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Title: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on August 10, 2020, 08:22:08 AM
So I am waiting on some PE turnbuckles for My SPADs and figured I might as well do a little bit of work on My next Dual Build project. I am going to build the CSM NIeuport 23 and the Roden Pfalz DIII. I figured I would represent two companies that are still active in supporting our Niche of the Hobby in 1/32nd scale!
RAGIII


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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on August 10, 2020, 09:43:47 AM
Tagging along for this one ....There's a Pfalz being built  ;)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Radarman on August 10, 2020, 12:11:33 PM
RAGIII,
This will be another delightful dual build to follow. Both model
companies deserve your treatment.

                                                  Kevin
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: andonio64 on August 10, 2020, 03:49:22 PM
One first row seat please!
:-)
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: gbrivio on August 10, 2020, 04:24:37 PM
Promising double build, great subjects!
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Bughunter on August 10, 2020, 08:55:08 PM
You can only do mini-group builds, right?
This only increases the difficulty, because you must not mix up any parts, but well - everybody as he likes!
I'm definitely in. Good luck!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: kensar on August 10, 2020, 09:50:39 PM
Looks like you're over your 'loss of mojo' you had a while back!

Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: rhallinger on August 10, 2020, 10:53:06 PM
Great combo!  Your productivity is as impressive as your results.  Have fun Rick!  We certainly will. ;D

Best regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 11, 2020, 01:29:43 AM
Thanks Guys and Gal! I will try not to let you down  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: lone modeller on August 11, 2020, 02:21:10 AM
You are a model-making machine Rick! Multiple builds seem to be your forte - I just hope that you do not run out of space in the near future as you have such a marvellous collection of models.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 11, 2020, 05:09:01 AM
You are a model-making machine Rick! Multiple builds seem to be your forte - I just hope that you do not run out of space in the near future as you have such a marvellous collection of models.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen, although lately it seems I am a Model "Starting Machine"  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 14, 2020, 06:44:27 AM
A small beginning: I have sanded off the raised tank on the left side of the upper wing on the Pfalz I and sprayed a base coat for the wood finsih on the CSM Nieuport 23.


RAGIII


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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on August 14, 2020, 09:52:29 AM
It is a nice start Rick but for one thing ...CSM doesn't have a Spad ...yet  ;)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 14, 2020, 09:57:44 AM
It is a nice start Rick but for one thing ...CSM doesn't have a Spad ...yet  ;)


Terri

thanks Terri. You are of course correct about the Mistake and I have corrected My Post 😂
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Early Bird Fan on August 14, 2020, 04:30:21 PM
looking forward to seeing these come together, you'll have them finished by the end of the weekend right?  ;) :D
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: fredjocko on August 14, 2020, 10:02:55 PM
You are definitely a glutton for punishment...I'm sure you will master both!!
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on August 15, 2020, 07:20:45 AM
You, Rick, are a MACHINE!!!
Dan
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 15, 2020, 08:13:45 AM
Thanks all for the comments! I did a little oil work today. Going for a darker look to match the one in the Brussels Museum: Perhaps a coat of clear orange or yellow once dry.
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on August 15, 2020, 09:10:30 AM
Clear orange with a touch of brown should do the trick . That is a really nice effect Rick , How dark do you want to go ?


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RichieW on August 17, 2020, 04:23:14 AM
What a great project, I like the choice of Roden and CSM kits now that WNW are gone. Great subjects too.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 17, 2020, 08:07:18 AM
Clear orange with a touch of brown should do the trick . That is a really nice effect Rick , How dark do you want to go ?


Terri

Thanks T!
RAGIII


What a great project, I like the choice of Roden and CSM kits now that WNW are gone. Great subjects too.

Thanks Richie. Like I said I chose these two for that Very Reason!
RAGIII


And a small update. I did an overspray of Tamiya clear yellow/orange then added som burnt umber oil washes for an "Oily" look. Still a bit to do.
RAGIII


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and a little on the Pfalz: I began to correct what I thought was a "Short Shot". I have since been informed that the area was to allow for the exhaust and was common for the kit...not a mistake. So before I "Un- correct" My repair is this like the ledge molded on almost all Albatros kits that wasn't really there or should the rectangular section indeed be cut away ??
RAGIII


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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Early Bird Fan on August 17, 2020, 08:22:51 AM
that wood effect is looking really good  8)
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 17, 2020, 08:35:47 AM
that wood effect is looking really good  8)

Thanks for looking in and the comment!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on August 17, 2020, 10:45:07 AM
I like the effect of the side panels Rick and the rest is shaping up nicely as well .  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: kensar on August 17, 2020, 06:30:39 PM
Yes, nice wood effects on the panels.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 18, 2020, 02:49:15 AM
I like the effect of the side panels Rick and the rest is shaping up nicely as well .  :)



Terri

Thanks T!
RAGIII

Yes, nice wood effects on the panels.


Thanks Ken. Today I will start assemble or work on the Pfalz. Haven't decided yet  :-\
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Bughunter on August 18, 2020, 03:10:47 AM
Good start with wood painting!
I have also a rare Pfalz D.III kit from Eduard in my stash. The D.IIIa was often released, but not the D.III
The good thing is we don't need full weapons, since only the fronts of the 08/15 are visible :D

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: lone modeller on August 18, 2020, 05:20:41 AM
Good progress Rick, and as usual all at high speed with no detrimental impact on quality. The wood tones are very good.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: andonio64 on August 18, 2020, 06:25:56 PM
Great work as usual, Rick, if you refer to the "ledge" meaning the piece you replaced with a white plasticard one, well I saw on all the DIII photos and profile that the housing of the MGs was completely closed and just the end  of the barrel was visible...

Antonio
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: jeroen_R90S on August 19, 2020, 07:32:53 PM
Looking good! What was/is it with the tank on the Pfalz wing? Should it not be there, or will it be replaced by PE or something?
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 19, 2020, 11:03:48 PM
Good start with wood painting!
I have also a rare Pfalz D.III kit from Eduard in my stash. The D.IIIa was often released, but not the D.III
The good thing is we don't need full weapons, since only the fronts of the 08/15 are visible :D

Cheers,
Frank

Thanks Frank, and yes no need for fancy Machine guns on this one!
RAGIII


Great work as usual, Rick, if you refer to the "ledge" meaning the piece you replaced with a white plasticard one, well I saw on all the DIII photos and profile that the housing of the MGs was completely closed and just the end  of the barrel was visible...

Antonio

Yes, the DIII has the guns mostly internal. If Eduard has it correct, I checked MY Old DIII kit,  I need to fix the opening although it is molded correctly for this kit and not a "Short Shot".
RAGIII

Good progress Rick, and as usual all at high speed with no detrimental impact on quality. The wood tones are very good.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. I have to fill time until the PE arrives for the SPAD rigging  8)
RAGIII


Looking good! What was/is it with the tank on the Pfalz wing? Should it not be there, or will it be replaced by PE or something?


The fuel tank was internal. Only the filler is visible on the wing.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on August 20, 2020, 10:53:22 PM
 :)


Terri , who is happy that the tank was removed !
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 21, 2020, 12:47:24 AM
:)


Terri , who is happy that the tank was removed !


