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Title: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 06, 2020, 06:02:59 AM
Hi all,

I found this on my doorstep this afternoon:


(https://i.postimg.cc/6Qzz9L8B/8-C72-CD4-A-EB76-4-E0-D-A1-DF-FD3-E142229-A9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJg0jRhG)



Sent by the magazine I occasionally write for. The Editor wants a quick build (!) so I’m interrupting my stash rota to accommodate - I’m nice like that  ;D

I won’t review it to death as it must be the most reviewed model release of all time... suffice to say that, as others have mentioned, you get the impression of a beautiful Wingnut’s kit boxed in an imposter format with fake instructions/ decals etc. I’ve been lucky in as much that my cockpit coaming attached to the middle wing is still in situ despite the very fragile connection. As for wing warping - I think mine are a little warped but I probably wouldn’t have noticed if I hadn’t checked:


(https://i.postimg.cc/0Q2WmXT6/2-B8038-AD-8-A88-4143-BD63-8-A3-E75-CDA1-C8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/McNmJ5Kx)


(https://i.postimg.cc/zGC0Q15b/2-D4-E6506-C435-45-EB-A7-F6-1926-B4-D24106.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvJRK2v0)


Quite a lot in the box!


(https://i.postimg.cc/BbPCcrMv/60099138-4-FB1-49-D9-A037-CF8-CF6938-F40.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2LmvCKpp)


The instructions seem perfectly ok - but obviously, I haven’t tried them in anger yet, but clearly a poor relation to Wingnuts.


(https://i.postimg.cc/j55cCwfP/42-F90-E19-F275-4-BD8-B3-A3-76560-D0-C4387.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FfM3BKDH)


I’m tempted by these Montex assisted schemes. I think this is the fore runner:


(https://i.postimg.cc/2824L8zx/153-EF573-AD6-E-45-DE-B6-E7-EF5-A3752-A1-ED.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)


Followed by maybe this:


(https://i.postimg.cc/9Q0yd50H/9-CC6596-C-5257-4401-8-EA2-73-DFD4478-DBF.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)


I’m looking forward to work out how best to replicate the streaking...


At the bottom of the box (literally) he’d put in the new 1/32 ICM Stearman - no kit box. And mighty fine she looks too! What a super model subject with so many beautiful schemes!


(https://i.postimg.cc/sDGCL1vn/6-AFDF3-AC-8534-4023-9637-3-E9-DDD08-DBA3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/crWzgx7Y)


(https://i.postimg.cc/XNz0x97G/3-D887-D84-E951-4201-89-A5-A6-D3-D300-E31-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/w3LPjyNg)



Hopefully some progress to post soon.


Cheers,



Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: smperry on September 06, 2020, 06:31:36 AM
Guy
For all the ballyhooing about the middle wing on this kit, thanks for posting the first clear picture of the part that I have seen. I can see where that could easily break. I can also see how easy it would be to fix. What all the fuss tells me is that it is a great kit, otherwise there would be complaints about serious issues.
Good luck with your build.
sp
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Alexis on September 06, 2020, 09:21:21 AM
Looking forward on seeing this unfold  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Dave Brewer on September 06, 2020, 10:04:23 AM
Me too Terri,but desperately trying to resist the temptation to adjust my build schedule at the moment, since mine arrived.Maybe I can sneak it in if Guy finds it a straightforward project.
Cheers,
Dave.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Jammed Vickers on September 06, 2020, 11:09:16 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing your progress with it.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Europapete on September 06, 2020, 11:56:15 PM
Hi Guy, best get some Aviattic decals for the streaking. They do some nice photo etch too. Regards, Pete in RI
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: RAGIII on September 07, 2020, 01:06:54 AM
I am really looking forward to your build of this kit! Mine has not yet arrived so I will certainly get some tips from your processes!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 07, 2020, 01:24:53 AM
Thanks  :)


Hi Guy, best get some Aviattic decals for the streaking. They do some nice photo etch too. Regards, Pete in RI

Hi Pete, Yes they look great, but I’m still tempted to try and paint it.. I worry about the decal on the scalloped trailing edges  :-\  I see they do a ‘cookie cut’ set for the Roden kit, but I don’t know how well that would fit? Any thoughts?


