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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Dave W on August 01, 2020, 11:24:47 AM
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Roden has announced it is resuming production of WW1 aircraft kits and our Forum's poll on the most wanted new kits has been an influence in their decision to resume WW1 production.
Roden President Vladimir Chumak has been greatly encouraged by our poll and our enthusiasm for Roden to produce new WW1 aircraft kits and says the first of the new kits is likely to be released early next year.
At this stage they are focusing on 1/32 scale to test the market, and I'm delighted to say our forum poll number one wish- the Spad XIII - has been added to the likely first new releases. Two other poll highlights- the Avro 504K and Sopwith One and a Half Strutter - comprise the intended first three releases. The sequence of releases is yet to be decided.
Roden's return to new production of WW1 aircraft is a consequence of Wingnuts closing down and our Forum has been a major influence in the decision, which I think is a world first for model websites! Well done everyone and huge thanks to you all for your support of the Roden poll.
Vladimir says Roden have been closely following our forum and taking note of the forum members' wishes and this is significant.
At this stage Roden are not committing themselves on new 1/48 and 1/72 scale subjects but if the customer demand is there and we support them with sales, all things are possible.
This is all great news for the Forum and I'm very proud of what our online community has achieved.
More details will be published later but in the meantime celebrate the news that more 1/32 aircraft kits are on the way!
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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This is exciting news , Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter in 32 scale ! Me want one !!!!
Thanks Dave for sharing this news with us , my day is getting better and better !
Terri
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This excellent news and 3 great choices. Years ago, I bought several 1/48 Roden Mercddes engine sprees as they were the best replacement for the undernourished Eduard DIII's. Great service on that order.
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Thanks Dave and Vladimir!
I need to get building! Summer SUCKS, and I need to get that bench cleared for real aircraft! :)
Spad XIII excellent start and those others are on my list too!
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Excellent news, well done everybody.
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This is good news indeed. Roden has always made a good kit and were one of the first to introduce 1/32nd WWI Plastic Kits. I am in the final throes of their Fokker DR.I and find it an enjoyable kit. I look forward to seeing what they come out with and am sure to lighten the check book on their new releases as well.
Thank you Roden, Vladimir and Dave for keeping us informed and Roden for taking that leap of faith and starting up research and production of 1/32nd WWI Kits.
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Awesome news! I didn’t vote for Strutter but will get one or two. New tool Spad put me down for at least 3 ;D
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HOLY *****!!!!!!!
delightful news. i'll have one 504k, a few 1 1/2 strutters, and a squadron of SPAD XIIIs.
hopefully they plan to keep the existing kits going too?
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Thanks for the information, Dave! The S.XIII does seem to be a logical choice for Roden and, given their success with Albatros D.III, having many parts in common I'm still crossing my fingers for an Oeffag version or two. Whatever they do in the coming years, it's a ray of hope indeed.
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this is really good news!
spectacular results for the forum too!
i am very happy, i can’t wait to see their release....
ciao
edo
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an OEFFAG Albatros is top of my wish list.
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This is really interesting..
I was away from the forum when the poll was done, but it is great that a manufacturer is playing close attendance to its potential customers - well done to them..
504K appeals to me, I have one in 1:48 but from a British perspective this is an iconic aircraft. Less so the Spad for me, but it looks like there will be something for everyone to be happy.!
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Wohoo great news, hopefully new and never kittet i 1/32 scale subjects...
Preferably a B.e.2c or Avro 504 ;)
Kent
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Great news for 1/32 WW.I aircraft Fan!
three excellent subjects
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Start saving for these next releases (and relative aftermarkets too), thanks to Roden for their decision.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Great news, indeed. I'll need to start planning some purchases.
I hope they can improve the engineering of the new kits with better attachment points. A harder styrene would be nice, also, for those in-scale landing gear legs. The level of detail has been good, but improving that would really be a plus.