Thanks Terri. I guess I forgot to post the photo. Before final polishing and priming which is now done.
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 21, 2020, 08:11:52 AM
Going back to My question re the Roden Right fuselage. I am convinced that I did not have a "Short Shot" on the fuselage and that this is common to the Roden Mold. That being said the attached photo shows the Eduard 1/48th DIII fuselage. Did they get it right? I am also adding a photo that Stephen T. Lawson posted on My Face Book Page. I am a bit slow at picking out details so what do you Guys, and Gal think?

RAGIII



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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: smperry on August 21, 2020, 08:27:13 AM
There is no telling since the cabane hides the top of the little peeky outie hole in the photo. Also that could have been something that was a field mod. Mechanics could have opened up the top for easier access to the end of the gun barrel and any attachment hardware or in response to overheating if  the gun was fired too long. Since one model company got it one way and another got it the other, it is possible this was a mod not used on every machine and using different sources both Roden and Eduard got it right. 
sp
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 21, 2020, 08:40:17 AM
There is no telling since the cabane hides the top of the little peeky outie hole in the photo. Also that could have been something that was a field mod. Mechanics could have opened up the top for easier access to the end of the gun barrel and any attachment hardware or in response to overheating if  the gun was fired too long. Since one model company got it one way and another got it the other, it is possible this was a mod not used on every machine and using different sources both Roden and Eduard got it right. 
sp

It is said, do not go to the Elves for advice as they will tell you both yes and No.  ::) I guess the same applies to Modelers  ;D Good Points though SP!
RAGIII

PS: One other interesting thing is that when I enlarged the photo from Stephen I really couldn't make out any Noticiable grooves in the inner fuselage like provided in the WNW DIIIa. What do you all think?
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: petrov27 on August 21, 2020, 09:43:15 AM
I feel there would not be heavy grooves on the inside as WNW have in their Pfalz but still some evidence of the wood strips that make up the shell maybe?

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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 21, 2020, 10:34:16 AM
Thanks for the great photos. I think I might try just doing some washes to simulate the variances in the interior. I also received a reply from Stephen Lawson indicating Eduard got the fuselage right so I will go with My correction.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: petrov27 on August 21, 2020, 11:20:07 AM
yeah that is probably a solid way to go.

though the more I look at that Pfalz DVIII shell I wonder if there were fabric tapes glued over each crack where the boards met? Of course maybe that was a later thing that they did not do on the earlier DIII. Or maybe I am just seeing things :)
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: GazzaS on August 21, 2020, 02:03:20 PM
Ooh, nice to see this pairing, Rick!
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on August 21, 2020, 10:07:09 PM
Rick , on the inside of the fuselage you are correct . There shouldn't be any grooves at all on the inside of the fuselage . Earlier production runs of Pfalz aircraft stripes of cloth covered the joins and doped . On later production run aircraft the taping was dropped and sanded smooth such as on the D.VII . The inside could have been cleared varnished or painted . I really don't think there is any set rule to how the inside was painted at the time so it is open to your own intertupation .


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 21, 2020, 11:08:24 PM
Thanks All! Now that My thinking is over I am going to try to do a little Modeling today  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: smperry on August 21, 2020, 11:49:17 PM
Never a seamless transition. I'm going through the same today restarting work on a model that has sat for a week while I thought, (dithered), about the next step. Enjoy the modeling, always more relaxing than the thinking part.
sp
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: fredjocko on August 22, 2020, 12:37:42 AM
Awesome work as always. I really enjoy your builds and your economy in finishing them. You finish in the time it takes me to finish a step...
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 25, 2020, 05:03:30 AM
Never a seamless transition. I'm going through the same today restarting work on a model that has sat for a week while I thought, (dithered), about the next step. Enjoy the modeling, always more relaxing than the thinking part.
sp


I did some construction work on the Nieuport and continued the clean up and slight correction on the Pfalz. The Nieuport interior looks a bit rough but will shape up as more is added and rigging begins...I Hope  8)
RAGIII


Awesome work as always. I really enjoy your builds and your economy in finishing them. You finish in the time it takes me to finish a step...

Thanks Carl!
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: lone modeller on August 25, 2020, 05:18:41 AM
Too much thinking makes my brain hurt Rick! Which is why I too prefer to do the modelling - but then like you I do like to try to get things right.

The cockpit construction looks good - as does the engine.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on August 25, 2020, 12:22:10 PM
Nice work on the Pfalz fuselage halves with the corrections Rick , I removed the cowls on my to solve the issue . You N-17 pit is shape up wonderfully as well . :)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: GazzaS on August 25, 2020, 06:21:08 PM
I was considering the Roden Pfalz in the future.  I'll be interested to see how your work progresses.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: kensar on August 25, 2020, 09:50:45 PM
Glad to see you dealt with the ejection pin marks.  Many don't bother and they end up visible in an otherwise very nice build.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 26, 2020, 02:29:14 AM
Thanks for the comments Guys and Gal! I am STILL waiting on some PE turnbuckles for the SPADS so I will continue with these two for a while longer.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Bughunter on August 26, 2020, 02:57:23 AM
Rick, you showed often WNW models in your scale in your build threads.
Compared to that the actual kit part looks very, hmm "robust"? Like upscaled 1/48 models ...
So it needs a real modeler to make a nice looking model but I'm sure, you will manage it!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 26, 2020, 11:31:50 PM
Rick, you showed often WNW models in your scale in your build threads.
Compared to that the actual kit part looks very, hmm "robust"? Like upscaled 1/48 models ...
So it needs a real modeler to make a nice looking model but I'm sure, you will manage it!

Cheers,
Frank

I assume you are speaking about the Roden Pfalz  ;D Yes it is a bit rough. I intend to do some work on sprucing it up but will not go Full Brad Cancian or Terri by making a new interior framework
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 28, 2020, 08:33:48 AM
As I think a WW1 Ace said, Familiarity Breeds Contempt. I thought that having built two Copper State Nieuports this one would be a breeze. Well I managed to make a Great Kit difficult! I was applying pressure for a reason I do Not Remember and broke several interior parts loose and broke a cabane Strut! So all is back together with the worst being the seat being a bit out of alignment.
RAGIII


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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on August 28, 2020, 09:40:02 AM
I have been there before . I had a few repairs on the Pfalz fuselage because of to much pressure  :o ::)

Repairs look good though Rick , hope the seat doesn't pose to much issues down the road for you . Nice work on the pit by the way  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 28, 2020, 10:58:41 AM
I have been there before . I had a few repairs on the Pfalz fuselage because of to much pressure  :o ::)

Repairs look good though Rick , hope the seat doesn't pose to much issues down the road for you . Nice work on the pit by the way  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri! The seat will not pose any issues per se, just not quite lined up if viewed closely. As I don't enter contests and no one will be looking that closely it won't be noticed in the end!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Early Bird Fan on August 28, 2020, 04:17:35 PM
i think we've all been there and done that at some point, that's looking really nice and if you hadn't of mentioned it i'm sure we wouldn't have noticed  :D

Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Gisbod on August 29, 2020, 12:35:37 AM
Shame Rick,

But just par for the course for me, anyway, great save.