I’ve spent a hour or so getting the parts off the sprue and cleaned up for the initial paint run:



(https://i.postimg.cc/nL2Y8623/F573-C47-D-2-C21-432-E-B97-F-ABF2-E82002-ED.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kVVtKYkS)



Guy

Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: gedmundson on September 07, 2020, 03:56:34 AM
Lovely to see you tackle this one, Guy! Mine arrived on Friday, so I'll be watching your build very closely indeed. Could you share with us the magazine it will eventually be in?
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 07, 2020, 04:05:46 AM
Thanks Gary,



Lovely to see you tackle this one, Guy! Mine arrived on Friday, so I'll be watching your build very closely indeed. Could you share with us the magazine it will eventually be in?
Cheers,
Gary


It will be Scale Aviation Modeller or the sister magazine - Scale Aircraft Modeller... as long as I don’t b*lls it up!


Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: FAf on September 07, 2020, 06:45:29 AM
Of course you should paint everything! Decals, that's cheating! 😀

No but seriously, there's a challenge that I like in trying to paint the streaking. I'm pulling up a chair and will follow your build closely.

Cheers
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: RAGIII on September 07, 2020, 08:27:48 AM
Of course you should paint everything! Decals, that's cheating! 😀

No but seriously, there's a challenge that I like in trying to paint the streaking. I'm pulling up a chair and will follow your build closely.

Cheers
/Fredrik

When I get to mine I think I am going to paint the Meng kit and use Richards beautiful decals on the Roden kit  ;D I am looking forward to seeing your, not You, Streaking  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: AlbertD on September 07, 2020, 09:58:20 AM
With all the reviews and comments about this kit it will be great to see one built. When I finally get to mine I'll be painting the streaking for the first time. I worry the decals would be too hard to make look realistic.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: FAf on September 07, 2020, 03:08:45 PM
When I get to mine I think I am going to paint the Meng kit and use Richards beautiful decals on the Roden kit  ;D I am looking forward to seeing your, not You, Streaking  8)
RAGIII

Who knows what pushes you over the edge?! It could be that streaking leads to streaking...   :D ::) Aviattic might be the sane  option?! [EDIT: sane not same]
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 07, 2020, 09:54:29 PM
I thought you would have this finished by now!

 ::) ::) ::)

Looking forward to seeing your rapid progress.
Cheers,
Bob
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 08, 2020, 05:55:28 PM
With all the reviews and comments about this kit it will be great to see one built. When I finally get to mine I'll be painting the streaking for the first time. I worry the decals would be too hard to make look realistic.


Yep, me too!



I thought you would have this finished by now!

 ::) ::) ::)

Looking forward to seeing your rapid progress.
Cheers,
Bob



I can see I’m getting a reputation Bob!


I am impressed so far - definitely Wingnuts quality. It’s the perfect kit really; beautifully moulded, easy WW1 kit, great subject - that will sell. It does make you wonder why they didn’t crack out kits like these rather than the eclectic subjects like the UWD.

I’ve started to colour in some of the cockpit parts:



(https://i.postimg.cc/YST49MSb/A43-F187-F-D29-F-41-D9-B0-A9-84394278908-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWdfpVLX)



Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: GazzaS on September 08, 2020, 07:38:29 PM
Nice and quick start, Guy!
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Mike Norris on September 08, 2020, 07:53:20 PM
There's some nice detailing on the parts.
The linen 'bulkhead' behind the seat - that's great with the shoulder straps attached to the frame rail.

Mike

(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/FOKKER-DR.1/seatstrap.jpg)
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Alexis on September 08, 2020, 09:55:21 PM
Really nice job on the rear panel Guy  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: eclarson on September 08, 2020, 11:31:38 PM
IMHO, the best way to replicate the Fokker streaking is the way the real ones were done - paint applied with broad brushes.  My first attempt at a WWI aircraft was a 1/48 DML Fokker Dr.1 and after studying photos of the real ones decided I'd take a crack at the streaking with artists oil paints.  It took several tries before I got results I could live with but I learned a lot about working with oil paints in the process which led to success I've had doing wood effects with them.   I used Olive Green oil paint over Lifecolor acrylics.

(https://i.imgur.com/A2ihWHW.jpg)

Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: macsporran on September 09, 2020, 12:59:09 AM
Have you tried fitting the lower wing as yet, Guy? Worth trying it before you close everything up.
On mine, the fuselage to wing joint is quite clumsy. Not too bad on the port side, but the starboard required a lot of fettling and trimming to get the wing spar to bed down properly into the fuselage slot. Nothing any modeller couldn't handle, but just one of the small areas that perhaps a final revision of the moulds would have picked up.
Sandy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 09, 2020, 01:13:32 AM
Thanks  :D

Eric, thanks for that  :). I’m going to experiment first I think. I have a notion of how it may look with an airbrush, but I’m planning on using a test card with airbrush against oils (brush applied). The decals are quite pricey, but I may resort to that if I’m not happy with the initial experiments. I did do Fokker steaking using oils on my 1/28 Revell build, which was ok, but I wasn’t blown away with the results...