May have to re-think my next planned scratchbuild (Avro 504), but it looks like I have time to get that in before Roden releases one.
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Amazingly pleasant news! As for me, I will be getting the complete trio of the announced first possible releases.
It really seems that nature does not suffer vacuum!
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WOW! Three releases that are sure to be great sellers. The Strutter is one I have wished for for years in order to finish My 43 squadron RFC / RAF collection! I also still have a few SPADS I would like to build in the future. Looking forward to the time when these come out
RAGIII
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This is great news, and I'll definity buy these to encourage them to develop more 1:32 WWI aircraft.
But I do have a question, where is the announcement? I don't see it on their website or facebook page.
-frank
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They can count on me to purchase several of their new releases.
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Same here. I will buy at least one of anything new they release just on principle. Must encourage good behavior :-)
sp
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This is great news, and I'll definity buy these to encourage them to develop more 1:32 WWI aircraft.
But I do have a question, where is the announcement? I don't see it on their website or facebook page.
-frank
My "Guess" is that the initial announcement was Dave's post 8)
RAGIII
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Brilliant news, and great choice of subjetcs. I'll get a 1/2 strutter for sure, and probably a SPAD or two.
Still hoping for a series of OEFFAG Albatrossen ;)
Thanks to the Forum and Roden!
/Mikael
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The SPAD is one of my top wants so definitely will be picking that kit up in multiples if it does come to production! The other two possibles listed were not top interest for me personally but I will support the effort and pick them up as well.
I will add my name to those hoping still for OEFFAG Albatrossen in 1/32
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Still hoping for a series of OEFFAG Albatrossen ;)
This would be wonderful and a big seller
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I am so happy to hear this news.
I wish Roden every success going forward and I look forward to supporting their efforts with kits in stash.
Thanks for this great news, Dave!
Who would of thought a kit company would take notice from a forum... But we all know this isn't just any old forum, it's the most respected WW1 forum out there.
Happy days!
Chin Chin!
vB
(https://i.ibb.co/0QnXxMv/Cheers.jpg)
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Nice pic BvB.. in 1:1 scale too. Have you been to that “factory”.?
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Nice pic BvB.. in 1:1 scale too. Have you been to that “factory”.?
No...Sadly. ::)
Slurp slurp...weeeeeeeee!
vB
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What a coincidence, I'm enjoying a wee Glenmorangie at this very moment too!
Slainte
S
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What a coincidence, I'm enjoying a wee Glenmorangie at this very moment too!
Slainte
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Slàinte Mhaith ;)
vB
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Nice pic BvB.. in 1:1 scale too. Have you been to that “factory”.?
No...Sadly. ::)
Slurp slurp...weeeeeeeee!
vB
Get thi’sen up to Scotland and keep on up the A9 until you get to Tain.
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This is indeed great news - a big doff of the hat to Dave W for working with Roden and helping the forum to influence a major manufacturer. Roden have listened. Well done Dave :)
Now that we have the likely arrival of something new in the near future, we need to 'put our money where our mouths are", so to speak, and buy up. Even though I am not really a 1/32 guy, i'll likely still pick up a couple of any new kits, even if only to encourage the production of kits in any scale. I hope that one day some of the smaller scales will get some love, but any release is a good release for our little corner of the hobby.
Cheers,
BC
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It is indeed a great time for the WW.I Aircraft Model crowd, Happy Days indeed! This little elixir was purchased 6 years ago along with six of it's "brothers" when the vintage was last available in Canada; I have a hard time trying to ensure I don't run out while still having the occasional "wee dram" and ensuring it's all gone when the lights go out!! ::) I'll have one in celebration tonight!
(https://i.imgur.com/HnSctKb.jpg)
Note: modified with extra images removed for brevity's sake!
