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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Mike Norris on July 29, 2020, 09:11:15 PM
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Hi all,
I'm waiting for the propeller to arrive to complete my Siemens-Schuckert D.III model.
Therefore I'm making a start on the 1:32nd scale resin model of the Ansaldo 'Baby' by 'Lukgraph'.
I'll be modelling the first 'Baby' built (Ser No: So 5005) by the SA Aeronautica Gio Ansaldo of Turin.
This aircraft was fitted with a Le Rhöne 9J rotary engine (120hp) with a circular engine cowl.
I've made a start on the 3D printed engine, which I must say is the best finish I've seen thus far from a model company.
The surface shows very little, if any, of the layer striations seen on some 3D printed model parts.
Cutting the parts from their support trees is a bit tricky and because the material is quite hard, removing the tree stubs on such small parts is difficult.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/pageheader.jpg)
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Hi all,
The 3D printed Le Rhone 9J engine is complete.
Painted with 'Alclad' Steel lacquer and weathered using by sponging 'Tamiya' Weathering Master Burnt Blue, Gunmetal and Silver.
Complete engine washed with 'AK Interactive' Kerosene, thinned with White Spirit.
Spark plug leads twisted from 0.125 mm diameter copper wire.
The supplied 0.3 mm rod is solid steel and when cut, leaves a burr on the end which is difficult to remove.
Therefore I used Nickel-Silver tube instead.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/engdone1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/engdone2.jpg)
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Excellent Start Mike. The engine looks Terrific. You certainlly don't waste any time 8)
RAGIII
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Hi all,
I've been sorting out certain anomalies with the primary parts of the model.
The details will be covered in the PDF build log, but as a heads up:
The resin locating pegs for the fuselage halves cause the assembly to be misaligned, as do those to locate the wings to the fuselage and upper wing centre section.
These pegs were removed and replaced with 0.8 mm diameter brass rod, which with the kit original steel pins provide a better joint and alignment.
Even so I found that with the wing leading edges aligned, the trailing edges were not. It seems the wing chords are slightly less than their mating faces.
Therefore some sanding of the trailing edges of the upper wing centre section and lower wing roots was required to align correctly to the wing sections.
Resin surface irregularities, such as blow holes, chips, edge delaminations and joint seams, needed to be either filled and/or sanded.
The two fuselage halves have pre-moulded external linen stitching, which is not very realistic. Also the stitching at the sides of the cockpit was not present on the aircraft.
In addition, the removable rear fuselage was attached to the forward fuselage at a joint to the rear of the cockpit.
This joint has been moulded on the fuselage halves as a thick ridge, but in reality did not look like this (see the following photograph).
The joint at the fuselage sides was covered with a strip.
These details were scraped and sanded away, in preparation for being replaced with photo-etch (‘Eduard’ WW1 Stitching (EDP32228).
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fusjoin.jpg)
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It sounds like a lot of correction work is/was required. It seems to be a kit for a Master like yourself :-)
RAGIII
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Piece of cake in your talent hands Mike . Awesome work on the engine .
Terri
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Hi all,
We'll see how it goes, but it shows how a bit of research can throw up details otherwise missed,
Mike
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Hi all,
The pilot operated the ailerons on the wings by turning the pilot’s wheel on the control column.
The typical aileron control from a pilot’s wheel was effected by cables.
The control column would be fitted with two cable pulleys, one from the wheel and located on the top of the control column and a second pulley located at the bottom of the control column.
The aileron control cable run was routed around the top pulley then down to the bottom pulley, where the cable run was crossed.
From the bottom pulley the cables were routed out of the cockpit and through the lower wings to their respective ailerons.
Unfortunately these pulleys are not supplied in the model kit, so had to be made.
Each pulley is a 2.5 mm diameter disc, cut from 0.5 mm thick plastic card, and sandwiched between two 3.5 mm diameter discs.
These represent the basic 'grooved' pulleys, around which the aileron control cable run will be routed,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/cockpit5.jpg)
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Your usual outstanding attention to detail Mike!
RAGIII
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Very nice!! I have the Norwegian version so I imagine your comments would be applicable to that one as well
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Hi all,
The fuselage halves had two pre-moulded resin location pegs only and when the fuselage halves were located together, the pegs did not align correctly.
Also, as noted by 'PrzemoL' during his build of the Sopwith 'Baby, once the cockpit if fitted and the fuselage closed up, the fuselage seam will be seen from inside the cockpit.
