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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: TimDEFR on December 09, 2020, 11:40:20 PM
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Hello everyone,
All the fantastic builds around here motivated me to have a try and do an "under construction" report on my Nieuport XVII. I received the kit yesterday and right now, I'm simply amazed by its beauty. After a long back and forth I opted for the Nungesser scheme (which you see on the box) even though I'm still not 100% decided and there's a slight chance I might switch to Herbelin.
(https://i.imgur.com/DWSOy87.jpg)
I kicked off with the usual chores, namely cutting, cleaning, and sanding and, in this special case, a lot of micro-drilling for rigging and air intakes. The wire in the photo is not the actual rigging but just a place holder to prevent the holes from clogging during the paint job. Oh and sorry, I promise to clean my clamp before I take the next photos ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/B5ndjOg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BhpTnm8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QjPLuNU.jpg)
The ammunition box needed some filling to cover the seem.
(https://i.imgur.com/6WD3UZ1.jpg)
This is actually the first time I do a model in aluminum / silver dope, so I experimented a bit with different colors and mixtures and I think I found my favorite. What you see in the photo is:
a) 1:1 Tamiya XF16 & Tamyia XF2
b) 4:3 Mr. Metal Aluminum & Mr. Color Skygrey
c) 1:1 Mr. Metal Aluminum & Mr. Color Skygrey (which weirdly turned out more shiny than the mix above with a higher share of aluminum...)
d) 5:4 Mr. Metal Aluminum & Mr. Surfacer White (didn't have any real lacquer white on hand)
e) 4:3 Tamiya XF16 & Tamyia XF2
f) 5:3 Mr. Metal Aluminum & Mr. Color White
(https://i.imgur.com/qKTgjHL.jpg)
So far for now, next on the list is priming and some carpentry work aka wood grain :)
Have a great day,
Tim
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I'm a fan of b and f for the aluminum and e for the dope. To me the other Tamiya options are just a little TOO flat.
Steve
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Will be tagging along on your project Tim .
As for the alum , I don't use the brands that you mentioned . I use Vallejo Metal Coats . White alum over a light grey base for dope areas and alum for metal over a gloss black base . Agree with Steve the Tamiya alum is to flat and grainy .
Terri
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Hey guys,
Thanks for your feedback. Happy to hear we agree on the color choices :D I am between e and f. I have to admit it's even more difficult to tell from the photos than in real life (except for options a & d which I find too flat). For the cowling, I will most likely use just Mr. Metal aluminum without anything added to it.
That's all in the future anyway, I'm currently thinking about another test to hit the 4 wood options that are mentioned in the instructions ;D
Best,
Tim
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Lovely start, Tim! Love your macro photography.. the fine hairy stuff is scary... like the colour e myself... Regards, Marc.
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Outstanding start and great Mods on a Terrific kit!
RAGIII
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Hey everyone,
Thanks, Marc & RAG, for your feedback. I haven't been as busy this weekend as I originally planned to be but neither haven't been completely idle. I mostly painted some applications on parts that will receive the wood grain later as my hand isn't the most steady and I'd rather clean oils from acrylics than the other way around.
(https://i.imgur.com/tUSKdfp.jpg)
As you see I also started the internal rigging. Despite having some sinfully expensive Gaspatch turnbuckles lying around, I prefer using brass tubes without eyelets because I have a hard time lining the former properly up with the rigging wire and I'm a bit whiny about this. So I rather prefer this simplified version but having the wires nice and straight ;D P.S.: I have no idea why the French blue turned out so dark on the photo -and I tried multiple times- but it's actually just common XF-18 middle blue and looks much better in reality.
I also painted some of the metallic parts and I'm quite happy with how they turned out (despite being a bit too pristine at the moment).
(https://i.imgur.com/hyIK6wg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/incWvsN.jpg)
So far for today, enjoy your weekend!
Tim
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Progress is progress and she is looking nice with that firewall :)
Terri
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Your painting is superb! I am envious of your clean technique! I also am impressed by the induction pipes. I have struggled with that assembly on all three of My CSM builds!
RAGIII
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Nice progress. Your metallics look real nice.
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Beautiful work here Tim! Following this closely.
Cheers,
Gary
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Some great work, Tim! I'm following carefully.. Marc.
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Very neat and tidy!!
Steve
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8)
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Very nice clean work there Tim, well done. Regards, Pete in RI
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Love it!!
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Hello,
First things first: Thanks to everyone for your encouraging feedback and nice words. I'm really enjoying this community and I'm simply stunned and motivated by all the great work I'm seeing here.
