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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Completed models => Topic started by: Danh4 on June 16, 2020, 11:58:07 PM
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Not too long ago I built the new Eduard Fokker D.VII and enjoyed it so much that I immediately bought another kit and some Aviattic lozenge decals to improve the only real shortcoming in the kit. Ever mindful of my growing stash, I thought I should build some of the Revell and Roden D.VIIs I had before diving into the new Eduard again. Then I had the bright idea to build the old (1964!) Revell kit alongside Eduard's and see if it could be improved upon enough to stand alongside the newer model.
The Revell kit provides just a shelf for a pilot figure to perch on for a cockpit and a simplified engine top/exhaust header up front. Other than that it is not too bad considering its age. I wanted to add a complete cockpit and engine to bring it up to par and found that the Eduard cockpit parts could be used to make patterns for new parts made from sheet plastic. I also scrounged a PE seat, rudder bar and control column to use. I also used an extra engine from a Roden kit, but had to scratch together the rocker arms to go on top. A bit of cutting had to be done on the Revell fuselage to open up the area for the guns and especially to shoehorn the engine in. I used an extra engine mounting plate from the Eduard kit to locate the Roden engine. The internal dimensions between the Eduard and Revell kit are nearly identical. Note that the Revell kit is the one in white plastic...
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Both kits went together pretty quickly once the internals were in place...
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I planned to use two of the other markings schemes supplied on the Eduard decal sheet this time, but used Aviattic's excellent lozenge decals made specifically to fit the Eduard kit for both. I found that they fit the Revell kit with very little trouble. I used a spare set of guns from the Eduard kit for the Revell as well as an extra exhaust header, wheels and prop.
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Here are the finished kits. There's not much to tell them apart other than Revell's slightly thicker wing struts! (the black one is the Revell kit)
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Thanks for looking!
-Dan
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They both look very good, Dan. Can't really tell them apart. I expect using a few Eduard parts on the Revell did improve it, though.
Nice results!
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Super cool comparison, Dan! I've built both with similar results but not as nice as yours...similar...!! ::)
Nice additions too. Lovely work as usual.
WCDan
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Wow! Lovely results Dan! And that old Revell kit scrubs up very well! Stunning colour schemes you chose too... Regards, Marc
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Two very outstanding builds! It is amazing how one quickly loses track of the differences once detailed and painted! Stunning work all around!
RAGIII
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What a great idea to build the Revell and Eduard D.VII kits in parallel and your completed models look terrific Dan.
Interesting to see that with clever updating and cross kitting the old Revell kit from the 60s still holds its head up beside modern kits. Those Revell WW1 kits from the 60s were absolute classics, the SE5a being my favourite.
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Wonderful job! I've done the same with the Roden and Revell Albatros D.III. That way I can improve on the Revell kit as I desire. I built the Revell Fokker D.VII along with the Roden kit some time ago. Currently I have a Revell SE5a and Roden SE5a almost finished. The extra Eduard and Roden parts can provide some interesting kit bashing with the Revell kits. Aftermarket parts can also help. Please do more!
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Both are done very well , hard to tell the two apart . :)
Terri
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They both look very good, Dan. Can't really tell them apart. I expect using a few Eduard parts on the Revell did improve it, though.
Nice results!
Thanks Ken! The Eduard kit is a treasure trove of spare parts. There must be 6 pairs of wheels leftover, extra guns, props, every style of radiator face, tons of stuff for the parts box!
Dan
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Super cool comparison, Dan! I've built both with similar results but not as nice as yours...similar...!! ::)
Nice additions too. Lovely work as usual.
WCDan
Dan
Thanks Dan! I have to admit that I didn't expect the Revell kit to build up as nicely as it did so it was fun to keep pushing it along.
ECDan
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Wow! Lovely results Dan! And that old Revell kit scrubs up very well! Stunning colour schemes you chose too... Regards, Marc
Thanks Marc!
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Two very outstanding builds! It is amazing how one quickly loses track of the differences once detailed and painted! Stunning work all around!
RAGIII
I think the gaudy paint schemes tend to hide a lot of the differences which helps the old Revell kit.
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What a great idea to build the Revell and Eduard D.VII kits in parallel and your completed models look terrific Dan.
Interesting to see that with clever updating and cross kitting the old Revell kit from the 60s still holds its head up beside modern kits. Those Revell WW1 kits from the 60s were absolute classics, the SE5a being my favourite.
cheers
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
You're right about that old SE5a kit, I've built both it and the Roden kit and it held its own.
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Wonderful job! I've done the same with the Roden and Revell Albatros D.III. That way I can improve on the Revell kit as I desire. I built the Revell Fokker D.VII along with the Roden kit some time ago. Currently I have a Revell SE5a and Roden SE5a almost finished. The extra Eduard and Roden parts can provide some interesting kit bashing with the Revell kits. Aftermarket parts can also help. Please do more!
I've been thinking about what I could do for another "old vs. new" project, need to poke around in the stash to see what I have. I've got a lot of Roden D.VIIs but I like your idea with the Albatros kits, I might have to copy you on that one!
Dan
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Both are done very well , hard to tell the two apart . :)
Terri
Thanks!
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Lovely little pair Dan, crisp and clean and your chosen schemes are very impressive! It's hard to believe they aren't of a larger scale, you've really done a nice job here. A similar double Build with Albies would be interesting for certain!!
Cheers,
Lance
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Two beautiful little gems!
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You have shown clearly here, that masterful hands can create a great model also from a old kit! Both D.VII are great.
I think the main advantage of the new kit are the huge amount of options on wheels, radiator, panels .... so it is much easier to build a historic correct model without to much effort.
To create such models in God's own scale (as Stephen call it) says a lot!
Cheers,
Frank
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Both your models look fantastic, Dan. It's really nice to see how that old Revell kit can look when modelled as you've done. I remember building it so many years ago :)
Cheers,
Gary
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Both great builds and its amazing what a little sprue(cing) can do for the Revell kit
Steve
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That is a really interesting comparison. I had the Revell kit (now sold on) but did build one a long time ago. Yours is a huge improvement on the basic kit but when it is finished it is very difficult to recognise its age. Two very impressive models - and in the True Scale which makes them even better!
Stephen.
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Great builds!
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Perfect Dan, seriously beautiful work. Having completely trashed the three 1/72 biplanes I attempted last year I can only marvel at these exquisite builds!
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Very good work, Sir.
It is nice to see the old and new together, and a pleasure to hear the old one holds its own.
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Very nice pair ! Look larger than 1/72.
Ed
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very nicely built and finished pair of DVII - kudos! That Revell kit brings up good memories - built a couple many many years ago - always felt it really nailed the major shapes just perfect and needed just a little enhancement and love to shine - as you have done so well here!