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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => What's New => Topic started by: Dave W on June 07, 2020, 01:38:40 PM
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With the closure of Wingnut Wings, modellers' expectations for new releases have shifted to companies such as Copper State Models, and it's fair to say some of the expectations imposed on them are unrealistic.
There are assumptions that CSM will somehow fill the Wingnut gap with a ramped up production line of new aircraft kits every few months. The reality is different.
Unlike Wingnuts CSM does not have a multi millionaire funding the business. Edgar Liepinsh of Copper State says kit sales fund development of new projects and at the moment WW1 armoured cars are generating more income than sales of aircraft kits.
Consequently the Hansa Brandenburg DI project is on hold, due to low sales of CSM's 1/32 scale Nieuports - both the 17 and 21-23 variants.
Edgar says the Hansa Brandenburg moulds are very expensive so Copper State is looking for a way to get some money for this project.
He notes armoured cars are doing much better for CSM, so they are trying to earn more money from armoured cars to re-invest into 1/32 scale aircraft.
Edgar assures forum members that Copper State has not abandoned the Hansa Brandenburg D.1 project, merely paused it to develop other kits to fund it, mindful that customers now expect WW1 kits to be of a particular quality.
Now for the good news- Copper State is completing its next 1/32 scale aircraft model, one not previously done, which is a single-engine multi-purpose French two-seater. For now he is not disclosing the subject name so let the guessing begin!
And there's also another one that's been in development for a while now, which he describes as "not another boring PC-10 British aeroplane (although it has also PC-10)". No clues to its identity have been offered.
CSM will feed the armoured car market with its forthcoming Minerva armoured car ( A Belgian WW1 vehicle). An Italian Lancia armoured car is also in development and scheduled for later this year as well.
So for a small company Copper State has a full production slate but while they would like to expand their aircraft range, they can't afford to release a new 1/32 aircraft kit every six 6 months.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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If you want new CSM 1/48th and 1/32nd scale kits then buy their existing 1/48 and 1/32 kits.
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If you want new CSM 1/48th and 1/32nd scale kits then buy their existing 1/48 and 1/32 kits.
Precisely! And their armored cars are a wonderful change of pace for when the WWI aircraft doldrums hit.
Cheers,
Bud
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Having build both the Lanchesternand the Romfell, I can only say that they are kits of the highest quality, worthy of your time, attention and your money!
I don't think that there will ever be better kits of these models, attention to detail and instructions is amazing.
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Thank you Dave!
I only bought one of their Nieuports so far, although I am not a huge Nieuport-fan. But I am a fan of the quality of CSM's kits!
Unfortunately I don't want to have armoured cars (although CSM's are really looking good), so I don't buy them. (Or did not buy any yet.) As I want CSM to go on producing those beautiful high-level kits they produced up to now, I do buy their really beautiful resin figures. But only one from time to time. All in all I am afraid that unfortunately it won't be me, who will significantly fund their new 1/32 WW1 aircraft. Sad! Maybe I will get another Nieuport? Maybe a Minerva? Some more figures? Hoping that CSM will somehow be able to produce the Starstrutter! - By the way: My guess for the french 2-seater: Sopwith 1 1/2 Strutter.
Richard
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i have plans to buy 3 more late 17s, 3 21s, and a 23...
however, at the moment i don't have the money. blew my budget hoovering up WNW kits while they were still available at retail prices. i'm not funded by a multimillionaire either so i'll have to wait for more pay before i do this.
not very interested in armor generally, but the armored cars do look interesting.
my hope is that the French 2 seater is a Breguet 14, but it might be a Nieuport 12...
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A French 2 seater and British Type sounds good!
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I‘d open a bottle of champagne if CSM would release a Nieuport 12. I am looking forward in anticipation to this release (whatever it is. We urgently need French twoseaters) and the armored cars. I was looking for the SPARTA resin Lancia until I saw CSM preparing one :)
Andreas
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Although this is not a wishlist here, a german Erhardt armoured car would be tempting even for me.
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Cackling like witches around a Caudron.....
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The French two seater sounds Fantastic. If a Strutter I will need a couple. If something else at least one! A Non boring single seater with PC 10. FE8 or DH5 :-) The expected Nieuport 23 in RFC service ? Looking forward to whatever they are!
RAGIII
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What I take from this is that, as a forum, we are not representative of the wider modelling community.
