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Title: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Picture
Post by: Gisbod on January 02, 2021, 07:31:18 PM: Hello all,

Long time no building! I’ve recently moved house and I’m full time decorating at the moment. But.. I’m at the point where I could restart the model bench. With the new house I’m ordering a dedicated wall mounted cabinet to fit 1/48 scale aircraft. I’ve never displayed in the home before (they all end up in the bin!) and need to start a plan for filling it. Largely WW1 but a selection of post war & WW2 to go into the mix. I’ve already got the new Tamiya Spitfire Mk.1 as I thought this would be a straightforward ‘luxury build’ to get back into modelling.

However, I have just also bought the Eduard ‘Du Noct Nicht!!’ Udet boxing of the Albatros, Dr.I and D.VII. I’m very impressed! For £36 it’s incredibly good value. 3 profi pack kits, excellent decals (7 options!), good lozenge (although I’ve already ordered Aviattic’s replacements - along with their Dr.I streaking set) and a lovely resin pilot (seated) figure. I’m planning on doing Udet’s D.VII but with a lozenge top wing (not the candy stripe) as per WW’s D.VII F boxing, the Albatros - not sure yet, but a camouflaged painted wing/ wood fuselage version (not Udet) and probably the Richthofen half streaked, half red version.

I won’t be leaping into this until after the Spit, but I still can’t help planning this lovely trio.

My first query is replacement guns - of the Gaspatch sets, which is the most appropriate for each aircraft?

Many thanks,

Guy

(https://i.postimg.cc/g0LSLvTK/846763-DC-BFC2-4012-B291-7711-D6-FA178-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rdcCvtcd)
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Monty on January 03, 2021, 12:58:31 AM: This is a very tempting collection, Guy! Some lovely colour schemes and really interesting ... we will definitely follow with great interest! Sorry, can't help much with the machine guns... Regards, Marc
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on January 03, 2021, 02:42:39 AM: Nice choice for a triple build ;D I will certainly follow along. I also will check the Gaspatch site later about the MGs'.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Alexis on January 03, 2021, 02:51:17 AM: Will be following along on this one . Are you going to replace the undercarriage legs on the Albatros D.V ?

The legs are to short .3 mm for the front and 2.5 mm for the rear if my memory severs me well .

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on January 03, 2021, 06:21:23 AM: Thanks Monty ;)

Quote from: RAGIII on January 03, 2021, 02:42:39 AM
Nice choice for a triple build ;D I will certainly follow along. I also will check the Gaspatch site later about the MGs'.
RAGIII

Thanks Rick, just that there’s a heap of options and I can’t really see the difference...

Quote from: Alexis on January 03, 2021, 02:51:17 AM
Will be following along on this one . Are you going to replace the undercarriage legs on the Albatros D.V ?

The legs are to short .3 mm for the front and 2.5 mm for the rear if my memory severs me well .

Alexis

Ah, I didn’t know that Alexis, I did think the Eduard kit didn’t look quite right looking at other peoples’ finished Albatros’s - that’s probably why! Is there a drop in alternative?

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on January 03, 2021, 08:11:25 AM: As for the MGs' Here are the choices that would be appropriate:
1. Albatros: 08/ 15
2. DR1: 08/15 Fokker version ( The Fokker Version comes with the spent shell chutes) These May take Modification to the fuselage area..I am not sure. That being said the same 08/15 used on the Albatros would work also.
3. Fokker DVII: 08/15 with extended handles Fokker Version. Same as the DR1 in that the chutes may cause the need for Mods. So...just the plain 08/15 with extended handles would work. IHTH,
RAGIII

PS: I can't remember the name right now but the same person that makes the corrected fuselage for the Roden Sopwith Triplane made Resin struts and wheels. They look reat and work in as a drop in assembly!
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on January 03, 2021, 09:36:28 AM: ... or you use Master, there is only one variant in 1/48:
http://www.master-model.pl/product/am-48-035.html

But you need to merge the barrels and cooling jackets with the kit parts of the locking case on the back (what I usually do).

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Alexis on January 03, 2021, 10:06:02 AM: Hello Guy ,

Not sure if there is any new after market legs . Many years ago their was a short release from Pheon Models which was included with a decal set . Black Dog Model accessories also did a set , but hard to find now .

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: rayb24 on January 03, 2021, 11:58:00 AM: I think the replacement landing gear struts are the Brian Fawcett ones

Here is his site

http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/home (http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/home)

And here are the struts
http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/1-48-scale-resin-detail-correction-parts (http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/1-48-scale-resin-detail-correction-parts)

Hth’s
Ray
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on January 03, 2021, 12:31:54 PM: Quote from: rayb24 on January 03, 2021, 11:58:00 AM
I think the replacement landing gear struts are the Brian Fawcett ones

Here is his site

http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/home (http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/home)

And here are the struts
http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/1-48-scale-resin-detail-correction-parts (http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/1-48-scale-resin-detail-correction-parts)

Hth’s
Ray

Yep, those are the ones and the Guy I couldn't remember. Pheons were done by Brian. :o
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on January 03, 2021, 07:20:46 PM: Ah many thanks!

That’s really helpful all round, although you have cost me more cash! I’ve ordered the resin struts and wheels (apparently the kit’s are the wrong diameter too :P , 2 pairs of 08/15’s extended handles, 1 pair of Fokker 08/15’s and some resin turnbuckles.