Guy
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: fredjocko on August 29, 2020, 04:03:46 AM
You are making great progress. The way you’re moving these will be done before you get the PE parts for the Spads.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: lone modeller on August 29, 2020, 05:39:31 AM
Too much pressure is a common complaint Rick - it even occurs with scratch builds - guess how I know? You have commented that nobody will notice the slight mis-alignment of the seat, so no need to worry too much. (Provided that you do not look too closely too often to remind yourself about the mis-alignment of course!!)

The seat belts look as though they are made from real leather with a suitably worn look too.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 29, 2020, 07:54:14 AM
Thanks Guys, I have progressed. I have glued the fuselage and upper rear fuselage decking to the forward section. The upper cowl panel is not glued in place: This May be where I leave this one for a while as the Turnbuckles finally arrived for My SPAD builds. August 9th to the 28th in just a regular Mail envelope  :(
RAGIII



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PS: I used putty just to make sure my glue joints were good. I ran out of Liquid glue so using Testors right now  8)
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: PrzemoL on August 29, 2020, 08:15:47 AM
Fine progress on both builds, Rick, despite the mishap with pressure on Nupe. Watching with great interest, especially that my next project will be CSM Ni17.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 29, 2020, 08:47:21 AM
Fine progress on both builds, Rick, despite the mishap with pressure on Nupe. Watching with great interest, especially that my next project will be CSM Ni17.

Thanks Przemol! I am sure your Nieuport build will be your usual build to go by and be envied!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on August 29, 2020, 11:15:36 AM
Awesome Rick , that is looking very fine indeed . Running out of glue sucks so I also have 3-6 bottles on hand ...spillage happens from time to time  ::) I do like the looks of the panels not in place yet . On my next one these will be left off .

Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: GazzaS on August 29, 2020, 03:54:37 PM
Tres bon, Monsieur!
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on August 30, 2020, 02:44:12 AM
Awesome Rick , that is looking very fine indeed . Running out of glue sucks so I also have 3-6 bottles on hand ...spillage happens from time to time  ::) I do like the looks of the panels not in place yet . On my next one these will be left off .

Terri

Thanks Terri. We have seen some great Nieuports built with those panels left off. I look forward to yours!
RAGIII


Tres bon, Monsieur!

Thanks Gaz!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 20, 2020, 11:13:11 AM
So the latest progress on the Nieuport and Pfalz. I have the Nieuport ready to prime.  I have assembled and added some smoke and mirrors detailing, plug wires and Valve Springs, to the engine for the Pfalz. I will not do much more as nothing is seen below the plug wires.

RAGIII



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PS: I have decided to do Hans Klein of Jasta 10 and Andrew Courtney Campbell of the Lafayette Escadrille as the Markings.

Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on September 20, 2020, 12:42:33 PM
Hey Rick , your N-23 is progressing fantastic and the Pfalz engine looks super in place .


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 21, 2020, 01:19:30 AM
Hey Rick , your N-23 is progressing fantastic and the Pfalz engine looks super in place .


Terri

Thanks Terri. Just taped together for now. Still have to build and paint the interior. The engine will look fine as like I said, Not much will be seen below the valve springs and plugs.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: lone modeller on September 21, 2020, 02:35:06 AM
Both of these are progressing well. Thanks for posting such clear photos of the engine - so useful as reference for us scratch builders!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 22, 2020, 12:01:03 AM
Both of these are progressing well. Thanks for posting such clear photos of the engine - so useful as reference for us scratch builders!

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. I have done the bare Minimum on detailing. Like I said not much will be visible  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 23, 2020, 11:01:40 AM
A very small update. I have painted the basic fuselage color, installed the engine and cockpit floor and frames. Just need to add control wires and some other details. I will also weather and try to represent some  indication of the srips used for construction.

RAGIII



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PS: Sharp eyyes will notice that the right MG is chopped off. I tried to figure out how to get this one to line up and fit through the right fuselage opening but failed. I figure it will be easier to add it after the halves are assembled  :o
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on September 23, 2020, 11:04:31 AM
Progress is progress  ;) Looking good Rick !


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 23, 2020, 11:07:40 AM
Thanks T! By the way, I forgot that the seat is just sitting in place and is NOT painted  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 23, 2020, 04:28:33 PM
Lovely work, Rick!
Seeing the Pfalz brings back fond memories.

Good luck!

vB  ;)
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: kensar on September 23, 2020, 09:59:12 PM
I see you are taking a pragmatic approach with the level of engine detail and the machine guns - smart!  Better to get this done than get bogged down in details that won't matter.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 24, 2020, 12:36:30 AM
Lovely work, Rick!
Seeing the Pfalz brings back fond memories.

Good luck!

vB  ;)

Thanks Bob. Glad you  are looking back Fondly to your beautiful build!
RAGIII


I see you are taking a pragmatic approach with the level of engine detail and the machine guns - smart!  Better to get this done than get bogged down in details that won't matter.

Yes, not seen, Not Modelled  8) I will add some wiring/piping along with the control wires. Still have to install the panels for the magnito and the control grip and triggers on the stick.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 24, 2020, 08:59:35 AM
Todays progress:
RAGIII


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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: smperry on September 24, 2020, 09:09:48 AM
Looking god Rick. Smart move to model only what can be seen.
sp
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on September 24, 2020, 09:20:58 AM
Most excellent work on the Pfalz pit Rick . Nice shade on the fuselage inside walls and frame work as well  :)


Terri

Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 24, 2020, 10:45:34 PM
Looking god Rick. Smart move to model only what can be seen.
sp

Thanks SP. It is a decent kit and will look good with just a few visible details added. It could be made great by going crazy building new frame work and opening panels but that is not My Mission  ;D
RAGIII


Most excellent work on the Pfalz pit Rick . Nice shade on the fuselage inside walls and frame work as well  :)


Terri



Thanks Terri! I am pleased so far  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 25, 2020, 08:22:57 AM
The final details have been added to the interior. The fuselage , lower wing, and tail plane are assembled bringing this one more or less in line with the Nieuport 23.
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on September 25, 2020, 11:34:24 AM
Your Pfalz is shaping up wonderfully Rick  :)

 How was the fit of the lower wing ?


Terri


Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 25, 2020, 01:39:19 PM
Thanks Terri. The lower wing took some tweaking and will require a little putty and sanding. Nothing near your Triplane build though  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 25, 2020, 11:10:59 PM
Coming together well, Rick.
Will you be adding the walk-way on the port wing? How about the seam tape along the spine of the fuselage?

vB
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: petrov27 on September 26, 2020, 12:29:21 AM
These are looking fantastic!

Any chance you would part with the 2nd/alternate cowl from the N17 kit? The one with the joins on each side instead of the top?
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 26, 2020, 12:32:51 AM
Coming together well, Rick.
Will you be adding the walk-way on the port wing? How about the seam tape along the spine of the fuselage?

vB

Thanks Bob. I will certainly add the seam tapes like I did on My DIIIa kits. I will have to find a good photo of the walkway and then probably will add it to the Pfalz.
RAGIII


These are looking fantastic!