Therefore I decided to sand away the resin location pegs and drill three 0.9 mm holes into one fuselage half, then fitted 0.8 mm brass location rods.
To align the rest of the fuselage halves I added short strips of 0.8 mm thick plastic card to the fuselage half, in positions that would not interfere with the cockpit fit.
Finally to hide the fuselage seam and to add to fuselage halves alignment, I cut and profiled a single piece of 0.8 mm thick plastic card, which was secured to the cockpit floor area of the fuselage half.
The result is a much better alignment of the fuselage halves wih the seam below the cockpit hidden,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus2.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus3.jpg)
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Getting 3 sets of pins and holes to line up so perfectly blows my mind. Are the holes a little larger in diameter than the pins? I would have thrown up my hands and simply done without the locators. Amazing precision Mike.
sp
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Looking terrific as always. Nice work on the false floor and those locating pins.
RAGIII
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Getting 3 sets of pins and holes to line up so perfectly blows my mind. Are the holes a little larger in diameter than the pins? I would have thrown up my hands and simply done without the locators. Amazing precision Mike.
sp
Yes the holes are 0.9 mm diameter and the rods 0.8 mm diameter.
This allows for slight misalignment. If alignment is too far out, I'll open up the hole by steps of 0.1 mm until it aligns.
Either that or elongate the hole one way or the other to get alignment,
Mike
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Great subject and bright start, will follow with interest.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Thanks for the low down on the pins and holes Mike. My own, far greater, lack of precision doesn't chafe so badly now :-)
sp
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Hi all,
Just a small update.
The instrument panel is complete.
Oil paint for the wood effect and decals added (not in the kit) from my spares.
The five selector levers were made from 0.4 mm Nickel-Silver tube, flattened then bent to 90 degrees.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/cockpit7.jpg)
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Nice detail work on the panel Mike :)
Terri
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Excellent Panel Detail Mike! I Love the bezels. The switches are fantastic and look the part. Were the bezels included or are they aftermarket?
RAGIII
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Hi Rich,
The instrument panel in the kit is a one piece photo-etch, which has the bezels embossed on it.
I primed then applied 'DecoArt' crafters acrylic paint (Burnt Umber) to get the wood effect.
Once dry I gently scraped the bezels with a curved scalpel blade to remove the paint and expose the bezels.
Much easier than trying to attach separate bezels from the likes of 'Airscale' etc,
I did the same fore the switch surrounds etc.
Mike
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Hi Rich,
The instrument panel in the kit is a one piece photo-etch, which has the bezels embossed on it.
I primed then applied 'DecoArt' crafters acrylic paint (Burnt Umber) to get the wood effect.
Once dry I gently scraped the bezels with a curved scalpel blade to remove the paint and expose the bezels.
Much easier than trying to attach separate bezels from the likes of 'Airscale' etc,
I did the same fore the switch surrounds etc.
Mike
The panel looks fantatsic!! Would you please share how you did the wood effect with the crafters paint?
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Thanks.
I don't use traditional oil paints, such as 'Windsor & Newton' or 'Abtielung 502', as many modellers do.
Instead I use an acrylic paints from 'DecoArt', which are water based acrylic paints that are semi-liquid and smooth.
Basically I prime the part and once dry, brush on the paint (Burnt Umber) and quickly brush away excess paint to leave the disired effect.
The paint, unlike traditional oil paints, does not need to be drained of linseed oil (it has none) and dries with 20 minutes.
It can also be sealed with any lacquer or acrylic coats.
The only down side is that as it dries quickly, you can't keep 'working' the painted surface as you can with traditional oil paints.
The up side is if you don't like the finish you can just wash it off as it's water based acrylic.
Any of my build logs on my site (link below) have a chapter on wood effects - click on the a model PDF icon to read or download the build log,
Mike
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How did I miss this start??? Great one, indeed.
Many of the points requiring corrections which you mentioned agree well with my observations. However, I found one more, vital one, which you might have not noticed. When checking the geometry of the wing cellule vs the fuselage I found that the lower wing roots (being the parts of the fuselage halves) required moving back by at least 2mm - I have realized it only when the wings were assembled, so I cut the complete wing panels and moved them back. You may wish to check it beforehand :-)
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Thank you for sharing. I'll have to try the technique.