It’s odd isn’t it that I seem to pay more for accessories than I do for kits. I’ve now paid out over twice as much as the boxing! ???

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on January 04, 2021, 06:00:23 AM: Quote from: Gisbod on January 03, 2021, 07:20:46 PM

It’s odd isn’t it that I seem to pay more for accessories than I do for kits. I’ve now paid out over twice as much as the boxing! ???

.....which is why I scratch build my models. Aftermarket parts then become affordable!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Ryan on January 06, 2021, 01:27:51 AM: Hey Guy, Happy New year.

Ryan
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on January 06, 2021, 03:46:46 AM: Hi Ryan!

Yep you too.. let us know what your currently building...

Always a sight for sore eyes!

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: gedmundson on January 06, 2021, 06:16:28 AM: Looks like a nice trio, Guy. Just to add to the other mention of the Albatros D.V kit - the spinner looks a bit fat & bulbous. I've only built the one 1/48 scale Eduard D.V and something looked seriously off. The landing gear & wheels would be the obvious thing to change, but the kit spinner also adds to the "pudgy" look too. I remember building the D.II and D.III, and trimming the spinners down quite a bit to get the right look.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Alexis on January 06, 2021, 07:01:01 AM: Quote from: rayb24 on January 03, 2021, 11:58:00 AM
I think the replacement landing gear struts are the Brian Fawcett ones

Here is his site

http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/home (http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/home)

And here are the struts
http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/1-48-scale-resin-detail-correction-parts (http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/1-48-scale-resin-detail-correction-parts)

Hth’s
Ray

Thats the gentlmens name , thanks Ray !

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on January 06, 2021, 06:03:06 PM: Quote from: gedmundson on January 06, 2021, 06:16:28 AM
Looks like a nice trio, Guy. Just to add to the other mention of the Albatros D.V kit - the spinner looks a bit fat & bulbous. I've only built the one 1/48 scale Eduard D.V and something looked seriously off. The landing gear & wheels would be the obvious thing to change, but the kit spinner also adds to the "pudgy" look too. I remember building the D.II and D.III, and trimming the spinners down quite a bit to get the right look.
Cheers,
Gary

Hi Gary, yes, I thought the same thing - looks like the D.V ate too many pies! Always looked out of whack. Hopefully the undercarriage addresses the worst of it, but don’t see how I could slim down the spinner? If the the spinner is too fat, so must the fuselage.. and with the best will in the world - that becomes a surgical procedure too far for my limited talents!

I had a similar thing with their new SE5a I built recently - the wing ribs were totally overdone, bizarre really, the rest of the kit was like WNW’s in 1/48 but the wings looked like Lego... I paired them back to improve the look, but I will probably build another one for my new cabinet and I’m wondering if the old tooling might even be better? Not the same super detail, but I think I’d rather have more realistic wings! Anyone built the old one? I’d be interested to hear an opinion.

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: gedmundson on January 09, 2021, 05:59:36 AM: Quote from: Gisbod on January 06, 2021, 06:03:06 PM

Hi Gary, yes, I thought the same thing - looks like the D.V ate too many pies! Always looked out of whack. Hopefully the undercarriage addresses the worst of it, but don’t see how I could slim down the spinner? If the the spinner is too fat, so must the fuselage.. and with the best will in the world - that becomes a surgical procedure too far for my limited talents!

I had a similar thing with their new SE5a I built recently - the wing ribs were totally overdone, bizarre really, the rest of the kit was like WNW’s in 1/48 but the wings looked like Lego... I paired them back to improve the look, but I will probably build another one for my new cabinet and I’m wondering if the old tooling might even be better? Not the same super detail, but I think I’d rather have more realistic wings! Anyone built the old one? I’d be interested to hear an opinion.

Guy

Hello Guy - on my kit, the spinner's contour came to meet the fuselage surface exactly - which is wrong. On my D.II and D.III I carefully trimmed down the spinners to be more cone-shaped, reducing the diameter at the widest point by about 1.0mm. It was slow, painful, agonizingly fiddly work with scalpel and sanding sticks. Photos of real aircraft show the fuselage opening to be slightly wider than the spinner, in my opinion.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on January 09, 2021, 05:10:00 PM: Ah I see,

Thanks Gary, amazing they get these things wrong really with accurate scale drawings abound, but unfortunately, you lost me at ‘slow, painful, agonizingly fiddly work’ ??? ;D

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on January 15, 2021, 07:11:10 AM: Evening,

I ordered and paid for the struts & wheels from the Brian Fawcett site, but I’ve heard nothing since?

Just wondered if anyone knew if he’s still active!

Thanks,

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on January 15, 2021, 08:56:13 AM: Quote from: Gisbod on January 15, 2021, 07:11:10 AM

Evening,

I ordered and paid for the struts & wheels from the Brian Fawcett site, but I’ve heard nothing since?

Just wondered if anyone knew if he’s still active!

Thanks,

Guy

If you were actually charged I would think the answer is yes. That being said I haven't ordered from him in about 10 years :o
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on January 15, 2021, 04:42:14 PM: Thanks Rick,

Yes, I was charged - on 3rd January, just that I’ve had no response since. I have emailed him but no reply either.

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: gcn on January 15, 2021, 05:48:15 PM: I bought the Sopwith triplanes fuselage from him in October and whilst there was no communication delivery was prompt.