Any chance you would part with the 2nd/alternate cowl from the N17 kit? The one with the joins on each side instead of the top?

Absolutely Yes Patrick. I think I have more than one anyway and it is of No use sitting in My Spare parts box  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: lone modeller on September 26, 2020, 01:26:56 AM
You do set a pace when building models Rick. I am glad that I am not in a race with you - you would win every time. In spite of speed there is no drop in the standard of your models. Bravo!
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on September 26, 2020, 09:06:17 AM
Thanks Terri. The lower wing took some tweaking and will require a little putty and sanding. Nothing near your Triplane build though  8)
RAGIII

I don't think they ever will be another one like that .  ;)


Terri

Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Old Man on September 27, 2020, 06:42:17 AM
Nice work indeed, Sir.

"Not seen, not modeled," is an excellent motto.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 27, 2020, 07:55:16 AM
You do set a pace when building models Rick. I am glad that I am not in a race with you - you would win every time. In spite of speed there is no drop in the standard of your models. Bravo!

Thanks Stephen. It may not be a Mike Norris build but I am Happy so far  8)
RAGIII


Nice work indeed, Sir.

Thanks for the positive comment Old Man !
RAGIII

"Not seen, not modeled," is an excellent motto.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Monty on September 27, 2020, 11:22:10 PM
Really nice work on both of them Rick! A pleasure to watch the the thread progress so well... Marc.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 27, 2020, 11:52:18 PM
Really nice work on both of them Rick! A pleasure to watch the the thread progress so well... Marc.

Thanks Marc!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 28, 2020, 10:09:50 AM
I managed to fill and sand the seams on the Pfalz today while also working on the DR1's  8)
RAGIII


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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on September 28, 2020, 09:20:42 PM
Thumbs up Rick ! :)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: GazzaS on September 29, 2020, 05:20:17 PM
Nice work, Rick!
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on September 29, 2020, 10:55:36 PM
Thumbs up Rick ! :)


Terri

Thanks Terri!
RAGIII


Nice work, Rick!

Thanks for the Comment Gaz!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Pup7309 on October 01, 2020, 12:49:28 PM
Love the dual build concept  :D
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on October 01, 2020, 03:10:13 PM
Rick...you are a machine...Looks awesome!
Dan
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 01, 2020, 10:49:24 PM
Love the dual build concept  :D

Thanks, It has been sort of My thing for a while now  ::)
RAGIII


Rick...you are a machine...Looks awesome!
Dan

Thanks Dan. When all is said and done I really don't finish more than most do it just looks that way because of the multiple kits in the thread  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 11, 2020, 07:50:58 AM
With the DR1 builds moving along I decided to a little work on the Pfalz. I added the access ports using Toms Model Works PE.
RAGIII


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PS: Does anyone have a clear photo of the walkway mentioned by Von Buckles?
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Radarman on October 11, 2020, 10:12:06 AM
RAGIII,
The build is looking great.
I think the walkway is illustrated pretty well in the Wingnut Wings Pfalz DIIIa instructions.

                                                                                                    Kevin
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 11, 2020, 10:57:21 AM
RAGIII,
The build is looking great.
I think the walkway is illustrated pretty well in the Wingnut Wings Pfalz DIIIa instructions.

                                                                                                    Kevin

Thanks for the comment and Info Kevin! I will check those instructions.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: William Adair on October 11, 2020, 10:54:07 PM
These are looking great and they are beautiful reference shots fir two smaller ones that I am building at the moment.  I ran into a similar conundrum with the starboard gun on the Pfalz.  Is it worth test fitting the exhausts to ensure they will have an uninterrupted fit?
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: lone modeller on October 12, 2020, 03:51:22 AM
That looks super Rick. Glad to see that you are giving these some attention again. I suspect that you will be finishing four models almost simultaneously .

Stephen.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 12, 2020, 03:55:21 AM
These are looking great and they are beautiful reference shots fir two smaller ones that I am building at the moment.  I ran into a similar conundrum with the starboard gun on the Pfalz.  Is it worth test fitting the exhausts to ensure they will have an uninterrupted fit?

I have been following your 1/144th builds and they are awesome! As for the exhaust fit, probably needs some tweaking but test fits show promise. I have a photo in the windsock Data File that shows a Captured DIII from the right rear. It looks as though there is an upward angle to the exhaust Not really pronounced but it is there.
RAGIII


That looks super Rick. Glad to see that you are giving these some attention again. I suspect that you will be finishing four models almost simultaneously .

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. Finishing all four at the same "General" time is the Plan  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 13, 2020, 08:13:53 AM
Today I made some fairleads for the controls from styrene rod cut at an angle. I will most likely need to sand them a bit more once primed and I can tell how they look. In addition I added PE from Toms to the Pfalz wing, as well as the control horns.

RAGIII


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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Radarman on October 13, 2020, 11:18:48 AM
RAGIII,
The Pfalz is shaping up nicely.

                                   Kevin
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on October 13, 2020, 11:40:20 AM
RAGIII,
The Pfalz is shaping up nicely.

                                   Kevin

Second what Kevin said !


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: jeroen_R90S on October 13, 2020, 06:17:11 PM
That Roden Pfalz is really tempting me -I have the WnW D.IIIa but somehow the original D.III always looked even more elegant to me... Despite it being probably a bit more work than the WnW version. ;)
Great addions and improvements, too :)

Jeroen
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 14, 2020, 06:55:10 AM
Thanks Terri, Kevin, and Jeroen!  I appreciate your support! Today I broke out a 30 year old bottle of Floquil Old Silver and primed the Pfalz and Nieuport. Final finishes will be Tamiya mixtures  ;D
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Radarman on October 14, 2020, 07:36:27 AM
RAGIII,
Now I understand why the Floquil Old Silver was so popular. It looks like it has just the right sheen.

                                                                                                                  Kevin
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on October 14, 2020, 10:10:32 AM
I really miss Floquil Old Silver for that very reason , perfect for natural metal finishes . Both are looking good Rick , looking forward on seeing your choice for silver/grey on the Pfalz .  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: kensar on October 14, 2020, 09:33:35 PM
Nice couple of silver birds, Rick.  Some markings will really make them pop.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Europapete on October 15, 2020, 12:39:54 AM
Yup, me too. Am down to my last bottle. Looking really good Rick. Regards, Pete in RI
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 15, 2020, 07:45:56 AM
Thanks Kevin, Terri, Ken and Pete, I appreciate your continued support!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Old Man on October 15, 2020, 12:15:44 PM
Those do have quite a sheen, Sir.

Shaping up nicely.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: FAf on October 15, 2020, 10:39:54 PM
Silvering isn't usually what we want, but this looks great! :D
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: lone modeller on October 16, 2020, 01:46:29 AM
The radiator on the Pfalz looks excellent Rick - a big improvement on plastic parts.

That silver finish is also very realistic - as others have commented just the right amount of sheen. Two more excellent models on the way here....