(https://i.postimg.cc/MT11SjXP/IMG-1033.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LY6Jk5tL)



Mike - Thanks for the picture, that shows the area well...


So I’m a bit further along. I’m not really intending to add much - out of the box effectively - only the control run wires. The belts are (I’m ashamed to say) generic Luftwaffe WW2  ::) In my defence, they do look very similar to the kit PE belts, but these sure are pretty being pre coloured. My apologies to the purists.


The fit so far is excellent and I’m really enjoying myself. Almost time to close up...



(https://i.postimg.cc/v86xxgFM/336-F3-E87-32-AC-4-F21-9-C28-A1-DA3-E1599-EE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1NH2KHn)



I’ve tried to add some kind of patina to the ammunition box - it looked a bit stark being just aluminium:




(https://i.postimg.cc/63F71wZD/883851-FA-F2-F6-48-D1-AA42-9890-D2-A6-C7-B0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2bF8Vs2w)


(https://i.postimg.cc/0y9z4V62/880-BB95-A-EAE1-49-A2-8-AC0-506-B5807-E481.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hf34zbbH)


(https://i.postimg.cc/PrWLKg5R/6-D6-E0335-62-F5-42-C9-AB4-F-B0482-DBBE237.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3dwJxbpX)


(https://i.postimg.cc/pXbhfWRj/735-D8-B7-D-B8-A2-4-C3-B-928-A-49290-FF1-E329.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nM2hZtsV)


(https://i.postimg.cc/qqnNPYXg/CF45-CD37-97-A5-402-F-95-E9-5-D5-F069420-E4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rRVyWfHL)





Have you tried fitting the lower wing as yet, Guy? Worth trying it before you close everything up.
On mine, the fuselage to wing joint is quite clumsy. Not too bad on the port side, but the starboard required a lot of fettling and trimming to get the wing spar to bed down properly into the fuselage slot. Nothing any modeller couldn't handle, but just one of the small areas that perhaps a final revision of the moulds would have picked up.
Sandy


Sandy, just saw your post as I type. Many thanks, I will do that. I haven’t fitted anything yet.


Any top tips for how to straighten the wings? Hot water?



Thanks,


Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: macsporran on September 09, 2020, 01:56:38 AM
Hi Guy
So far, I've only bent the wings with gentle hand pressure, but that seems quite sufficient to straighten them out. I'll leave them for a few days to see if they stay fixed. If not a little hot water should be all that's needed.
Lovely job you're making of yours. Not sure what version I'll make - probably the appropriate model for the WNW MvR decals in the Alb box.
I'll keep following your progress with great interest.
Cheers
Sandy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Flute on September 09, 2020, 02:13:41 AM
If you go the streaky decal route, Richard of Aviattic is redesigning his set to fit the Meng kit (and will include instrument decals) according to his Facebook page. I have a set for the Roden kit (because there was a tiny fault and he was selling them really, really cheap) just so I can say I've done it. His decals are brilliant but I normally paint streaky camo, and once you get into it it's kind of therapeautic..............

Paul.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: RAGIII on September 09, 2020, 02:14:48 AM
Your painting of the interior and subsequent assembly looks awesome! I am glad I am almost finished with the SPADs as your build is tempting me to add another Dual Build to MY current one.!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: RichieW on September 09, 2020, 05:02:21 AM
Following this with great interest now I'm back, the interior looks amazing. I have one on back order so you are showing the way!
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: rhallinger on September 09, 2020, 08:03:46 AM
Guy, your finishes look amazingly real.  What paints are you using and how are they applied?  Beautiful work thus far.

Best,

Bob
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Whiteknuckles on September 09, 2020, 08:36:24 AM
Lovely work Guy :)

Andrew
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: AlbertD on September 09, 2020, 09:35:26 AM
Looking great so far. Thanks for taking the time to share your build.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Alexis on September 09, 2020, 10:03:38 AM
Awesome Guy !


Terri
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: pepperman42 on September 09, 2020, 11:40:38 AM
Definitely worth following along!!