I was slightly dubious as the web page hadn’t been updated since about 1995, but all was good.

Gary
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on January 16, 2021, 06:54:47 AM: Thanks Gary,

Yes, all good, arrived today! Just there was no confirmation email etc which got me a bit worried for a bit there!

They look excellent replacements, my only worry is the strength, I can see them snapping very easily...

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Alexis on January 16, 2021, 11:25:01 PM: Now worries on the landing gear snapping . They are very robust ;)

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on January 17, 2021, 01:05:05 AM: Ah excellent,

Thanks Alexis

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 03, 2021, 06:03:22 AM: Evening all,

Still decorating the new house (nearly finished ;D), but I should be starting a kit this week (first modelling in 4 months!). I’ve also just received the old Eduard Sopwith Triplane and Pup (thank you Giuseppe) so I now have to decide what to build first. As you may remember, I’ve ordered a glass display cabinet with the intention of filling it with 1/48 kits starting a collection from scratch (it’s a big cabinet!).

I’ve also got the new Eduard Spitfire Mk.I in the queue (lovely kit) so it’s between that and the Triplane/ Fokker/ Pup/ Dr.1/ Albatros... Ooh, choices, choices :D

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: FAf on February 03, 2021, 08:11:08 AM: So many choices... but with your normal build speed I'm sure you will finish them all in short order. Start with... hmm... actually not that easy to advice!

Looking forward to any and all though!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on February 03, 2021, 10:49:15 PM: Nice to have choices 8) Now that you are Moved and have the resin bits I am looking forward to seeing this build get off the ground !
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 04, 2021, 12:27:58 AM: Thanks,

As this topic is the Du Noch Nicht boxing, I probably ought to start with one of those, probably the most straightforward to get me back in the swing of things. So D.VII or Dr.1 ;)

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: gbrivio on February 04, 2021, 06:10:17 PM: The Fokkers are so eyecatching and also straightforward kits. But with my many open, unfinished builds I have very little if anything to say... ;D ;D ;D
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Alexis on February 04, 2021, 11:00:57 PM: D.7 ....nuff said :)

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 05, 2021, 12:44:33 AM: Hi,

Your wish is my command Alexis :D D.VII it is.

I’ve actually made a start! Whatever next ;D

I thought I’d ordered the Aviattic lozenge for the Fokker, but I seem to have the Albatross lozenge instead - which is a slight pain as I’m planning on a non lozenge Albatros! Don’t know how I got mixed up on that. I may order the D.VII one as well, unless anyone wants a swop? Faded. I just opened up the boxing properly to have a pre look, but ended up sticking some wings together.

(https://i.postimg.cc/PfQDT6Rc/FE0-E6093-D75-B-4236-9-D17-75-A27-FCC6483.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qggqGG0X)

The boxing comes with a (rather lovely) seated resin Mr. Udet, specifically for the D.VII and if you choose to use him, there’s a slightly different resin cockpit layout to use also. So although he goes in post build you do need to commit to which option pre build. He’s so nice I’m leaning towards using him?

(https://i.postimg.cc/WzTJ0rhX/AD9-FD591-B899-48-D4-BF2-B-9203-C05953-EC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJpC2XGz)

Anyway, the kit looks really nice. Coloured PE, wheel masks, extensive (really) decal sheet (2 Udet options) with not bad lozenge. Anyone built one?

I think I’m building the red fuselaged one but probably not the candy stripe wing - maybe this one:

(https://i.postimg.cc/j2cnc5fK/730-AE3-CF-15-C9-4-D23-B408-402-AE5685-CB5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xNkdT9gF)

As always, any input most welcome.

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on February 06, 2021, 12:40:25 AM: Nice start. That figure looks awesome! Too bad no one does a decent Udet in 1/32nd scale :-[ I am looking forward to your further progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: FAf on February 06, 2021, 02:45:42 AM: Hi Guy!

Great to see some progress, but I hope it won't stop you from finishing the kitchen. We've lived in our house for 18 years but there are some (some would say a lot) of finishing touches left undone still... Maybe this summer?!

Great choice of livery and everything can be painted if you want to. But then again there is that problem of masking on top of the lozenge.

Looking forward to the rest!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Alexis on February 06, 2021, 03:06:45 AM: See how easy life is when you listen to the Woman ;)

Progress is progress no matter how slow it many seem , before long you will be back into the swing of building and will be turning them out at a fast pace :)

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 06, 2021, 05:28:49 AM: Ah thanks Rick ;)

Quote from: FAf on February 06, 2021, 02:45:42 AM

Great choice of livery and everything can be painted if you want to. But then again there is that problem of masking on top of the lozenge.

/Fredrik

Frederick, yes, but I’m not going to risk masking on lozenge! I’ve tried that before.... I can still mask the fuselage though... ;D

Quote from: Alexis on February 06, 2021, 03:06:45 AM

See how easy life is when you listen to the Woman ;)

Alexis

Alexis, yes excellent advice! ;D I wish I’d learned that earlier in life ???