Stephen.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Monty on October 16, 2020, 01:55:53 AM
Looking very good Rick... that radiator is impressive... and I too, like the sheen! Marc.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 16, 2020, 08:10:59 AM
Thanks to all for the positive and encouraging comments! So today is only a Very Small update. I masked the outline for the rudder cross on the Pfalz then sprayed the Jasta 10 Chrome Yellow on the tail and Nose. Next will be the overall Silbergrau finish.
RAGIII



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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Radarman on October 16, 2020, 08:55:24 AM
RAGIII,
That’s a great combination of colors. The Pfalz was one classy looking plane.

                                                                               Kevin
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on October 16, 2020, 10:28:03 PM
This is starting to get exciting ...the silver/grey is coming up !


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Old Man on October 18, 2020, 12:57:15 AM
That Pfalz is going to be quite the looker, Sir!

Speaking in a purely artistic sense, the silver and deep yellow make a great combination of colors.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: lone modeller on October 18, 2020, 05:26:15 AM
The silver finish is just right - not too shiny but just enough sheen. As others have written, yellow and silver make an attractive combination.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 18, 2020, 07:23:56 AM
This is starting to get exciting ...the silver/grey is coming up !


Terri

Thanks Terri. Yes the Silbergrau will come soon. But first....
RAGIII


That Pfalz is going to be quite the looker, Sir!

Speaking in a purely artistic sense, the silver and deep yellow make a great combination of colors.

Yes, the Final greyish/silver and yellow with the black stripe should look Nice  8)
RAGIII


The silver finish is just right - not too shiny but just enough sheen. As others have written, yellow and silver make an attractive combination.

Stephen.

The final finish will be just a TAD less silver but should look good...I Hope! I decided I had used a cross with proportions that were too large. Since I was going to have to re do I just went ahead and sprayed the entire tail yellow. Then I ordered a set of Montex Masks that have all I will need for all of the crosses. I hope they don't take too long getting here from Hannants  ::) To meet the minimum I also ordered the Bren Gun PE for the SSW DIII  8)
RAGIII


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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Pup7309 on October 18, 2020, 04:23:56 PM
Looking forward to the next stage of painting, nice work!
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 19, 2020, 03:49:09 AM
Looking forward to the next stage of painting, nice work!

Thanks for commenting. I have added rib tapes prior to painting the Silbergrau. They will be subtle but that is what I am after.
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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: lone modeller on October 19, 2020, 05:42:11 AM
I still think that the silver finish looks good - although I realise that it is an undercoat. The top coat will be truly striking if this is anything to go by.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 19, 2020, 08:09:02 PM
I still think that the silver finish looks good - although I realise that it is an undercoat. The top coat will be truly striking if this is anything to go by.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. I have to add the tapes to the upper wing then we shall see what the final finish looks like  :-\
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: fredjocko on October 20, 2020, 09:57:11 PM
As always, another stunner! I like the idea of using silver with the silver grey overcoat. I cannot wait to see the finished product.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 21, 2020, 12:34:38 AM
As always, another stunner! I like the idea of using silver with the silver grey overcoat. I cannot wait to see the finished product.

Thanks for the comment. Masking off the nose and tail today then we shall see how the Silbergrau goes  :o

RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Bughunter on October 21, 2020, 05:52:02 AM
Oh, even more progress here with paint involved! The metal look is great.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 21, 2020, 06:13:03 AM
Oh, even more progress here with paint involved! The metal look is great.

Cheers,
Frank

Thanks Frank! I have finally applied the "Silbergraua". At first I thought I had gone too grey. Next I thought I had not gone "Grey" enough. In the end it compares to My previous Pfalz builds  ;D
RAGIII

PS: I forgot to mention I added the foot step/walkway using paper and liquid cement.

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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on October 21, 2020, 11:33:28 AM
I like it a lot Rick , you have the right balance for the scale , very well done !


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 21, 2020, 11:31:39 PM
I like it a lot Rick , you have the right balance for the scale , very well done !


Terri

Thanks Terri. Another thing I am happy with is the rib tapes. They can be seen but are subtle  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: gedmundson on October 21, 2020, 11:35:32 PM
Nice work as always Rick!
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Old Man on October 22, 2020, 03:57:10 AM
That is looking very nice, Sir. Thanks for the look at the earlier build, too. Some of this stuff makes you wonder how much spare time ground-crew had....
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 22, 2020, 07:18:23 AM
Nice work as always Rick!
Cheers,
Gary

Thanks Gary, always appreciate you looking in!
RAGIII


That is looking very nice, Sir. Thanks for the look at the earlier build, too. Some of this stuff makes you wonder how much spare time ground-crew had....

Thanks Old Man! I took the photo of the other build so I could see if the two were close on the Silbergrau! They were close enough for Government work  ;D

RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: dr 1 ace on October 27, 2020, 07:44:29 AM
No lack of good work going on with all your projects underway !

Ed
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 27, 2020, 08:10:45 AM
No lack of good work going on with all your projects underway !

Ed

Thanks Amigo! I painted the black stripe and applied the fuselage cross on the Pfalz today. I should be able to continue with construction soon. The Nieuport is ready for markings but I am still deciding on what scheme to use  ::)
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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on October 27, 2020, 09:14:10 AM
Man Rick , that is truly beautiful ! Will look even better with the next up-date  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 27, 2020, 09:34:48 AM
Man Rick , that is truly beautiful ! Will look even better with the next up-date  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri! If the Queen of the Pfalz approves that Means a Lot!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Radarman on October 27, 2020, 12:51:38 PM
RAGIII,
That is a great colour combination. It really "pops" out at you.

                                                                 Kevin
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: FAf on October 27, 2020, 08:01:23 PM
👍👍👍
Looks really good! Amazing how paint and markings change the appearance of a model.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: rhallinger on October 27, 2020, 10:53:08 PM
The Pfalz looks beautiful Rick!  Colors spot on and crisp markings. 

I must ask though--how do you keep four models proceeding at the same time on your bench?  I can barely keep track of a single kit! :o

Best regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 28, 2020, 12:22:09 AM
RAGIII,
That is a great colour combination. It really "pops" out at you.

                                                                 Kevin

Thanks. One of My Favorite Pfalz schemes  8)
RAGIII


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Looks really good! Amazing how paint and markings change the appearance of a model.
/Fredrik

Thanks Fredrik. You are correct about how colors and markings change things. I am now at a point were I begin to actually like the build  ::)

RAGIII


The Pfalz looks beautiful Rick!  Colors spot on and crisp markings. 

I must ask though--how do you keep four models proceeding at the same time on your bench?  I can barely keep track of a single kit! :o

Best regards,

Bob

Thanks Bob! I am just good at searching My whole Model room for hours to find the parts I Misplaced  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Russell Niles on October 29, 2020, 04:49:06 AM
Following both builds along, really enjoying watching you.
Great build on both kits Rick. Question though, What did you use for the Pfalz Silbergrau?

Russ
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 29, 2020, 05:19:54 AM
Following both builds along, really enjoying watching you.
Great build on both kits Rick. Question though, What did you use for the Pfalz Silbergrau?