Steve
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Early Bird Fan on September 09, 2020, 04:41:50 PM
that interior looks so real, awesome bit of painting/detail work
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 09, 2020, 09:35:59 PM
Thanks Bob, Albert, Andrew, Terri, Steve, Paul Sandy Rick & Early Bird! :)


Guy, your finishes look amazingly real.  What paints are you using and how are they applied?  Beautiful work thus far.

Best,

Bob


Thanks Bob,

I’m a total convert to MRP - spray like silk and never fail through the airbrush. No thinning required, just a smooth, consistent finish. Highly recommended.


I’m having a couple of issues. The join along the base of the fuselage isn’t even. Which isn’t letting me use the insert seam (with the stitching) it should be easy to fix, but for some reason I struggled - and ended up using a strip of plastic card. Don’t know if others have found this? Or is it just me...



(https://i.postimg.cc/50QVmKzt/AE157-F44-B4-D3-4362-805-D-CE6-DCA9-E2720.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vgykYz3R)


Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: RAGIII on September 09, 2020, 10:25:38 PM
Is this assembly like the Fokker DVII in that you do not glue the bottom seam until after inserting the strip with the stitching? Thanks for the heads up on the potential issue!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 10, 2020, 03:57:32 AM
Thanks Rick,

It didn’t mention that, but the real issue was that the join line inside the trench was totally uneven- don’t know how that could happen, probably me. I’d be interested to see if anyone else has that issue...

Here she is with a light coat of primer on. I’m going to have to paint it all separately which I hate doing, but think that will be the only way due the masking required on the fuselage.


Guy



(https://i.postimg.cc/Kc0Jr7b6/6-BE800-E5-6739-4255-8-DC6-B736-B0-A4-C348.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/vD6rGVch)



Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: RAGIII on September 10, 2020, 04:54:25 AM
Really looking great! I just picked up Mine about an hour ago. I am excited to see your progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: FAf on September 10, 2020, 06:49:32 AM
Guy, great work so far! Postal delivery on its way...
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: gedmundson on September 10, 2020, 07:04:46 AM
Your build is progressing well, Guy. Excellent work on the interior. How did you end up bending your wings to make them straight?
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Alexis on September 10, 2020, 09:50:28 AM
Very sweet indeed , excellent progress Guy  :) Eduard did the same on their 48 scale kite with the lacing and that needed some trimming and sanding as well .


Terri

Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 10, 2020, 08:50:27 PM
Thanks guys,


Your build is progressing well, Guy. Excellent work on the interior. How did you end up bending your wings to make them straight?
Cheers,
Gary



Gary - they were more warped than I at first thought, so they definitely did need bending. I dunked them in hot (not boiling) water for a few minutes, then bent them to shape with my hands - I then put them on a flat surface - board on top - then weighted them down for a bit. They now look straight to my eye. Hopefully any minor corrections will be ironed out with fixing in situ with the struts.


I thought I’d have a bash at the streaking next. I painted the base linen, then used the airbrush to build up the streaking effect. I limited the needle’s movement rearwards so I didn’t get a ‘splurge’ of paint and used a low pressure (not an issue with the MRP paints). Obviously it won’t be as neat as the Aviattic decal option, but I thought I’d at least try before going down that route.

I’m quite happy with the results, they look better in the flesh than the photos. I think I’ll stick with what I’ve got.



Guy




(https://i.postimg.cc/RVbFfLRp/43-E5-C6-E1-350-E-4027-8-CF5-E1-A7782-A3-CA6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kBKqP8LW)


(https://i.postimg.cc/6pkpb6Fd/8-AC53-CB1-ABDA-4-F48-82-C9-4415666-F2648.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bZRPsPyJ)


(https://i.postimg.cc/HkcLt8vY/DB67-E27-A-1-C52-4-BA4-96-CC-8-ECC9217-F414.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nXxZFrtg)


(https://i.postimg.cc/5Nty6RwF/6150-D7-CA-2282-417-F-8-FEB-5-DFA24789-AAE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXT4Px1V)
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Alexis on September 10, 2020, 09:01:08 PM
You know , your airbrush work on the streaking is top notch !


Terri
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: gedmundson on September 10, 2020, 09:59:42 PM
That streaking with the oil paint looks brilliant, Guy. Are you making Rudolf Stark's mount 146/17, or perhaps Von Tutscheks 404/17?
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: lcarroll on September 10, 2020, 10:10:28 PM
Guy,
    Very impressive results on the streaking! Are you using a "guide" of some sort? I couldn't come close to these results with an airbrush, I'd be all over the map!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: eclarson on September 10, 2020, 10:27:23 PM
The streaking looks terrific! 