So I’m having lots of fun already (I really did miss my modelling). The lozenged version of the red fuselaged LO! seems to have had the engine cowlings removed. I was going to go for a simple as possible build, but I do really like this look so I’ve tried my hand at a little surgery... I think it will look quite cool and it might be possible to put the engine in after the main building/ painting process which could be an advantage.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3J2ht5pq/D9359-F59-EF46-42-B0-A26-A-72922600-DA75.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w7xnBrw5)

(https://i.postimg.cc/kg9mZ1vg/C81972-B1-10-E2-42-C2-875-E-09-FC4-D272-BA1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HVSR8tNq)

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on February 06, 2021, 05:40:11 AM: Nice clean work on removing the panels! You are moving right along with this one 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: FAf on February 06, 2021, 04:43:38 PM: Quote

Frederick, yes, but I’m not going to risk masking on lozenge! I’ve tried that before.... I can still mask the fuselage though... ;D

I think that is the sane option! It is good to learn from experience,. I should try that myself some day... 🤪

Good job on the removal of the engine panels.

/Fredrik
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 06, 2021, 06:56:18 PM: Morning all,

I’m suddenly a bit confused... ???

Is the candy stripe wing the same aircraft as the Wingnut Wings camouflaged wing? ie 4253/18? I assumed it was.. but the Eduard boxing has the low exhausts poking out of the central hole in the cowling, whereas the WW instructions show a high mounted (standard) exhaust?

As you may know, I’m not one to be that bothered by total accuracy as long as it looks right! I’d much rather see a beautifully finished model than a ‘correct’ lesser model, I realise you can do both of course! :P

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 08, 2021, 02:00:39 AM: Afternoon all,

A progress update!

I’m quite enjoying 1/48 for a change, big enough to have a bit of detail but small enough that you don’t need to go crazy (unless your name’s Frank). Although, as is my modus operandi - I’ve not added anything at all to the cockpit - The resin figure will all but obliterate any views inside. So out of the box:

(https://i.postimg.cc/7YLCmknV/A2327184-F40-E-44-C3-A283-4129-F2-A2-B68-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/pygXL37h)

(https://i.postimg.cc/SQd26sCR/367-D4-FF9-F3-B2-428-E-8242-44-BA9824-C6-EA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/NLyjYQNv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/VkrJPWT0/C5-C2-F810-F92-E-4761-BDE8-C8620762-DFC4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/G4RLkGbb)

(https://i.postimg.cc/rmJmNnd3/E3-CB949-E-0-AF0-4-B0-F-9-A1-B-D945-EB8-F141-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Q9FhXqJJ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Kj01xqxB/E7-CEA9-DE-19-A5-4-EF3-94-E4-1-B4227737-E84.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/n9QF11sh)

(https://i.postimg.cc/wTb1rGWd/75-A80-BAE-9560-4-D06-9-EA8-6-C9-F02-F0-AED6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rKxy0QXh)

It all went together very nicely.

As far as I can tell the camouflaged and striped wing are the same aircraft? Although I’ve seen the striped wing one labelled as a Fokker and Eduard have it as an OAW versioned D.VII?

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on February 08, 2021, 02:16:01 AM: Quote from: Gisbod on February 06, 2021, 06:56:18 PM

Morning all,

I’m suddenly a bit confused... ???

Is the candy stripe wing the same aircraft as the Wingnut Wings camouflaged wing? ie 4253/18? I assumed it was.. but the Eduard boxing has the low exhausts poking out of the central hole in the cowling, whereas the WW instructions show a high mounted (standard) exhaust?

As you may know, I’m not one to be that bothered by total accuracy as long as it looks right! I’d much rather see a beautifully finished model than a ‘correct’ lesser model, I realise you can do both of course! :P

Guy

Not the same aircraft Guy. The Candy striped wing was either Early Fokker or OAW built, depending on what sources you want to believe. It would have had the downward exhaust either way. The other was a later BMW engined Fokker built bird. IHTH,
RAGIII

PS: Your interior is looking Fantastic!
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 08, 2021, 06:10:42 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on February 08, 2021, 02:16:01 AM

Not the same aircraft Guy. The Candy striped wing was either Early Fokker or OAW built, depending on what sources you want to believe. It would have had the downward exhaust either way. The other was a later BMW engined Fokker built bird. IHTH,
RAGIII

Ah, Rick, that now all makes sense. I think I just made a subconscious assumption that it was the same aircraft with a different wing. Doh.

That puts a bit of a spanner in the works as I’ve now ordered the Aviattic lozenge. So I either now do the candy stripe/ pretend I hadn’t noticed/ use the higher standard exhaust and hope it passes of as an ‘F’/ do a totally different scheme... :P

Was it only his aircraft that had a red fuselage or would it have been Staffel wide?

Chastened Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on February 08, 2021, 06:16:22 AM: Quote from: Gisbod on February 08, 2021, 06:10:42 AM
Quote from: RAGIII on February 08, 2021, 02:16:01 AM

Not the same aircraft Guy. The Candy striped wing was either Early Fokker or OAW built, depending on what sources you want to believe. It would have had the downward exhaust either way. The other was a later BMW engined Fokker built bird. IHTH,
RAGIII

Ah, Rick, that now all makes sense. I think I just made a subconscious assumption that it was the same aircraft with a different wing. Doh.

That puts a bit of a spanner in the works as I’ve now ordered the Aviattic lozenge. So I either now do the candy stripe/ pretend I hadn’t noticed/ use the higher standard exhaust and hope it passes of as an ‘F’/ do a totally different scheme... :P

Was it only his aircraft that had a red fuselage or would it have been Staffel wide?

