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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: FAf on August 28, 2020, 06:29:13 AM
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Hi all!
For different reasons I've been quite a silent viewer for about three months and I must say that there's been a lot of good and inspiring builds to look at. Well done everyone! The main reasons for my semi-absence has been the 1:1 fence and a wooden deck area we've been building this staycation summer - very happy with that!
Modelwise I've been working on a new project. This time it's Eduard's weekend boxing of the Brisfit. It's actually nearing completion so here's a lot of pictures on three months worth of in-between modelling...
I started out with the idea to build the model as one of the box options, but that changed later as I was browsing through WNW's manual for the Brisfit.
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Beginning as usual with primer - Mr Surfacer and lots of toothpicks.
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Detail painting prior to closing the fuselage and a pic of the interior after closing it up.
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It took a bit of filler to even out the surfaces, but I was a bit sloppy and destroyed some of the stitching in the process. Stupid mistake!
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Struts... not much to say really.
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Paint and shadowing of the fuselage and wings.
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Masks on for roundels, rudder flash and a "T". Some more masking and lots and lots of wires...
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This is where I am at the moment!
Take care!
/Fredrik
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Wow! Quite a start to say the least. All looks awesome from the wood grain to the completed interior. Looks great all together and I am looking forward to your next update!
RAGIII
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Very impressive so far Fredrik , really like the toning you did on the fuselage and wings . :) Looking forward on the next stage :)
Terri
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Nice masking Fredrik!
I’ve got one of these started in the stash, will be eager to see how she turns out!
Guy
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Looks great, Man!
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That is a very impressive model in the making! The T is very good - was it self made? The shading on the wings is also first class. Good luck with the rigging.
Stephen.
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Thank you all for your supportive comments! Friendliest forum ever!
Tried Eduard's suggestion for the PC10 - Gunze H309 and the fading is partly from the uneven spraying of that and partly by masking off the ribs and spraying diluted Tamiya smoke around them.
Stephen: all markings self made and sprayed - personally I like the way white markings come out when you spray them, white but not as stark as most decals.
Rigging has started and I'll probably use a lot of that good luck wish.
The horizontal tail plane was a bit skewed and i tried to pull it right using the rigging. I think I managed, but it's probably not visible from these two pictures. My main problem so far is where to start and where to go from there. There's a lot of rigging on this one! Another problem is the fact that Eduard is a bit off when it comes to the rigging diagram - two questions if anyone can answer them
1. Should there be a control cable from the fuselage and into the bottom wing just short of the outer struts? I imagine that this is the control cable for the ailerons?!
2. Should all control cables for the rudder and elevators be double? Looking at different walkarounds it looks that way, but it isn't shown like that in either Eduard's or WnW's rigging diagrams.
Some of today's work - not all detail painting done yet...
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/FAf
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So one question mark has become an exclamation mark instead. Thank you sp for clarifying the wing control wires! Much appreciated!
/Fredrik
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FAf
You are most welcome.
sp
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Cross referencing from Gary's Manchester build, reference struts.
If you use my method you will need to support the wings until you have at least two pairs of struts in place. I use card as it is cheap, easy to cut and does not mark any paintwork. If you look up my partial strip-down Vickers Gunbus, the Pheonix A or Hansa-Brandenburg CC build logs you will see what I mean. I am hoping to put up a post for my current build showing card jigs too - hopefully in the next couple of days.
Hope this helps.
Stephen
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Thanks Stephen! I'll have a look at your builds and see what I can do.
Also - thanks to Frank for pointing me in the direction of his outstanding build here on the forum!
/Fredrik
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Outstanding work, Fredrik. This will look great when done.
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Great turnbuckle work, especially in 1/48 scale. Looking forward to seeing more of this build.
sp
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Awesome rigging on the tail surfaces! Really looking fantastic!
RAGIII
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Fantastic work on build and rigging.
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Thanks for the support! I had a bad time for a while and it was mostly connected to attaching the upper wing. In the end I won over the struts and rigging is progressing slowly... maybe a picture or two tomorrow.