Lots of us bought at least one Nieuport kit, but it seems it was nowhere near enough for CSM to make a reasonable profit. So the wider modelling community didn't buy it in large enough numbers.
It's tricky, because we never knew the volume of kits WNW sold. Is there a possibility that the WWI 1/32 market is not as large as we think it is? Are CSM getting the pricing correct - a few modellers have told me the price is just a bit too high, especially with Roden kits available for around a third of the CSM Nieuport price?
Maybe CSM are making the right move by working on previously unreleased subjects, with Roden - via pricing - and WNW - via quality - having saturated the market for the types they've made.
I, for one, are far more likely to buy a French two seater & new British type than a Nieuport. I have 4 Roden's, 2 Special Hobby's & an Academy - seven, or eight including the CSM XVII Late. Whereas I have zero French 2 seaters (besides the Salmson), so I'll get at least one, several if it's a Caudron G.4 or Breguet XIV.
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A Breguet or Cauldron would have a pretty decent wingspan in 1/32.
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Cackling like witches around a Caudron.....
Oh yes, so true.
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i vote for a Breguet XIV/14. high production numbers, so a lot of decoration possibilities, including USA!
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I will keep supporting Edgar/CSM in their future endeavors. Can wait until future releases as the stash will outlast me. Wishing them all the best.
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From an Australian perspective (based on exchange rates) I fail to see the difference in pricing between csm and WNM give the quality is commensurate. I have to admit to being a fan of their armoured cars. Anyhow let’s hope enthusiasm for Great War subject’s continues to grow. Cheers Matt
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Hhmmmm........I think that a visit to the CSM website with CC in hand is in order.
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I have and will continue to support CSM via purchasing N17/23 - these are fantastic kits!
I was somewhat discouraged though at responses on another forum when these were first released - even though several were praising the CSM N17 kit there were some responses that amounted to "I will wait till WNW inevitably starts doing Nieuports to purchases any...."
Maybe folks will branch out a little and try CSM (and maybe Roden) kits now?
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Not sure how much longer the free shipping for purchases over 100 Euros will run, but sweetens the deal a bit.
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I‘d open a bottle of champagne if CSM would release a Nieuport 12. I am looking forward in anticipation to this release (whatever it is. We urgently need French twoseaters) and the armored cars. I was looking for the SPARTA resin Lancia until I saw CSM preparing one :)
Andreas
i'd open a bottle for a Breguet 14. unfortunately the Breguet at the Royal Thai Air Force Museum is a replica, but the rest of the collection is still awesome.
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I bought both Nieuport 17's, but I already have both the 21 & 23 in the same markings in 1/48th scale. I was just waiting to see if they'll release some decals or subsequent editions for those flown by western allies, particularly Escadrille Lafayette.
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I bought both Nieuport 17's, but I already have both the 21 & 23 in the same markings in 1/48th scale. I was just waiting to see if they'll release some decals or subsequent editions for those flown by western allies, particularly Escadrille Lafayette.
I plan to do My 23 as Andrew Courtney Campbell's from SPA/N124 I will use one of Pheons Sioux Heads from the SPAD VII sheet and serial numbers from leftover N XVII late sheets 8) Although I am tempted I will Not remove the Port Lower wing ::) Just for the record we all should remember that Edgar has said these are limited additions. So waiting May be the worse thing one can do! Like Dave pointed out, New releases depend on sales so if it takes too long for these versions/ markings to sell out then we May not see another issue! JMHO,
RAGIII
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I'll put my order now period, these folks need to know we are here to support them. Fingers crossed that the next release is a beautiful Breguet XIV Bomber
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Reading cryptically it could be a Sopwith Strutter 2 seat French version and one seat British. Or Caudron / Breguet and Dh5/Fe8/? OR something else entirely! Whatever it is we welcome it. :D
I looked up the wingspan on the Cauldron G4. It would be just over 40cm wingspan. So not too big but at the limits of my building size (and rigging capabilities).
PS These days my autocorrect really seems to have a mind of it’s own, anyone else find that? D
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Bottom line: If you want Copper State Models to make more 1/32 scale aircraft, you better buy the Nieuports now and not later. WNW ain't makin' one. Copper State's is a fantastic model that is every bit as good as a WNW kit and maybe even a little better, IMHO.
