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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: lcarroll on January 19, 2021, 09:48:11 AM
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Having just completed Lothar von Richthofen's 454/17 I've started on his famous brother's final completely red Triplane, 425/17, using the Roden Kit.
(https://i.imgur.com/r0arUge.jpg)
I have a large number of After Market items that can be added to the model including a seat cushion from a Barracuda set, Eduard PE components, Master brass gun components, HGW Seat Belts and the Aviattic corrected engine cowling.
(https://i.imgur.com/gzROp61.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/99pe27S.jpg)
References will be the same ones used for the previous Build:
(https://i.imgur.com/tbY5Ywy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nNXyWeO.jpg)
...... and this one just added to the pile!
(https://i.imgur.com/5JlOx80.jpg)
I have a small amount started; wood graining for the interior, seat and "baffle" started, and the CDL on the inside cockpit area. I've done this Kit before and am looking forward to the second round.
(https://i.imgur.com/Kv13WMv.jpg)
Cheers,
Lance
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You are well armed with ref's and a nice collection of goodies , following along :)
Alexis
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You have some nice goodies for this one. Have fun.
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I am pleased to see you tackling another Roden DR1. Your work so far looks awesome as always. The aftermarket will really enhance the kit, especially the cowling.
RAGIII
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A really nice start on a great kit, Lance! With those aftermarket bits your build will be just that bit easier than mine! Are you doing the final iteration of the scheme like mine? I will definitely be following along! Regards, Marc.
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Thanks for the comments and encouragement Folks.
Marc, presently I'm planning to do it in the final scheme, like yours with the white rudder. Good to see you got the "red paint challenge" sorted out on yours. It's amazing , or maybe not, how many DR.1's are turning up here recently, the Meng release has caused quite a stir!
Cheers,
Lance
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You nearly caught me napping Lance. I saw this and thought that you had recently finished one of these - and then I looked more closely......
I will be following with interest as there is always something to learn from the master builder.
Stephen.
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That build is like a new car: with the price of the accessories you can easily double the list/kit price 8)
I'm sure, you don't need a Meng/WNW kit for a great Dr.I !
Have fun!
Frank
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Thanks Frank and Stephen for your comments! I've finally found some time for a few good sessions on this and made a bit of progress. The cockpit is complete with the exception of the Flight Control stick grip which I'll have to add before closing up the fuselage. Having done this Kit previously I elected to reduce some of the detail which is absolutely invisible on the finished model down by the rudder pedals and aileron flight control wires in the "foot well".
Here's most of the components worked on to this stage, the fuselage is dry fitted and taped.
(https://i.imgur.com/oiS1DiH.jpg)
Following some views of the cockpit. I've gone with the black frame per the latest theories. Instruments are Aero Scale with faces from the spares box, rigging from the Eduard PE Set for the DR.1 and some scratch built components. Seat is from the Kit, cushion from a left over Barracuda set and the belts are HGW.
(https://i.imgur.com/Dslvlm0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ppxWYnm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3gJZsU2.jpg)
Although I had some alignment problems with the fuel tank and floorboard assembly the fuselage (dry fitted here) is a great fit, probably won't even need filler.
(https://i.imgur.com/ZyBVBQ3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fb5pq6w.jpg)
.......and last the horizontal stab with the filet filled in with evergreen sheet, filled, and sanded with a coat of primer.
(https://i.imgur.com/CWre5JR.jpg)
So far so good. I've had a bad "arthritis month" thus the slow progress and "sloppy edges" here and there. 30 years of hauling "G" and being the worlds greatest behind Tom Cruise has caught up to me big time Damn it! I may have to move up to 1:16 Scale soon!
Cheers,
Lance
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Another Dr.I on its way, and a nice start. Following.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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I've had a bad "arthritis month"
Sorry Lance to hear this!
A friend told me, "Aging is not for cowards" after talking about little problems that are probably NOTHING compared to you. ::)
I hope you getting better soon!
You may need longer but you definitely made a good progress.
Cheers,
Frank
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really nice start with the cockpit components Lance :) Arthritis is never fun and I feel for you Lance , for 30 years now I have it in my knees, hips , fingers and just the past few years in my thighs brought on by many many mountain bike crashes ::)
Alexis
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Your Triplane is looking fantastic Lance. The added portion of the fabric baffle looks perfect. I really like how this one is coming together. I hope your Arthritis calms down some soon. Keep up the good fight!
RAGIII
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Thanks all, your comments are welcomed and much appreciated. Looking at the macro photos of the inside surfaces of the fuselage and the "lumpy" surface of the fuel tank I regret taking the shortcut around the spray booth and using a brush coat of that nasty acrylic. I find it difficult to get a decent finish despite using retarder ..... lesson learned this time hopefully!
