wt/IMG-20210314-134607694.jpg)
PS: Frank if you don't mind working with Vallejo Game Color Bone white is a pretty close match 8)
and after the filter of Ecru was applied
(https://i.postimg.cc/SKGx8FTT/IMG-20210314-145859801.jpg)
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Paid off very well Rick ! 8)
Alexis
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Got to agree with Alexis Rick - it looks the part underneath.
Stephen.
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Paid off very well Rick ! 8)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis. I always appreciate your comments!
RAGIII
Got to agree with Alexis Rick - it looks the part underneath.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. It will get a bit more later after the roundels are applied. Oils will be used to further blend it all together.
RAGIII
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I had a productive day yesterday... until My Compressor threw a bearing , blew it's gasket, or whatever happened. >:( I did manage to apply 4 out of the 5 colors to the upper surfaces before that happened. Other than some touch up and tweaking, and of course the black, I am satisfied with the results. ( The most obvious touch up needed is on the horizontal tail) I have also "Tried" to keep better track of My Mixes, with mixed results :o
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/VvvMWPVW/IMG-20210315-203257140.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/SRP9Zt0F/IMG-20210315-203305567.jpg)
Now for the mix info:
The beige Mix: It started at about 3 to 1 of the Desert Tan and Bone white. From there I might have changed it a bit but should be in the ballpark.
(https://i.postimg.cc/xdZsWQwq/IMG-20210316-150057475.jpg)
Next the Light Green: Again the starting point was about 3 to 1 of The Pale Green to the Green Grey. I think I added a drop or two of white.
(https://i.postimg.cc/MThFjw5g/IMG-20210316-144600217.jpg)
Next up was the Dark Green: About 2 to 1 US Dark Green to Russian Green. A few drops of white.
(https://i.postimg.cc/4yVF60Fy/IMG-20210316-144526555.jpg)
Finally the Chestnut Brown: I started with about a 3 to one ratio of brown to red. It wasn't enough red so I kind of lost track but think I ended up with more red than brown. I also think I added a couple of drops of white ::)
(https://i.postimg.cc/WpkKcDbV/IMG-20210316-144502897.jpg)
What I learned is that I really can't keep very good track of MY Mixtures. I start with good intentions but then I keep adding stuff untill I like it. So if nothing else one can see the colors I started with and go from there on your own 8)
PS: I forgot to mention that for the fabric areas I added a squirt of Metal Medium ::)
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I do like your theory of mixes Rick - just like mine: make it up as you go along and hope for the best.....
In any event the camouflage looks good from here.
Stephen.
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I do like your theory of mixes Rick - just like mine: make it up as you go along and hope for the best.....
In any event the camouflage looks good from here.
Stephen.
Thanks for the comment Stephen. I just ordered a New Compressor. It should be here by Tuesday. In the meantime I will work on things that don't need airbrushing like Vickers and struts 8)
RAGIII
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Great progress Rick! What did you order for a new compressor??
Cheers,
Gary
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Great progress Rick! What did you order for a new compressor??
Cheers,
Gary
Thanks Gary! This is the one I ordered. $96.00 ( US) including tax, free shipping:
(https://i.postimg.cc/tTqD8TT3/e4fb1b53-4e56-4063-b8f7-d2b19027947b-1-1f73d490ec238df3f51ac03eea410c19.jpg)
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I just purchased one of them... My old one is still going fine though, so haven't had a chance to fire it up yet.
Cheers.
Hugh
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I just purchased one of them... My old one is still going fine though, so haven't had a chance to fire it up yet.
Cheers.
Hugh
I hope to be able to give you a report Tuesday night or Wednesday Morning ;D
RAGIII
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That's not a bad price for the compressor Rick , how many pounds is the tank ? Mixing paint is pretty much the same for me . I really don't keep track and just go with what pleases me the most . I see that you mix Model Air with the model colour ...I haven't tried that yet , how much thinning does that need and do you use a flow improver ? I'm sure I will have more questions in the future but for now ...
Alexis
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That's not a bad price for the compressor Rick , how many pounds is the tank ? Mixing paint is pretty much the same for me . I really don't keep track and just go with what pleases me the most . I see that you mix Model Air with the model colour ...I haven't tried that yet , how much thinning does that need and do you use a flow improver ? I'm sure I will have more questions in the future but for now ...