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My hope is for a Breguet XIV but I will buy anything in 32 scale
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Me too, a significant aircraft with lots of interesting schemes,would be an impressive model in 1/32.
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A breguet 14 would be obvious
one of the most importants planes of the war
8000 planes built
widely used by 25 different air forces
tons of interesting schemes
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Although this thread is developing into a wishlist (in opposite to a guess-list) I won't join in...
I would love to see a Breguet XIV, too, but I am afraid that this is a bird to big for CSM at the moment.
Guess: 1 1/2 Strutter.
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Although this thread is developing into a wishlist (in opposite to a guess-list) I won't join in...
I would love to see a Breguet XIV, too, but I am afraid that this is a bird to big for CSM at the moment.
Guess: 1 1/2 Strutter.
+1 but happy with whatever they bring out.
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Although this thread is developing into a wishlist (in opposite to a guess-list) I won't join in...
I would love to see a Breguet XIV, too, but I am afraid that this is a bird to big for CSM at the moment.
Guess: 1 1/2 Strutter.
+1 but happy with whatever they bring out.
Actually, me too. You're right!
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Although this thread is developing into a wishlist (in opposite to a guess-list) I won't join in...
I would love to see a Breguet XIV, too, but I am afraid that this is a bird to big for CSM at the moment.
Guess: 1 1/2 Strutter.
the odds of it disappointing me are almost zero.
i'd be delighted by 1 1/2 Strutter.
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I have 3 CSM Nieuports. Their kits are very good and I for one will continue to support them even though I currently have more than I can build in my remaining lifetime. If they keep them coming I will keep buying!!
PS - Also, Edgar is a great guy and has answered a few questions have had in the past.
Mike
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Very exciting news.
With two of their Nieuports in the stash I really welcome more 1:32 planes from Copperstate, A french two seater I will definately buy. As well as their Lancia and Minerva.
Cheers
/Mikael
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with that oustanding quality, any CSM new aircraft model is welcome
I'd like to have a Caudron G.3 and a vickers FB.19 in 1/32
... and a Caproni Ca.3 c'mon...
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Great thread, I agree that whatever they produce I will likely add it to my stash. I am firmly of the opinion they are as well done as WNW and am incredibly impressed with their kit design, molding, packaging and presentation. While I find Roden-bashing really quite tedious (they are fine kits worthy of any decent modelers’ attention), I feel CSM does indeed exceed Roden quality, no question. I have both boxing’s of the Nieuport XVII, and will forthwith be ordering the XXI and XXIII. And perhaps an armored car as well :-)
Jimbo
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The Breguet would be my favorite and initial guess. But it is a large and complex aircraft with a new engine, I believe a Renault. There is a cage work of tubular fuselage and emergency controls for the second seat. On the B-2 variant, opening panels on the the bottom, flaps and the Michelin bomb racks. On the surface, the A2 differs with the lack of the bomb racks, flaps, (I believe) the opening panel on the belly and glazing on the sides of the second cockpit. On Fb there is a French scratch built example appearing which is a frame out representation in 1/32!
The Strutter would be welcomed as would a Caudron G-3.
How about a Voisin LA-3?
For the items in the first paragraph, I would really like to see the Breguet.
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I love the Nie17 as a subject and have lots of Hobbycraft/ Academy kits as well as lots of SH 11s and 16s and Roden 24s and 27s - but I have only bought one of the superb CSM 17 kits
Why?
Because I want to model Billy Bishop, Archie Miller and Albert Ball and other silver RFC subjects. I understood that these would be forthcoming but so far, no sign.
I just don't like French subjects without top surface cockardes so I've only bought 32002; and I don't want to use poor old HC decals or buy AM ones in case CSM then do actually release said kites.
I'll pass on Italian or Russian machines, but I'm disappointed to learn that the company's limited resources are maybe moving away from a long-awaited RFC 17.
Of course I'll buy just about anything released in future, but I wonder how many others are holding back like me?
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I'm also clinging to my Amodel and Special Hobby 1/32nd N.11 and N.16s, Roden N.28, S.VII, and Hobbycraft S.XIII as long as they're the only game in town for 1/32nd. However, as with my former Hobbycraft N.17s I am prone to retiring older kits whenever an amazing new kit that represents a quantum leap in accuracy and detail with much finer decals comes along. CSM's kits certainly met those criteria, so off to the club raffle donor box went my old Hobbycrafts- along with double their value in resin correction parts and aftermarket decals. It'll be the same story for the others if and when their time comes.
