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Title: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: Bughunter on August 17, 2020, 07:27:17 AM
Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48  
 


My fifth model of 2020 is a important piece of aviation history: the Sopwith Triplane as flown by Raymond Collishaw in the Black Flight.
It is in scale 1/48 and based on the Eduard kit. Some kit parts are replaced by wood and metal e.g. airscrew, tail skid and cockpit parts. Beside the kit PE I used PE from the company Parts, the Clerget engine from Small Stuff, the seat belts are made by HGW and the terminals for the RAF wire rigging is from Gaspatch.
The paints are from Mr.Paint, especially the nice PC12 needs to be mentioned, Alclad, Gunze and oil paints for the weathering.
Without the great support of our forum members the project would not have been possible - Thank you very much!

I really like the final look of the model ...
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ns8QysJH5bSzMkUpy64-BOe2tsfV9mst)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=14z90bfYCjiUvRk9kroYsXOGRQZ1PGORA)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1wphCbqtrdHyYiJ4xkZ9YOzSBFYHz9CIn)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=136UDwfXkItGJK3-wT1D0nFVtDy0eq8dG)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1cSvY7PCp2l8vcEaqRGyetbsepAFK9Gvn)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=15yUUIxNqjuQi9HvOg_iIybLZjt_aSfrX)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1tjtnxHHFRd5mWAizDTDA4gzpwC5VVueY)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1kc-GZNV4cAG1XYhDcRBbQgai-1Zoj-ql)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1FAopduOTW4rx3lMbW4DyQQ5umhIzjgma)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1HSa0Wjmr0oYisKuDHsVFXEDYbipROFx-)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1fxNEdP5Q2HwwwHfovJzkyvSNzi6s9rQ_)


And I tried a little experiment :)

My be you know that picture of Collishaw's Triplane:
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/v46A6C38E/www/products/model_kitsets/32607/archive_photos/Sopwith%20Triplane%20N533%20Raymond%20Collishaw%2010%20Naval%20Squadron%20(20).jpg)
Source: wingnutwings.com

My imitation:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1J6CbQl9mF2vg7lXc0Tr8MeJ5nWl-u2rR)

And again in color:
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1M_5AZYCtynDTyYu5UAOtcyVXcCsRHT8o)


For macro shots of all those internal details you should browse through the build report:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11063

I will try to do some outdoor shots ...

Thanks for watching!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: kensar on August 17, 2020, 07:47:25 AM
A fine looking beast, Frank.  If there are any errors, they are not obvious, but I am not very familiar with Sopwith Tripes.  Your detail work really sets your builds apart.
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: ModelCellar on August 17, 2020, 09:20:07 AM
looks great.  I like the very subtle streaking/weathering on the under side.

Paul
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: lcarroll on August 17, 2020, 11:36:38 AM
    As usual Frank, a magnificent model! The very brownish PC.12 color looks very good, the detail is spectacular, and the overall effect most impressive, great modelling!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: Gisbod on August 17, 2020, 04:05:41 PM
Beautiful Frank,

I think your best yet. It really does look like a Wingnuts kit - but better!

I love your multi media approach to modelling.


Guy
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: PrzemoL on August 17, 2020, 05:53:41 PM
A very important aircraft indeed. And a fine model all around. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on August 17, 2020, 08:07:39 PM
This is a very fine model indeed.!
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on August 17, 2020, 09:29:59 PM
Must say that this has to be your best yet , beautiful job Frank !


Terri
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on August 18, 2020, 12:38:51 AM
Following your build was truly a pleasure. I was more amazed with each update! This is a Masterful Build in all aspects! Brilliant work Frank!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: gedmundson on August 18, 2020, 12:44:27 AM
That is one fine looking model, Frank. Absolutely brilliant - a real jewel. Great looking photos of a beautiful model.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: Early Bird Fan on August 18, 2020, 03:18:48 AM
That’s a beautiful looking model, certainly one to be proud of
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on August 18, 2020, 05:46:02 AM
All of your models have something to teach the rest of us Frank. Your use of different materials demonstrate a level of skill which turn me green with envy.

That is a truly magnificent model from a master modeller.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on August 18, 2020, 06:48:51 AM
Thank you Ken, Paul, Lance, Guy , PrzemoL, Ian, Terri, Rick, Gary, Early Bird Fan and Stephen! Your feedback made my day!

The very brownish PC.12 color looks very good
I like the real color even more, compared to the pictures. It is more dark and less on the red side, my cam seems to modify red somehow.


I think your best yet.
and
Must say that this has to be your best yet
Wow, again? I thought that would not be possible. Ok, I tried to take advantage of the new electronic cutting tool for masking. May be this helped.
The next one must then be able to fly? :o

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: bobs_buckles on August 18, 2020, 07:33:31 PM
Excellent work, Frank!
You have created a little gem of a Tripe - well done!!

vB  ;)
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on August 18, 2020, 07:52:21 PM
Thank you Bob!
I looked lately at your interpretation in the group build and I must say I like the black tailplane too. But it was to late, it was already painted. On the other hand I could use a black C below, which is also nice.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: Radarman on August 18, 2020, 10:51:50 PM
Frank,
I have enjoyed this build from the start and the result is fantastic.

                                                                     Thanks for sharing your skills,
                                                                                                Kevin
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on August 19, 2020, 03:38:41 AM
Thank you Kevin, also for your continued support in the build thread!