Alexis
Alexis, The tank is 3 L which is 3L more than what I was using ;D As for mixing and thinning I just go with the "Old" theory of the consistency of Milk. I use Vallejo Airbrush thinner and a drop of retarder most of the time.
RAGIII
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Sorry about the compressor Rick.
But at least you’ll get a lot of use out of the new one!
Guy
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Nice progress on the Nieuport, Rick. I like where its going.
Looks like a compact compressor. Mine is a big monster - used for many other things besides painting.
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Sorry about the compressor Rick.
But at least you’ll get a lot of use out of the new one!
Guy
I can only hope it lasts as long as My cheap Badger version without tank did..about 10 years or so ;D
RAGIII
Nice progress on the Nieuport, Rick. I like where its going.
Looks like a compact compressor. Mine is a big monster - used for many other things besides painting.
Thanks Ken. As for the compressor all I use it for is the Airbrush. No Power tools for this guy ::)
RAGIII
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You keep amazing me with your beautiful builds and informative build logs Rick.
Hats of!
Willem
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You keep amazing me with your beautiful builds and informative build logs Rick.
Hats of!
Willem
Thanks Willem. I appreciate the comment!
RAGIII
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I really hope for you Rick, that the new beast is not very loud.
I love my Werther silent air (rebranded available under many labels) because it has a sound like a refrigerator. The compressor on top of the tanks looks alse like a fridge from the back side ;) Airbrush work on Sunday evening is no problem.
Cheers,
Frank
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The 28 is one of my favorites and one of the first 1/32nd scale kits I built when I got into the !/32nd side of the WWI house. Your colors look good to me Rick, and like you, and the others, I too mix as I go until it looks good and go for it. Once you get your compressor set up you will be knocking this out in no time. Looking forward to seeing it progress Rick. I have one in the stash, awaiting the opportune time.
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I really hope for you Rick, that the new beast is not very loud.
I love my Werther silent air (rebranded available under many labels) because it has a sound like a refrigerator. The compressor on top of the tanks looks alse like a fridge from the back side ;) Airbrush work on Sunday evening is no problem.
Cheers,
Frank
The compressor I was using had no holding tank at all so ran all the time and was noisy. If the tank works I should at least have a couple of minutes of quiet spraying ;D
RAGIII
The 28 is one of my favorites and one of the first 1/32nd scale kits I built when I got into the !/32nd side of the WWI house. Your colors look good to me Rick, and like you, and the others, I too mix as I go until it looks good and go for it. Once you get your compressor set up you will be knocking this out in no time. Looking forward to seeing it progress Rick. I have one in the stash, awaiting the opportune time.
I think the kit is one of Rodens best! At least now I know I am not alone in My poor Mixing habits 8)
RAGIII
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One more thing about mixes that I "Just" found out about. This site allows one to enter the product number from one brand and match it to another. Handy if one wants to take the WNW Tamiya call outs and convert to another brand. I am sure many of you were already aware of this site but thought I would share it for those that were not familiar.
RAGIII
https://www.modelshade.com/
PS: I found they don't always match exactly but do get one in the ballpark!
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You build and update faster than I can read the updates ;D nice progress.
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You build and update faster than I can read the updates ;D nice progress.
Thanks for the comment! There are others working faster than Me ::) That being said I used My time while waiting on the New Compressor to modify and paint a couple of Gaspatch Vickers. I also did a minimal amount of detailing on the engine. ( It won't be seen once the cowling is on ;D
RAGIII
(https://i.postimg.cc/9MJrK5tD/IMG-20210319-155128113.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Fzz7QWDD/IMG-20210319-155139750.jpg)
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Very nice colors Rick, I want one!
Kent
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Very nice colors Rick, I want one!
Kent
Thanks Kent. IMHO this is probably Rodens best 1/32nd scale kit! About the colors I saw a post on FB today about a Polish, I think, company doing ALL of the French Colors from WW1 through the 30's. I am looking into availability here in the States. I will let all know what I find out.
RAGIII
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Alexis
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;)
Alexis
Thanks for dropping in and the Smile Alexis!