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Thank you guys for your support
Just wanted to add, that Nie 23 RFC is still in our plans)
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Thank you guys for your support
Just wanted to add, that Nie 23 RFC is still in our plans)
Looking forward to that one too. Keep up the great work :D :D :D
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I'll have that as soon as released, Edgar. What about an RFC 17 though, is that not in the plans still?
Cheers
Sandy
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I will show you something tomorrow
as for Nie17 RFC, back then we did not really paid much attention to RFC differences for 17 and 23
But since we have picked the markings it appears that all of the machines are Nie23. As for Nie17 RFC we have some ideas about that, but I can not tell you what exactly it will be yet)
But I think we all going to love it
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I will show you something tomorrow
as for Nie17 RFC, back then we did not really paid much attention to RFC differences for 17 and 23
But since we have picked the markings it appears that all of the machines are Nie23. As for Nie17 RFC we have some ideas about that, but I can not tell you what exactly it will be yet)
But I think we all going to love it
Excellent News Edgar! BY the way, The RFC OFTEN mistook what version of Nieuport they were actually using at Squadron Level. It seems that the Vickers installation was removed at the depots and only the front bracing wires can confirm which variant it is in photos. I have also read that there was a slighltly different mounting plate for the lewis, IIRC the location of the bolts. So Although some popular RFC Nieuports are listed as 17's , even in Squadron records, they are sometimes actually 23's. RFC Nieuports can be a slippery slope ::)
RAGIII
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I hadn't heard that before Rick, but it certainly makes sense.
If so, I don't mind if we get 17s or 23s, I just want to build some CSM quality verifiable silver Nieuports with big blue outer roundels!
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I will show you something tomorrow
as for Nie17 RFC, back then we did not really paid much attention to RFC differences for 17 and 23
But since we have picked the markings it appears that all of the machines are Nie23. As for Nie17 RFC we have some ideas about that, but I can not tell you what exactly it will be yet)
But I think we all going to love it
Excellent News Edgar! BY the way, The RFC OFTEN mistook what version of Nieuport they were actually using at Squadron Level. It seems that the Vickers installation was removed at the depots and only the front bracing wires can confirm which variant it is in photos. I have also read that there was a slighltly different mounting plate for the lewis, IIRC the location of the bolts. So Although some popular RFC Nieuports are listed as 17's , even in Squadron records, they are sometimes actually 23's. RFC Nieuports can be a slippery slope ::)
RAGIII
Howdy Rick)
Well, the list of all Nieuport in RFC service was published a long time ago and we are using it, where you can see a production number from the French Factory and what "rudder" number it received in RFC
Very often you can not get a good photo of the cabane struts to check which Nie it was....so I would stick to that table)
But usually, Nie17 in RFC service had the first latter A and nei11 style engine cowl but deeply cut like on Eindeckers
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Side note - I just want to say Edgar that it's great that you are on the forum here engaging directly with the customers - I think that's a very special thing for all of us here, I am sure that I am one amongst many who values this kind of opportunity.
Thanks again!
BC
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I will show you something tomorrow
as for Nie17 RFC, back then we did not really paid much attention to RFC differences for 17 and 23
But since we have picked the markings it appears that all of the machines are Nie23. As for Nie17 RFC we have some ideas about that, but I can not tell you what exactly it will be yet)
But I think we all going to love it
Excellent News Edgar! BY the way, The RFC OFTEN mistook what version of Nieuport they were actually using at Squadron Level. It seems that the Vickers installation was removed at the depots and only the front bracing wires can confirm which variant it is in photos. I have also read that there was a slighltly different mounting plate for the lewis, IIRC the location of the bolts. So Although some popular RFC Nieuports are listed as 17's , even in Squadron records, they are sometimes actually 23's. RFC Nieuports can be a slippery slope ::)
RAGIII
Howdy Rick)
Well, the list of all Nieuport in RFC service was published a long time ago and we are using it, where you can see a production number from the French Factory and what "rudder" number it received in RFC
Very often you can not get a good photo of the cabane struts to check which Nie it was....so I would stick to that table)
But usually, Nie17 in RFC service had the first latter A and nei11 style engine cowl but deeply cut like on Eindeckers
Thanks Edgar, Like Brad said it is great to have you here and interacting directly. I had forgotten about books like the Nieuport in RFC Service book. That should keep things straight ;D
RAGIII
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Side note - I just want to say Edgar that it's great that you are on the forum here engaging directly with the customers - I think that's a very special thing for all of us here, I am sure that I am one amongst many who values this kind of opportunity.