Cheers,
Lance
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This is looking very good Lance. My late father used to say that "old age never comes alone...."Reading your comment suggests that he was right - and from personal experience, I agree with him. However looking at the quality of your work, I think that 1/16th scale is still a long way off in your future.
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Good start on this Lance.
Closeup shots always show the brutal truth, but I don't think you have to worry about anything inside the fuse.
Don't forget to clean off the straps on the bottom of the landing gear wing.
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Looking excellent there Lance, I'm following your Dr.1 build with much interest.
Sorry to hear of your 'arthritis month', it's a curse when age/ health issues intrude on our hobby but you are producing a real gem there.
The Meng Dr.1 has shone a light on the Roden kit too which is rightly enjoying another burst of enthusiasm from modellers. I made the Roden F.1 kit and think it's excellent.
Looking forward to the rest of this build.
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Great work! Sure, there is some fuzziness in the macro pictures, but it still looks really good!
/F
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Thanks for the generous comments and tolerance of my "whining" about the aging "chassis"! My comment about moving to a larger scale must have come from the world of the paranormal given Dave's announcement concerning the Meng 1:24 upscale of their DR.1! I'm frankly happy in 1:32, and this Kit is very decent given it's age having just completed the Meng release in the same scale. More to follow shortly.
Cheers,
Lance
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Because it was meet to be Lance ..it is your calling to build this kite in 24 scale ;) Plastic God was listening , she heard your becken ;)
Alexis
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I think your DR1 is coming along quite nicely Lance.
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Fvdm, thanks for taking the time to check this out and for commenting, much appreciated.
Alexis, I don't see this one in my future, 1:24 Scale would probably drive me insane while trying to determine how much detail to add and where to stop! I will admit though, I learned a long time ago to never say never when it comes to models!
Cheers,
Lance
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Starting to progress a little faster of late. It's been closed up and the fit was pretty decent however a bit of seam filling was required.
(https://i.imgur.com/K4w2YAa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hjogVuf.jpg)
The bottom lacing was installed using Eduard PE from their WWI Lacing Set and I scratch Built the chin panel and access hatch using Evergreen sheet styrene and some old Vector Nuts. The hinge is scored stretched sprue.
(https://i.imgur.com/I9322o0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/H4XwdXW.jpg)
Last I made up the blast or heat shields for under the gun barrels from foil salvaged from a can of smoked almonds, "waste not want not" as my Mother used to say!
(https://i.imgur.com/98Pjb04.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LgSDIeb.jpg)
It's getting close to a coat of paint which I am looking forward to.
Cheers,
Lance
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Superb work Lance. Watch that seam as it likes to come back to Haunt you ::) The stitching looks good and your scratch built panel is Fantastic. Love the gun blast shields!
RAGIII
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Nice work on those details Lance :) Already they add that extra flare to the over all feel of the build . Love it !
Neat burnishing tools . For doing the blast shields did you burnish them on a soft surface or over a template ?
Alexis
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Looking good Lance.
Kevin
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Nice detail work, Lance.
The blast shields look great.
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Thanks All for the welcome comments!
Alexis, those burnishing tools are pretty old, picked up at the Hobby Shop that used to be at the West end of Yellow Head Trail, (or maybe even the old Round House Hobbies) I don't even recall the name of it! I use the standard desk Pad we all have (green in the photo) as a semi soft burnishing surface.
Cheers,
Lance
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Super extra details there Lance. What was that about 1/16 scale that I read somewhere? Those small details are first class in every way, and no blemishes to be seen anywhere!
Looking forward to seeing paint on this one.
Stephen.
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Always nice to see extra detail scratched from Evergreen styrene sheet and foil.
I always like it when someone brings a supermarket apple pie for desert when they come to dinner, because I have more materials to play with from the foil tray.
My favourite source of material is a bottle of Brown Brothers Tawny Port. The lead foil from around the next has a myriad of uses!
Cheers,
Hugh
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Stephen, Hugh,
Thanks very much for commenting. It will (hopefully) be a good while before I need a larger scale to work with; I well remember the trauma of switching to 1:32 from 1:48 when my fingers suddenly grew too big! Hugh, like you I prefer the softer material provided by the purveyors of fine alcohol beverages, and I'm the first to admit that the better the contents the more suitable the shrink cap material seems to be! I keep a stock of different types of the material including sheet stock fashioned from disposable cook wear as you mention.It all has seemingly endless applications.
Cheers,
Lance
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Always something to learn here ... the little metal plates are a nice idea! I have to keep in mind that for my Dr.I build. If I forget by then, please remind me! ;)
Cheers,
Frank
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The metal plates are a real nice detail.