RAGIII
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Movig along nicely ! May have to try some Vallejo paints.
Ed
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The Spad looks really good Rick. Those Gaspatch accessories are very good value for money and some of the few AM parts that I use.
Stephen.
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Such nice progress there, Rick! And as you say, keep mixing colours til it hits the version of what appeals to you! Great to get a new compressor... your new toy looks great... keep looking at my 15+ year monster and expecting the worst... Regards, Marc.
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Movig along nicely ! May have to try some Vallejo paints.
Ed
Thanks Amigo. As for the Vallejo paints one sees Mixed reviews. It seems that Many hate airbrushing them and others Love them. I am in the middle. I get decent results but tend to use Tamiya if I know I will need to mask over the colors 8)
RAGIII
The Spad looks really good Rick. Those Gaspatch accessories are very good value for money and some of the few AM parts that I use.
Stephen.
As always thanks for commenting Stephen. The Gaspatch guns are indeed terrific accessories!
RAGIII
Such nice progress there, Rick! And as you say, keep mixing colours til it hits the version of what appeals to you! Great to get a new compressor... your new toy looks great... keep looking at my 15+ year monster and expecting the worst... Regards, Marc.
Thanks Marc. I only hope that when it arrives Tuesday it is all that I expect! I spent an hour or so cleaning the airbrush today in anticipation ;D
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The compressor arrived today so I hope to get some painting done ;D
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I guess it is glowing already ;D ;D
Have fun,
Frank
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I guess it is glowing already ;D ;D
Have fun,
Frank
I have already painted the black I couldn't do when the old one went Tango Uniform. Just for the record the Holding Tank empties quickly so it runs a lot. The good news is it is FAR and Away quieter than My old compressor!
RAGIII
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So, I loved working with the New compressor. I painted the black, tweaked the scheme, and have progressed to adding markings. Roundels are Super Scale, all others are from the kit. I found the kit decals really easy to work with on this one. Only one small touch up needed on the upper surface #1.
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vB 8)
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A compressor is just a tool Rick, but with you behind the controls, it turns into some magical gadget!
Willem
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Looks good with the markings in place Rick and the cam turned out perfekt !
Alexis
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vB 8)
Thanks Bob!
RAGIII
A compressor is just a tool Rick, but with you behind the controls, it turns into some magical gadget!
Willem
Thanks, Very kind comment!
RAGIII
Looks good with the markings in place Rick and the cam turned out perfekt !
Alexis
Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
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That is looking quite amazing and just spot on, Rick! Very neat and precise modelling! Regards, Marc.
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That is looking quite amazing and just spot on, Rick! Very neat and precise modelling! Regards, Marc.
As always thanks Marc! I plan to do some weathering on this one tomorrow...then the mounting of the wings :-\ I think!
RAGIII
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Nice to hear that Roden decals worked for a change. I have had very few good experiences with them.
Looking good.
Cheers,
Hugh
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Nice to hear that Roden decals worked for a change. I have had very few good experiences with them.
Looking good.
Cheers,
Hugh
The Roden decals can be problematic for sure. IN this case they worked great!
RAGIII
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Looks good with the markings on it. Nice to hear that Roden decals CAN work :)
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Nice Rick,
What lovely colours to paint!
Guy
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Looks good with the markings on it. Nice to hear that Roden decals CAN work :)
Thanks for commenting. Roden decals are challenging to say the least. Sometimes they crack and tear, others they are fine. Most of the time a clear sealant over the whole sheet helps. In this case I didn't seal them on the sheet, just hot water then applied 8)
RAGIII
Nice Rick,
What lovely colours to paint!
Guy
Thanks Guy. I do like the French colors. The light green is perhaps too light but it works ::)
RAGIII
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So Other than working on the Nieuport 24bis I also did some work on this one. I used oils to do some very subtle weathering on the upper surfaces. Burn Umber, burnt sienna, raw sienna, and Mars brown. ( a touch of black mixed in in some places).
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PS: Maybe too suntle. I can see the effects in person but it is hard to see in My Lousy Photos :(
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I can see spots of weathering here and there. Subtle. It just flew through a rain storm.
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Your weathering is subtle , perfekt !