Russ


Thanks Russ! In the end it was a mix of Tamiya Aluminum and a blue grey. I don't measure...just add until I like it so I can't get any closer than that  :o
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 31, 2020, 08:10:48 AM
It has been a while since I updated the Nieuport 23. I finally decided on Markings. I was originally going to stay within My Squadron collections and do one from N124. I decided to go outside of My usual and do one of the Russian Options from the kit  8)
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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on October 31, 2020, 10:02:21 AM
Very nice job on the Nieuport Rick , nice colourful scheme !


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on October 31, 2020, 11:12:08 AM
Very nice job on the Nieuport Rick , nice colourful scheme !


Terri

Thanks Terri. Some weathering should pull it all together!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: lone modeller on November 01, 2020, 02:39:36 AM
Super aluminium finish there Rick. Nice to see an aircraft in Russian markings too - an interesting change from the western front!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 01, 2020, 06:48:14 AM
Super aluminium finish there Rick. Nice to see an aircraft in Russian markings too - an interesting change from the western front!

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. I was originally going to do a LaFayette  Bird but decided it would be too similar to the 17 and "to be finished" 24.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 02, 2020, 08:57:26 AM
Small update. I drilled , painted, and attached the exhaust. No fit problems created by my altering the section over the MG. I also have attached the cabane and interplane struts. If all goes well I will mount the upper wing tomorrow.

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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: kensar on November 02, 2020, 11:13:34 PM
Making great progress on these two birds.  The aluminum really looks good on the Nieuport, and the markings are very interesting.
The engine detail looks very good on the Pfalz.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on November 03, 2020, 12:24:32 AM
Can't wait to see the top wing mounted on Pfalz  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 03, 2020, 12:45:28 AM
Making great progress on these two birds.  The aluminum really looks good on the Nieuport, and the markings are very interesting.
The engine detail looks very good on the Pfalz.

Thanks Ken. I appreciate the comments.
RAGIII

Can't wait to see the top wing mounted on Pfalz  :)


Terri


Thanks Terri! I am undecided as to which aircraft will be on the bench today. Probably the first one I can uncover from all of the Debris!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 03, 2020, 09:45:00 AM
Here you go Terri. I would love to say all went well but it is My Model so there had to be a Disaster....Right?  I tried mounting the upper wing last night. Total wing collapse....really ugly, knocked off the elevator and several PE parts  >:( It was then that I remembered having the "Spare" early style Interplane struts from WNW. I drilled larger locating holes and after a couple of beers all went well! So now I just need to fix the damage  :o
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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: NinetythirdLiberator on November 03, 2020, 01:30:11 PM
Hang in there Rick...we are ALL enjoying this!  Looks really nice from my end.

Dan
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 03, 2020, 11:59:49 PM
Hang in there Rick...we are ALL enjoying this!  Looks really nice from my end.

Dan

Thanks Dan. I "Think" I am past the biggest Hurdle now, or so I hope  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on November 04, 2020, 02:31:02 AM
That's the ticket  ;) So you are trying to copy me with mishaps are ya ...cool ...starting a new trend  :)

She looks awesome Rick with the wing in place  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 06, 2020, 05:42:07 AM
That's the ticket  ;) So you are trying to copy me with mishaps are ya ...cool ...starting a new trend  :)

She looks awesome Rick with the wing in place  :)


Terri

Thanks as always Terri for keeping up and commenting!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 08, 2020, 12:13:05 PM
While debating some things on My other builds I have placed all of the major rigging wires into place on the Pfalz. Just need to tighten them tomorrow.
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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: pepperman42 on November 09, 2020, 12:48:06 AM
Very sharp. You are a building machine!!!

Steve
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Monty on November 09, 2020, 02:12:20 AM
Looking good, Rick! And great recovery with the struts. Fast progress, too! Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on November 09, 2020, 03:05:59 AM
And the rigging begins , awesome !

Do you find it easier to paint the cockpit coming after the top wing is in place ? Man I would be getting paint every where except for the combing !


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 09, 2020, 03:44:15 AM
Very sharp. You are a building machine!!!

Steve

Thanks Steve!
RAGIII

Looking good, Rick! And great recovery with the struts. Fast progress, too! Regards, Marc.

Thanks for the comment Marc!
RAGIII


And the rigging begins , awesome !

Do you find it easier to paint the cockpit coming after the top wing is in place ? Man I would be getting paint every where except for the combing !


Terri

This morning I started tightening wires. It is going fairly well but I have stopped for the day to watch Football  8) As for the coaming it is easy to reach even with the wing mounted....Or so I Hope  ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 09, 2020, 07:06:06 AM
So after the first half of the Game I went into the model room and secured and tightened the rigging. All went well other than some obvious touch up needed on the paint. Next attaching the gear and radiator piping.
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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: kensar on November 09, 2020, 10:37:59 PM
Looks fine, Rick.  At least no wing collapse!
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on November 10, 2020, 01:02:53 AM
Excellent job on the rigging Rick , clean and tight !


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 10, 2020, 01:24:23 AM
Looks fine, Rick.  At least no wing collapse!

Thanks Ken. Yeah I think it will hold together now...At least I hope  ;D
RAGIII


Excellent job on the rigging Rick , clean and tight !


Terri

Thanks Terri. I think it will look better once the lines are painted and I add some "Smoke and Mirrors" turnbuckles  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 10, 2020, 07:45:17 AM
Today I painted the rigging wires and added the gear legs/tail skid to the Pfalz.
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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on November 12, 2020, 01:09:11 PM
Very nice job on the Ricking Rick ! ;)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 12, 2020, 01:19:42 PM
Very nice job on the Ricking Rick ! ;)


Terri

Thanks Terri!
EAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: FAf on November 12, 2020, 08:47:30 PM
Great job! It's turning into a very beautiful and eye-catching aircraft!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 13, 2020, 12:36:40 AM
Great job! It's turning into a very beautiful and eye-catching aircraft!
/Fredrik

Thanks Fredrik!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: lone modeller on November 14, 2020, 03:46:11 AM
Having just looked at your Fokker builds and now these, I am still amazed at how quickly you are able to build such high quality moddels. This Pfalz is certainly one of your best models - that sliver grey finish is truly amazing.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Monty on November 14, 2020, 07:05:51 PM
Looking so good, Rick! Very nice rigging and the yellow just pops! Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 16, 2020, 11:17:01 PM
Having just looked at your Fokker builds and now these, I am still amazed at how quickly you are able to build such high quality moddels. This Pfalz is certainly one of your best models - that sliver grey finish is truly amazing.

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. I haven't done much on this one since posting  other  than adding the wheels. I have worked a little on the Nieuport so perhaps another update sooon.
RAGIII

Looking so good, Rick! Very nice rigging and the yellow just pops! Regards, Marc.