Cheers,
Lance
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Hey Lance, seeing double is OK but when you start to see triple it's time to ease back a little, mate. :)
S
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Hey Lance, seeing double is OK but when you start to see triple it's time to ease back a little, mate. :)
S
Thats what you get when you drink and post... ;D ;D ;D
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Not sure what happened there but it's a good thing I posted BEFORE I had that dram or there could have been even more then a "triple take"! ??? ::)
Cheers,
Lance
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This is great news indeed! :) I've built more than a few of the (older) Roden 1/72 kits, and look forward to a (of the!) 1/32 release(es!!).
Even if the Avro does not do much for me I'll still get one.
Let's hope they know the Mémorial Flight has a SPAD XIII and 1,5 Strutter :)
I hope they would include decals for these. There were a few Strutters interned in the Netherlands as well.
Jeroen
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These are most welcome news! Thank you Roden. I have already built the 1/48 strutter, and that was an enjoyable buillt.
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Wow, Wow and Wow! I will definitely be getting all three, multiple boxings, if the bank manager and Lady V relax their gaze on me for one minute... This is the best news since Covid started! We are indeed in the Golden Age of modelling! Thank You to the good folk at Roden! (To think we had a part in this is really flattering...) I cannot toast this in a good Scotch, we are not allowed to buy, transport, drink or consume alcohol in any form in South Africa, (ciggies too) the only country in the world to do this... but I have a bottle of bootleg really old grape juice, Sauvignon Blanc I think, (Thank Heavens I still have friends) and I will join you all in a toast to Roden! In the background of the photo there is a Roden 1/32 Nieuport 24, and in the background of the box art are two One-and-a-half Strutters! Remember when we played this game with a certain other defunct company??? Just coincidence I think, but we will take it as a good omen for the future...
(https://iili.io/dYMyPa.jpg)
Regards to All!
Marc
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Fantastic news - thanks Mr. Wilson!!! I’ll be in for all three, perhaps multiples even. Good times....
Jimbo
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Just a note to RODENS president VLADIMIR CHUMAK I have counted the number of requests for a 1/32 Hanriot HD.1 there are 28 it is small plane and it on my list I will buy a lot of them
if you make it in 1/32 scale
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Just a note to RODENS president VLADIMIR CHUMAK I have counted the number of requests for a 1/32 Hanriot HD.1 there are 28 it is small plane and it on my list I will buy a lot of them
if you make it in 1/32 scale
I would buy a few Hanriots, as well as the first three new kits announced by Roden. What great choices! Thank you!
Best regards,
Bob
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I think it would be fair to say Roden are being cautious in their return to new WW1 kit production but they are very conscious of our most wanted poll - we sent the detailed results to them and they have been closely watching the Forum posts too I believe.
Our enthusiasm has been a major motivator to encourage Roden to return and if the initial new releases are successful I am sure the other front runners on our poll will eventually appear. The mystery kit in development at Wingnuts, whose engine was posted as a teaser, was in fact a Hanriot. Roden and Copper State are now aware of this.
In response to Frank's post earlier, there is no formal Roden announcement on their website or Facebook page- the Forum post is the announcement.
My sincere thanks to everyone on the Forum who took part in the poll and has posted encouragement to Roden on this board.
As yet Roden have made no decisions on which kits will appear first but the Avro and Sopwith are definites and the Spad XIII appears to have nudged its way into the front runners too thanks to our poll. Final release sequencing will be decided during the design process.
I understand Roden will continue to keep its full catalogue of WW1 kits in production, something which deserves further support .
Whether Roden resumes production of new WW1 kits in 1/48 and 1/72 scale is a decision I suspect will be part based on market support for the new 1/32 kits.
Personally I think a 1/32 scale Avro 504K is a genius decision. It had so many uses, bomber, trainer, night fighter and huge postwar service ( including my personal interest with the New Zealand Permanent Air Force). Multi boxings galore!