Sealing coat will darken it up a bit so I think you hit the right balance and it does take away from the awesome camo !
Alexis
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I can see spots of weathering here and there. Subtle. It just flew through a rain storm.
Thanks Ken. I will probably do a bit more once it is all together. ::)
RAGIII
Your weathering is subtle , perfekt !
Sealing coat will darken it up a bit so I think you hit the right balance and it does take away from the awesome camo !
Alexis
Thanks Alexis. I will look at it once the clear coates are applied and see if it needs more work!
RAGIII
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It’s a beauty, Rick. I love the Nieuport 28. She’s still on my (extensive) to-do list...
And you got the camo beautifully!
Andreas
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It’s a beauty, Rick. I love the Nieuport 28. She’s still on my (extensive) to-do list...
And you got the camo beautifully!
Andreas
Thanks for dropping in and the comment Andreas!
RAGIII
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Looking really good Rick - I do like the subtle weathering.... I wouldn't like to see those lovely colours changed! Regards, Marc.
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Looking really good Rick - I do like the subtle weathering.... I wouldn't like to see those lovely colours changed! Regards, Marc.
Thanks Marc! I haven't done a lot to this one but did make a little progress. I attached the gear legs, Twice, as the first time I noticed a day later they were backwards >:( I then masked and painted the fin and rudder as well as the bands on the cowling. The Tamiya tape for curves worked great as far as the bands go but lifted a crap load of paint when removed. So I will need to do a Lot of touch up. By th way the blue is very close to the roundel color in spite of how dark it looks in the photo!
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PS: Had just a couple of small spots lifted I would have painted them aluminum and called it weathering ::)
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Looking good Rick: Making the paint lift look like aluminum is a great idea. Touch ups never look as good as the original, unless they are air brushed. This is one of my favorite aircraft of WWI, just has great lines and looks like a fighter. Your paint work is outstanding as well. Looking to see how you do the rigging.
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Looking good Rick: Making the paint lift look like aluminum is a great idea. Touch ups never look as good as the original, unless they are air brushed. This is one of my favorite aircraft of WWI, just has great lines and looks like a fighter. Your paint work is outstanding as well. Looking to see how you do the rigging.
Thanks Mark! I May use some of the Smaller lifted areas as weathering but the one on the white that is about 1/4 of the circumference of the cowling will need to be airbrushed. This of course opens the possibility of lifting some of the blue opening a never ending Cycle ::)
RAGIII
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You know , my legs look nicer ! ;)
Sucks that you had some paint lift but I know once the repairs are made one will never be able to tell :)
Alexis
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You know , my legs look nicer ! ;)
Sucks that you had some paint lift but I know once the repairs are made one will never be able to tell :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis! Today I attached the upper wing. First I glued it to the cabanes then inserted the Interplane struts. This was actually a seemles assembly. No issues fitting any of the struts at all. I also touched up the cowling, attached the engine, then glued the cowling and prop in place.
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Very nice colors Rick, I want one!
Kent
Thanks Kent. IMHO this is probably Rodens best 1/32nd scale kit! About the colors I saw a post on FB today about a Polish, I think, company doing ALL of the French Colors from WW1 through the 30's. I am looking into availability here in the States. I will let all know what I find out.
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Hi RAGIII
Can you post a link to the post on facebook about the colours?
cheers
Andrew
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This looks great, Rick. I may just have to pick one of these up. All of your builds are very inspiring.
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Very nice colors Rick, I want one!
Kent
Thanks Kent. IMHO this is probably Rodens best 1/32nd scale kit! About the colors I saw a post on FB today about a Polish, I think, company doing ALL of the French Colors from WW1 through the 30's. I am looking into availability here in the States. I will let all know what I find out.
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Hi RAGIII
Can you post a link to the post on facebook about the colours?
cheers
Andrew
I will see if I can find the link again. I did have a PM conversation with the owner and will download the photos of the products. I was not encouraged to go much further as He said that No Paypal or credit cards could be used. Only depositing directly to his account which I have No Clue how to accomplish. Also No info was provided on price.
RAGIII
This looks great, Rick. I may just have to pick one of these up. All of your builds are very inspiring.
Thanks Ken, Greatly appreciated! Get one. I am sure your build would be Spectacular!!