Thanks MArc!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 17, 2020, 09:48:22 AM
I have done a small amount of work on the Nieuport. I finished applying the roundels, worked a little more on the engine, and cut away the cowling per the original aircraft. I did screw up on the cowling. I butchered the correct cowling and found I did not have another in My spares. So I used one with the joints on the sides modified it to the ones on the top, and cut away the bottom. Not perfect but it will work  ::)
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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Borsos on November 18, 2020, 03:57:36 AM
They both are looking fantastic, Rick. Great progress!
Andreas
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 18, 2020, 05:36:17 AM
They both are looking fantastic, Rick. Great progress!
Andreas

Thanks Andreas! After about a Month and a Half I have finally received the Montex mask set for the Pfalz. ( 12 days in New York before sending it on to My Local PO). SO today I might try masking and painting the rudder cross on the Pfalz  8) I also got the Bren Gun PE for the Roden SSW DIII. A project I intend to do next year!
RAGIII


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Just a Note on the masks and for that matter Pheons Pfalz DIIIa set. They went by info from GvW and Osprey on the Jasta 10 markings for  Heldman,s 4117/17.  In fact the aircraft depicted was a DIII as confirmed by Heldmans reports and GvW and the Windsock Data file breakdown of these aircraft by serial #. So use with a Roden DIII and eliminate the "A" from the serial Number   ;D
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: Alexis on November 18, 2020, 09:50:15 AM
Rick , Love the Nieuport !


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.
Post by: RAGIII on November 18, 2020, 10:01:32 AM
Rick , Love the Nieuport !


Terri

Thanks Terri! This is NO LONGER a DUAL BUILD! I dropped the Pfalz while attempting to paint the Rudder cross. A total loss. Tried repairing the damage but just got worse as each attempt created another problem. No fault of the kit Just Me!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.: Pfalz crashed
Post by: William Adair on November 18, 2020, 08:25:02 PM
Oh no.  I am so sorry to hear about the Pfalz.   :(
I was really enjoying seeing it come together and it was a valuable reference for my little scratch one too.  I hope in time it can be recovered.  I'm glad you still have the Nieuport though (my other all time favourite).  It's looking terrific!
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.: Pfalz crashed
Post by: Alexis on November 18, 2020, 11:15:42 PM
OMG , sorry to hear about the mishap Rick . Is it new struts you need to get her back on track ? .


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.: Pfalz crashed
Post by: rhallinger on November 19, 2020, 12:04:10 AM
That's a shame Rick, as the Pfalz was looking so nice.  I feel your pain!  Ah well, onwards and upwards.  Carry on with the Nieuport, and you can circle back on the Pfalz in some fashion later.

Best regards,

Bob
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.: Pfalz crashed
Post by: Europapete on November 19, 2020, 12:18:28 AM
That's aweful. Sorry to hear that Rick. On a lighter side, maybe we could start  a column entitled "Show us your disasters" where we all post pics of this sort of thing?? Regards, Pete in RI
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.: Pfalz crashed
Post by: kensar on November 19, 2020, 12:23:25 AM
That's too bad, Rick.  It was really coming along nicely.   :(
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.: Pfalz crashed
Post by: Monty on November 19, 2020, 01:21:16 AM
I'm really sorry about the Pfalz's hard landing, Rick, I suppose, just like the originals, our creations are prone to this! I get used to a certain mortality in my own endeavors... But the Nieuport will make up for it! Regards, Marc.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.: Pfalz crashed
Post by: Borsos on November 19, 2020, 01:22:53 AM
Oh what a pity!  :(
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.: Pfalz crashed
Post by: Bughunter on November 19, 2020, 04:40:06 AM
This is enough to make you cry!  :'(
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.: Pfalz crashed
Post by: lcarroll on November 19, 2020, 07:55:27 AM
    Very sorry to hear that Rick. I'd bet that if you just shelve it for a while it will look repairable when you next check it out ....... In the mean time you've got the Nieuport to keep you in good spirits!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.: Pfalz crashed
Post by: RAGIII on November 19, 2020, 08:54:01 AM
Thanks for all of the Condolences Guys and Gal! I really appreciate the thoughts  ;D The Pfalz Won the Battle but in the end I will win the War. No , not on this one but on a replacement kit I hope to purchase in the near future. I love the scheme and want it in My collection! As for the Nieuport I made small progress today and hope to do more tomorrow!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.: Pfalz crashed
Post by: Bill_S on November 20, 2020, 02:48:53 AM
Ugh. I feel your pain, Rick. One of the worst things I've ever done was to try and catch my WNW DH.2 as it fell from the table.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.: Pfalz crashed
Post by: lone modeller on November 20, 2020, 04:47:18 AM
I have been catching up Rick and was admiring the Pfalz...... oh no what a disaster! That is so frustrating and disappointing at the same time. I was pleased to read that you do not intend to gibve up. Are there any parts that you could salvage for the spares box?

The Nieuport is looking good though and I am sure that no-one will notice the cowling. I also hope that this one does not get dropped.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale.:Cancelled
Post by: RAGIII on November 20, 2020, 07:02:27 AM
I have been catching up Rick and was admiring the Pfalz...... oh no what a disaster! That is so frustrating and disappointing at the same time. I was pleased to read that you do not intend to gibve up. Are there any parts that you could salvage for the spares box?

The Nieuport is looking good though and I am sure that no-one will notice the cowling. I also hope that this one does not get dropped.

Stephen.

Thanks again Stephen. I saved a few parts like the engine and seat etc. In this case the structural rigging worked against Me. It tried and succeeded in generally holding the wings together but at the cost of breaking struts. The final straw was trying to get the gear legs back in place and splitting one of the struts at the axle connection. Like I said I will tackle this kit and scheme again. Hopefully around Feb. I can get one as My self given Birthday present...and who knows there May be a Roden SPAD by then  8)

RAGIII

Thanks To ALL for your Support over the years on My builds. I am Not going to be posting in the Near future. I don't have the Heart to go on!
RAGIII/AKA Rick Geisler
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on November 28, 2020, 10:07:39 AM
So I have continued on with the Nieuport 23. I have weathered heavily per the original Russian bird. I also added the upper wing. Rigging is in place and needs to be tightened.
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/FRbTdYSf/128335727-4205451456148561-8340191829207677619-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/Jzg69Vmh/128352523-4205451352815238-5994934122728313884-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Radarman on November 28, 2020, 10:56:36 AM
RAGIII,
I'm glad to see the Nieuport receiving some attention. The weathering looks the part.

                                                                                                          Kevin
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on November 28, 2020, 11:12:22 AM
Thanks Kevin, the Nieuport 23 is well on the way to completion.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Alexis on November 28, 2020, 11:33:39 AM
She is turning out to be very stunning so far Rick  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: pepperman42 on November 28, 2020, 11:36:00 AM
Looks very sharp!!

Steve
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Vickers on November 28, 2020, 02:21:06 PM
Your N.23 is looking great! That silver dope finish is marvelous, especially with all of that heavy staining and oil residue.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on November 29, 2020, 12:46:57 AM
She is turning out to be very stunning so far Rick  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri!
RAGIII


Looks very sharp!!

Steve

Thanks for Commenting Steve
RAGIII


Your N.23 is looking great! That silver dope finish is marvelous, especially with all of that heavy staining and oil residue.

Thanks. I like the Silver, Floquil Old Silver with a slight overspray of Extra Color Weiss Aluminum.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on November 29, 2020, 08:29:23 AM
I worked on the Nieuport a bit more today. I added the Vickers, painted some leather details, and added the rudder and landing gear.
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/X7CcKhB0/128300183-4208160159211024-5232366225041231281-n.jpg)



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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Alexis on November 29, 2020, 10:16:29 AM
 :) :) :) :)

Is the mono line ? Different for you to be using ...



Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on November 29, 2020, 12:33:21 PM
:) :) :) :)

Is the mono line ? Different for you to be using ...



Terri

Terri, the Mono is My Go to rigging . Only when the painful necessity arises do I go to stretched sprue  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Monty on November 29, 2020, 04:57:01 PM
Really nice work Rick! I do love the feel of your weathering, very authentic and certainly adds a lot to the model... rigging coming on beautifully! Regards, Marc
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: William Adair on November 29, 2020, 09:18:11 PM
Looking really nice!  The weathering and discolouration looks very natural an realistic.  Got to be proud of that.  :)
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on November 29, 2020, 11:54:49 PM
Really nice work Rick! I do love the feel of your weathering, very authentic and certainly adds a lot to the model... rigging coming on beautifully! Regards, Marc

Thanks Marc. I appreciate the comments.
RAGIII

Looking really nice!  The weathering and discolouration looks very natural an realistic.  Got to be proud of that.  :)

Thanks William. Your comments are appreciated!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on December 01, 2020, 05:43:05 AM
I tightened up the Main rigging lines today. It only took about 20 minutes and unusually for Me I had no issues  ::) Next up is adding the control lines and gear rigging, then painting the wires and adding smoke and mirror buckles!
RAGIII




(https://i.postimg.cc/7LrRKVh5/128704910-4213857951974578-5533423257759097647-n.jpg)



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Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Monty on December 01, 2020, 05:51:56 AM
This is coming along so beautifully, Rick! I'm enjoying the creative process...

Regards,
Marc
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Alexis on December 01, 2020, 06:28:27 AM
Sweet job on the rigging Rick  ;)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Fvdm on December 01, 2020, 07:11:01 AM
Great build and rigging. You say you're gonna paint the riggingwires. Does the paint stick well to the monoline? Can't you use a sharpie?
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on December 01, 2020, 07:35:50 AM
This is coming along so beautifully, Rick! I'm enjoying the creative process...

Regards,
Marc

Thanks Marc. I appreciate the comment!
RAGIII

Sweet job on the rigging Rick  ;)


Terri

Thanks Terri! As always I appreciate you following along!
RAGIII


Great build and rigging. You say you're gonna paint the riggingwires. Does the paint stick well to the monoline? Can't you use a sharpie?

Thanks for the comments. I have used Sharpies in the past before attaching. I looked at some of the builds Des posted and realized I liked his "Steel" painted wires. So I have been painting them using Valejo steel thinned considerably. Works just fine!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: William Adair on December 01, 2020, 07:48:13 PM
Looking fantastic, I am getting very envious of all these beautiful 1/32 subjects.  :)
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on December 02, 2020, 10:31:36 PM
Looking fantastic, I am getting very envious of all these beautiful 1/32 subjects.  :)

Thanks  for the comment. I wish I could build two TINY Pfalz aircraft from scratch  ;D  I only have a few parts left to attach and still a tad of weathering to do on the upper wings of the Nieuport. The rigging is finished and I added the control rods to the upper wing.
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/yNDk9k8Y/DSCF8689.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/15SnTmJJ/DSCF8686.jpg)
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: kensar on December 02, 2020, 10:55:25 PM
That is looking great, Rick.  I would go so far as to say its one of your best.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on December 03, 2020, 06:00:16 AM
That is looking great, Rick.  I would go so far as to say its one of your best.


Thanks Ken. As always your comment is appreciated! I know where all of the glitches and glue blobs are though  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Alexis on December 03, 2020, 09:40:34 AM
Every up-date gets better and better .  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Vickers on December 03, 2020, 04:13:23 PM
Wonderful to see this one lining up on final, Rick. Besides all of the great work you've put into this one as illustrated thus far, the very subtle contrast between the cowling and silver dope really highlights your mastery of the craft.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Borsos on December 03, 2020, 05:47:38 PM
Without any politeness regarding the break of the Pfalz I honestly can say that this is a fantastic model in a great paint sheme, Rick.
Andreas
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: FokkerFodder on December 03, 2020, 05:56:35 PM
A great job of a favourite scheme! Your multiple builds are impressive... I struggle to finish anything! Cheers Matt
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on December 03, 2020, 11:19:15 PM
Every up-date gets better and better .  :)


Terri

Thanks Terri!
RAGIII


Wonderful to see this one lining up on final, Rick. Besides all of the great work you've put into this one as illustrated thus far, the very subtle contrast between the cowling and silver dope really highlights your mastery of the craft.

Thank You for the kind comment! I used a Satin varnish on the Fabric .
 and gloss on the cowling. I think it gives the right impression.

RAGIII


Without any politeness regarding the break of the Pfalz I honestly can say that this is a fantastic model in a great paint sheme, Rick.
Andreas

Thanks Andreas! I appreciate your comments!
RAGIII


A great job of a favourite scheme! Your multiple builds are impressive... I struggle to finish anything! Cheers Matt

Thanks Matt. I am glad you enjoy My Multiple builds ( Sometimes Multiple Disasters  ;D )
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: lone modeller on December 04, 2020, 03:56:33 AM
I am unable to visit your thread for a couple of days and.....hey presto you are nearly finished!

Superb Rick - nuff said!!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on December 04, 2020, 07:42:05 AM
I am unable to visit your thread for a couple of days and.....hey presto you are nearly finished!

Superb Rick - nuff said!!

Stephen.

Thanks Stephen. Today I added the last of the parts. Just a bit of weathering on the upper wings and it is done. These should be the last photos before it is posted in the completed section  8)

RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/bNP51Z19/129622101-4222604947766545-6794716640475645111-n.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/bNRBgqTc/129282836-4222604324433274-4429099534712499466-n.jpg)
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Alexis on December 04, 2020, 09:17:37 AM
This turned out to be your best yet Rick , Wow !


Terri
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on December 07, 2020, 12:02:21 AM
This turned out to be your best yet Rick , Wow !


Terri

Thanks Terri. The Nieuport is Now officially done so this closes out the build log  8)
RAGIII



(https://i.postimg.cc/ZnyRRXRV/IMG-20201205-185341617.jpg)
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: rhallinger on December 07, 2020, 01:49:51 AM
Great job Rick!  Looks fantastic. ;D  What technique did you use for the subtle rib shading on the wings?

Best,

Bob
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on December 07, 2020, 02:02:45 AM
Great job Rick!  Looks fantastic. ;D  What technique did you use for the subtle rib shading on the wings?

Best,

Bob

Thanks Bob. The wings were Weathered/shaded using the "Oil Dot' technique. I used gold ochre, burnt umber and black dots, blended them, then used a wide slightly wet brush to remove most of the color.
RAGIII
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: Fvdm on December 08, 2020, 08:17:27 AM
This is one to be proud of. Wonderful build.
Title: Re: Dual Build: CSM Nieuport XXIII & Roden Pfalz DIII 1/32nd scale
Post by: RAGIII on December 08, 2020, 01:26:59 PM
Thanks for the comment Completed Model Photos are posted:


https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11732.msg218845#msg218845

RAGIII