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How did I miss this start??? Great one, indeed.
Many of the points requiring corrections which you mentioned agree well with my observations. However, I found one more, vital one, which you might have not noticed. When checking the geometry of the wing cellule vs the fuselage I found that the lower wing roots (being the parts of the fuselage halves) required moving back by at least 2mm - I have realized it only when the wings were assembled, so I cut the complete wing panels and moved them back. You may wish to check it beforehand :-)
Hi PrzemoL,
Yes I have your great build of the Sopwith version tagged for any common information.
I saw you input about moving the wings rearwards by 2 mm.
I assumed it was due to misalignment issues but didn't know why.
I checked wing and strut alignment and it looked OK
The forward fuselage of the Sopwith 'Baby' is slightly different to the Ansaldo 'Baby.
The leading edge of the lower wings on the Ansaldo model are more or less central to the fuselage access panel.
On the Sopwith, the leading edge seems further rearwards (the access panel position is different as well).
The two illustrations are about the same scale and you can see the difference.
Ansaldo 'Baby'
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/ansaldo.jpg)
Sopwith 'Baby'
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/sopwith.jpg)
I haven't seen the Sopwith model but my Ansaldo seems to fit with the illustration.
What information did you have that required your Sopwith wings to be moved rearwards,
Mike
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Hi Mike!
Outstanding work "as usual" until now. Engine and instruments panel are delightful.
So I will continue to follow your W.I.P.!
I'm always happy when someone choose to build italian subjects.
I want to point out something strange: in photo that you posted with "4" and roundel it really seems that roundel have red outer ring ("4" is red too?) instead of green and this is really strange for italian produced planes. Not a vital thing for your building, but I love to note these anomalies.
Great work!
Roberto
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Hi Roberto,
That photograph and another are of a 'Baby' thought to be operating at Orbetello flying school.
It has the engine cowl of a Sopwith 'Baby' rather than the type fitted by Ansaldo.
It's difficult, as you know, to be exact as to the actual colours when looking at WW1 monochrome pictures.
I think, given it has the Sopwith engine cowl, this particular aircraft could be a visiting RNAS Sopwith 'Baby'.
That would explain the roundels colours you referred to, which would be blue, white, red,
Mike
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How did I miss this start??? Great one, indeed.
Many of the points requiring corrections which you mentioned agree well with my observations. However, I found one more, vital one, which you might have not noticed. When checking the geometry of the wing cellule vs the fuselage I found that the lower wing roots (being the parts of the fuselage halves) required moving back by at least 2mm - I have realized it only when the wings were assembled, so I cut the complete wing panels and moved them back. You may wish to check it beforehand :-)
Hi PrzemoL,
Yes I have your great build of the Sopwith version tagged for any common information.
I saw you input about moving the wings rearwards by 2 mm.
I assumed it was due to misalignment issues but didn't know why.
I checked wing and strut alignment and it looked OK
The forward fuselage of the Sopwith 'Baby' is slightly different to the Ansaldo 'Baby.
The leading edge of the lower wings on the Ansaldo model are more or less central to the fuselage access panel.
On the Sopwith, the leading edge seems further rearwards (the access panel position is different as well).
The two illustrations are about the same scale and you can see the difference.
Ansaldo 'Baby'
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/ansaldo.jpg)
Sopwith 'Baby'
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/sopwith.jpg)
I haven't seen the Sopwith model but my Ansaldo seems to fit with the illustration.
What information did you have that required your Sopwith wings to be moved rearwards,
Mike
Thank you Mike for this clarification. Now I suspect that Lukgraph made the same fuse with wing roots in both kits, while there should have been differences.
I used WD scale drawings.
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Hi Przemol,
Looking at your photographs the Sopwith is different to the Ansaldo fuselage.
However, it might be they set the position of the wing roots the same on both.
Luckily I chose the Ansaldo then ;).
I think you are like me - if you find something that needs to be changed, you won't rest until you know it's as good as it can be >:(
It a curse sometimes isn't it ::),
Mike
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Hi Przemol,
Looking at your photographs the Sopwith is different to the Ansaldo fuselage.
I think you are like me - if you find something that needs to be changed, you won't rest until you know it's as good as it can be >:(
It a curse sometimes isn't it ::),
Mike
That might be true but you flatter me too much. Surely your level of error tolerance is much lower than mine. It is what I admire most in your modeling!