Wingnuts re-defined the landscape of large scale WW1 modelling, but Roden led the way for them and thankfully is still with us and planning new kits to keep us all happily building for years to come.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Fantastic news! While the Avro doesn't really toot my whistle I'll buy one to show my support to Roden. The Sopwith Strutter and the SPAD will definitely get my money. If/when they do a Hanriot I will buy several of those also. So many cool markings!!
Mike
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The mystery kit in development at Wingnuts ... was in fact a Hanriot. Roden and Copper State are now aware of this.
So what is/are the implications here? That: there are WNW molds out there; that WNW interest/intentions indicate there's a market for the Hanriot; that Roden and Cooper State develop the kit; that Cooper State jump in since Roden evidently has a full plate of intentions already; ???.
Gene K
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Hi Gene
In reference to your post re the Hanriot I don't think there are any particular implications to take from the fact Wingnuts had one in development. I'm not aware of any tooling for a Hanriot but it was on their design list, as were many other projects that never eventuated.
So I'm not aware of any WNW Hanriot moulds in existence but yes, the fact it was on their 'to do' list ( and was high on our wants poll) shows there is a demand for this kit.
Roden and Copper State are both now aware of these facts but to get in before there's any speculation it does not signal any joint venture, nor does it signal the two companies doing parallel projects with the same kit ( as WnW and Copper State did with the Hansa Brandenburg D.1). The Wingnuts kit was abandoned and CSM has stated it is planning to use sales of its armoured car range to fund the development costs of the Hansa Brandenburg kit - so if you want that kit, buy CSM's Nieuports too!
It's unlikely that Copper State will "jump in" with a Hanriot, as CSM is well advanced with another new 1/32 scale WW1 aircraft release whose identity has not yet been revealed. Also they have more 1/32 Nieuports in line so their slate is pretty full too.
It's likely we will get a 1/32 Hanriot, it's just a question of time and customer support for those manufacturers that are still producing kits for us. The fanatical buying up of Wingnut kits around the world does not put a cent in the pockets of Roden or CSM or others like Special Hobby whose WW1 line is unfairly overlooked.
There's still a vibrant future for our hobby!
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Thanks Dave ( Note I was replying to previous posts when the last reply came. Left here with slight modification)
Interesting to hear the Hanriot was WNW’s next kit!
I thought they would eventually get round to non Anglo- German subjects.
Why did they close. No!!!!
Anyway moving on. Fantastic news from Roden. Well done all.
Echoing member above, I will buy 1/2 dozen of these new kits and as many as the Bank and ‘Er indoors allows.
The Avros and Be are down the list for me but will get at least 1 because of their significance.
CSM were bringing out a Hansa-B so maybe we’ll see some other Austrian subjects in the future from one manu or another to dogfight the Hanriots and SPADs (Like Albatros 111s and Phoenix’s)
I’m still hoping for some single engine flying boats but happy with this news.
May WNW’s legacy leave a gap to be filled by our friends from East Europe, as well as their cracking kits.
Dc
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Very exciting news, we may even see a 1/32 BE2c and Bristol Scout. I so hope they will be releasing engines as separate kits too. Their Wolseley Viper is excellent.
Richie
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Hi Gene
It's unlikely that Copper State will "jump in" with a Hanriot, as CSM is well advanced with another new 1/32 scale WW1 aircraft release whose identity has not yet been revealed. Also they have more 1/32 Nieuports in line so their slate is pretty full too.
It's likely we will get a 1/32 Hanriot, it's just a question of time and customer support for those manufacturers that are still producing kits for us. The fanatical buying up of Wingnut kits around the world does not put a cent in the pockets of Roden or CSM or others like Special Hobby whose WW1 line is unfairly overlooked.
There's still a vibrant future for our hobby!
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Well said Dave and I intend to keep up with My policy of Not Purchasing WNW kits Just because they are gone. I have built and enjoyed 17 but now it is time to support the others Mentioned. Along those lines I may be listing My Last WNW stash kit for sale soon. ( At a reasonable price)
RAGIII
Very exciting news, we may even see a 1/32 BE2c and Bristol Scout. I so hope they will be releasing engines as separate kits too. Their Wolseley Viper is excellent.
