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Title: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on June 20, 2020, 04:15:04 PM

Hello this is my new project: Three SPAD al at 1/48
the SPAD VII JMGT resin with Pinsard's plane decoration:
(https://forum.pages14-18.com/mesimages/11706/Pinsard11.jpg)

SPAD VII Special hobby with Herbelin 's plane decoration
(http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escadrille/Photos3/102_SPAD_Herbelin.jpg)

And SPAD XIII with Roques'plane decoration
(http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escadrille/Photos2/048_Spad7_Roques2.jpg)

see you soon!

Xan

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: andonio64 on June 20, 2020, 04:26:58 PM

Can't miss this, Xan, I'll sign up for notifications!

Antonio

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Alexis on June 20, 2020, 09:30:36 PM

I see the bug that bite Rick has bitten you too , following along with interest Xan  :)


Terri

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: lcarroll on June 21, 2020, 12:06:24 AM

   That's an ambitious project Xan, and will make a magnificent display together. It's great to see so many Spads here lately and I'll enjoy following this grouping!
Cheers,
Lance

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RichieW on June 21, 2020, 12:27:22 AM

Looking forward to this very much. Spad building  seems to be contagious.

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on June 21, 2020, 01:18:13 AM

... and is only allowed in triples? ???  ;D ;D
Eduards SPAD is in my stash, but I was now aware of the company JMGT. Always something to learn here 8) I want to build a version of the "American Eagles" kit, but the strange wing struts and rigging have kept me from doing so so far.
I will watch for sure, what the master is creating!

Cheers,
Frank

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on June 23, 2020, 12:28:46 AM

As always I am looking forward to your builds and the beautiful photos you always provide!
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on June 25, 2020, 06:55:58 PM

Thanks to all.
Let's start with the two SPAD VII., the JMGT and the Special Hobby models.
Both are not accurate, and we are still waiting for the definitive SPAD VII at 1/48


(https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0313/08/jmgt-48-spad-c1-maquette-composite-de_1_b14c2f53dd0f88dc07c5de4ea4057c65.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/06/09//20060909362525370716843811.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/06/09//20060909362525370716843812.jpg)

The special hobby:
(https://modelingmadness.com/review/w1/cleaverspad7bt.jpg)


(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/06/09//20060909362625370716843814.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/06/09//20060909362625370716843815.jpg)

 Part photoetched...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/06/09//20060909362625370716843816.jpg)

here are the size problems in both kits

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/06/09//20060909531925370716843826.jpg)


Xan

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on June 25, 2020, 07:35:25 PM

Xan, looks like an interesting project.  I look forward to your results.

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on June 25, 2020, 10:39:54 PM

I am looking forward to what you do with these. I had both well underway years ago. I am sure yours will come to a far different end than Mine did  ;D
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Pedja on June 26, 2020, 01:47:45 AM

I can't wait to see your building process. Eduard and s. Hobby is already in my stash.

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Borsos on June 26, 2020, 07:33:43 AM

Great project, xan. I am waiting in anticipation what you are doing here.
Andreas

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Brad Cancian on June 26, 2020, 09:20:52 AM

Great project - I also have both kits and have had the idea of a kit-bash as well. I have always liked the JMGT solid fuselage idea (no spine or belly seams) but from what I remember, the fit of the nose piece (especially around the sides of the cockpit) is terrible, as it's not quite as wide as the fuselage. The JMGT resin is also quite brittle, and the wings I have are quite badly warped. The special hobby kit is not without fault, as you say... it's the combination of these issues that has meant the project hasn't started on my bench...

Looking forward to seeing where this goes :)

Cheers,

BC

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RichieW on June 26, 2020, 04:28:30 PM

Looking forward to seeing how you correct all the dimensions Xan. This is going to be fascinating!

Richie

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on June 26, 2020, 07:14:31 PM

Thanks to all this project will be quite long....
I started with the JMGT:

The two fuselage part don't fit well at all....
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/06/09//20060909362525370716843812.jpg)

I tried to rework this joint:
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/06/12//20061211383925370716849194.jpg)
(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/06/12//20061211383925370716849193.jpg)

I started the cockpit:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/06/23//20062311374825370716871217.jpg)

Xan

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on June 26, 2020, 08:55:29 PM

Nice work closing up that joint. Pit looks great, too!