Not a curse at all imho.😉
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Hi all,
The inside of each fuselage half has been painted and side frame outlines added with oil paint.
The frame cross bracing is 0.08 mm diameter mono-filament with 0.4 mm Nickel-Silver tube and 'GasPatch' 1:48th scale resin turnbuckles.
The bracing still needs painting of the tubes and turnbuckles,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/frameshade2.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/cockpit8.jpg)
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Wood work and bracing wires are looking great Mike!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
Just a small update.
The instrument panel is complete.
Oil paint for the wood effect and decals added (not in the kit) from my spares.
The five selector levers were made from 0.4 mm Nickel-Silver tube, flattened then bent to 90 degrees.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/cockpit7.jpg)
Nice job on the IP. The switches are a nice touch. The wood finish looks realistic and overall quite clean. Outstanding modeling!
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Hi all,
The basic cockpit assembly is ready to be fitted into the fuselage.
Control wires are 0.08 mm diameter mono-filament, cross bracing 0.12 mm diameter mono-filament.
Turnbuckles are the 1:48th scale resin versions from 'GasPatch'.
All tube work is either 0.4 mm or 0.5 mm diameter Nickel-Silver tube.
Seat belts were replaced with spare Sopwith F.1 Camel kit from 'Wingnut Wings'.
Fuel tank pipe and throttle control rod are 0.4 mm tube.
Aileron control line pulleys scratched from cut plastic card discs, with spacer discs to allow the control line to be able to wrap around them.
Seat cushion made from 'Milliput',
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/cockpit19.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/cockpit20.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/cockpit21.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/cockpit22.jpg)
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Outstanding Interior as always Mike!
RAGIII
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Nnnnnice!
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Wow, Mike! This interior is truly a work of art!
Cheers,
Bud
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Just catching up Mike,
I love the brass bezels on the IP. Great idea.
The cockpit looks like you could climb right in and start her up!
Guy
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Very nice, crisp and clean build here, Mike. The IP and wrapping on the wheel really set it off!
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Hi all,
The cockpit assembly is now enclosed within the fuselage.
The fuselage seam joint and the various surfaces blemishes were first filled, then sanded before being primed.
This showed slight surface anomalies which were re-sanded and re-primed until the surface was smooth.
The right side of the fuselage had pre-moulded linen stitching, which I felt was overdone and unrealistic.
So it was all removed, including stitching further forward, which didn't exist on the actual aircraft.
The stitching was replaced by photo-etch from the ‘Eduard’ WW1 Stitching (EDP32228) set.
Also a joint line was added around the fuselage to the rear of the cockpit decking, to represent where the rear fuselage could be detached.
The rear fuselage was secured to the forward fuselage by turnbuckle type fasteners, which will be added later in the build.
A white primer was applied as this is required prior to applying the 'Aviattic' Clear linen CDL effect decals,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus7.jpg)
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Looking great. As usual you are making fast progress on your build. I like the PE stitching.
RAGIII
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Hi Mike!
Fantastic job on cockpit!
Roberto
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Hi all,
Just a few updates for the fuselage as they're not covered in the kit:
Filler cap (oil tank?) and access panel hinge to the top of the front decking.
Filler cap is 0.2 mm plastic cards discs with a 0.3 mm diameter tube.
Both fuselage/wing roots have photo-etch flying wire attachment points added from the ‘PART’ 1/48th scale WWI Aircraft Control Horns (S48-087).
Creases added to the corners of the linen stitched panel, using ‘AV’ Masilla Plastica (401) putty,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus8.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus9.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus10.jpg)
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I did not know that Eduard had a stitching set. My heart be still.
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Hard to find now.
Only one left in stock.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009YKCOK6/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Mike
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Looking terrific Mike! The stitching PE does look nice!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
Just a quick update on the fuselage progress.
The metal is 'Alclad' black base with Duraluminium top coat.
Wood panels are 'Tamiya' XF57 base with 'DecoArt' acylic Burnt Umber for wood effect.
Fuselage pre-shaded with 'Tamiya' Smoke X19 with XF55 used to highlight formers.
Top coated with XF 78 for CDL base colour.
The pre-shading and formers are faint but should show up more once the decals and sealing coat are applied.
I still have to gloss coat and apply 'Aviattic' Clear Linen effect decals and seal the wood effect.