Eric
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: RAGIII on September 10, 2020, 10:39:57 PM
Guy,
    Very impressive results on the streaking! Are you using a "guide" of some sort? I couldn't come close to these results with an airbrush, I'd be all over the map!
Cheers,
Lance

I agree with Lance and have the same question .
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: FAf on September 10, 2020, 10:51:59 PM
I'd be more than happy with streaking like that! I know Mr paint is easy to work with, but you're obviously very skilled with the airbrush!
/F
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Early Bird Fan on September 11, 2020, 01:06:02 AM
very impressive airbrush work, you must have a steady hand  ;D
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 11, 2020, 01:16:53 AM
Thank you again,



That streaking with the oil paint looks brilliant, Guy. Are you making Rudolf Stark's mount 146/17, or perhaps Von Tutscheks 404/17?
Cheers,
Gary


Hi Gary, it’s going to be Fokker Dr.I (No. 426/17, Wk Nr 2010) belonged to Vzfw Otto Esswein while serving with Jasta 26 at Halluin-Ost in May 1918...


(https://i.postimg.cc/2824L8zx/153-EF573-AD6-E-45-DE-B6-E7-EF5-A3752-A1-ED.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)



Guy,
    Very impressive results on the streaking! Are you using a "guide" of some sort? I couldn't come close to these results with an airbrush, I'd be all over the map!
Cheers,
Lance


That was my plan, and worked well on a practice piece of card. I angled the wing across my cutting mat, fixed into place with Blu-Tack then used a steel rule an inch above as a guide for the airbrush - using the parallel lines on the mat as a guide. But, I found this didn’t work so well on the wings due to them being 3D! Because of the airfoil shape it didn’t produce dead straight lines, so I ended up doing them freehand but still with the wing fixed and using the lines as a guide again - starting well off the wing and finishing well over the other side. It looks like different colours, but it’s in fact the same MRP RAF Dark Green but just varying the intensity of the lines.

Hope that helps...


Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: macsporran on September 11, 2020, 01:52:46 AM
Superb results, Guy.
Get me some MRP paints and, get me whatever airbrush you're using and, get me your angled mat and,.......
Aw heck, I'll just watch you make it!
Sandy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: lone modeller on September 11, 2020, 02:40:41 AM
Trying to keep up with you is very difficult....

That streaking is something to die for! By far the best I have seen for a long time - and free-hand too. That is the mark of a master painter. This is going to be a terrific model.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 11, 2020, 03:14:49 AM
Thanks Stephen & Sandy,


Trying to keep up with you is very difficult....

That streaking is something to die for! By far the best I have seen for a long time - and free-hand too. That is the mark of a master painter. This is going to be a terrific model.

Stephen.

Can I put ‘Master Painter’ in my signature block Stephen?  ;D Honestly, it really wasn’t hard...


On to more mundane items, just masking up the fuselage for painting.


Guy



(https://i.postimg.cc/Gh67H6ZM/BB849-C4-D-5-BE5-4-CD2-A275-9-B7-D9210220-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/LnBBWQ4f)




Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 11, 2020, 03:30:57 AM

Ps

I’d like to say this is her finished, but just a CGI image of the aircraft in question. I’m basing it on this finish as best I can...


Guy



(https://i.postimg.cc/NGHHNCNX/8-F3602-EA-7-C53-45-E5-A729-EC89881-E64-E1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: gcn on September 11, 2020, 03:31:14 AM
Very nice job all round, the streaking however is top notch.

The least you could do is provide us with a video how to 😁
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: rsanz on September 11, 2020, 04:10:50 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/5Nty6RwF/6150-D7-CA-2282-417-F-8-FEB-5-DFA24789-AAE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXT4Px1V)

That streaking pattern is remarkably good. Note that the axle wing was not painted with camouflage streaking. It was painted in a single colour (dark earth grey or field grey or whatever you want to call it). The only streaking on the axle wing was from castor oil exhaust staining.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 11, 2020, 04:19:22 AM
Ah thanks Rsanz,

I’ll re spray that... Additionally, the two profiles I’ve got show different main wing strut colours too - one blue, one green, I’ve opted for green..


Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: rsanz on September 11, 2020, 04:33:41 AM
Ah thanks Rsanz,

I’ll re spray that... Additionally, the two profiles I’ve got show different main wing strut colours too - one blue, one green, I’ve opted for green..