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Truly superb modeling, all around!
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Thanks for your kind comments Gents. The heat plates are a quick and easy addition missing from this Kit and not included with the otherwise excellent Eduard Photo Etch Set for this release either. I've completed the pre-shading of the wings and also the all red paint finish, photos will follow shortly.
Cheers,
Lance
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As I stated earlier I see a bit of a challenge ahead dealing with a monochrome finish, and especially in red! My concern is that I end up with a bright red toy model, of which I've seen many over the years! I believe I can avoid that with a slightly darker red and some wash and weathering effects on the base coat, along with a bit of difference in the finish of various parts of the model..... we'll have to wait and see how that all works out.
The first step was to use pre-shading technique to allow an indication of the wing ribs to show through the paint scheme. The Kit has virtually zero indication of ribs and tapes and I didn't want to add them as "hardware" and create too graphic an effect. I chose an off black (Tamiya Nato Black) for this.
(https://i.imgur.com/WRvEHQW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6TauLfu.jpg)
After an over night drying period I applied two coats of a mix of Tamiya X7 Red and a bit of their XF9 Hull Red (which is really a brown to my eyes) and then ran a third coat of the mix over the rib tapes to minimize the effect. The overall color impression is less of a "bright" red in real life then in the photos, and I am happy with the rib detail that is apparent but subtle.
(https://i.imgur.com/4PDTc0b.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NPLKsrr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5BcF3gf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Pvainvq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0HenVU9.jpg)
I'll let all of this "cure" overnight, and then put on a couple of layers of Future before tackling the decals, then the weathering and "wash" effect. In between layers I can work on the engine and I still have an Axial prop to carve.
Cheers,
Lance
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Lovely RED Bird Lance! The tapes and shading worked well. Looking forward to your next update!
RAGIII
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The pre shading has worked a treat Lance!
Looking great.
Guy
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Nice paintwork, Lance. I like how this is looking.
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Nice paintwork, Lance. I like how this is looking.
Second this , looking really good Lance !
Alexis
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Looking great Lance. I hope that there'll be a day in the near future when I can actually see your latest builds in the flesh!
Cheers,
Gary
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Thanks All for looking and for your nice comments. It is indeed a awful lot of red, but it does offer a nice change from all the versions of PC.10 we like to chat about!
Gary, it will indeed be a great day when we can place this sequestered lifestyle firmly in our sixes; there are days when I wonder if ever that'll come to pass. I don't believe we have a hope of a Nanton or Edmonton Show this June once again, all for the public good however very disappointing!
Cheers,
Lance
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Ooh, some really nice effects with the paintwork there, Lance. I do like your interpretation of the red - you are certainly catching up on me! I am looking and learning... Regards, Marc
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That red colour is very difficult to get to look realistic Lance: like you I have seen may red toys over the years and would hesitste to attempt it myself. I do like what you have done so far - with more shading and weathering I think that you will eventually have something that looks pretty much the part.
Stephen.
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Marc, Stephen,
Thanks for that! Just to add to the shock of the scheme I still recall the thrill of seeing an all red Beechcraft Stagger Wing parked at our local Airport when I was about 16 years old, I'll never forget how captivating that scene was! The aircraft was there when I spent the day hanging around the Field to watch the RCAF Golden Hawks Formation Team Show, it was their first year. Along with the latter event that Beech really got my blood flowing, what a beautiful sight!
As my great friend, MGunns puts it, "but I digress!"
I got two layers of Future on her today, and some work completed on the engine, more photos soon!
Cheers,
Lance
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I really like how you did the red. The effect is very subtle and doesn't have the "garishness" of a toy.
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At first I thought the preshading was a bit overdone but with the red it looks great.
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Fredjocko, Thanks, that's the effect I was hoping to achieve.
Fvdm, I normally use a medium grey however switched to the black as I figured the red would cover the pre shade too much; I "got lucky" on that decision!
Cheers,
Lance
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Just getting caught up here Lance: I like the little gauge additions to the interior, adds a bit of interest and fills up some of the voids nicely. There's a lot of red, but it is the "Red Baron's" aircraft. The preshading turned out real nice. As stated, not over done, just a nice subtle touch. This is shaping up to be a real "Barn Burner" and a true contender for the Nanton "Pose Down".
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Thanks Mark, I hope the world turns a bit brighter and we can have more Shows/Competitions soon. Since the last update I've completed the engine and the decals along with a lot of required touch ups with the exception of weathering and a final semi gloss coat overall. The few buckle eyelets required have been added to the landing gear struts and cabanes as well. I'm now on a short pause on the main structure while I ponder whether an overall filter or wash is next ....... Here's the main bits with the decals completed:
(https://i.imgur.com/aWSLQzk.jpg)
You can see the difference in decal qualities; the weight legend is a Pheon product and went on beautifully, the S/N legend is from the Meng Kit and shows due to it's greater thickness which I hope will tone down with a flatter finish.