Chastened Guy

Only Udet and perhaps Heinz Dreckman. If it were My Model I would just do 4253 with standard exhaust and call it good. I do think Roden did a BMW engine so perhaps someone has a spare? If not just dare anyone to notice ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: kensar on February 08, 2021, 10:57:00 PM: A superbly clean interior, Guy. Realistic wood grain on the cockpit floor. Well done.
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Alexis on February 09, 2021, 12:19:47 AM: Following Ken's comments , that is some really nice clean work Guy , pit looks lovely ! :)

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Monty on February 09, 2021, 02:51:42 AM: For an OOTB cockpit that is beautiful, Guy! Whichever Udet colour scheme you eventually choose, it will be great! (Those fine, tiny little details can be fudged!) Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 09, 2021, 04:26:15 AM: Ah,

Thanks Monty, Alexis & Ken ;) that’s kind of you all.

And thank you Rick, that’s helped a lot, I will do the said later camouflaged wing ‘F’ but fudge it with the high exhaust. That’s a perfectly adequate outcome for me! Phew, back on track.

I have started the engine - it looked really good painted, but I tried to tone it down a bit as it was looking too ‘new’ however it then looked too muted, so I’ve stripped it back and started again. I haven’t finished it yet but here was the first attempt:

(https://i.postimg.cc/HkqVY7DZ/60-C8-CE83-DF22-4-DB7-83-DD-0317-E263-C830.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tszXDJgW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QMcVHxjX/7-CDD6-C0-C-A37-C-46-BD-93-EE-693-B321024-B3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mc2Tn4cq)

Note the low exhaust which will now be binned.

Guy

Ps now I’ve seen the picture again, it doesn’t look as bad as I thought! Anyway, it’s been stripped now ::)
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on February 09, 2021, 06:43:53 AM: It seems you are able to show a own style of painting in 1/48, which is a great thing!

Quote from: Gisbod on February 08, 2021, 02:00:39 AM
I’m quite enjoying 1/48 for a change, big enough to have a bit of detail but small enough that you don’t need to go crazy (unless your name’s Frank).
Yes. No one is useless. He can still serve as a bad example. ;)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: hrcoleman66 on February 10, 2021, 07:41:07 AM: "Ps now I’ve seen the picture again, it doesn’t look as bad as I thought! Anyway, it’s been stripped now"

That was a very effective paint job on the engine I thought. And filter or wash would have finished it nicely.

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: gbrivio on February 10, 2021, 04:49:25 PM: Very clean work on your cockpit. I agree with Rick about the engine: if you don't tell is not a BMW, no one will notice. IMHO operative machines could also have their engines changed with different types from time to time...
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 10, 2021, 07:24:52 PM: Thanks,

Hugh, yes, but to be fair it looked better in the photo than in the flesh. The new version will be a bit cleaner cut. I’m tending to draw back a bit from weathering these days. I’ve just decided I like a cleaner look. When I walked around competition tables, I was always drawn to the neat, fresh looking models - subjective I know... that said, I’m always impressed by a beautifully weathered aircraft - but it’s harder than it looks to get absolutely right, and if it’s not quite right, then it spoils a model IMHO.

Thanks Giuseppe, it won’t bother me at all, but I realise it may bother others! Anyway, the whole aim of the exercise is just to look nice in my new display cabinet (coming in April) ;) nothing more.

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: skeeterbuck on February 11, 2021, 12:58:23 AM: Quote from: Gisbod on February 10, 2021, 07:24:52 PM

I’m tending to draw back a bit from weathering these days. I’ve just decided I like a cleaner look. When I walked around competition tables, I was always drawn to the neat, fresh looking models - subjective I know... that said, I’m always impressed by a beautifully weathered aircraft - but it’s harder than it looks to get absolutely right, and if it’s not quite right, then it spoils a model IMHO.

Guy
I had to smile when I read this as it's just the opposite of where I'm at. I used to build trying to make it look pristine and now I strive for the "used but not abused" look. I must agree Guy that the weathering needs to look correct to be convincing which is where the "art" of modelling comes into play. If it's done haphazard, then it looks like sloppy work. I do find it satisfying when I think I've gotten it right. Just goes to show that there's a place for all styles of modelling in our hobby.

Keep up the good work. 8)

Chuck
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 11, 2021, 07:31:55 AM: Hi Chuck,

Yes, I don’t disagree at all. It certainly is an art.

Here’s my engine MkII, I guess most will prefer MkI, but it does look neater on the bench..

Guy

(https://i.postimg.cc/bwmx4Bc0/EC885-C14-DAC6-4-D00-8-D27-80445058-E32-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w1sRmFB3)
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Alexis on February 11, 2021, 07:55:25 AM: Fantastic outcome with the engine Guy :)

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: FAf on February 11, 2021, 08:53:14 PM: Looking good! It is difficult to say which one is better when you only have photos to judge from, so as long as you are happy that's the best outcome!

/Fredrik
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on February 11, 2021, 09:55:04 PM: Your engine looks excellent. Like Fredrik said as long as you are happy with it then it is Great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on February 12, 2021, 04:34:23 AM: Remember that much of the engine will be concealed so if it is not "just right" very few will notice. Similarly with the exhaust - how many observers are going to know? One of the advantages of the True Scale is that it is easier to fudge some of these points - even fewer people notice them!