/Fredrik
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Looking forward on seeing how she looks with the wing fitted . :)
Terri
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The mating of upper and lower wings is one thing that WNW perfected. I hope future kits by any company, in all scales, have learned the lesson of positive strut location! I know these older kits can be challenging. Looking forward to your progress!
RAGIII
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Thanks Terri and Rick!
I guess there could be something like experience that would help in attaching top wings, but this was probably pure luck! Eduard's struts aren't that bad, but they sure don't just fall into place either. Finally I simply superglued the cabane struts in a way that looked ok and then I attached the top wing to those and finally I took the rest of the struts and superglued them into place as well. But, like I said, probably pure luck! :P :P :P
Some pictures... nothing much to say apart from that the first ones show the upper wing attached but no rigging done and then the last ones show all of the wires done. Next up, tomorrow possibly, would be control wires. Ohh, if you look closely you'll see that I carved a hole in each lower wing, close to the outer struts and attached the control wires running from the fuselage. Thanks again sp for your assistance! Frank, your build will come in handy for the control wires... so thank you again but in advance!
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/Fredrik
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Stunning Fredrik!
I love that muted paint mask work. Spot on.
I find top wing attachments really tricky!
Guy
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In Spite of any difficulties in mounting the upper wing your Bristol looks great! The rigging is looking superb. Excellent results.
RAGIII
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Whatever issues you had , you overcame that hurdle wonderfully ! An excellent start on the rigging as well . How are you doing the double wires ?
Terri
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Very nice color selection! This bird will look beautiful.
Cheers,
Frank
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Stunning Fredrik!
I love that muted paint mask work. Spot on.
I find top wing attachments really tricky!
Guy
Thanks Guy!
Yes I quite like the colours and their intensity, or lack thereof. I used Mr Paint's semi matte clear and it gave a nice look.
/F
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Thanks Rick, Terri and Frank! You three must be among the very top of positive forum commentators!
Terri; The double wires are simply two single wires. Two holes drilled as parallel to eachother as I could at both ends and then the normal eyelet and tubing approach.
Take care!
/Fredrik
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Hi Fredrik, I've missed some superb builds whilst away for a month. This is looking stunning, your usual immaculate standard!
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Thanks Fredrik :)
Terri
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the paint work and the build look fantastic, you guys make it look so easy ::) :D
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Hi Fredrik
You are a braver man than me, tackling a double bay biplane top wing in 1/48 scale. I find top wings daunting on every model and follow the same process as you- cabane struts first then the outer struts with fingers crossed and tube of super glue gel to hand.
Your Bristol Fighter looks really nice. I always feel a model starts to look like it's on the road to completion when the undercarriage is added and the top wing glued in place and aligned.
Great build!
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Very fine work all around! Colours and rigging make the job! :)
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Well thank you PrzemoL, Dave, Early Bird Fan, Terri and Richie for your comments and all others who have had a look...
Dave; I don't know if bravery has got anything to do with it... maybe stupidity is a better explanation. This was my fifth topwing placement and they've all been scary. The last one before this was WnW's Pup and that was relatively simple and Eduard could definitely learn something from them about locating pins and holes.
Over in one of Terri's threads (her Dreidecker Pfalz I think) I wrote something about mistakes and two possible ways to view them - one way being that you have to see them and care about them to avoid repeating them, the other way being that the overall impression is more important than a faultless result - or something like that. Well, in this case I'll learn from the mistakes and hope that those that see the end result see the bigger picture, because I discovered a fairly huge mistake in my rigging yesterday and I can't correct it... Next model will be perfect though! ;) ;D
The rigging is done (even if there's a fault in it)! This last stage involved the controlwires and some others, like the ones from the front of the enginebearers to the top wing. A long copper eyelet and then a Gaspatch resin turnbuckle at the other end.
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The rudder has got double wires and this was replicated by simply running the monofilament through the control horn once and then glueing two pieces of tube paralell to each other. Both rudder and elevator control cables have turnbuckles which were a bit fiddly to attach but they do add a lot of interest to the model.