(https://i.imgur.com/QmU0JRu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SJlbQYs.jpg)
Here's the Oberursel and cowling:
(https://i.imgur.com/woi5ceD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RDpZZju.jpg)
...... and last the Axial 6 lamination prop. As you can see it still needs a little work but I'll get on that while I ponder the final finish!
(https://i.imgur.com/LcrjUYz.jpg)
The Kit one used as a template is from Wingnut Wings, I'll salvage a prop boss from one in the spares box. I'm using the standard Alaskan Yellow Cedar and Pear veneers for the light/Dark laminations respectively.
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking terrific Lance. I am looking forward to seeing the filters/washes.
RAGIII
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Rick,
I'm hoping a coat of semi-gloss clear will get done today and that should provide a base for a bit of weathering and then a light wash or filter. The photos we have of this aircraft in service show a fairly clean condition with just a few blemishes in the finish around the cockpit. It will get the standard rotary engine oil "grunge" treatment as well.
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking really good Lance. Looking forward to seeing your magic on the prop too.
Stephen.
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Thanks Stephen, reinforcement is always welcome at this work bench!
I decided to take a stab at starting the prop yesterday and got carried way. It took about 3 hours of slow "whittling" with a couple of fresh #11 blades, the pear wood has the consistency of cured concrete but it's done and ready for stain and varnish. I hope to do a hub for it later today despite a full schedule of real life chores.
Front profile started:
(https://i.imgur.com/7ivh8XC.jpg)
Side profile added:
(https://i.imgur.com/zzP9FQ5.jpg)
......... and the finished prop.
(https://i.imgur.com/o0tv8mQ.jpg)
Overall a successful session; no injuries or accidents with the sharp tools, and only moderate pain to those arthritic stubs I call fingers! :(
Cheers,
Lance
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The prop is a Beauty Lance!
RAGIII
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Lance,
You make prop carving appear so simple. I look forward to seeing it under a coat of varnish.
Kevin
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Beautiful Lance! Do you carve with the blade and then switch over to sanding when you get "close"? What sort of sanding tools do you use? Oh, and how do you avoid slippage and bloodshed during this process? ::) Thanks.
Best regards,
Bob
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Blimey,
That prop is beautiful Lance!
I really must try that...
Guy
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Thanks All for your very generous comments.
Quote from Bob R.
"Beautiful Lance! Do you carve with the blade and then switch over to sanding when you get "close"? What sort of sanding tools do you use? Oh, and how do you avoid slippage and bloodshed during this process?"
Bob,
Regarding sanding yes, I switch to it once close to the product I want as a cut too deep is essentially "bin time" and start over! I use a assortment of grits of sand paper and sanding sticks, both model products and throwaway makeup nail grooming varieties from WalMart. In close to the hub I do a lot of shaping with sand paper wrapped around pencils and dowels. As for avoiding bloodshed, I rely on the "luck of the Irish" and a deep seated hatred of pain and suffering!
Hopefully I can take some time to get the stain and perhaps first coat of varnish on it today. I always look forward to seeing the effect the stain adds to the prop!
Cheers,
Lance
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Just getting caught up on you progress Lance and so far I must , very impressive work on this one .
Alexis
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Impressive! The new prop looks beautiful. Congratulations in capturing the shape so well. :)
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First class prop Lance - you have replicated the shape beautifully.
Just a comment about carving props: as you know I make them in the True Scale and this Brobdignagian scale, but I only use files and sandpaper. This avoids any risk of cutting off too much, (and having to start again), and getting blood all over the article and suffering pain in the fingers. Surprisingly I can file something more rapidly than carving, and the hardness of the wood does not matter either. Just for info for anyone who is reading this thread. However they are made, real wood propellors always look better.
Stephen.
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My thanks to both Lance and Stephen for sharing their wooden prop fabricating tips, and I appreciate Stephen's nod to safety--I would likely slice of a bit of digit with a blade, and it would not be the first time! :o Very helpful gentlemen.
Carry on Lance. She's a fine-looking Dreidecker, and certainly an icon of WWI aviation. I am looking forward to that stained prop.
Best,
Bob
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Thank you all for your kind comments. Stephen, I agree, a wooden prop is hard to beat!
I've just determined that I need to take a small step backwards on this; I had been undecided on how to handle the serials and weight data markings on the fuselage sides. Just this morning i was able to find the notes for the Cutting Edge Decals sheet for this aircraft on line and it is very clear that the Serials were over sprayed but still partially visible and, along with a photo I should have noticed sooner, the weights table is not visible. I have a healthy respect for this company's products and the quality of their research. I am going to do a bit of spraying to match that before going any further. It should be an easy fix, wish me luck!