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on June 27, 2020, 12:24:56 AM

Great work on the cockpit! I recall it being difficult to paint some of the details due to the way the kit is molded. Yours looks Awesome!
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Alexis on June 27, 2020, 10:32:25 AM

Nice fix on getting the top/cowl to fit and the details  :)


Terri

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on July 09, 2020, 05:37:27 PM

JMGT cockpit is ended adn the fuselage closed:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/01//20070110275625370716899711.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/01//20070110275725370716899712.jpg)

I started withe the Special hobby's SPAD VII:

the cockppit proposed is in resin but quite poor

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/05//20070509500625370716904168.jpg)

Part proposes the entiere interior in photoetched:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/05//20070509500625370716904169.jpg)

I choosed the Part solution, and I am in it:

 (https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/08//20070810025625370716909394.jpg)

Xan

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 10, 2020, 01:10:50 AM

Excellent use of the part PE to enhance your Special Hobby SPAD! Looking Terrific!
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on July 10, 2020, 03:04:51 AM

Spectacular work on both, Xan!  I have both kits and will use this build log as a guide when I build mine.
Cheers,
Bud

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on July 10, 2020, 06:54:57 AM

Oh yes, this is again a template build for both kits. Super!

Cheers,
Frank

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on July 10, 2020, 07:19:13 AM

Amazing!

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on July 12, 2020, 05:24:19 PM

Thank you!
The Secial hobby is now ended:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/11//20071112062525370716914602.jpg)

Two fuselages are closed, turn to the Eduard wich will be, I do hope, easyer....

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/11//20071112062525370716914603.jpg)

Xan

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Alexis on July 12, 2020, 10:34:29 PM

Excellent progress on both so far  :)


Terri

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 13, 2020, 12:01:39 AM

Your Special Hobby kit's interior looks superb! Both are looking outstanding!
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on July 13, 2020, 07:19:36 AM

Nice!

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on July 17, 2020, 07:18:15 AM

Eduard's early SPAD XIII:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/16//20071612133225370716920908.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/16//20071612133225370716920909.jpg)


(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/16//20071611233725370716922161.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/16//20071611233625370716922160.jpg)

The three cockpit are done:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/16//20071611233925370716922164.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/16//20071611233825370716922163.jpg)

Going back to the JMGT.
It is time to look for the fuselage and there is a lot of work to be done....

Xan

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 17, 2020, 07:21:39 AM

Beautiful work on the SPAD XIII interior. All three are Fantastic! You will catch up with Me soon on your builds  :D
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RichieW on July 17, 2020, 07:37:50 AM

Beautiful work Xan, wonderfully photographed too.

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Alexis on July 17, 2020, 09:59:21 AM

I really like how the Eduard pit turned out , very nice ..all 3 are super !


Terri

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on July 17, 2020, 04:47:10 PM

Thanks Terri.
the fuselage now. Surfacer for all of them , specially in the JMGT i will rebuilt all the front side...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/17//20071707522525370716922350.jpg)

Xan

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on July 17, 2020, 04:51:44 PM

Quote from: Terri on July 17, 2020, 09:59:21 AM

I really like how the Eduard pit turned out

Yes! I think Eduard has done a good job to engineer the complicated layout with this unusual part split, and this build a great paint job renders it beautifully.
How are the fits?

Cheers,
Frank

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 17, 2020, 09:05:44 PM

You are continuing to move right along. The casting is so beautiful on the JMGT kit . It is a shame the fit was/is so poor! One thing to check is I seem to recall a fit issue with the fin and rudder to the fuselage. It might have been me but worth checking!
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on July 19, 2020, 03:32:54 AM

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/18//20071811544225370716923592.jpg)

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 20, 2020, 12:00:43 AM

I am looking forward to seeing the detail replaced on the JMGT kit. Like I said the casting was beautiful...too bad it has to be destroyed to get things smoothly lined up!
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on July 20, 2020, 10:34:10 PM

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/19//20071908540525370716924297.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/19//20071908540525370716924296.jpg)

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on July 20, 2020, 10:36:30 PM

the first one


(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/20//20072002434425370716929174.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/20//20072002434425370716929175.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/20//20072002434425370716929176.jpg)

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 20, 2020, 11:35:59 PM

Excellent start on replacing the panels. Your illustrations and photos make it easy to see the work you do!
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: GazzaS on July 21, 2020, 03:35:42 PM

Ooh, I like that panel technique!  I must try it sometime.

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Alexis on July 21, 2020, 09:30:31 PM

Thumbs up Xan  :)



Terri

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on July 21, 2020, 10:30:11 PM

thanks!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/21//20072102400225370716931016.jpg)

Xan

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Borsos on July 22, 2020, 01:23:23 AM

Nice progress, xan.
Andreas

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RichieW on July 22, 2020, 01:31:22 AM

Beautiful work Xan.