Richie
You certainly have started the Gods of Modeling rolling by scratch building a Bristol Scout Richie ;D
RAGIII
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Haha, I'm only at the beginning Rick and struggling with it. Maybe I should start a BE2c scratch build too just in case the butterfly effect thing is for real. :)
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Practice makes perfect ;) And yes the butterfly effect is true ;D
Terri
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A new tool Spad XIII? Awesome news! Pardon me though, for holding on to my Hobbycraft kits until I see it...
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3 Cheers for Roden!
Thanks for this great news.
Ryan
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A new tool Spad XIII? Awesome news! Pardon me though, for holding on to my Hobbycraft kits until I see it...
Hear, hear. I hope that Roden ups their game some compared to where it was when they ceased doing WWI 1/32 aircraft models.
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A new tool Spad XIII? Awesome news! Pardon me though, for holding on to my Hobbycraft kits until I see it...
Hear, hear. I hope that Roden ups their game some compared to where it was when they ceased doing WWI 1/32 aircraft models.
Seconded.
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Hear, hear. I hope that Roden ups their game some compared to where it was when they ceased doing WWI 1/32 aircraft models.
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If they come out with 1/32nd scale kits like their 1/72 Bristol and Nieuport 27, I'll take 2 of each and every one that comes out. Tell me how to subscribe.
1/32nd scale wish list in no particular order:
Sopwith 1 1/2 strutter
Fokker D series, preferably the D.V
Pfalz DVII or DVIII
Nieuport 10 or 12
Spad XI or XVI
Voisin 3 (or any French pusher)
Caudron R
Morane-Saulner parasol (L? or P?)
Martinsyde F3/F4 Buzzard
and, all the floatplanes, not the flying boats, the floatplanes.
Stuart
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A new tool Spad XIII? Awesome news! Pardon me though, for holding on to my Hobbycraft kits until I see it...
Hear, hear. I hope that Roden ups their game some compared to where it was when they ceased doing WWI 1/32 aircraft models.
Yes, an improvement would/ will be great ! That being said having seen so Many Great Builds here on this Forum, Mikes recent SSW for example, I would be happy with only one improvement( Strut location openings and pegs on the struts). All of the rest is a piece of cake to fix and further improvements will be Icing! :o JMHO,
RAGIII
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Yes, an improvement would/ will be great ! That being said having seen so Many Great Builds here on this Forum, Mikes recent SSW for example, I would be happy with only one improvement( Strut location openings and pegs on the struts). All of the rest is a piece of cake to fix and further improvements will be Icing! :o JMHO,
RAGIII
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I agree. The struts and their weak connection points have been the biggest fault I find with Roden kits. The rest comes under the term 'modelling'. Improving the appearance of a kit is half the fun. But when the biggest battle is trying to get it to just hold together, the desirability of the model falls off significantly.
This is Roden's chance to step above the title of mediocre and advance into WNW's former position as the new gold standard. Let's
hope they take it. And then retool their older kits.
Gaz
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I am membership chair of the League of WWI Aviation Historians (We publish Over The Front). Can we be of help to Roden connecting them to drawings or other sources. We have several researchers who are 'SPAD to the Bone." We are all volunteer, so we would be able to help in that capacity.
Dave W. can you get this offer to Roden?
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Captain, Sir, you're great!
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I am membership chair of the League of WWI Aviation Historians (We publish Over The Front). Can we be of help to Roden connecting them to drawings or other sources. We have several researchers who are 'SPAD to the Bone." We are all volunteer, so we would be able to help in that capacity.
Dave W. can you get this offer to Roden?
LOL!