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance, fantastic Dreidecker and a beautiful AXIAL prop! The wood colors are wonderful, will look great varnished.
The Alaskan Yellow Cedar seems to be nice, (but I was not able to find it in Europe).
Just a comment about carving props: as you know I make them in the True Scale and this Brobdignagian scale, but I only use files and sandpaper. This avoids any risk of cutting off too much, (and having to start again), and getting blood all over the article and suffering pain in the fingers.
Oh yes Stephen! I use also those medical scalpel knifes, but I have a deep respect! So I use them NOT for carving, but sandpaper. Ok, my airscrews are smaller, so much less needs to be removed.
Cheers,
Frank
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Thank you all for your kind comments. Stephen, I agree, a wooden prop is hard to beat!
I've just determined that I need to take a small step backwards on this; I had been undecided on how to handle the serials and weight data markings on the fuselage sides. Just this morning i was able to find the notes for the Cutting Edge Decals sheet for this aircraft on line and it is very clear that the Serials were over sprayed but still partially visible and, along with a photo I should have noticed sooner, the weights table is not visible. I have a healthy respect for this company's products and the quality of their research. I am going to do a bit of spraying to match that before going any further. It should be an easy fix, wish me luck!
Cheers,
Lance
Glad to hear that you caught these details before it was too late Lance! Looking forward to the overspray!
RAGIII
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Beautiful Prop!
Cheers,
Hugh
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Thank you for your comments, glad you appreciate the prop!
Frank,
This supplier has a great selection of this Alaskan yellow cedar but unfortunately no longer sells pear wood. You seem to have little difficulty finding pear in Europe so this link may be helpful; he has great service and very reasonable prices.
https://syrenshipmodelcompany.com/milled-lumber.php
It gets harder all the time to find such products, a vanishing art I suppose. Just viewing the ships on his site is a pleasure in itself!
Cheers.
Lance
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That prop looks incredible! Where do you get wood that thin and how do you glue it together. I had to make a butcher block cutting board in 8th grade shop class and lets just say it was kind of square...
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That prop looks incredible! Where do you get wood that thin and how do you glue it together. I had to make a butcher block cutting board in 8th grade shop class and lets just say it was kind of square...
I have a package of assorted veneer samples from this Canadian Company that works although only part of the assortment is suitable as you want a nice tight close grain to work with. It's thickness varies but is generally 1/16 inch or less.
https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca
I far prefer the sheets from this company however they don't sell any of the darker pear wood presently.
https://syrenshipmodelcompany.com/milled-lumber.php
I use a good quality carpenters wood glue (the white or yellow liquid stuff is just fine) You can check out the methods here; it's a little dated but the basics are all there.
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=282.60
Several of our members have also contributed to this little tutorial.
I don't use powered sanding tools anymore, preferring to just hand carve and sand the props.
Cheers,
Lance
I'd say most fine wood work supply shops would be able to provide you with assorted veneers
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That prop looks incredible! Where do you get wood that thin and how do you glue it together. I had to make a butcher block cutting board in 8th grade shop class and lets just say it was kind of square...
I have a package of assorted veneer samples from this Canadian Company that works although only part of the assortment is suitable as you want a nice tight close grain to work with. It's thickness varies but is generally 1/16 inch or less.
https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca
I far prefer the sheets from this company however they don't sell any of the darker pear wood presently.
https://syrenshipmodelcompany.com/milled-lumber.php
I use a good quality carpenters wood glue (the white or yellow liquid stuff is just fine) You can check out the methods here; it's a little dated but the basics are all there.
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=282.60
Several of our members have also contributed to this little tutorial.
I don't use powered sanding tools anymore, preferring to just hand carve and sand the props.
Cheers,
Lance
I'd say most fine wood work supply shops would be able to provide you with assorted veneers
Thank you so much. Very interesting info and maybe I can do this.
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A bit more progress to report; the prop is stained, varnished and has it's Axial logos and hub, just a semi gloss finish coat remaining.
(https://i.imgur.com/b2xpAPM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cAKvbSN.jpg)
I finally did the well known badly chipped paint section from seat belt buckle wear on the port side. The overall light wash of brown has also been completed, it's actually a bit more apparent in real view and the last impression of bright "Fire Engine Red" is gone. I'm quite happy with the effect. As indicated earlier I removed the Datum Line and Weights Table per the real aircraft and partially over-sprayed the Serial Number.
