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Title: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 11, 2021, 11:09:00 AM
Okay:  It looks like Rick Geisler and I have the same thought patterns when it comes to the latest Fokker DR.I builds.  For the Meng kit I chose Steinhausers 564/17, which I believe is a later DR.I than the one that Rick did. 

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ad261/ptbarnum101/DSC05795.JPG?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ptbarnum101/a/9f423209-6dcd-4114-80c6-f53b5e230d39/p/13637d91-55a1-4a9d-b9d3-329aa03a9a56)

I have seen artwork for three variations of this aircraft, one, the Hobby craft kit, has a Red patch behind the cockpit with a yellow "X" and a streaked tail section with the Iron Cross Markings.  Then there is the one with a the red patch, yellow "X" and red and yellow striped tail with the Iron Cross Markings, and the lastly the one that I did with a yellow patch, red "X" and the Balkan Cross markings. 

The Meng kit goes together fairly well.  There is the warped wing issue that I used a hair drier to correct, the broken piece of the Turtle deck, easy fix, and the directions that are unclear in a few areas, but overall a nice kit.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ad261/ptbarnum101/DSC05798.JPG?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ptbarnum101/a/9f423209-6dcd-4114-80c6-f53b5e230d39/p/15c5cbd8-d2aa-4a64-80f8-b0c55fa97a02)

I used the Aviattic Streaking decals that Richard designed for the Meng kit.  They went on quite well with little trimming around the control cable fair leads and that is about it.  I used a mix of Testors MM Leather and Classic for the under coat for a nice glossy finish.  The Yellow was Testors MM Insiginia Yellow and the red is Tamiya X-2 with a little Brown thrown in to tone down the red.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ad261/ptbarnum101/DSC05797.JPG?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ptbarnum101/a/9f423209-6dcd-4114-80c6-f53b5e230d39/p/5dd2e0ae-a09a-425f-a5c1-434ac31946aa)

 I used the kit photo etch for the Machine gun jackets and for the seat belts I used Kitsworld Decals.  An interesting concept and not the easiest to work with and they turned green for some reason.   Rigging of the undercarriage is monofilament and Gaspatch Turnbuckles for strength, the cross bracing for the upper wing and all control lines are Modelkasten.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ad261/ptbarnum101/DSC05796.JPG?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ptbarnum101/a/9f423209-6dcd-4114-80c6-f53b5e230d39/p/ebc8ef97-d805-43a9-a1fc-98e4d536591e)

Getting the yellow patch and the red stipes on the tail took quite some time as I wanted to get it as close to the drawings as possible so calipers and ruller were used, took quite a bit time masking and measuring the tail, but worth the effort.  I reverse masked it, painting the red, masking, a shot of Tamiya White Primer, and then painted the yellow.  The national markings and eyeballs are masks, first time I used them, not sure I would use them again, but if the markings were something I was chasing I would.  The markings on the rudder and the fuselage went on nice but I couldn't get a good seal of the markings on the upper wing due to the rib taping detail, so had some "holidays" to touch up.

Our club is doing a triplane group build and I have chosen the Udet Triplane, using the Roden Kit and the Meng using Steinhausers.

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ad261/ptbarnum101/DSC05806.JPG?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ptbarnum101/a/9f423209-6dcd-4114-80c6-f53b5e230d39/p/05bc24ab-eb2a-45a1-96bf-39c4f77e6b1a)

I am looking forward to more markings being released for this kit as it is a pretty decent kit.  I suspect it was the Wingnut Wings prototype that Meng put into production as there are a few areas I think Wingnut Wings would have changed, but that being aside, it still a good kit and builds into a nicely detailed model.

Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: Alexis on January 11, 2021, 11:22:00 AM
Wow Mark , Beautiful job on your Fokker , both look super aide by side  :)