Thanks again!
BC
Well said, Brad!
100% agree.
Thanks for all you do, Edgar ;)
vB
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I just got to figure out how to get CSM kits to South Africa... our customs, postal service, airlines etc etc just aren't working yet! But I will make a plan... Regards and Thank You Edgar for some great inspiration! Nieuport 12 coming? To make happy! Marc.
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What a difference makes the owner of CSM, no red tape on future production, and full engagement with customers !!
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So here is the box art I was talking about yesterday)
(https://i.ibb.co/z29FCK2/rfc.jpg)
Not yet published
but we showed it at Nuremberg Toy Fair, not that much though)
and we are planning to have it ready for Telford 2020)
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Yes, that‘s another one I need to own... :)
Andreas
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Awesome Edgar, will have to get a couple of these too. If possible, would you have which aircraft are represented in this boxing (pretty please with sugar on top ;D ;D).
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I have built both Nieuport 17s, which were two of the best kits I've ever had the pleasure of building. I'm currently working on the 21 and the 23 and, as near perfect as 17s are, these are even better. Now it seems I'm going to have to have a couple of the RFC kits. One can never have enough Nieuports.
Cheers,
Bud
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Wow, that box art is beautiful. I have a late 17 in the stash and it looks incredibly well detailed. One of these will definitely be joining it.
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Awesome Edgar, will have to get a couple of these too. If possible, would you have which aircraft are represented in this boxing (pretty please with sugar on top ;D ;D).
It is Philip Fletcher Fullard
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Yeeeesssss. There is a God in this world.
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Yes, that‘s another one I need to own... :)
Andreas
Me too !
Terri
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Sweet! Thanks, Edgar.
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Any time the CSM Nieuports get additional markings, that is a good thing indeed. Want!
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So here is the box art I was talking about yesterday)
(https://i.ibb.co/z29FCK2/rfc.jpg)
Not yet published
but we showed it at Nuremberg Toy Fair, not that much though)
and we are planning to have it ready for Telford 2020)
Thank you Edgar! And Fullard is a great choice!
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That looks great!
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Hi Edgar, great selection for cover, can you share the other marking options. Not pushing, inquiring minds would like to know.
:o :o
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I need to sell a few 1/32nd WW2 kits to get ready for this one and get a 21 also ;D
RAGIII
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That box art is just stunning, Edgar! I love that low ground-level perspective and the morning mist. Beautiful rendering of what promises to be an exciting kit. I will definitely buy these. When will they be available for pre-order? Waiting anxiously right now for the imminent arrival of my XXI and XXIII. Thanks!
Best regards,
Bob
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Bartender, serve me another! I have several of these. I will have Nieuport 17-23 in several nationalities. Found an Italian Ruffo di Calabria figure for my Italian Job!
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That box art is worthy of a print!
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I have often wondered how many more victories 'Fullard' would of gone on to claim had he not fractured his leg. Who knows, perhaps the break saved his life. We will never know ::)
Soooo happy to see his kite in a CSM box.
I will be adding to my collection. Be rude not to!
von B
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Edgar, that Fullard ship is divine! it is exactly what i was hoping for. Hazell's and Campbell's ships will be easy enough to do even if you don't provide decals, as they're also 1 Squadron. Will you have decals for one of Bishop's?
i will need to add these to the list. i still don't have enough of the early XVII to do all the planes i want, and now you're making my list MUCH longer! thanks for that, i'm looking forward to these RFC kits.
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Great artwork. Put me down for a RFC version now (But after reading about Billy Bishop’s controversial VC won’t be building his)
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Great artwork. Put me down for a RFC version now (But after reading about Billy Bishop’s controversial VC won’t be building his)
i will, i usually go for "historically important" and "interesting story," not necessarily heroes (Barker, on the other hand, is all of the above as far as I'm concerned, and Collishaw).
i draw the line at Goering however. mainly because i can't stand to look at him or his ship.
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About the markings that we are currently picking/making)
Nieuport 23. B3459, was flown extensively in combat by Capt Fullard to gain 16 of this final 40 victories including the capture of a Junkers J.I before ending its days in Egypt.