(https://i.imgur.com/AANrjeR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yiKk4ji.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hAEOEac.jpg)
Next is completion of the guns and landing gear assembly along with a bit of main component assembly.
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking great, Lance. I love the scratched paintwork by the cockpit which is absolutely necessary to depict this aircraft authentically :)
Cheers,
Gary
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Once again that Prop is AMAZING! Your chipped paint around the cockpit and overpainted serial number look outstanding! A Proper 425/17 indeed!
RAGIII
PS: The wash was quite effective in toning down the red. Well done!
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Thanks Gary and Rick. I should have mentioned that the mid Wing is obviously posed for the photos as are the prop and engine. I have run into another minor hiccup, my Aviattic cowling doesn't fit very well so some fiddling will be required. As long as steps forward equal or outnumber those backwards all's still good!
Cheers,
Lance
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The prop is a stunner Lance. Come to that the rest of the build looks pretty good too! I too like the chipped paint on the side of the cockpit - a very realistic addition indeed.
Stephen.
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Beautiful job the prop Lance and the wear for the seat belt buckle is a really nice touch . In all this is really taking hold :)
Alexis
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Great paint work, Lance. Definitely not 'toy like'.
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I never saw the wear on the fuselage from the seat belt. I think it's a great detail.
When i see people make wooden props I always get jealous. I think it's a piece of art.
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Lance, all those things looks very nice ... but can you explain the white chipping? ???
Was the red white primed below? I would assume that the red paint is removed and the linen color comes through, or is only the picture so bright, that it looks white? Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Frank
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Frank,
It's the latter case, the color of the "chips" is actually Clear Doped Linen for which I used a mix of Tamiya's Deck Tan and Desert Yellow. Looking back at the photo here it does indeed appear white, which it is not in real view.
Cheers,
Lance
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Thanks Lance, also for the detailed explanation of you linen mixture!
Seems to be finished soon, you will save a lot of time in the rigging phase of the build ;)
Cheers,
Frank
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I've finally "unstalled" this little project and have some real progress to add to the log.I completed the Spandaus using the kit breeches and barrels with the PE rolled cooling jackets. They were perfect until, after installation, I managed to flatten both jackets somewhat and then damaged them further trying to bend them back into shape. The end result was to tear them off, repair the damage to the cowling, and using the breech blocks with Master barrels and jackets start over again. I'm much happier with the new ones.
Here they are before painting and after. I used Alclad Gunmetal with a bit of Airframe Aluminum added.
(https://i.imgur.com/dPvpONV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BeNFQnQ.jpg)
A filler pipe and cap for the oil was also added (missing on this Kit) and then the mid wing was mounted.
(https://i.imgur.com/IfUlWFi.jpg)
Once that was in place the gun blast shields were installed on the upper decking.
(https://i.imgur.com/pVTfvjw.jpg)
Once the guns were remounted the upper wing was installed on the inter plane struts only. Next I strapped the beast into the Magic Third Hand and was able to install the cabanes and the aileron control cables. The cabanes fit beautifully which says volumes for this Roden Kit!
(https://i.imgur.com/dhWZVjj.jpg)
The right side cables have not been installed yet in this photo.
(https://i.imgur.com/3t8bxnA.jpg)
Last I completed the assembly of the landing gear struts to the axle wing using a jig from my first build of this kit almost 10 years ago ....... never throw anything away! The popsicle stick allows for getting the assembly level.
(https://i.imgur.com/7z3HBAC.jpg)
So, almost complete. Next steps are the cabane rigging wires and flight control cables on the tail and ailerons, then on to the landing gear, cowling and engine, and rudder installation. All these components are more or less complete so this should wrap up pretty quickly!
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking Terrific Lance. Those Spandau Guns look awesome. Did you figure out the fit issue you had with the Aviattic cowling?
RAGIII
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Lance,
The tai-plane is moving along rightly. Thanks for the photo of your jig, another idea in the toolbox.
Kevin
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I don’t know how I missed this . That’s an amazing red Tripe you are building, Lance. Everything, from the shade of red to the weathering looks great.
Andreas
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Great fix on the guns, Lance. They look good.
Looking forward to see this in the completed section.
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Thanks for the comments as always Guys, they are very much appreciated!
Rick, the cowling worked out nicely after a short session with the "Good Wife's" stolen hair dryer. Hopefully I didn't get any glue or paint on it ..........
I just noticed on one of the photos that I've lost the sight ring off the right Spandau, back to the spares box to remedy that today!
Cheers,
Lance
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Progress is coming along wonderfully Lance , guns turned out awesome and that red ....really like the Red on this bird !
Alexis
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Looking absolutely First-Rate Lance! I'm really enjoying this, as I have not seen a model of the final all-read Triplane, 425/17, in quite a while. You have done a marvelous job with it.