The cockpit looks really good and the engine likewise.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on February 12, 2021, 05:39:13 AM: ... and the intake pipes are no more brass now ;)
You continued with you own style (this is somehow a "disadvantage" of WNW: if you go to an exhibition, you will see all those perfect build WNW, because already the kit is perfect. So you can't say from viewing a model, who has build it.)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 12, 2021, 06:12:20 AM: Thanks Alexis, Fredrik, Rick, Stephen & Frank ;)

I think you’re spot on there Frank. I quite like seeing a model and knowing who built it.

I know it’s not ‘correct’ but I quite enjoy just painting to please my eye!

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Fvdm on February 13, 2021, 03:47:42 AM: That's a nice clean engine. Great work
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 13, 2021, 06:19:56 AM: Thanks Fvdm ;)

Bit more progress...

Fuselage closed up, no issues, I’ll have to seal the engine in as I think the radiator will need a bit of work to blend in and I’d rather get that done before painting.

(https://i.postimg.cc/GhgVBhs0/FC545625-BCF0-4-E68-9-C00-A0-B8-FCBB09-D2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gnRNQpD4)

(https://i.postimg.cc/8PzxPrcB/5-A085-EF7-2-C07-44-B1-B871-337-D037-FF58-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6TFMMqdy)

The cockpit looks nice, seems a shame to hide it now with the pilot, but I’m sticking with that, as long as he turns out ok, just a dark undercoat with a light overspray to give me something to work on.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vZ1j5FW4/21-C7459-B-F7-FC-41-CC-8946-1-B1-C59-FBAAC1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/21D2ft9Y)

And the Aviattic arrived and looks sumptuous!

(https://i.postimg.cc/sgtLc6cw/C472-F640-705-C-4-AB0-A382-97-CA092-A3005.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SnfVQGHM)

Quick question, it’s so long since I last did it - undercoat colour for the lozenge - white?

Thanks,

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on February 13, 2021, 06:42:44 AM: Wow, what a progress!
Yes, bright colors are needed. I used white with shadows, or off-white, light beige ...

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 13, 2021, 07:05:31 AM: Thanks Frank :)

I thought so.

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on February 13, 2021, 07:28:07 AM: Looking terrific and indeed awesome progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: hrcoleman66 on February 13, 2021, 01:42:19 PM: Those lozenge decals look superb! Imagine not having to deal with rib tapes seperately...

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Alexis on February 13, 2021, 10:46:40 PM: Cheater ;) Not having to do the tapes will save a lot time and frustration . In all Guy , this is reaally starting to shape with nicely indeed :)

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 14, 2021, 03:47:19 AM: Thanks Hugh & Rick ;)

Quote from: Alexis on February 13, 2021, 10:46:40 PM
Cheater ;) Not having to do the tapes will save a lot time and frustration . In all Guy , this is reaally starting to shape with nicely indeed :)

Alexis

If I can find an easy option Alexis, I’m all over it! ;D

Here’s a photo I forgot to post of the cockpit:

(https://i.postimg.cc/PqSYk4fY/17-F5-E659-4489-40-C4-B6-A4-07-ACEBE120-D7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/f30JcY9R)

And no, I’m not doing Hermann Göering’s Fokker, just a light, white under-coat...

(https://i.postimg.cc/vBD98VDj/E2864387-71-E6-4371-86-A5-6982-D5-E5-D8-E3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/S2FjDj67)

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on February 14, 2021, 03:49:46 AM: The interior looks good in place in the closed up fuselage. Glad to hear you haven't changed your mind on schemes 8) Nice smooth primer coat!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: gbrivio on February 14, 2021, 07:17:40 AM: Looking very good so far.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: gedmundson on February 14, 2021, 07:24:52 AM: Love your build on this one Guy - cockpit and engine looking excellent. Is that primer lacquer based? I've tried all kinds and have only had success with decanting the Tamiya grey cans.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on February 14, 2021, 05:55:15 PM: Ah thanks Rick & Giuseppe ;)

Quote from: gedmundson on February 14, 2021, 07:24:52 AM
Love your build on this one Guy - cockpit and engine looking excellent. Is that primer lacquer based? I've tried all kinds and have only had success with decanting the Tamiya grey cans.
Cheers,
Gary

Hi Gary, yes I think so, it cleans up the same as the regular colours anyway.

I can’t praise MRP paints enough, the primer is the finest finish I’ve come across and sprays beautifully out of the bottle.

Got some colour on last night, again MRP, but a home brew mix, I basically tone reds down with a shade of brown.

Guy

(https://i.postimg.cc/VkhS4XM4/E6806-C4-B-D247-4-EDD-86-BA-EBA1-DE7-E6890.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HrQskc67)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9fqDkzY2/3148-FA80-4939-4363-BF64-96-F7514-E79-C8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Y4M2GrPD)
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Colour update
Post by: RAGIII on February 14, 2021, 09:32:28 PM: Your DVII looks great! I Like the red and subtle shading on the ribs of the tail and formers on the fuselage.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Colour update
Post by: Alexis on February 15, 2021, 02:43:28 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on February 14, 2021, 09:32:28 PM
Your DVII looks great! I Like the red and subtle shading on the ribs of the tail and formers on the fuselage.
RAGIII

Second this :)

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Colour update
Post by: Gisbod on February 16, 2021, 11:47:03 PM: Thanks,

On reflection I think the colour’s a bit too medium brown. I think a darker, blood red would have been better, but hey ho!