Back to the Nieuport: I'm mostly done with the internal woodworks and what a hassle it was. CSM advises four different wood tones in their manual (spruce, walnut, plywood, and poplar) which is fairly beyond my comfort zone of one dark and one light wood tone. But I'm getting ahead...
This is before the oil paint massacre began (at least for all parts except for one)
(https://i.imgur.com/bZHaT1L.jpg)
So while I haven't done the poplar part yet (which is the only the headrest anyway), I tried to vary a bit between spruce (The "framework" with the rigging) and plywood (anything else). In the end, I had the tonal variations a little bit too subtle and they look very similar (not to say identical).
(https://i.imgur.com/XyNvK5I.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XwHUa0i.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dauVWCY.jpg)
Quite happy with the walnut tone. Parts are a bit shiny at the moment as I glossed them for washes but my girlfriend will arrive in a couple of minutes to end my modeling ambitions for the weekend ::).
So far from my side, have a nice weekend everyone!
Best,
Tim
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Awesome painting. I Like the light plywood colors!
RAGIII
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Tim, those wood tones look quite good to me. Nicely done. Carry on!
Best regards,
Bob
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Nice work, the different wood tones looks great.
Beside you work your quality pictures shows also the quality of that CSM kit, hope for more 1/48 kits from this model forge.
Cheers,
Frank
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Your woodwork looks great. I like the different colors. Wel done
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Oh, those are nice wood tones Tim! Looking good! "Oil paint massacre..." feel that a lot myself! But your progress is good and your work neat and convincing... Regards, Marc.
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Excellent work. Taking on the challenge of several tones is one thing but getting them right is another. You have certainly accomplished that!
Steve
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Very nice progress and to echo everyone else, your wood looks fantastic!!
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@ Rag, Bob, Monty, Frank, Steve, Fred and fdvm: thank you for your kind words on the wood. They were quite encouraging as I was a bit skeptical about that part of mixing too many tones.
Beside you work your quality pictures shows also the quality of that CSM kit, hope for more 1/48 kits from this model forge.
I fully agree, the kit is simply excellent, smartly engineered with stunning details. I think CSM is on par with WNW et al. and I if they would release any other 1:32 kit I would definitely buy it *wink*
Happy Christmas everyone!
Best regards,
Tim
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Hey guys,
I hope everyone spent some quality time over Christmas. I surely did and finally managed to put some parts together and finished the Nieuport's interior. The kit fits super well but as with WNW you really have to make sure you clean the connecting surfaces of any paint.
(https://i.imgur.com/JrOVd1L.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/h1wQzQr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0UXhUIo.jpg)
The internal rigging is quite a highlight on this kit and while it is relatively straight forward it got a bit fiddly here and there because of lacking space (control strings are not on tension on the photo).
(https://i.imgur.com/JFQXaXD.jpg)
And here we go with the final part. Once I fitted this with the fuselage, I will mark up some of the spots where the painting suffered from handling. Otherwise, I'm quite happy with the result. The only thing I would make different is to give the wooden parts a very thin layer of clear orange/yellow as they turned out a bit pale after receiving the matte coating.
(https://i.imgur.com/j6yXnt1.jpg)
Have a great day!
Best, Tim
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Hello Tim ,
I stop using a flat clear of my wood tones and moved up to a semi gloss instead . It blends the tones better giving the effect a more natural appearance , even if I don't use a tinted clear coat .
Love the different variations you have with your wood effect , it all flows together wonderfully . Awesome job on getting the pit together , even in this scale she is a little tight .
Alexis
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Looks like a lot of detail in a very small space.
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Thanks for your feeback, Alexis and Kensar!
I stop using a flat clear of my wood tones and moved up to a semi gloss instead . It blends the tones better giving the effect a more natural appearance , even if I don't use a tinted clear coat .
I will definitely try this on the remaining woodparts. Makes sense that wood treated with oils etc. would have some sort of shine to it.
Best,
Tim
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Great looking interior, the rigging is outstanding!
RAGIII
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Great looking cockpit Tim. There's a lot of rigging in that little cockpit :)
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Quite stunning work, Tim! Some lovely detail in the cockpit. The light wood colour is very effective actually, and probably a great idea as cockpits tend to be quite dark... and the light colour brings it to life. Nice to see this take such lovely shape... Regards, Marc.
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Catching up - great work. Love all the wood tones and precise assembly
Steve
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Very nice work all around the cockpit.
PS. I suggest you trying again those Gaspatch turnbuckles. IMHO they can be well aligned with the cable if you use the tube for the cable returned from the eyelet.