Alexis
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 11, 2021, 11:27:42 AM
Thanks Alexis:  Duly appreciate the comment and you checking in.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: gbrivio on January 11, 2021, 04:25:40 PM
Really nice models, Steinhsuser's one is my favourite variant with both fuselage and tail featuring yellow base and red marks. Finishing is superb.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: Borsos on January 11, 2021, 04:54:49 PM
Great work! Steinhäusers Markings are my all-time favorites for Fokker triplanes.
Andreas
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: macsporran on January 11, 2021, 05:48:04 PM
Very pleased to Meet the Fokkers. Nice models.
Sandy
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: kensar on January 12, 2021, 12:27:18 AM
Nice, clean builds, Mark.  You and Rick must be in a build-off.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: RAGIII on January 12, 2021, 01:14:20 AM
Outstanding build/s Mark! The Aviattic streaking looks great. Just a note on the Steinhauser Markings. You are correct. Yours represents a later different Dr1 than mine. The red band and yellow X is an early DR1 with Early Ailerons. There is No known photo of the tail so it may have had stripes or May Not have had stripes, thus two choices. Your work on both is exceptional. I think you have inspired Me to get Mine done  8) Gorgeous in all respects!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: gedmundson on January 12, 2021, 02:16:31 AM
Mark - your triplane looks wonderful. All aspects of your model are a pleasure to look at. Awesome work, my friend.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 12, 2021, 10:08:48 AM
Really nice models, Steinhsuser's one is my favourite variant with both fuselage and tail featuring yellow base and red marks. Finishing is superb.
Ciao
Giuseppe

Thank you Giuseppe for looking and leaving your kind comments, much appreciated.  Steinhausers has been one of my favorites for a long time, I am glad to finally have it in the collection.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 12, 2021, 10:10:00 AM
Great work! Steinhäusers Markings are my all-time favorites for Fokker triplanes.
Andreas

Thank you Andreas for looking in and leaving your comments, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 12, 2021, 10:13:47 AM
Very pleased to Meet the Fokkers. Nice models.
Sandy

Thank you Sandy, and I am sure the Fokkers appreciate the sentiment and the pleasure is all theirs.  ;)
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 12, 2021, 10:15:33 AM
Nice, clean builds, Mark.  You and Rick must be in a build-off.

Thank you Kensar for looking in.  The builds are totally coincidental.  The same aircraft different periods and units for Udets, and Steinhausers is a different marking for his later aircraft.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 12, 2021, 10:17:35 AM
Outstanding build/s Mark! The Aviattic streaking looks great. Just a note on the Steinhauser Markings. You are correct. Yours represents a later different Dr1 than mine. The red band and yellow X is an early DR1 with Early Ailerons. There is No known photo of the tail so it may have had stripes or May Not have had stripes, thus two choices. Your work on both is exceptional. I think you have inspired Me to get Mine done  8) Gorgeous in all respects!
RAGIII

Thank you Rick:  That's what I thought, that the yellow band with red X was a later aircraft.  I like the way yours is turning out so get going and get it finished for the final "Pose Down".
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 12, 2021, 10:20:19 AM
Mark - your triplane looks wonderful. All aspects of your model are a pleasure to look at. Awesome work, my friend.
Cheers,
Gary

Thank you Gary for looking in and your comments, duly appreciated.  It is an attractive scheme and should stand out amongst some of the others that our club is doing.  Got a few more up my sleeve so stay tuned for more modeling excitement.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: Dave Brewer on January 12, 2021, 11:41:15 AM
Wow, lovely looking job Mark, really well-executed,congratulations.
Cheers,
Dave.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 12, 2021, 12:40:32 PM
Wow, lovely looking job Mark, really well-executed,congratulations.
Cheers,
Dave.

Thank you Dave for looking in and your take on the build.   Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: crouthaj on January 12, 2021, 12:55:56 PM
Beautiful streaking effect -- great overall build. Thanks for sharing the model.

Jason
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: PrzemoL on January 12, 2021, 07:16:25 PM
Very attractive Dr.I. And the streaking decals really do the job. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: lcarroll on January 12, 2021, 11:51:11 PM
Really nice work on both Mark. I've enjoyed our "Mini" Group Build of the Meng kit, hope to finish mine today/tomorrow and get started on the Roden one. Now that you've completed both so beautifully in record time I've no excuses left to explain my slow progress! The Steinhauser markings are also amongst my favorites for this aircraft, if another Meng Tripe appears on my bench (and it very well might) it could grow beyond just a "vision"!)
   Looking forward to your third one after a preview of what's up your sleeve, should be a real winner!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: ModelCellar on January 13, 2021, 05:47:03 AM
Very very nice.  Great looking build.  ...and I like the ground work too !!   Looks great!

Paul


Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: Bughunter on January 14, 2021, 07:13:53 AM
Great work! Steinhäusers Markings are my all-time favorites for Fokker triplanes.
Exactly!
Started a Dr.I looong time ago, but failed to paint the Fokker streaking, so repainted with MRP "Richthofen's Red" ::) Still not finished.
So after seeing you model I will made another attempt to do _this_ Fokker once some projects are finished, very inspiring!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 14, 2021, 11:30:03 AM
Beautiful streaking effect -- great overall build. Thanks for sharing the model.