RAGIII
PS: I forgot to mention / answer something Mark had said earlier. The "Rigging" will be more conventional on this one. 2 lb. test Trout fishing line. The "Filled" sections will be ......?
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Have a chance to check back in, more great progress ! It reminds me to get more GP guns for mine when I can get to it.
Ed
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Have a chance to check back in, more great progress ! It reminds me to get more GP guns for mine when I can get to it.
Ed
Thanks Amigo, Always great to hear from you!
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A small update. Most of the rigging wires are now installed and tightened. Nearing the point where I decide on the filling ::)
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Looking good Rick ;)
Alexis
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Looks marvelous Rick! I’m looking forward to seeing how you end up “filling the gap.”
Best regards,
Bob
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Looking good Rick ;)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis!
RAGIII
Looks marvelous Rick! I’m looking forward to seeing how you end up “filling the gap.”
Best regards,
Bob
Thanks Bob! I am setting this one asside for a few days to Ponder on what to do ???
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Looks great Rick.
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Have not dropped by for a couple of days Rick, and this has turned from a legless monoplane to a fully rigged biplane! It looks simply super! The colours are very striking indeed. I was reassured to read that you had the u/c legs on back to front first time around as it means that I am not the only one to manage to make those kinds of mistakes....
Best of luck with a solution to the filling problem - in my experience turning a problem over in your mind for a period is usually the best way to get an answer - usually from a sideways direction.
Stephen.
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Quite lovely Rick! It looks quite spectacular! The rigging filling is just the cherry on the cake! Regards, Marc.
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That Nieuport is a nice invitation to add this type to the own collection - so beautiful!
Regarding the lifted paint on the cowling: what primer have you used? (there seems to be naked polystyrene, so the primer has no tack to it?)
Cheers,
Frank
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Looks great Rick.
Thanks for the Comment!
RAGIII
Have not dropped by for a couple of days Rick, and this has turned from a legless monoplane to a fully rigged biplane! It looks simply super! The colours are very striking indeed. I was reassured to read that you had the u/c legs on back to front first time around as it means that I am not the only one to manage to make those kinds of mistakes....
Best of luck with a solution to the filling problem - in my experience turning a problem over in your mind for a period is usually the best way to get an answer - usually from a sideways direction.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen. Still thinking about the filled wires !
RAGIII
Quite lovely Rick! It looks quite spectacular! The rigging filling is just the cherry on the cake! Regards, Marc.
Thanks Marc. We shall see how the "Filling" goes ???
RAGIII
That Nieuport is a nice invitation to add this type to the own collection - so beautiful!
Regarding the lifted paint on the cowling: what primer have you used? (there seems to be naked polystyrene, so the primer has no tack to it?)
Cheers,
Frank
Thanks Frank. In My opinion one of the Most Graceful of WW1 Fighters! As for the primer I just used Tamiya Paint. It was a resin Cowling and I have to admit I didn't wash it down prior to painting. That and a combination of tightly wound Tamiya Tape for Curves and Valejo colors caused the lifting. I Like Vallejo but usually don't use it where it needs to be masked ::)
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All of the rigging is installed and painted. And yes, I am still considering the method of filling the double wires 8)
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Excellent job on the rigging Rick . I think you should do the wrapping on the double wires . It really adds to the overall effect . But if you choose not to , still looks cool :)
Alexis
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Excellent job on the rigging Rick . I think you should do the wrapping on the double wires . It really adds to the overall effect . But if you choose not to , still looks cool :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis. I just realized I forgot the rudder control lines so will do those later today. I will fill the double lines....eventually ;D
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Excellent work as always, Rick.
Cheers,
Gary
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Excellent work as always, Rick.
Cheers,
Gary
Thanks Gary!
RAGIII
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and so it begins: Five hours to do a simple job! I used Aviattic Lozenge decals. I really needed a "Hotter" setting solution to get the strips to wrap easily around the wires. If I do another filled wire bird I will use Aviattic Wood Grain and Make Sure I have some Solvaset on Hand. Tomorrow I tackle the two rear sets ::)
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PS: I obviously will need to paint the wood and steel once all is done 8)
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That 5 hours paid off!!