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I am membership chair of the League of WWI Aviation Historians (We publish Over The Front). Can we be of help to Roden connecting them to drawings or other sources. We have several researchers who are 'SPAD to the Bone." We are all volunteer, so we would be able to help in that capacity.
Dave W. can you get this offer to Roden?
LOL!
What is so funny?
Please share :)
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Yeah, I don't get the funny part of the posting :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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"SPAD to the Bone" is a little humorous, no?
Just watch video linked below but say SPAD instead of BAD
https://youtu.be/IyhJ69mD7xI
:)
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Focus on the bold words "SPAD to the Bone"--It's a play on words from the song title "Bad to the Bone" by George Thorogood and the Destroyers. Certainly worth a smile amongst WWI aviation enthusiasts and blues fans. ;D
Best regards,
Bob
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"I'm here to tell ya' honey, that I'm [Sp]ad to the bone"...
Guess not everyone has heard of George Thorogood and the Destroyers.
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Not meant as a critic, but it would have made more sense to the uninitiated if you'd not quoted the entire post, but only that little part :)
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‘Lost in Translation’
Actually I see the misunderstanding’s here now. ‘SPAD to the bone, Spa-spa-SPAD! SPAD to the bone.‘ I think we need a utube video of WW1 clips and the music over it. Cheezy, no?
Unless of course the original post meant something else...? ;D
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Not meant as a critic, but it would have made more sense to the uninitiated if you'd not quoted the entire post, but only that little part :)
The relevant part was underlined and highlighted. Sorry. can't make it much clearer.
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I was blind, but now I can see!
Thanks :D
Bob
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George who?
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George who?
no, the Who is Pete, Roger, John and Keith.
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"I'm here to tell ya' honey, that I'm [Sp]ad to the bone"...
Guess not everyone has heard of George Thorogood and the Destroyers.
!LOL!! Eric, Thanks for that. That was funny. I got it right away. And, here is a 'wrap around' for ya:
...every body's funny, now you funny too... =)) !LOL!!
I crack myself up =))
Paul
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Good humor:
On a more serious note. As long as Roden is making the Sopwith Triplane, now with WNW out of the picture save through aftermarket and on line auctions, it might behoove Rowan at Pheon in concert with Brian Fawcett to start production on their resin fuselages specifically made for the Roden Kit. I don't recall posting photo's of my completed Roden Sopwith Triplane with the Brian Fawcett Fuselage and Pheon Decals. It builds into a nice model as evidenced by the images below.
First image is the undersides showing the shading to highlight the ribbing and add depth to the "Fabric".
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05477.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05477.jpg.html)
In the images below, you can see the difference in length of the Roden Fuselage compared with the Brian Fawcett Resin Fuselage.
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC02631.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC02631.jpg.html)
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC02630.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC02630.jpg.html)
In the image below you can see the sub assemblies are ready to be buttoned up
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC03467.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC03467.jpg.html)
The finished model using the Pheon Decals for the Sopwith Triplane, I chose the "Maud" scheme as I saw Bud Pearson's build and thought it was neat.
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05481.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05481.jpg.html)
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05480.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05480.jpg.html)
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05478.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05478.jpg.html)
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC03511.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC03511.jpg.html)
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05479.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05479.jpg.html)
The decals offered by Pheon at that time:
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC03445.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC03445.jpg.html)
And fun factor of this model was definitely pegged to the right of zero.
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/ampz%20meter.gif) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/ampz%20meter.gif.html)
So, if Rowan or Brian are watching this site and seeing this post, it would be neat if you could start making the fuselage again. As it sits, the kit builds into a nice model of the Sopwith Tripe.
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Great suggestion Mark!
Best,
Bob
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Nice suggestion. Wow that tripe really looks neat. Daz
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I sent Rowan an email too with that idea. We'll see. Thanks for looking and the kind comments.
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That's good news. I'd like to see a really well done 1/32nd SPAD XIII kit on par with their 1/32nd SPAD VII.