I got the lower areas lozenged up last night. I thought it would be best to let them properly dry before starting the top layers. Hopefully later today.

Guy

(https://i.postimg.cc/vmTDzrrm/8-F74-C08-A-839-E-4-B36-B1-A2-9-D4655-A3-F753.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Jyw17Bdw)
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Lozenge
Post by: Alexis on February 16, 2021, 11:54:45 PM: Looking good !

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Lozenge
Post by: RAGIII on February 17, 2021, 12:07:09 AM: Your lozenge application looks great! I still like the red 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Lozenge
Post by: Radarman on February 17, 2021, 12:07:24 AM: Guy,
That's a super job you've done with the lozenge. Those rib tapes look great.

Kevin
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Lozenge
Post by: Bughunter on February 17, 2021, 01:13:49 AM: Hmm, I can't see the picture of the lozenge for some reason.
I made a reply to your post to get the image URL - copied into browser directly it was working.

You were able to manage your clear coat, I can't see any small defect below the decal! Well done!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Lozenge
Post by: Gisbod on February 17, 2021, 01:43:29 AM: Thank you Alexis & Rick :D

Quote from: Radarman on February 17, 2021, 12:07:24 AM
Guy,
That's a super job you've done with the lozenge. Those rib tapes look great.

Kevin

Thanks Kevin, but I can’t really take credit for those as they’re printed on - not applied afterwards!

Quote from: Bughunter on February 17, 2021, 01:13:49 AM
Hmm, I can't see the picture of the lozenge for some reason.
I made a reply to your post to get the image URL - copied into browser directly it was working.

You were able to manage your clear coat, I can't see any small defect below the decal! Well done!

Cheers,
Frank

Thanks Frank, if you like it, it can’t be half bad!

Yes, for some reason I couldn’t see the pictures either, but they seem to be back.. a little glitch somehow?

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Lozenge
Post by: fredjocko on February 17, 2021, 01:55:42 AM: This looks really nice!! I really like the shade of red. It really pops!
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Lozenge
Post by: Gisbod on February 18, 2021, 03:11:23 AM: Thanks for the vote of confidence Fred :)

Pushing along nicely now, decals on, lozenge done, Gaspatch MG’s, just really putting all the subsections together - a lot can go wrong here, I know from experience! The locating points for the struts don’t look particularly positive, especially the inboard ones.

But, here she is so far:

(https://i.postimg.cc/DwjWNYp3/AB9-F60-E5-512-D-4310-88-B5-B68637578297.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXmTJgS6)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qvMhjdLG/E0-AD1-E02-4501-4124-8237-3-AF35-B8-DD0-FE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/N5SjjSZy)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Kvbg3T3w/89-DCE5-A5-84-AD-4-ECF-951-B-0-B1-DACFAD2-D8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/qgm79zLx)

Thanks,

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Decals
Post by: RAGIII on February 18, 2021, 03:26:40 AM: Even Better with the markings applied! Such a beautiful scheme and so well done. Clean and neat painting and decal application...things I still strive for at times!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Decals
Post by: Bughunter on February 18, 2021, 03:54:33 AM: Incredible!
With the equation speed * quality you beat records here because both factors are high ;)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Decals
Post by: Alexis on February 18, 2021, 06:24:18 AM: Do you ever sleep ?

If you don't trust the strut joins , pinning them will add extra strength .

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Decals
Post by: Gisbod on February 18, 2021, 07:16:26 AM: Thank you again!

Quote from: Alexis on February 18, 2021, 06:24:18 AM
Do you ever sleep ?

If you don't trust the strut joins , pinning them will add extra strength .

Alexis

Er... I’m not the one with 4 builds on the go Alexis! ;D

Yes, I did consider pinning, but the attachment points are tiny, so would have their own issues :P

Quote from: Bughunter on February 18, 2021, 03:54:33 AM
Incredible!
With the equation speed * quality you beat records here because both factors are high ;)

Cheers,
Frank

I’m never in a race Frank, it just seems my natural pace!

Thanks again Rick, your builds are great!

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Decals
Post by: Gisbod on February 19, 2021, 04:06:08 AM: Hello all,

Last update, she’s almost done, just the final photos to take.

Tbh, the final furlong has been a pita! I’ve had a nightmare. Everything that could go wrong went wrong!

1. MG’s broke off
2. Dropped a blob off thinner on the fuselage - re paint
3. My ghostly joint line appeared on the spine (wasn’t there before - this seems to happen a lot) - re paint
4. Knocked off the rudder
5. Overspray red on the engine - re paint
6. Nightmare getting the top wing on - you’d never guess I’ve been modelling for nearly 50 years! (started at 5)
7. Broke the top wing off handling - twice
8. Put the hairdryer on the undercarriage to tighten up the rigging - melted one leg
9. Broke the undercarriage off rigging
10. Broke the tail skid off

But apart from that - went like a dream! Maybe I’m just a bit rusty having not modelled for about 4 months ::). Anyway, she was a hair’s breadth from going in the bin on a few occasions, but survived - just.

It’s such a shame, I so love WW1 and Wingnut kits are a doddle, but I do seem to struggle with anything else, I was going to make the Pup next, but maybe the Spitfire would be more sensible...