Then weather it before starting on the rest of the model,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus18.jpg)
Post script:
I've gloss coated and applied a test decal of the 'Aviattic' canvass/linen effect (ATT32236).
This decal has no colour tint, just the canvass/linen weave.
The colour required shows through from the base coat.
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/decal1.jpg)
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I do like the subtle shading and the cowling and metal areas look fantastic.
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The Canvass/linen effect decals have been applied after cutting out the necessary paper templates.
Kit Italian Roundels and Serial number also applied.
Engine and engine cowl fitted.
Next is to weather and seal, then create the various rigging points,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus19.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus20.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus21.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus22.jpg)
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Just getting caught up on you build Mike , wonderful work on the fuselage so far . The linen decals really add to the over all effect .
Terri
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Hi all,
Weathering applied using a combination of:
'Flory Models' Dark Dirt clay wash.
'AK Interactive’ Engine Oil (AK 2019).
‘502 Abteilung’ Smoke (ABT005) oil paint.
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus24.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fus25.jpg)
Now to create the four turnbuckle type locking devices that join the rear fuselage to the front fuselage, just behind the cockpit rear decking panel.
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fusjoint3.jpg)
Mike
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This is truly stunning work Mike. The canvass transfers and metallic finish on the cowling take this model, already at a very high level of quality, to one even higher.
Stephen.
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Hard to find now.
Only one left in stock.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009YKCOK6/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Mike
I found a couple of sets on eBay. I cannot wait until they arrive! Thanks
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I really like the fuselage affect using the clear Aviattic decals.
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Hi all,
I've represented the four locking turnbuckles at the fuselage joint, using 'GasPatch' 1:48th scale resin 'Anchor Points',
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/fusTBs.jpg)
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The Markings and Linen effect look outstanding! Lovely work as always!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
I'm working on preparing the wings for the linen decals etc.
This is the upper wing (top surface).
First primed white then masked for the wing ribs and front and rear spars.
Airbrushed with 'Tamiya' Smoke (X19).
Then the outer five wing rib areas airbrushed to represent the Italian red and green under wing colours 'ghosting' through.
Finally airbrushed with 'Tamiya' XF78 and XF57 to give the base colour for the linen effect decals.
I lightly polished across the wing to smooth the surface and to highlight the wing ribs.
Next is to gloss coat the surface then cut and apply the linen effect decals and roundels before a touch of weathering is applied,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/preshade7.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/preshade8.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/preshade9.jpg)
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Mike, a true work of art!
nothing less
ciao
edo
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Hi all,
Upper wing top surface finished off.
Gloss coated then 'Aviattic' linen effect decals applied, using paper templates to create the shapes.
'Flory Models' Dark Dirt and Grime clay washes applied.
Smoke oil paint applied behind the location holes for the lifting points and aileron control wire guides.
Roundel wing ribs slightly polished to highlight them,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/wing1.jpg)
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Spectacular results! But then, I am not surprised at all.
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Looks real. Outstanding modeling there.
Best regards,
Bob
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I really like the wings!! WOW!!!
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Spectacular results! But then, I am not surprised at all.
Agreed!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
Working on the undersides of the wings.
As the undersides would show the wing ribs ans spars as darker shadows, due to daylight from above the wings, the pre-shading is darker.
The wings were primed with white, as before and then pre-shading was airbrushed between masking for the spars and free hand for the wing ribs (thinned 'Tamiya' Flat Earth (XF52).
Then over sprayed lightly with thinned ‘Tamiya’ Wood Deck Tan (XF78) mixed with Buff (XF57) to 2:1 ration.
Outer right wing outer sections were airbrushed with ‘Tamiya’ Green (X5} mixed with approximately 15% of ‘Tamiya’ Grey Green (XF76).
The left wing outer sections 'Tamiya' Red (XF7).
Next is to gloss coat, apply the 'Aviattic' linen effect decals and weather,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/wing3.jpg)
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The wing colors look great. Finishing them off with the Aviattic Linen should just make them even better!
RAGIII
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Next is to gloss coat, apply the 'Aviattic' linen effect decals and weather ... .
Mike,
I appreciate so much how you share your techniques -- sure has "enlightened" me (and likely a lot of other folks!).
Thanks.
Gene
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Hi all,
While I'm waiting for decals I thought I'd work on the pilot.