Guy

Wing struts would have been light blue as delivered from the factory and it's highly unlikely they would be overpainted in camouflage green at the unit.

(https://scontent.fakl6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/117772727_300338427708560_583455962100185882_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_sid=1480c5&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=xMAuMoKYot0AX-tdUnY&_nc_ht=scontent.fakl6-1.fna&tp=14&oh=31b3066b35de90d705551925bffd7515&oe=5F7F512D)
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: RAGIII on September 11, 2020, 05:10:00 AM
You are really moving quickly with tremendous results. You have convinced Me I need to start mine the moment the SPADs are done  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Bughunter on September 11, 2020, 05:38:33 AM
Guy, in the time I need to think if I should build a Dr.I and if yes, in which marking .... you build a complete aircraft :o
Impressive results, your streaking is great (only the angle is not that big on the picture in the latest posting?) and the kit seems to be also nice!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Alexis on September 11, 2020, 09:27:57 AM
Really , your fringing done !

Very beautiful job Guy  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 11, 2020, 04:12:52 PM
Thanks guys  ;)

Rsanz... thanks again.. I’ve repainted the struts blue.

Frank, you’re probably right re the angle. I was approximately copying an Aviattic sheet. Although as they were done by hand with a big fat brush there must be some variations!


The fuselage largely painted now...


Guy



(https://i.postimg.cc/15Zb4t4j/9-B4108-EC-3-C8-D-488-A-8829-4-C3-DB0-E695-B1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3Wntc3XX)


Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 11, 2020, 04:16:26 PM
Ps

As usual I managed to drop the horizontal stabiliser and knock off the moulded control horns. I struggle with finding a method to replace/add these that’s sturdy enough (as they’ll be under a degree of tension). Any thoughts here most welcome...

Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Edo on September 11, 2020, 04:47:31 PM
well, to tell the truth I am not a big fan at all of Fokkers in general and DrI in particular, but your build makes me want to star one soon....
very inspiring indeed and wonderfully executed!

ciao
edo
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: FAf on September 11, 2020, 05:27:26 PM
That's unfortunate! It seems to me that the best way would be to make a hole straight through the wing in order to get a solid enough joint. I was going to say that you could open it up from the front edge of the elevator, but I see that the hole thing is molded as one piece, so I guess drilling through?!

Cheers Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 11, 2020, 06:06:48 PM
Thanks Edo  :D

Fredrik, thanks, yes, I was coming to that conclusion myself. It’s going to have to be (brass) rod shaped though unless I can concoct something out of plastic card or similar that actually looks like a control horn... I’ll give that some thought.

Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: RAGIII on September 12, 2020, 01:23:05 AM
Thanks Edo  :D

Fredrik, thanks, yes, I was coming to that conclusion myself. It’s going to have to be (brass) rod shaped though unless I can concoct something out of plastic card or similar that actually looks like a control horn... I’ll give that some thought.

Guy

One of those control horns was the only thing that came disassembled in My kit. Luckily I have Eduard, Part, and Aviattic PE sets that include control horns. I will most likely go ahead and separate the elevator and cut slots to install the PE versions. I am sure you will sort your broken Horn out!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: mgunns on September 12, 2020, 02:04:28 AM
Just now scoping this out Guy:  The interior work is stellar if not absolutely outstanding.  If you hadn't said that the seat belts were WWII Luftwaffe, I would have never known.  They look quite good against the leather seat that also looks like real leather.  The streaking is most realistic and with an airbrush, I have only seen that done on one other model and that was a long time ago, yours looks great.  This is gonna be a barn burner.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: kensar on September 12, 2020, 03:01:14 AM
Great progress, Guy.  Nice painting.
Thanks for the closer look at the Meng Dr.1
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Europapete on September 12, 2020, 10:36:56 PM
Awesome job Guy, as everyone else has said, best painted streaking I have seen, well done. Regards, Pete in RI
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 13, 2020, 02:08:08 AM
Thank you,

I had a bit of a brain wave (unusual for me!), there’s a second tailplane in the kit (for the prototype) - different profile, but I’ve carved that to match the Dr.1 version and looks fine I think. Just gives me the control horns back.

I’ve finished the engine, and if I’m being honest, not a lot of work has gone into it, only a few parts (but nicely moulded) and just sprayed. I haven’t added any detail.