Fortunately I started to build these flying wire entanglements quite late, because when this kit was released, these great accessories from Small Stuff and Gaspatch were not available. But in retrospect it was hard to find the old kits - I found this triplane kit in Italy.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: jeroen_R90S on August 19, 2020, 07:36:17 PM
Following your build was truly a pleasure. I was more amazed with each update! This is a Masterful Build in all aspects! Brilliant work Frank!
RAGIII

+1 :)

One thing that catches my eye somehow is that the fuselage behind the cockpit on the Eduard model seems less rounded (flatter) than in the picture of the real one. Not meant as criticism, just something that I noticed (and would be hard to correct, although for you it seems noting is impossible!  8)

Jeroen
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on August 20, 2020, 03:24:03 AM
Thank you Jeroen!

the fuselage behind the cockpit on the Eduard model seems less rounded (flatter) than in the picture of the real one.
That is a interesting question, so I cut a paper template from the section D-D (end of the cockpit cut out) of the Datafile drawing and hold it to the model - perfect match. So Eduard got it right according to the drawing. May be the drawing is wrong?
Could also be a optical effect, I can't reach the same camera position with my lens.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: jeroen_R90S on August 20, 2020, 05:19:29 AM
Could be an optical effect, too -the original has a pronounced reflection on the edge where the panel around the cockpit changes into fabric, which shows it's curve very well -perhaps too well?
It would be interesting to see how the Wingnuts model relates to a scaled-up drawing :) Or am I being obsessed now?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: mgunns on August 20, 2020, 09:45:56 AM
Very nicely done.  I especially like the way you highlighted the wing ribbing, almost a translucent effect.  As mentioned too the color is a real eye catcher as well, like the shade of PC-12 you have.  Overall a very outstanding build.
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: Dwaynewilly on August 20, 2020, 01:17:31 PM
You made that old Eduard kit shine. Nice work indeed.

Cheers,
Dwayne
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: dr 1 ace on August 21, 2020, 04:22:41 AM
You made that old Eduard kit shine. Nice work indeed.

Cheers,
Dwayne



Ditto this and all the above compliments !

Ed
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on August 22, 2020, 08:29:00 PM
Thank you Mark, Dwayne and Ed!

I used a lightning tent for the pictures but I do not like the reflection of the PC12 to the lower surfaces above. I really must try to take some outdoor shots.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Outdoor photos
Post by: Bughunter on August 23, 2020, 12:55:04 AM
Today I took outdoor shots before it started raining. Enjoy!

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=16e5i4bDOOde-UwmkbIBdzdT4SK2pdXMT)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1TuGybZfA6z8Uofsdp8eGPUNovn9pRL2k)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1cCgeNUmwxQFN2Tny4X6ub7b62YXTNGru)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1_RMfjBG1dLrQEnCTXmkYEgEO8-2cx6lo)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1fU0v28sD_UpSUcJT-aaM92scj_hDi47a)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1-yAXtxi3719OyUnAYhG_OqebmLhFFa7r)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: jeroen_R90S on August 26, 2020, 07:44:48 PM
Even prettier this way :)
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: GazzaS on September 03, 2020, 03:07:33 PM
Love the plane and new photos, Frank!  Very nice!
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: macsporran on September 03, 2020, 04:45:41 PM
Why are you posting pictures of a real full size aeroplane here?
Sandy
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: Gisbod on September 03, 2020, 07:01:56 PM
I want to jump in and fly her Frank!

Guy
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: Bughunter on September 04, 2020, 10:46:38 PM
Thank you Jeroen, Gaz, Sandy and Guy!

Why are you posting pictures of a real full size aeroplane here?
Because this is one of my scaled down originals :D See my signature below.


I want to jump in and fly her Frank!
Guy, I can only allow that with a valid type rating :P

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: fredjocko on September 05, 2020, 03:53:51 AM
That looks amazing!!
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: RichieW on September 09, 2020, 03:04:54 AM
Hi Frank, I've been away from the scene for a while and missed this. I loved following the build and the finished model is an absolute gem. A real masterclass in fine detailing!
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: Bughunter on September 09, 2020, 04:32:33 AM
Thank you Carl and Richie!

I've been away from the scene for a while and missed this.
Oh, Richie is back 8) You missed a lot I would say ... ;)

Cheers,
Frank

Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: pepperman42 on September 09, 2020, 11:58:43 AM
Outstanding work!!

Steve
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: Brad Cancian on September 10, 2020, 10:55:10 AM
Beautiful :)
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: Dave Brewer on September 10, 2020, 11:05:42 AM
I just caught up Frank,and what a treat,a beautifully executed model.Congratulations indeed,
Cheers,
Dave.
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: lone modeller on September 11, 2020, 02:44:56 AM
I too thought for a moment that you had been to Old Warden and taken these photos...... I could easily be mistaken into believing that this is a real aeroplane. What a tribute to your modelling skills!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Sopwith Triplane "Black Maria", Eduard 1/48, Update outdoor photos
Post by: Bughunter on September 11, 2020, 07:09:25 AM
Oh, very nice, that this older thread pops up again and overtakes the newer Morane-Saulnier with Skies 8) Need to wait some month for outdoor pics for that machine.

Thank you very much Steve, Brad, Dave and Stephen!

I too thought for a moment that you had been to Old Warden and taken these photos......
Pity, I would have loved to see your face at that moment :D

Cheers,
Frank