As this model is a float plane I thought I'd use the ‘Kellerkind’ Gotha bomber pilot (54095), as he is inflating his life jacket.
Painted with 'AK Interactive' and 'Tamiya' acrylics.
Dirt weathering is thinned 'AK Interactive' Kerosene (AK3029).
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/figdone1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/figdone2.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/figdone3.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/figdone4.jpg)
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Nice looking pilot Mike!
RAGIII
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Good work on a fantastic idea for a figure! I should look into Kellerkind I believe.
/Fredrik
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Hi all,
As I'm still waiting for decals to arrive I've worked on the trestles and beaching trolley.
The side guard rails of the beaching trolley were broken, so I used tubing to repair and reinforce the rails,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/trolley2.jpg)
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Nicely done Mike! Your repair of the rails looks great!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
The main and tail floats had wood panels nailed to the internal structure.
Inside each float were canvass ’bulk heads to separate the float compartments.
Each of the three compartments in the main floats were accessed through a circular cover on the top surface of the floats.
At the front and rear edges of the main floats were reinforced with Spruce end caps.
Across each main float were recesses to locate the float cross beams and these recesses were covered with panels.
These details are not reproduced on the kit supplied floats.
The floats panel and nailing lines were created with a scriber and a 'Rosie the Riveter'.
Base coated with 'Tamiya Dark Yellow (XF60) then overcoated with 'DecoArt' Burnt Umber.
The edge beading was created by lightly sanding through the Burnt Umber to reveal the base colour.
Sealed with 'Alclad' Light Sheen (ALC311) mixed with 'Tamiya' Clear Yellow (X24).
Photo-etch access panels and strut plates black based then oversprayed woth 'Alclad' Steel.
Weathered using 'Flory Models' Dark Dirt wash then final seal with ALC311.
Mike.
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/floats4.jpg)
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Mike, the realism of your finishes on those floats is breathtaking. Thanks for your detailed description. Very well done! ;D
Best,
Bob
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Just beautiful! I like the repair in the post above. I suppose that the rails were even before and now they have the step created by the tube?! If that's the case then it shows that things sometimes gets better when done differently than the original. Beautiful wood work as well!
/Fredrik
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Mike, the realism of your finishes on those floats is breathtaking. Thanks for your detailed description. Very well done! ;D
Best,
Bob
I can't say it any better!
RAGIII
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Really brilliant work on all the components of your build, Mike!
Cheers,
Gary
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Hi all,
The linen effect decals I was waiting for arrived so I've now finished applying them to the fuselage, wings, tail plane and control surfaces.
The Ansaldo built 'Baby's' were primarily used for training and probably flown multiple times daily.
It's probable they were not kept as clean as maybe the operational aircraft were.
Therefore I've intentionally applied heavier weathering than I normally would,
Ansaldo built aircraft tended not to have the white vertical rudder stripe painted, but instead left it as clear doped linen.
Also, it was common for the upper surfaces of the lower wings to be doped with a drab olive colour, as the glare from a clear doped linen surface could affect the pilot's vision.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/weather1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/weather2.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/weather3.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/weather4.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/weather5.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/weather6.jpg)
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Hi all,
The lower wing, the wing ailerons, tail plane assembly and rudder fitted.
Now it's onto pre-rigging, the struts and then start assembly.
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/assembly1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/assembly2.jpg)
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Gorgeous realistic surfaces. Fantastic wood on the floats. A masterpiece closer and closer to be completed.
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Awesome Mike !
Terri
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Beautifully done Mike!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
I'm now working on the tail unit, starting with the rear float.
First is to pre-rig the eight bracing wires between the four support struts.
The mono-filament used is 0.08 mm diameter with 0.4 Nickel-Silver tube and 1:48th scale turnbuckles from 'GasPatch'.
Next step is to fit the float and struts then complete the rigging from the fuselage to the float,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging3.jpg)
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Mike, I am sure this looks beautiful, but for some reason I can no longer see any photos on this thread (all of them, including earlier ones that I viewed previously). Not sure why. I can see photos on other threads. Any ideas? I'd love to see your progress on this little gem.
Best,
Bob
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All of the components are beautifully finished, linen texture looks as real fabric.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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Buckles look excellent Mike!
RAGIII
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Mike, I am sure this looks beautiful, but for some reason I can no longer see any photos on this thread (all of them, including earlier ones that I viewed previously). Not sure why. I can see photos on other threads. Any ideas? I'd love to see your progress on this little gem.