Guy



(https://i.postimg.cc/CKCSvGGg/B92-E8449-562-E-4962-B1-BA-0-E2-A5-D78-DD65.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5HthyFK7)



Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: gedmundson on September 13, 2020, 02:14:29 AM
Man, that engine looks great!
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: RAGIII on September 13, 2020, 07:11:33 AM
Gorgeous engine!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 13, 2020, 04:12:41 PM
Thanks Rick & Gary,

She’s progressed to being a biplane. Good fit so far - the wings click together like Lego - a welcome change from the Avro Manchester build! The further I get into the build, the more I like this kit. They are going to sell them by the bucket...

Thank goodness they sneaked this out in time!


Guy



(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0ZHYVMp/93-C6-E74-C-63-C2-4652-B34-A-3-DB3-AF3-ACC61.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/y3mtzLD5)



Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Early Bird Fan on September 13, 2020, 04:32:00 PM
i know the rest of it looks great but i can't keep my eye off those wings, stunning work  ;D
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 13, 2020, 08:58:18 PM
Thanks Early Bird,

Yes I am pleased with it. Better than I hoped at least.

Guns finished. Standard Wingnuts fare. I’m deliberately keeping everything simple and not weathering to any great extent. I’ll be happy with a clean cut finish on this one.

I have got the insignia masks and they’re top notch! Thanks Fredrik. I’ll post the results soon.


Guy


Ps just seen the end a little bent on one..  ???


(https://i.postimg.cc/76g9gt7g/17-D2-AC76-D8-E4-46-D4-8-D01-6148-CCD0779-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tZ4Fb5BT)
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Alexis on September 13, 2020, 10:30:30 PM
Making some really excellent progress Guy , engine looks great out of the box so do the guns .


Terri
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: FAf on September 14, 2020, 12:53:27 AM
👍👍👍
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: RAGIII on September 14, 2020, 01:13:53 AM
You are moving along quickly with No Loss in quality! The scheme is looking great as do the MG's.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: lone modeller on September 14, 2020, 02:37:16 AM
You can build a kit in the time it takes me to rig the wings on mine! Stunning fiinish on the wings, and the guns look completely realistic. Super kit - even better model.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 14, 2020, 04:43:03 AM
Thanks Terri, Fredrik, Stephen & Rick,


Quite a big update as I’m progressing at speed! Almost ready for the final construction phase. The masking went well thanks to Fredrik and, for a change, no touching up or bleeds. I love this colour scheme. I wouldn’t mind making another of these, I never normally re make a kit - but the choice of markings out there is mouth watering!


Guy



(https://i.postimg.cc/pdr9CTSW/A514-A097-B8-B3-4-CA4-889-A-4-A08960-ED3-F5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Jyw441mv)


(https://i.postimg.cc/yxmWxSDP/27-BA5954-90-F5-432-F-8-A9-A-A48-DC2-F18551.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kR57hGF6)


(https://i.postimg.cc/rw8RdgCt/0-C912750-56-CC-4-BC6-B0-C1-061-BCE285-C30.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6ympgrP9)


(https://i.postimg.cc/g07xTp9v/396-DA426-F73-C-4171-AD9-D-92-AF647-B0916.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v1W84pZB)


(https://i.postimg.cc/XqSpngYq/3-D3-FB12-A-38-F7-44-F8-B38-C-D20-C69-CA5-DE0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BLpqgHDf)


(https://i.postimg.cc/26B1ptmg/4-FEF80-E6-FCC4-4-C15-B8-A9-1-D3-F6-FC59-F74.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cg0xwXvc)


(https://i.postimg.cc/4xB7ptB2/F38-C5-C60-E196-4-F0-A-8-A9-B-FEF897357-A90.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BjPn08W2)




Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: gedmundson on September 14, 2020, 04:50:24 AM
You're right - that scheme looks fantastic. Great progress and very speedy work indeed.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: smperry on September 14, 2020, 05:36:46 AM
That is really beautiful Guy
sp
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: rsanz on September 14, 2020, 06:23:36 AM
I just sent a PM about the cockpit coaming colour.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: FAf on September 14, 2020, 07:10:08 AM
The masking went well thanks to Fredrik and, for a change, no touching up or bleeds.

Good that the masks performed, but I also suppose that you are getting better at using them. Great progress anyway and it's turning into a real gem!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: AlbertD on September 14, 2020, 01:33:57 PM
That scheme is beautiful and your paint work perfect. The streaking camouflage came out just right to my eye. I really like how it's just visible under the black markings. I'm planning on the MvR version from the WnW Albatross and want to get that effect unper the red on the top wing.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 14, 2020, 05:45:47 PM
Ah thank you guys! And thank you very much for taking the time to follow along.