Here are the last bench shots - Ernst is looking a bit ropey, maybe he’s drunk, but figure painting is a whole other skill set. I only paint one once in a blue moon and then wonder why they’re not very good!

On the plus side, it does actually look ok now from a distance. My new criteria is will it look ok in the cabinet - will I be able to peer in and to think, yes it looks ok, not under magnification or under a zoom lens. I’m lowering my expectations over builds, I think I have to or have an empty cabinet...

Thanks for following along. I’ll use this thread to do the Fokker Tripe and Albatros shortly.

Guy

(https://i.postimg.cc/s2jnCRGX/09063577-9-E88-4324-872-D-4776-A0-FC0998.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hXY8V6rW)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y9jbjf3B/4-B1-A8564-1-D7-E-45-CA-9970-C22-C611-F2-FEC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xJDK4mh6)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d055qSG9/FD6-B7030-E638-4275-B5-AB-E46-A555-B5483.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/f30cCC23)
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Final Update
Post by: Bughunter on February 19, 2021, 04:42:57 AM: Again such big progress (despite the setbacks!) and a nicely painted figure!

At least point 10. I know! My tail skid of the Leusch-Fokker (built during the Memorial Group Build) brakes also in a late state. I replaced it with a wooden one. Mounting of the upper wing was not easy too ...

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Final Update
Post by: RAGIII on February 19, 2021, 06:43:32 AM: In spite of how frustrating your setbacks must have been I found Myself Laughing. It reminded Me of a review build I did for Internet Modeler of the Roden SE5a. :o Whatever could go wrong at My own doing went wrong. Your recovery and end results to date was an excellent feat of Modeling! Really looks great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Final Update
Post by: Radarman on February 19, 2021, 08:07:58 AM: Looking fantastic, Guy. I love the Udet figure.

Kevin
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Final Update
Post by: Gisbod on February 19, 2021, 05:27:16 PM: Quote from: Bughunter on February 19, 2021, 04:42:57 AM

At least point 10. I know! My tail skid of the Leusch-Fokker (built during the Memorial Group Build) brakes also in a late state. I replaced it with a wooden one. Mounting of the upper wing was not easy too ...

Cheers,
Frank

Only 1 Frank? Keep up!

Quote from: RAGIII on February 19, 2021, 06:43:32 AM
In spite of how frustrating your setbacks must have been I found Myself Laughing. It reminded Me of a review build I did for Internet Modeler of the Roden SE5a. :o Whatever could go wrong at My own doing went wrong. Your recovery and end results to date was an excellent feat of Modeling! Really looks great!
RAGIII

Thanks Rick, yes, it’s meant to be an enjoyable hobby, but I certainly turned the air blue a couple of times!

Glad you like him Kevin, just don’t look too closely!

Here’s a quick teaser shot... full pictures in the ready for inspection section today!

(https://i.postimg.cc/GpTjChhb/27-C651-C3-CD86-420-D-829-C-6-DB0779-B32-FB.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jWKf6T71)

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Picture
Post by: Bughunter on February 19, 2021, 07:19:56 PM: Fantastic work!

If you want to continue in that build speed:
Have you already ordered a second display case? Delivery times are not short.
;D

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Picture
Post by: Gisbod on February 19, 2021, 08:04:57 PM: Ha!

It’s a big cabinet Frank.. 1.2m x 1.0m with 7 shelves!

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Picture
Post by: gbrivio on February 19, 2021, 10:56:26 PM: Beautiful finishing, this livery looks even better then the candy stipes, with lozenge fabric wings balancing the brightness of the red fuselage. The figure is top class!
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Picture
Post by: RAGIII on February 19, 2021, 11:46:39 PM: Lovely results and the figure looks terrific!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Picture
Post by: Alexis on February 20, 2021, 01:11:01 AM: Really !!! already done :o

Alexis
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Picture
Post by: hrcoleman66 on February 20, 2021, 06:30:26 AM: Nicely done. The figure looked real at first glance. I was almost going to ask whether you had photoshopped him in.

Cheers,

Hugh
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Picture
Post by: phil2015 on February 20, 2021, 09:19:12 AM: Very nice. Did the pilot slide in easily after all the other stuff in the cockpit is done without breaking anything? I have an Eduard DVa kit with a pilot and am wondering whether that is a thing to worry about...
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Picture
Post by: Gisbod on February 20, 2021, 06:35:18 PM: Thank you all ;D

Quote from: hrcoleman66 on February 20, 2021, 06:30:26 AM
Nicely done. The figure looked real at first glance. I was almost going to ask whether you had photoshopped him in.

Cheers,

Hugh

You need some new glasses Hugh!

Quote from: phil2015 on February 20, 2021, 09:19:12 AM

Very nice. Did the pilot slide in easily after all the other stuff in the cockpit is done without breaking anything? I have an Eduard DVa kit with a pilot and am wondering whether that is a thing to worry about...

He is designed to fit in afterwards, but it did feel like I was about to break something.. so I opted to give him a ‘Douglas Bader’ - and surgically remove his legs below the knee (you can’t see his feet anyway) and he slipped in beautifully!

Guy
Title: Re: Eduard’s Udet’s Trio ‘Du Noch Nicht!!’ 1/48 *Picture
Post by: Fvdm on March 01, 2021, 02:52:29 AM: She looks great despite the setbacks. The lozenge looks fantastic. Well done