Best regards,
Bob
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Those guns are awesome Lance. The rest of the build is also excellent - I do like the compass at the rear of the cowling - another new feature to me! I am looking forward to seeing this mini-masterpiece being completed.
Stephen.
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Thanks Bob and Alexis. Stephen, the References I have all label the instrument on the cowling as a Fuel contents gauge. I've seen numerous comments to the effect that the instrumentation layout of the machine is mainly unconfirmed as there are no DR.1 survivors. Both Roden and Meng (Wingnut Wings) have the compass placed in the common manner on the cockpit floor forward of the seat. As I love to say, "the only thing we are sure of is ....... we're not sure"!
Thanks again for commenting Folks.
Cheers,
Lance
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Some great progress here, Lance and looking very good! I shall borrow techniques shamelessly for my build! I really like the guns... not sure myself if every Dr.1 had those machine gun splash protector plates though... Regards, Marc
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Marc,
"not sure myself if every Dr.1 had those machine gun splash protector plates though..."
HMMMMM..... You may have a good point! I've spent hours in all the Refs I have here but have never checked for that. I assumed they all did, but as we all learn the hard way, never assume. I'll spend a bit of time checking this out & let you know what I find, if anything.
Glad to see you got yours back on the rails, it's looking very nice indeed. Like my Meng Kit this one has given you a pretty hard time!
Cheers,
Lance
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Great job on the guns Lance ;)
She’s coming along...
Guy
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Lance, you made a great job here (https://www.modellboard.net/Smileys/Modellboard/tongue.gif)
The Master Spandaus are always a nice addition to a model, even in my smaller scale.
Your and Marcs build invites me to put a red Dr.I into my cabinet!
Cheers,
Frank
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Thank you Frank. I believe a red DR.1 is an absolute "must have" for your cabinet. The all red scheme may seem so common or overdone however the man and his legend will never fade away. I often wonder what he may have accomplished had he survived the war. I am looking forward to putting this one on the display shelf.
Cheers,
Lance
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Thank you Frank. I believe a red DR.1 is an absolute "must have" for your cabinet. The all red scheme may seem so common or overdone however the man and his legend will never fade away. I often wonder what he may have accomplished had he survived the war. I am looking forward to putting this one on the display shelf.
Cheers,
Lance
I agree Lance. For years I resisted doing the All red bird. It then struck Me that a JG1 collection without it would not be complete ;D Your version is inspiring to say the least!
RAGIII
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Getting very close to the finish line now, a myriad of "fiddley bits" done or well in progress but definitely a serious session of touch ups to be done though.
The engine, cowling, and landing gear frame members are done, the latter assembly twice as my clumsy fingers "pinged" it off while working on a stubborn flight control wire.
(https://i.imgur.com/4mYrBA6.jpg)
The cabane bracing wires were also finished and I added the usual profuse amount of engine oil to the front lower fuselage. The oil is AK Enamel Engine Oil.
(https://i.imgur.com/7TcTH6u.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YwK2vWU.jpg)
The flight control cables have been completed with the exception of the rudder which is the next step.
(https://i.imgur.com/41VBMpq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gc9cy8o.jpg)
Now it's time for a break; "Wonder Dog can take me for my daily walk!
Cheers,
Lance
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Your triplane looks More Spectacular with each update. I love the oily stains and other subtle weathering! Rigging is looking terrific!
RAGIII
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Late to the party, but looking real good. Love the correct castor oil stains.
Ed
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The more I view this build , the more I can't wait to see her all button up !
Alexis
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Thanks for looking and commenting Folks. I'm working on the rudder and cables today, and hoping to finish her up if all goes well.
Cheers,
Lance
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Looking absolutely super Lance. I am really looking forward to seeing it completed.
Stephen.
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Beautiful work Lance! Its a treat to see you tackle such a legendary subject.
-Sean
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Looks very real Lance! I really like the appearance of your weathering on this subject. Excited to see the finish!
Best regards,
Bob
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That looks outstanding Lance. Superb work and I love the shade of red you are using. It matches the shade of red I saw on MvR artifacts from his Dr.1 at the Australian War Memorial.
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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I really love, how the details form together with the nice color shades a piece of history. Bravo Lance! It looks so real ....
Cheers,
Frank
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Well, I am humbled by such positive and truly encouraging comments! I thought I might have got a little carried away on the weathering, especially the fresh engine oil on the underside but I guess it's realistic, they were dirty little beasts as we see in the replicas and rebuilds today.I didn't get it finished today, but very nearly........ Tomorrow I'll get the step and lifting handles on, a few more touch ups, and she's done! Photos soon and thanks again for the encouragement!