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Nice suggestion. Wow that tripe really looks neat. Daz
Thanks for that and it's a Roden Kit.
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Good humor:
On a more serious note. As long as Roden is making the Sopwith Triplane, now with WNW out of the picture save through aftermarket and on line auctions, it might behoove Rowan at Pheon in concert with Brian Fawcett to start production on their resin fuselages specifically made for the Roden Kit. I don't recall posting photo's of my completed Roden Sopwith Triplane with the Brian Fawcett Fuselage and Pheon Decals. It builds into a nice model as evidenced by the images below.
First image is the undersides showing the shading to highlight the ribbing and add depth to the "Fabric".
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05477.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05477.jpg.html)
In the images below, you can see the difference in length of the Roden Fuselage compared with the Brian Fawcett Resin Fuselage.
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC02631.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC02631.jpg.html)
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC02630.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC02630.jpg.html)
In the image below you can see the sub assemblies are ready to be buttoned up
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC03467.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC03467.jpg.html)
The finished model using the Pheon Decals for the Sopwith Triplane, I chose the "Maud" scheme as I saw Bud Pearson's build and thought it was neat.
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05481.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05481.jpg.html)
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05480.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05480.jpg.html)
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05478.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05478.jpg.html)
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC03511.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC03511.jpg.html)
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05479.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC05479.jpg.html)
The decals offered by Pheon at that time:
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC03445.jpg) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/DSC03445.jpg.html)
And fun factor of this model was definitely pegged to the right of zero.
(https://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/ptbarnum101/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/ampz%20meter.gif) (https://s942.photobucket.com/user/ptbarnum101/media/Sopwith/Sopwith_Triplane/ampz%20meter.gif.html)
So, if Rowan or Brian are watching this site and seeing this post, it would be neat if you could start making the fuselage again. As it sits, the kit builds into a nice model of the Sopwith Tripe.
That's really sharp work. I've always liked the Sopwith tri-plane over the Fokker.
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http://www.fawcettmodelsandpatterns.co.uk/1-32-scale-resin-detail-correction-parts
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Wow, thanks for the link! I didn't know he was still doing those. I just ordered one for another Sopwith Tripe. Builds into a neat model. Hopefully this will generate some interest in that kit.
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Yes, I went for one as well.
I want to build another tripe, but I would rather not pay the £150+ for the wnw kit off eBay
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Yes, I went for one as well.
I want to build another tripe, but I would rather not pay the £150+ for the wnw kit off eBay
Especially not IF the Collishaw Tripe pops up somewhere in a store for RRP - although blink and you’ll miss it
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Truly awesome Tripe, Mark!
Love it!
vB ;)
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Truly awesome Tripe, Mark!
Love it!
vB ;)
Thanks Bob for scoping it out and your kind comments, duly appreciated.
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Yes, I went for one as well.
I want to build another tripe, but I would rather not pay the £150+ for the wnw kit off eBay
Good on ya for that. It's a bit of work but worth the effort and the kits are readily available.
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At the risk of going off-topic, I've had this thread on how to fix the fuselage yourself bookmarked for a while while looking out for a Sopwith Triplane:
https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235001045-132-sopwith-triplane-with-corrections/
Until my wife surprised me with the WNW Collishaw triplane last year...
Jeroen
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Brian doesn’t hang around, my parcel arrived today. I have to say I was slightly nervous about the order as his site hadn’t been updated for several years.
Kit is on order, wicker seat, seatbelts and masks to follow and we’re good to go.
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I am sorry I missed the poll, otherwise I would have thrown in the 1/32 Handley Page O/100 and O/400 that Wingnut Wings were planning to release.
Willem
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Concerning the 1 1/2 Strutter: As I wrote sometime ago, I suggest decals for „Ariel“, the plane in which Capt. Beauchamp did two absolutely stunning bomb raids in 1916! One on Essen and the other one on Munich!