Jason

Thanks for looking in Jason and your kind comments, much appreciated.  Good 'ole Aviattic decals.  Went on nice and do the trick.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 14, 2021, 11:30:56 AM
Very attractive Dr.I. And the streaking decals really do the job. Congratulations!

Thank you Prez for scoping it out and leaving your compliment, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 14, 2021, 11:32:40 AM
Great work! Steinhäusers Markings are my all-time favorites for Fokker triplanes.
Exactly!
Started a Dr.I looong time ago, but failed to paint the Fokker streaking, so repainted with MRP "Richthofen's Red" ::) Still not finished.
So after seeing you model I will made another attempt to do _this_ Fokker once some projects are finished, very inspiring!

Cheers,
Frank

Thank you Frank, make that attempt to get one finished, it's a nice kit.  Glad to see that got your motivation level up.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 14, 2021, 11:34:44 AM
Very very nice.  Great looking build.  ...and I like the ground work too !!   Looks great!

Paul
Thank you Paul for looking in and your compliment, duly appreciated.  The base is a Squadron product.  I let it sit for about two years and finally got around to painting it up.  I don't think Squadron has it anymore, too bad as it is a neat base to display the model and open for lots of detailing and attention.  I will probably add some "grass" to it to "liven" it up a bit.  Thanks for looking in.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 14, 2021, 11:37:46 AM
Really nice work on both Mark. I've enjoyed our "Mini" Group Build of the Meng kit, hope to finish mine today/tomorrow and get started on the Roden one. Now that you've completed both so beautifully in record time I've no excuses left to explain my slow progress! The Steinhauser markings are also amongst my favorites for this aircraft, if another Meng Tripe appears on my bench (and it very well might) it could grow beyond just a "vision"!)
   Looking forward to your third one after a preview of what's up your sleeve, should be a real winner!
Cheers,
Lance

Thanks Lance for scoping it out here on the forum and leaving your comments, much appreciated.  My next Tripe is going to be Mohnicke's with the blue tail, but first.......it's Felixstowe but per your guidance will probably do the other Tripe coincident with the Felxistowe, talk about a "Barn Burner" of a card!
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: Fvdm on January 17, 2021, 11:31:41 PM
Great airplane,  nice paintjob, wel executed. This is a real gem. You can be proud of it.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: pepperman42 on January 18, 2021, 11:38:07 PM
Great work!! No fear when you used the markings masks over the decal streaking?

Steve
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 21, 2021, 12:38:26 PM
Great work!! No fear when you used the markings masks over the decal streaking?

Steve

Thanks for looking in Steve:  I did the masks before I applied the decal streaking.  The only issue was that the mask didn't get a good purchase on the upper wing rib stitching, otherwise they worked quite well.  With care, it is possibe to mask over the Aviattic streaking decals if they have sat for a day and were applied over a gloss finish and are set.  Be careful and use a low tack or rub the tape over your forehead, the decals are quite robust.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: dr 1 ace on January 22, 2021, 01:45:16 AM
Nicely done, always a sharp scheme !

Ed
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 23, 2021, 02:19:11 PM
Nicely done, always a sharp scheme !

Ed

Thanks Ed for looking in and your comment, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: Gisbod on January 23, 2021, 06:40:40 PM
Looks great Mark,

Despite all our home made attempts, you can’t really beat the Aviattic streaking!

Guy
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: Pup7309 on January 25, 2021, 08:27:53 PM
Hi, beautiful build and finish. Congrats. Did you have a preference for the Roden orMeng kit? Thanks, D
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: WD on January 29, 2021, 03:40:12 AM
Beautiful work, and a wonderful scheme!

WD
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on January 29, 2021, 09:04:54 AM
Thanks Guy, Pup and WD for checking in and your kind words.  I do like the Aviattic streaking decals, not a lot of muss or fuss. 
@Pup, I really had no preference, having built the Roden and Hobbycraft kits, I tackled this one and enjoyed the build.
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: Monty on February 09, 2021, 05:29:22 AM
I seem to have missed out on commenting on these builds, Mark... They are very, very impressive! I wish I could do as well! What a pleasure to view! Regards, Marc
Title: Re: Meng DR.I Steinhauser (Later) Roden DR.I Udet LO
Post by: mgunns on February 12, 2021, 12:30:54 PM
Thank you Monty for checking the builds out and leaving  your most kind comments.  Much appreciated.