Steve
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I would have had to hold my breath on applying those ...would have to hold it afterwards too ! Turned out really well so far Rick .
PS , Tamiya thinner X-20A works like a treat for decal sol on Aviattic's decals ;) little goes along way ....
Alexis
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That 5 hours paid off!!
Steve
Thanks Steve, I hope you are right 8) I wish I had been smart enough not to attach and secure the single wires in the rear. It is going to make it difficult to reach the other two sets that need to be wrapped :-[
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I would have had to hold my breath on applying those ...would have to hold it afterwards too ! Turned out really well so far Rick .
PS , Tamiya thinner X-20A works like a treat for decal sol on Aviattic's decals ;) little goes along way ....
Alexis
Thanks Alexis! I have some X20A on hand so I will give it a try later today!
RAGIII
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You keep amazing me Rick!
As Alexis said, I wouldn't even dare to breath while applying those lozenge decals.
They are even breathtaking looking at them!
Willem
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You keep amazing me Rick!
As Alexis said, I wouldn't even dare to breath while applying those lozenge decals.
They are even breathtaking looking at them!
Willem
I did hold My Breath a LOT! I also used 4 x 12 ounce cans of courage/ Nerve enhancer ::)
RAGIII
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liquid courage helps us in more ways than one ;)
Alexis
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That is amazing Rick - to wrap those double wires may have taken a lot of time but it was worth it. I have to admit that I would not have done so and defied anyone to notice!
Stephen.
PS where do you buy your cans of courage from? I could do with a supply.
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Nice job Rick!
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Wow, great job on these damned double wires. Fingers crossed for the next stage.
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That is amazing Rick - to wrap those double wires may have taken a lot of time but it was worth it. I have to admit that I would not have done so and defied anyone to notice!
Stephen.
PS where do you buy your cans of courage from? I could do with a supply.
Thanks Stephen. The Liquid courage is readily available at Most Grocery stores 8)
RAGIII
Nice job Rick!
Thanks for the comment!
RAGIII
Wow, great job on these damned double wires. Fingers crossed for the next stage.
Thanks Przemo! I also want to send a HUGE THANK YOU to Alexis! The Tamiya X20 was the Miracle solution I needed. what took me hours of soaking and prodding yesterday was done in about 20 minutes total today! There is so much we can learn from each other here!
RAGIII
PS: Thanks also to Lance for the decal idea!
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Very convincing results on the double wires Rick :) I will also use Tamiya thin glue , but this can ruin your work very quickly if too much is applied and I have had that happen before ::)
Those are going to look really nice once painted up which I'm looking forward to seeing :)
Alexis
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Great progress on a dicey task, Rick. And thanks to Alexis and yourself for putting this in your build thread.
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Very convincing results on the double wires Rick :) I will also use Tamiya thin glue , but this can ruin your work very quickly if too much is applied and I have had that happen before ::)
Those are going to look really nice once painted up which I'm looking forward to seeing :)
Alexis
Thanks Alexis! I didn't mention that on the first Day I was using Tamiya Extra Thin very sparingly to help with the process. Just a very small amount in areas that were giving Me problems. For the most part I was using the Tamiya setting solution. NOT paying attention I mixed up the Cement with the Setting solution. Luckily I was able to remove the Gooey Mess without any damage to the wires ::) That is one reason I am so happy that your tip on the X20A worked so well on day two! I did not have to open the Tamiya Glue bottle 8)
RAGIII
Great progress on a dicey task, Rick. And thanks to Alexis and yourself for putting this in your build thread.
Thanks Ken. I am pretty sure that this Method has worked.... for Me at Least! Like I said Alexis was a life saver with the X20A tip!
RAGIII
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Hi Rick ,
I have tried Tamiya's decal setting system with mixed results , find that they really don't work all that well even on their own decals . My go too is Microscale's Super Sol and Sol . If those don't work then I which switch and use the Tamiya thinner or their liquid glue .
Alexis
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Superb work as always Rick, I think your high standard has even gone up a notch since I went on leave last Summer. That rigging is amazing!
Richie
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Superb work as always Rick, I think your high standard has even gone up a notch since I went on leave last Summer. That rigging is amazing!