Cheers,
Lance
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Excellent progress, Lance. Love those little details!
Cheers,
Gary
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Thanks Gary, and they never seem to end!
Despite several interruptions in progress I finished this one today and other then some photos for the Completed Models section this adventure is over. I replaced the kit Lifting Handles with brass wire formed ones as the originals were over scale and very fragile.
(https://i.imgur.com/LNR0YYX.jpg)
The step for the port side was a better fit so the Kit one was added. With a coat of flat black it looks the part.
(https://i.imgur.com/eHjOpwN.jpg)
The wing tip skids were added and , once the rudder rigging was complete the horizontal stab braces as well. The latter had to be redone using brass "Strutz" material, really wish I had more of that stuff!
(https://i.imgur.com/romHtvU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JaG8mli.jpg)
In the midst of all that action I broke a landing gear strut which had to be re-glued and the bracing adjusted, hopefully none of the damage is apparent.
(https://i.imgur.com/8H8rSA0.jpg)
...... and as a ceremonial final touch popped the prop onto it's shaft.......... it's done!
(https://i.imgur.com/Ank5r0p.jpg)
Here's a couple of real quick work bench shots of the finished model, I'll try for some for Completed Models tomorrow.
(https://i.imgur.com/G6kMgEK.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1Az5Uwo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZPLRBOp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/B73n4n7.jpg)
Not a "Contest Queen" by any means but, after 60 or more years of model building, I've finally got the Baron's Red Devil in the collection!
Cheers,
Lance
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The final details and rigging are terrific Lance. One of the nicest RED DR1's I have seen 8)
RAGIII
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Nice rigging Lance!
Guy
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Lance, those shots make my heart beat a bit faster--the all red Fokker Dr.I of MVR is the quintessential WWI aircraft we all grew up with as kids back in the 1960s. You have done a really remarkable job in capturing the look and feel of this iconic aircraft. Thank you . . . and very well done!
Best regards,
Bob
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That just looks superb, Lance. Great job!
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Thanks for the very encouraging comments Guys! Bob, von Richthofen's 425/17 is indeed an icon and I never tire of reading more about it's place, and particularly the man's place, in the historic events of the First Global War.
I'll try to get some decent photos done for Completed Models later today.
Cheers,
Lance
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That is an outstanding Dr.1 Lance and your shade of red looks perfect. I love the delicate weathering and the small but important detail you have worked into the model. You have certainly shown how good the Roden kit can be in the hands of a skilled modeller.
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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That is a beautiful result of your great craftsmanship!
Build, painting, weathering, detail, rigging .... all combined created a nice Fokker.
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... after 60 or more years of model building, ...
that is really an impressive figure! Who else can say that? I really hope for you, that you can add more years to it and create more great models with this experience.
Do you have an rough idea how many models you built in that time frame?
All the best for you!
Cheers,
Frank
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Dave, Frank,
Thanks for your comments. It is a very good Kit and for it's age offers good value and accuracy.
As for the "number" Frank I actually lied, it's been nearly 70 years since my first model, a balsa wood and paper tissue Ryan Navion. I quickly realized that paper and tissue was not my "medium" and discovered the balsa and plastic scale models done by, I believe, a Company called Strombecker. How many built? I couldn't even guess. When I left home for Flying Training at 18 I left behind over 50 in care of my kid brother, between his air rifle and trading skills they didn't last very long! There were gaps like all of us over the years but I'd guess a couple of hundred models wouldn't be an exaggeration.
Cheers
Lance
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This turned out pretty darned good Lance. I know you wrestled with certain elements of this kit, but you managed to get 'er on the mat for the three count and I can almost see the Coalminers glove in your display case alongside this model. I have never been a fan of the 425/17 all red scheme but this one just might convince me to give it a try. I like the way the red turned out. I think that is my issue with it is the red makes it look toyish, but this isn't close to being toyish, very well done Lance. I like your rigging too. The tubes look pretty small and enhance the rigging. The conspicuous thing about the broken strut is that it's beyond inconspicuous in that it isn't even visible. Great recovery there. Another Outstanding build Lance.
I 'll bet your model count is over 1K, I am sure mine is and I am not too far behind you in years.
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Many thanks for all of your very kind words Gunney. I don't know whats worse to admit to, a thousand Kits each or our age figures, but apparently they are both pretty well irrefutable!
Cheers,
Lance
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Lance - I have to agree with every word Mark stated. Magnificent work. And now I'd love to do 425/17.
Cheers,
Gary
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You did a great job Lance. Maybe you can wash the plane before taking final pictures. It looks a bit dirty. ;)
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Gary and Fvdm,
Thanks for looking and for your comments. This all red scheme does stand out on the shelf!
Cheers,
Lance