Tbh, she’s nearly done now, just a few tweaks and then she’ll be in the ‘Completed Models’ section.

Super kit, only flaw I found was the warped wings, but surprisingly easily fixed. I haven’t tried the decals, but they do look a little thick, and it has been mentioned they got the Voss ‘face’ wrong.

Basically, every part of the kit that was Wingnuts is sublime, the rest.. boxing, instructions, decals, is mediocre. There’s not even a mention or indeed, a picture of the rigging.

But you need to get this kit!


All the best,

Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 14, 2020, 05:53:48 PM
Ps


I just sent a PM about the cockpit coaming colour.

Thanks to Rsanz for mentioning the metal cockpit/ engine cover should be, of course, non streaky. My obvious mistake, but to be fair it was on both of my colour profiles I was using!

Just for info in case you build a similar scheme...


Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: kensar on September 14, 2020, 09:56:17 PM
Great paint work, Guy.  I see you didnt use the PE engine access covers.  Any particular reason why?
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 14, 2020, 10:28:30 PM
Great paint work, Guy.  I see you didnt use the PE engine access covers.  Any particular reason why?

No not really Ken,

Just laziness! The kit ones are a bit thick in retrospect, nothing wrong with the PE.

Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: RAGIII on September 15, 2020, 05:53:48 AM
Your work on this one is really quite inspiring! I am Gobsmacked at the paint work, Markings etc.!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Alexis on September 15, 2020, 11:05:49 AM
Eye candy !


Terri
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Pup7309 on September 21, 2020, 08:02:10 PM
Eye candy alright!
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: ThePenguin on September 23, 2020, 09:18:27 AM
Very nice! I have my second kit arriving tomorrow, so one will have to be streaked. Thank you for sharing the build progress.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: pepperman42 on September 23, 2020, 09:55:11 PM
Amazing progress and a very sharp scheme!!

Steve
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 25, 2020, 02:22:35 AM
Thanks,

I really did enjoy it. It can be a very simple build if you want it to be.

Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: fredjocko on September 26, 2020, 12:42:36 AM
I have been off the forum for a few weeks due to work and home stuff and I cannot believe what I have missed. Wow!! Your build is amazing!! The streaking I am going to have to experiment with, I love the effect!!! If you don't mind what were your airbrush settings and needle size to get that variation in spray? I agree the MRP paints are great. I only tried a a couple of colors; but, after seeing your work, I think I need to try more. It is just amazing!!!!
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 26, 2020, 01:05:11 AM
Ah thanks,

It’s a standard airbrush - nozzle is 0.3mm, I used a low pressure setting with the movement of the needle limited to prevent an overflow of paint. It’s really not as hard as you think. Just worth practicing first - an old model wing would be ideal to get the feel for it.

Hope that helps...

Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: GazzaS on September 29, 2020, 05:25:32 PM
My goodness, I love that streaking!
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Watcher on September 30, 2020, 07:06:44 PM
Thank you for your inspiring build. Can I ask a newbie question please. Was the green streaking part of the dyeing process for the cloth or was it painted on after the aircraft was built?
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Gisbod on September 30, 2020, 08:41:07 PM
Thanks,

Thank you for your inspiring build. Can I ask a newbie question please. Was the green streaking part of the dyeing process for the cloth or was it painted on after the aircraft was built?

It was built with plain linen wings and painted on with a 4” brush at the factory - so that was the standard factory scheme I believe.

Guy
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Watcher on October 01, 2020, 11:44:56 PM
Thanks,

Thank you for your inspiring build. Can I ask a newbie question please. Was the green streaking part of the dyeing process for the cloth or was it painted on after the aircraft was built?

It was built with plain linen wings and painted on with a 4” brush at the factory - so that was the standard factory scheme I believe.

Guy

Thank you.
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I (Fokker strie streaking)
Post by: rsanz on October 02, 2020, 04:34:48 AM
Thank you for your inspiring build. Can I ask a newbie question please. Was the green streaking part of the dyeing process for the cloth or was it painted on after the aircraft was built?

The best evidence points to it being painted on using a strie technique similar to what is shown in this video. ...but imagine Fokker using yellow-brown and blue-green glazes over clear doped linen. And doing everything as quickly and cheaply as is humanly possible.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-YY5p9pPZfQ
Title: Re: Meng Fokker Dr.I
Post by: Norman L on October 04, 2020, 10:32:22 AM
Looking fantastic !