Nieuport 23. B1552, flown by Lt.E. `Mick` Mannock, 40 Sqn RFC, (with different top wing roundels (wing repair probably?))
Nieuport 23. B1566, flown by Capt W.A. Bishop, 60 Sqn RFC (not sure if we need to add C.5 on the fuselage though)
This three will be in the kit, what other markings you would like to see in the kit?
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Well Edgar, that’s a very nice selection of markings! No easy choice there—I’ll need at least three kits. ;D Very exciting!
Best regards,
Bob
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About the markings that we are currently picking/making)
Nieuport 23. B3459, was flown extensively in combat by Capt Fullard to gain 16 of this final 40 victories including the capture of a Junkers J.I before ending its days in Egypt.
Nieuport 23. B1552, flown by Lt.E. `Mick` Mannock, 40 Sqn RFC, (with different top wing roundels (wing repair probably?))
Nieuport 23. B1566, flown by Capt W.A. Bishop, 60 Sqn RFC (not sure if we need to add C.5 on the fuselage though)
This three will be in the kit, what other markings you would like to see in the kit?
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well there you go. 3 more i need with the decals already in the box. i didn't even think about Mannock flying Nieuports, that's brilliant. his B3607 is a nice looking ship, too... maybe an aftermarket decal set, like the Italian XVIIs? i think the 3 you listed are perfect for the kit options... How about Tom Falcon Hazell? 1 Squadron like Fullard, so a lot of markings likely re-usable.
i've not yet opened the Billy Bishop can of worms, but if the ship really had the C 5 marking at some point, i'd like that in the kit for sure.
here are some more things that would excite me (and hopefully others) as options, maybe aftermarket sheets:
How about Ball's A201 or A213? The Aerodrome lists it as a XVII, but it lists Mannock's ship as a XVII also... i don't have the Cross and Cockade book that breaks 'em all down by serial numbers yet but visually the difference is just in the Lewis gun mount?
delighted with the plans for this release.
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I want to exclude Ball for now)
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i've not yet opened the Billy Bishop can of worms, but if the ship really had the C 5 marking at some point, i'd like that in the kit for sure.
How about Ball's A201 or A213? The Aerodrome lists it as a XVII, but it lists Mannock's ship as a XVII also... i don't have the Cross and Cockade book that breaks 'em all down by serial numbers yet but visually the difference is just in the Lewis gun mount?
delighted with the plans for this release.
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A lot of pilots made false claims but the Bishop VC controversy is worth reading up on. For this reason I’d prefer to do Ball. But will buy this kit, the Fuller one looks great. Thanks Edgar and CSM!
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Maybe one from 29 C Flight? There is a profile in Nieuport Aces of WW1 of B1506 6 C flown by A W B Miller in which he scored all six of his victories and was shot down in it. That same reference states that Flight leader A S Shepherd flew B1504 marked 1 C and scored 9 of his 10 victories in it. I think these look pretty good with the fancy fuselage number/letter and the red band
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/f3/ea/d4f3ea313812ceb8550c3addb39b4eba.jpg)
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A lot of pilots made false claims but the Bishop VC controversy is worth reading up on. For this reason I’d prefer to do Ball. But will buy this kit, the Fuller one looks great. Thanks Edgar and CSM!
i've a superficial knowledge of the allegations. most pilots didn't so much make fake claims as overly optimistic claims. Bishop on the other hand attracts the attention of revisionist historians.
also several memoirs refer to a loudmouth pilot making false claims and fake missions... seems likely the unnamed pilot may be Bishop.
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This is great news! I have a 1/32nd N.16 and S.E.5 in the stash for Ball and Mannock, respectively. So I will soon have to choose which of them also gets a Nieuport 23... not a bad problem to have.
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Oh, Edgar, what an elixir this is...perfectly timed...and Mannock's machine? Beautiful...it'd probably be unlikely but how about Mannock's pal in 40 RFC, McScotch - William MacLanachan-...wrote one of the most underrated books of Great War aviation mostly about Mannock; FIGHTER PILOT.
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I'm very keen on a British machine too... Well done, Elgar!
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Like I said, show me any photos, maybe a history behind the machine or the pilot who flew it and we will check and see if it is possible to add it
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Awesome News on the choices of Markings. I never intended to do Mannock's but probably will ;D Or perhaps another. Will certainly get one of these!