Richie
Thanks Richie. I will post a couple of photos later of the latest work on this one.
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Here are the promised photos. I have to admit there are a few bumps and lumps but I am satisfied with My first use of this technique. If I do it again I will do better 8)
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Hello, Rick -
Your Roden N.28 looks great to me - and regarding the wires I don't suppose the real ones were as neat as we would like to think.
Regards
Dave
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No lumps or bumps are apparent to me Rick, all I can see is a very fine model of a beautiful little biplane. I always admire your French camouflage painting. If the next one is going to be even better I can't wait to see it!
Richie
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I agree with Dave: sometimes we try to make perfect models to represent far from perfect subjects whereas a little imperfection here and there would probably be more representative of the real thing. I would be very happy with that.
Stephen.
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That is a really nice outcome! It is soooo beautiful :-*
I need also this Nieuport type in my collection.
Cheers,
Frank
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I think you did real great job on this. If it's the painting, the rigging or something else, it all looks real nice to me.
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Hi Rick your Ni28 is a beauty!
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Rick , those double covered wires turned out fantastic ..well done on a awesome build ! :)
Alexis
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Rick , those double covered wires turned out fantastic ..well done on a awesome build ! :)
Alexis
Gotta agree with Alexis on the double wires and the build Amigo.
Ed
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You’ve got some patience Rick!
Looks great!
Guy
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Thanks to all for the comments! Frank Roden has an exact copy of this kit in 1/48th so you have No Excuse not to do one someday 8) I have finished up the wires by adding some binding tapes with WNW rib tape decals. I also did the final weathering and clear coats. This will be the last update before completed models. All that is left to do is add the windscreen.
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Well that looks fantastic Rick, great figure to go with it too. You should be very pleased with how it has turned out.
Richie
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This nice figure is another enhancement of the final result!
Frank Roden has an exact copy of this kit in 1/48th so you have No Excuse not to do one someday 8)
Rick, that kit is in my stash! I have only the excuse, that I hope for a Gnome-N made by Small Stuff, which is not available now. I have enough kits with available engine types, so I'm really busy during waiting ;D
Cheers,
Frank
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Well that looks fantastic Rick, great figure to go with it too. You should be very pleased with how it has turned out.
Richie
Thanks Richie. The figure is My Go to for USAS planes. I don't really do Vignettes or Dioramas often, just use them for photos ;D
RAGIII
This nice figure is another enhancement of the final result!
Frank Roden has an exact copy of this kit in 1/48th so you have No Excuse not to do one someday 8)
Rick, that kit is in my stash! I have only the excuse, that I hope for a Gnome-N made by Small Stuff, which is not available now. I have enough kits with available engine types, so I'm really busy during waiting ;D
Cheers,
Frank
Don't wait forever for that Engine Frank! The Roden one really isn't bad and the cowling covers a lot :o
RAGIII
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The final photos are now up in completed Models:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=12119.0
Thanks for all of the Support!
RAGIIIU
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Brilliant!
Superb N.28 model you have created there, Rick
Regards
Dave
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I agree with Dave - fantastic model. I'm off to look at the other photos.
Stephen.
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Looks dag nab good Rick: When I saw the black and white photo on FB I thought it was an actual reference photo. Very nice. The colors are vibrant, well excecuted and definitely highlight this aircraft. The decals on the wires is a nice touch as well. One of my favorites. Aurora made a Nie.28 in "1/48" as well, not a bad kit, just needs a bit of tweaking in the cowl area.
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Brilliant!
Superb N.28 model you have created there, Rick
Regards
Dave
THanks Dave! Greatly appreciated!
RAGIII
I agree with Dave - fantastic model. I'm off to look at the other photos.
Stephen.
Thanks Stephen, I always appreciate your encouragement !
RAGIII
Looks dag nab good Rick: When I saw the black and white photo on FB I thought it was an actual reference photo. Very nice. The colors are vibrant, well excecuted and definitely highlight this aircraft. The decals on the wires is a nice touch as well. One of my favorites. Aurora made a Nie.28 in "1/48" as well, not a bad kit, just needs a bit of tweaking in the cowl area.
Thanks Mark. That Old Aurora kit was one of their best, IMHO
RAGIII