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What's left? There are quite a lot of details to be painted and it still need wheels and there's the gun mount to be placed. Not too much. Next stop Completed models section?!
Cheers
Fredrik
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Amazing details on the rigging! Superb work 8)
RAGIII
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Splendid work, Sir!
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the rigging looks amazing 8)
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Honestly Fredrik,
That is superbly rigged in 1/48th Scale - that’s not easy to do!
Guy
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Hey Fredrik ,
I guess in the end if one is happy with the results of the finished project the next one will be better . Really nice job on the rigging . How to find the resin turnbuckles ?
Terri
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Thanks for the support guys! Not quite finished but very near and next stop will be the completed section. One last picture here if you look below...
Hey Fredrik ,
I guess in the end if one is happy with the results of the finished project the next one will be better . Really nice job on the rigging . How to find the resin turnbuckles ?
Terri
Thanks Terri! I think you're right and if you can't see the bigger picture then you would have to bin every model as soon as you make a mistake - not really sustainable that!
The turnbuckles are from Gaspatch. I've been ordering directly from their website - http://www.gaspatchmodels.com/. And I've got both their resin and metal versions. By the way they are Type C turnbuckles with an eye in each end and then I've added a copper wire eyelet to one end if needed.
Final WIP picture...
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/Fredrik
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Fredrik,
That is superb!
Guy
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Hats off!
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Beautiful Results Fredrik!
RAGIII
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A very nice Bristol! I like your paint work.
Cheers,
Frank
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She is fantastic ! :) But I'm going through picture withdraw and that's not a good thing ....need more photo's ;)
Terri
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I have not dropped by recently Frederik, so I have just caught up. That is truly a first class model - a winner if ever I saw one. I doubt wheterh anyone will notice the rigging error - unless it is pointed out to them. That is a model to be proud of.
Stephen.
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She is fantastic ! :) But I'm going through picture withdraw and that's not a good thing ....need more photo's ;)
Terri
Terri, I've got them in the camera. I just haven't had time to put them into the computer yet. Maybe tomorrow, but then in the finished section.
/Fredrik
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I have not dropped by recently Frederik, so I have just caught up. That is truly a first class model - a winner if ever I saw one. I doubt wheterh anyone will notice the rigging error - unless it is pointed out to them. That is a model to be proud of.
Stephen.
Thank you Guy, Rick, Frank, Terri and Stephen!
I don't know if she's a winner as there are a few more issues apart from the rigging mishap, but I'm really happy with the end result! It'll probably be me telling people what's wrong. It's a bit like when you've redecorated a room and people say how good it looks and you can't help but say 'Thank you, but if you look here you can see the misalignment of the wallpapers.' 😃
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I'm new to the forum and joined after you did this. This is a beautiful build!
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Missed this build, let me congratulate you on your reamarkable work and superb finishing of your Brisfit.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Why, thank you Phil and Giuseppe! I'm glad you liked it and your comments are very kind!
Cheers
Fredrik
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How did you make the masks for the registration numbers? (I'm not sure that's what they are called, but the numbers on the tail.)
I spent a bit looking at this yesterday and am back looking at it again today. Great work!
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How did you make the masks for the registration numbers? (I'm not sure that's what they are called, but the numbers on the tail.)
I spent a bit looking at this yesterday and am back looking at it again today. Great work!
Hi phil2015!
Several years ago I needed a special decal, but couldn't really find a good way of getting it. To make a long story short, that quest ended with me getting a Silhuette Cameo 2 cutting machine. I use that to cut vinyl paint masks so that I can avoid using decals as much as possible. The serial number on the fin is made with such a mask. You can see a bit of how it's used if you go here https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11510.msg214684#msg214684 (https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11510.msg214684#msg214684)
Ask again if you have more questions.
/FAf
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thanks, fredrik. My wife has one of those of a different brand and it doesn't do a great job with letters. Looks like she bought the wrong tool for my hobby >:( ;D