Best,
Bob
Hi Bob,
This happened to someone on another forum - he lost my shots in my thread but only on his Android mobile.
His other devices were OK.
Have you tried on other device?
I'm at a loss as to why just my shots have stopped showing for you.
Can you see my shots in other builds - try this one:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11132.msg210572#msg210572
Mike
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Mike:
The photos show up on my iPhone, but not on my desktop computer. Weird, but at least I can see them, and they are indeed lovely! Very well done. ;D
BTW, I can no longer see the photos on your SSW thread either on my desktop computer, but I can still see photos on other threads. Oh well.
Best,
Bob
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Hi Bob,
It's strange that it' seems to be only my shots you can't see and not others on the forum?
It's a bit of a long shot but try clearing your internet cache (history).
It might be it's overloaded with cookies etc and is choking the images.
I know from experience that clearing the cache can stop various problems, such as older web page content showing instead of the current content,
Mike
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The photos show up on my iPhone, but not on my desktop computer.
I had a similar problem with photos that Bughunter hosted on Google Drive. It eventually cleared up ... after updates to Edge and Chrome, I believe. Firefox worked, however ... have you tried that?
Gene
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Thanks Gene.
Hi all,
The bracing for the tail float is now done, apart from painting the tubing.
I'm now working on the tail float rudder and aircraft rudder/brace bar (which is not included in the kit).
There are several problems with the tail float rudder, which required modification using micro-tube, drilling of location hole and reprofiling the rear face of the tail float.
Also the creation of the aircraft rudder/brace bar, which also required a hole drilling,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging5.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/floatrudder2.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rudderbracebar.jpg)
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The attention to detail really shows!
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Hi all,
The tail unit is complete now.
Rigging is 0.08 mm mono-filament for the control lines and float bracing wires - Fin bracing is 0.12 mm.
Tubing is Nickel-Silver 0.4 mm diameter.
I replaced the float rudder operating bar with tubing and had to create the rudder/fin bracing bar (not included in the kit).
The tail plane support struts in the kit is just brass rod, so I made aerofoil struts from tube with internal support rod.
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/taildone1.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/taildone2.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/taildone3.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/taildone4.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/taildone5.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/taildone6.jpg)
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More superb work Mike!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
I've completed pre-rigging the fuselage and wings, apart from the main floats and ailerons.
The rigging is 0.12 mm diameter mono-filament with 'Gaspatch' 1:48th scale turnbuckles and anchor points.
The next step is the fitting of the upper wing before final rigging,
Mike
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging10.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging11.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging12.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging13.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging14.jpg)
(http://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging15.jpg)
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Your spiders are going to be busy !
Terri
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Hi all,
Just as a heads up.
Last night I posted photos for this build in the same way I have for years, linked from my hosting provider to the forum.
Later last night I went to the forum and found that every build photo, of any of my builds, had disappeared.
Not only from this forum but also from others I post in.
I could see everyone else's photo, just not mine.
A couple of various forum members have experienced this problem over the past couple of weeks.
When I checked on my android mobile and Apple IPad devices, I found my Ipad showed the photos, but my mobile did not.
I then tried Microsoft Edge as the browser on my PC and the photos showed.
Judging by comments made by forum members after I'd posted the photos', they obviously could see them, even though I could not.
The only common factor stopping my photos from showing was Google Chrome, my default browser on my PC and mobile.
I've checked all of the known problem settings, but still no joy.
Therefore I've switched browsers to Edge and everything is OK now.
Just thought I'd mention this in case others run into the same problem,
Mike
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Very fine progress. Fingers crossed for the upper wing assembly!
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Hi all,
Just as a heads up.
Last night I posted photos for this build in the same way I have for years, linked from my hosting provider to the forum.
Later last night I went to the forum and found that every build photo, of any of my builds, had disappeared.
Not only from this forum but also from others I post in.
I could see everyone else's photo, just not mine.
A couple of various forum members have experienced this problem over the past couple of weeks.
When I checked on my android mobile and Apple IPad devices, I found my Ipad showed the photos, but my mobile did not.
I then tried Microsoft Edge as the browser on my PC and the photos showed.
Judging by comments made by forum members after I'd posted the photos', they obviously could see them, even though I could not.
The only common factor stopping my photos from showing was Google Chrome, my default browser on my PC and mobile.