Here's a link (scroll well down): http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escadrille/escadrille023_2.htm
For those who don't read french the photos should do.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ron_eisele/status/1032634209381376000/photo/1
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I really want Roden to succeed in their endeavor to go back into WWI kits. I sure do hope that the old connection issues related to wings and struts can be resolved along with the decal issues. This video review of their recent release of their Stearman PT-17 does cause me some concern regarding the issues with strut connection points and strut length issues. The Continental engine is lacking in cooling gill detail. On a positive note, I do like the rib tape detail, which was not a very prominent feature in the past.
https://youtu.be/-euIbPztsGU
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I really want Roden to succeed in their endeavor to go back into WWI kits. I sure do hope that the old connection issues related to wings and struts can be resolved along with the decal issues. This video review of their recent release of their Stearman PT-17 does cause me some concern regarding the issues with strut connection points and strut length issues. The Continental engine is lacking in cooling gill detail. On a positive note, I do like the rib tape detail, which was not a very prominent feature in the past.
https://youtu.be/-euIbPztsGU
I really don't have a major concern regarding decals. Yes it would be great if they are better but Aftermarket and Painting can do wonders as replacements. The strut attachments and locations are another story. This is the one place I feel it is Imperative for Roden to Improve. JMHO,
RAGIII
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Yes attachment points and strut accuracy are important
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Yep, if they can get on top of that they would really be in business, now that we're used to WNW's standard.
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This video review of their recent release of their Stearman PT-17 does cause me some concern regarding the issues with strut connection points and strut length issues. The Continental engine is lacking in cooling gill detail. On a positive note, I do like the rib tape detail, which was not a very prominent feature in the past.
https://youtu.be/-euIbPztsGU
I have this kit in my stash and it is to land on my desk as soon as my current Fee project is completed. The rib detail is very fine, indeed. The interior is quite rich in details. The cylinders of Continental engine might have been better, indeed. Yet, the strut pins are more than acceptable. N struts have quite solid front pin which enters tightly the hole in the lower wing, the rear leg has just a hinge which enters the raised socket, but the front pin ensures the correct strut alignment with side-sway. The top wing holes are larger in diameter than the top pons but it allows for some flexibility when the upper wing will be mounted. All the pins are quite long. Surely not the WNW but very very solid looking, much progress in this aspect from Roden. The decals do not seem to be top quality, I see the spurious white rim around the navy blue circles, due to poor register, but I will replace them with custom printed ones as I want to build my model in a somewhat unusual livery (no, not a Polish one, we did not have Stearmans).
All in all a very promising kit and I am truly looking forward to start the build.
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^^ PrzemoL what about the length of the "N" cabane struts? In the video, about 8 minutes in the reviewer clearly demonstrates that either the "N" struts are too short or the outer struts are too long.
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I have just watched the video. Imho the problem is with too large dihedral of the lower wing, this is probably where some care must be taken and a jig based on good scale drawings will be handy. But I will know it for sure only during assembly.
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Take my like Mr. Roden! :)
Maybe you can put some "out of border" versions in your products. ;)
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Some Polish markings would be nice. Is your avatar/flag from the 3rd Polish Carpathian regiment? My dad was a Captain in it!
Cheers.
Andrew
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"...Some Polish markings would be nice. Is your avatar/flag from the 3rd Polish Carpathian regiment? My dad was a Captain in it!
Cheers.
Andrew..."
My grandfather fought in Tobruk Siege.
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Do we know how the SPAD XIII sales are going - I'm developing a passing interest in AVRO 504s
(https://fullfatthings-keyaero.b-cdn.net/sites/keyaero/files/imported/2019-07-27/img_59-1_0.jpg)
Richard
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Don’t know how many have been out for sale yet…
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So far all I have seen for SPAD sales are E Bay dealers, mostly in the Ukraine. Prices vary from @ $45.00 US to $63.00 US plus reasonable shipping.
RAGIII