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 23, 2020, 03:56:03 AM

The panels look Fabulous!
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on July 28, 2020, 06:35:55 PM

Going on, at summer speed , but going on...

(https://www.zupimages.net/up/20/25/jx6x.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/07/28//20072810314425370716938491.jpg)

Xan

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on July 28, 2020, 08:26:50 PM

Your Mods are really taking the JMGT kit to a Higher level! Excellent detailing!
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on August 02, 2020, 05:47:13 PM

I was not happy with the representatio of the wodden hatch so i did it again...
The metallic part around the codckpit was not low enough and I retake it too...

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/08/02//20080209331625370716945412.jpg)

I pass a surfacer coat; comparing with the situation at the begining , it is quite better!

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/08/02//20080209373225370716945415.jpg)

It's time for the rivets....

Xan

(https://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=20/25/jx6x.jpg)

Trois options : poinçonneuse, rivets archer et riveteuse.
 je vais certainement faire les gros rivets à l'archer et le petit à la riveteuse...
pour les attaches de la trappe latérale on verra.

Xan

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Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RichieW on August 02, 2020, 06:45:22 PM

Brilliant correction Xan, master modelling!

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: lcarroll on August 02, 2020, 10:26:29 PM

  There's some really fascinating and impressive good old fashioned "real" model building going on here Xan, it's a pleasure to follow your progress! Richie said it well, "master modelling"!
Cheers,
Lance

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: jeroen_R90S on August 02, 2020, 10:48:50 PM

I can only echo Rich and Lance -superb!

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Alexis on August 02, 2020, 11:06:55 PM

Excellent work on the JMGT fuselage  :)


Terri

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on August 02, 2020, 11:08:07 PM

Quote from: RichieW on August 02, 2020, 06:45:22 PM

Brilliant correction Xan, master modelling!

I can't say it any better so will just Agree!
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on August 25, 2020, 12:47:16 AM

Tail is done too:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/08/10//20081011452325370716958017.jpg)

(https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2020/08/24/200824015424310721.jpg)

(https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2020/08/24/20082401542463850.jpg)

Xan

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: PrzemoL on August 25, 2020, 01:27:53 AM

Very impressive work on mediocre kits. It shows me how much I was spoilt by excellence of WNW kits...
I will be watching this thread with great interest.

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on August 25, 2020, 01:42:50 AM

Quote from: lcarroll on August 02, 2020, 10:26:29 PM

  There's some really fascinating and impressive good old fashioned "real" model building going on here Xan, it's a pleasure to follow your progress! Richie said it well, "master modelling"!

I can only sign, what Lance so wonderful said!

And I need to save a reference to this thread for future reference.

Cheers,
Frank

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on August 25, 2020, 02:24:12 AM

Your JMGT kit is really taking shape. Outstanding Modeling!
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Jammed Vickers on August 25, 2020, 02:25:29 AM

Excellent work, Xan. 

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on August 27, 2020, 08:45:18 PM

Back to the Special hobby with the photoetched

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/08/10//20081011391825370716958012.jpg)
I had to erase those parts

When it was done I had to rebuilt the fuselage

(https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2020/08/13/200813111459631733.jpg)

(https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2020/08/13/20081311150058976.jpg)

then the photoetched

(https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2020/08/26/200826113059466995.jpg)

(https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2020/08/26/200826113059725765.jpg)

(https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2020/08/26/200826113059976986.jpg)

Xan

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on August 28, 2020, 08:29:06 AM

Superb Modeling for sure! You are building two kits that I ultimately FAILED at and doing an amazing job!
RAGIII

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: Alexis on August 28, 2020, 09:40:53 AM

Thumbs up Xan !

Terri

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: xan on September 02, 2020, 02:05:09 PM

The Special hobby's tail is detailed too:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/09/01//20090107422125613517003459.jpg)

the two models:

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/09/01//20090107422225613517003460.jpg)

(https://nsm09.casimages.com/img/2020/09/01//20090107561025613517003464.jpg)

it's now time to work on the Eduard SPAD XIII fuselage...

Xan

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: kensar on September 02, 2020, 09:59:11 PM

Lots of nice detail , Xan.  Good work!

Title: Re: SPAD VII and SPAD XIII (JMGT/Special hobby/Eduard) 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on September 03, 2020, 07:43:35 AM

Awesome work on the tail!
RAGIII