I've checked all of the known problem settings, but still no joy.
Therefore I've switched browsers to Edge and everything is OK now.
Just thought I'd mention this in case others run into the same problem,
Mike
Very Odd about your photos Mike. I have been seeing them on Chrome up until today, Now they are gone! I can see Mine and all others just not yours ::) I went to Edge and there they are. Really ODD.
On a positive Note as always your progress is Aewsome!
RAGIII
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Yes it's a strange anomaly and only with Chrome users it seems.
Others have reported the same problems recently on other forums I post on?
Again, if I open the Edge browser, search for and open Google and then search for a forum and go to the posts, the photo's show.
They just can't be seen using the Chrome browser?
Hi all,
The windscreen has been fitted using the kit supplied photo-etch frame and template cut out acetate transparency.
The upper wing has also been fitted.
I had the usual tricky problem of locating all of the struts and at the same time making sure the wings are correctly positioned and aligned.
So now it's onto final rigging for the wings,
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/windscreen.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging16.jpg)
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Hi all,
I think I know what the problem is.
Browsers, such as Google Chrome, are migrating to more secure browsing.
Traditionally, images or web sites linked with a URL address with http:// are being superseded with https://.
This entails someone like me having to purchased and install an SSL certificate for my hosting server, so my web sites and images will show using the various web browsers.
I've started the process of SSL certification and once that's sorted I'll probably need to arrange re-direction of images previously linked to the http:// URL.
Hopefully then me and others won't have the problem of my posted photo's not showing.
We'll see,
Mike
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Hi all,
I think I know what the problem is.
Browsers, such as Google Chrome, are migrating to more secure browsing.
Traditionally, images or web sites linked with a URL address with http:// are being superseded with https://.
This entails someone like me having to purchased and install an SSL certificate for my hosting server, so my web sites and images will show using the various web browsers.
I've started the process of SSL certification and once that's sorted I'll probably need to arrange re-direction of images previously linked to the http:// URL.
Hopefully then me and others won't have the problem of my posted photo's not showing.
We'll see,
Mike
Whatever you did seems to have worked. Photos are visible again on Chrome ;D
RAGIII
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Amazing work and a great step by step to help the rest of us improve our work! Thanks for that!
About the pictures: I'm using nothing but Chrome, both on different PCs and on the mobile, and I've never not seen your pictures.
/Fredrik
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Hi all,
The rigging for the wings has been done, apart from weathering and sealing.
Rigging line is 0.12 mm diameter mono-filament with 0.5 mm diameter tubing.
The crossed bracing wires from the top of the front cabane struts to the top of the fuselage are not shown correctly in the kit instructions.
In reality, the two lines crossed through an 'acorn', similar to that for the Sopwith Camel.
The acorn was made from plastic rod and drilled through with a 0.3 mm diameter hole.
Next is to fit and rig the main floats and after that, fit and rig the ailerons,
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging17.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging18.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging19.jpg)
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I can see the photos again! . . . and what a sweet sight! ;D This Baby is so beautiful Mike. Very well done.
Best,
Bob
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The rigging is outstanding as always Mike!
RAGIII
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Hi all,
I've now completed the bracing wires for the main floats.
Now I'm finishing off the ailerons and their control cables.
The cable pulleys for the upper wing are resin and I don't think are strong enough to take the tension on the rigging line.
Therefore I disregarded them and instead made pulleys from 0.2 mm thick plastic card and 0.8 mm brass rod.
Once the ailerons are sorted I only have a few items to do, such as the pitot tubes, pilots step, float keel etc.
Also I'm waiting for the display case and propeller to be delivered, so I can complete this model.
This will be the last update for this model.
I'll post photographs of the complete build once it's done.
Thanks for everyone's comments and support during this build - much appreciated.
In particular Roberto Andervill for his knowledge on Italian aircraft and forum builds, such as that from 'PrezemoL',
Mike
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging20.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/rigging21.jpg)
(https://www.thatoneplease.co/buildlogs/ANSALDO-BABY/pulleys.jpg)
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The pulleys look great Mike. As always I have enjoyed following your processes!
RAGIII
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Unbelievable work, I’m in awe
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I am really liking this!! I have two of the Baby Sopwiths and this is making me want to move at least one up to the top of the pile.
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Wonderfully executet build Mike - Bravo!