RAGIII
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Hopefully your sales Edgar will pick up with these and previous Nieuport releases - to fund the next project.
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A lot of pilots made false claims but the Bishop VC controversy is worth reading up on. For this reason I’d prefer to do Ball. But will buy this kit, the Fuller one looks great. Thanks Edgar and CSM!
i've a superficial knowledge of the allegations. most pilots didn't so much make fake claims as overly optimistic claims. Bishop on the other hand attracts the attention of revisionist historians.
also several memoirs refer to a loudmouth pilot making false claims and fake missions... seems likely the unnamed pilot may be Bishop.
Yes that’s true. Many claims were made in the excitement and stress of battle, and RFC claims were harder to verify. Just got WNW Goering Fokker. Wasn’t going too because he too was a complete buffoon. But it’s all about the kit itself and with my ham fisted figure painting he’ll come out generic anyway. Good times to be a WW1 modeller! Daz
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Maybe one from 29 C Flight? There is a profile in Nieuport Aces of WW1 of B1506 6 C flown by A W B Miller in which he scored all six of his victories and was shot down in it. That same reference states that Flight leader A S Shepherd flew B1504 marked 1 C and scored 9 of his 10 victories in it. I think these look pretty good with the fancy fuselage number/letter and the red band
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d4/f3/ea/d4f3ea313812ceb8550c3addb39b4eba.jpg)
I would love to see markings for Alfred Seymour Shepherd's B1504 '1C'. There is a nice colour side view of this aircraft on page 29 of Cross and Cockade's 'Nieuports in RNAS, RFC and RAF Service' It has yellow wheels that look very colourful with 29 Squadron's red band. He scored nine of his ten victories in this aircraft and was shot down and killed in it on the 20 July 1917 by Alfred Niederhoff of Jasta 11. I've also got a sneaking suspicion that the numeral/letter combination was reversed on the port side of the aircraft eg: Starboard '1C', Port 'C1'.
Dave Rickard
Rockhampton QLD
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Like I said, show me any photos, maybe a history behind the machine or the pilot who flew it and we will check and see if it is possible to add it
that's great... do make sure you keep the ones you listed though please ;)
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Very interesting situation
both plans are identified as B3474
but you can clearly see that it may not be correct as planes have different fuselage decorations
It is stated that B3474 achieved many victories in combat when flown by Capt Hazell, 2Lt Campbell and Capt Jenkins.
But which of them is real B3474 or which of them is the one those pilots really used
Also, we know that the 1 SQN had that vertical bar on the fuselage (always?)
(https://i.ibb.co/YNszQvs/2020-06-14-19-11-06.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/dWLpPnB/2020-06-14-19-14-23.png)
We can add it to the markings)
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A Breguet or Cauldron would have a pretty decent wingspan in 1/32.
- CSM's release may well be a Nieuport two seater, a Nieuport 10 or 12?
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A Giv wouldn’t be too wide, but a Gvi...
Nieuport quite possible. Lots of good options
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I'll take a couple Breguet XIV's no problem.
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I just put an order with CSM for more than EUR $100, this is my token of contribution to this company for producing these amazing kits and support future developments of more 1/32 WWI aircraft. Vamos CSM!!!
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After years of deliberation and not being fully convinced if I want to have it, I have finally decided to support CSM - their first 32nd scale kit - Ni17 Early - has just landed at my door. It looks very promising and the plan is to build it very soon, after the current project is completed :-)
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Well done PrzemoL, it's a really nice kit. You won't be dissapointed. Regards, Pete in RI
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Haven’t built it but the plastic looks real nice. Both box and instructions are also nicely presented. I intend to buy a few more.
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Considering there is no stock left of the Nieuports in Australia, I asked CSM on their FB page about this considering their statement of low sales in WW1 kits.
"HB D.I moulds cost double of Caudron GIII, we do not have huge sales in our WWI segment, which mean we need to carefully plan what to produce and when to do it. At this point, with such prices on mould manufacturing, we will be able to return the cost in like 10 years or even longer" https://www.facebook.com/copperstatemodels/ (https://www.facebook.com/copperstatemodels/)
Apparently they have no stock left of any of the Nieuports until 2-3 weeks was my reply from CSM today. Looks like they are selling pretty well, even though they say they don't get enough sales of the WW1 aircraft kits.
I had to order my XVII Late on eBay from China...sigh