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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Bill_S on May 15, 2020, 01:04:29 AM

Title: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Bill_S on May 15, 2020, 01:04:29 AM: My first Under Construction post on this forum. I got this kit from another modeler; it was part of the Duelist set; there is no box art to be had.

I started a year ago, and put it away for a while.

Much of the initial work on the engine has been completed, though there is still a bit to do.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pXDPZs6s/DSCN2345-1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/SxfNygLn/DSCN2344-1.jpg)

Cockpit framing has a base coat of Model Master (enamel) Radome tan, with an application of Winsor & Newton Burnt Umber. I'm giving it time to dry, then A spray of Tamiya clear orange prior to detail painting and assembly.

(https://i.postimg.cc/htBtWkmF/DSCN2343-1.jpg)
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: rhallinger on May 15, 2020, 01:18:14 AM: Great start Bill! The wood looks very convincing. This is an interesting aeroplane, and I look forward to your progress.

Best regards,

Bob
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Ryan on May 15, 2020, 04:25:25 AM: Welcome Bill, good to see you here.

Ryan
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: RichieW on May 15, 2020, 07:09:43 AM: Good start Bill, I think you'll enjoy this forum. I only joined a few months ago and the folks here have been so kind with passing on tips and encouragement. You don't appear to be in need of any tips, what you have done so far is first class!
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: RAGIII on May 15, 2020, 07:49:56 AM: Like the others have said you have made an excellent start! Welcome to the Forum and Under construction threads!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Alexis on May 15, 2020, 11:36:52 AM: Nice clean work on the engine so far and your woodgrain is very convincing :)

Terri
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Bill_S on May 15, 2020, 05:51:54 PM: A little bit of work on cockpit components:

Control column; I'm using EZ-Line the tubes are from Bob's Buckles (1.0 mm long).

(https://i.postimg.cc/C5JN3mjT/DSCN2346-1.jpg)

The rudder bar has a tube cemented to it. The control cable will pass through it - eventually.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7Ys9XtHS/DSCN2347-1.jpg)
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Mike Norris on May 15, 2020, 05:55:42 PM: Hi Bill,
Great start on a nice model.
If you're interested I have my build log for the W.29 free to download on my site (link below).
Gallery 2 and click the PDF icon to view or download the log.
Keep the updates coming,

Mike
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: RAGIII on May 15, 2020, 08:58:47 PM: Outstanding work on the column and rudder bar rigging!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Bill_S on May 18, 2020, 08:11:42 PM: Cockpit assembly commences...

(https://i.postimg.cc/xdPJ916M/DSCN2349-1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3RJyNQq6/DSCN2348-1.jpg)

And I've run into my first hurdle: the kit I got did not come with any of the small decals that were on the Felixstowe sheet. It looks like I'm going to have to cobble something up from Airscale's WWI instruments sheet. Luckily, I have a set on hand!
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: RAGIII on May 18, 2020, 09:26:37 PM: excellent work! The wood tone/pattern on the floorboard is awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Ryan on May 18, 2020, 10:14:22 PM: Bill, superb.

Ryan
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: bobs_buckles on May 19, 2020, 03:18:59 AM: Bill,
Which EZ-line are you using? Fine or heavy??

Cheers,
Bob
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: lone modeller on May 19, 2020, 03:19:03 AM: Very neat and tidy work there. The wood effect is very realistic.

Stephen.
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Bill_S on May 19, 2020, 10:43:11 AM: Thanks for the kind comments, folks.

Quote from: bobs_buckles on May 19, 2020, 03:18:59 AM
Bill,
Which EZ-line are you using? Fine or heavy??

Cheers,
Bob

Bob, I only ever use the fine EZ-Line!
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: GazzaS on May 19, 2020, 06:53:49 PM: Some tidy work, Bill! Looks great!
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Bill_S on May 21, 2020, 03:01:49 PM: A little more progress. The instrument dial are a work of fiction, but it was the best I could do. Waiting on some Airscale placards to see if I can dress it up a bit more.

(https://i.postimg.cc/SRh0jrZv/DSCN2352-1.jpg)

Cockpit is close; I have a couple of control cables to run, peripherals will wait until just prior to closing the fuselage up.

(https://i.postimg.cc/TwfbJy3H/DSCN2353-1.jpg)

The first WNW kit I've built with two-piece (upper and lower) wing sections. Close them cemented - only one seam to fill!

(https://i.postimg.cc/CMv8bxTm/DSCN2354-1.jpg)
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: RAGIII on May 21, 2020, 09:09:40 PM: Your IP looks great even without the proper decals for the dials! The cockpit construction looks excellent, as does the beginning of the wing!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: GazzaS on May 23, 2020, 08:37:55 PM: Nice!
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: rhallinger on May 23, 2020, 08:43:07 PM: Cockpit looks great, very reakistic to my eye. Keep going!

Best regards,

Bob
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Bill_S on May 26, 2020, 01:17:44 AM: I was digging through a box the other day, and I found the instrument dials for the W.29! I'm going to leave the IP as-is and save them for another day. At least I can use the small dtat plates for the engine now.

Laid down a coat of radome tan on the fuselage interior. Once dry, I gave it the oil treatment.

(https://i.postimg.cc/pdtkXyVX/DSCN2356-1.jpg)

After wiping:

(https://i.postimg.cc/9fpPmpNJ/DSCN2357-1.jpg)

A couple of days to dry, then I can spray the clear orange topcoat. It will be nice to button up the fuselage. I tried to anneal the jackets for the Spandaus, and one of them curled up and melted. I've already ordered Gaspatch replacements. In the mean time, I get to prime the wings.
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: lone modeller on May 26, 2020, 06:06:26 AM: Just found this and it looks very impressive indeed. I would not worry too much about the IP because I doubt whether anyone will see it!

Stephen.
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: RichieW on May 26, 2020, 06:22:24 AM: Looking good Bill, the instrument panel looks great. With the naked eye I doubt anybody would be able to tell it is isn't 100% authentic, especially if they peering through a small cockpit opening. Your 'woodwork' is fantastic too. Will be following from here.
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: RAGIII on May 26, 2020, 07:39:25 AM: Excellent technique on the wood surfaces! Beautiful results!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: GazzaS on May 27, 2020, 07:12:08 PM: Looking good.... but hate drying time!
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Bill_S on June 12, 2020, 01:52:45 PM: Got the fuselage together without a hitch. Rear elevator required just a wee bit of putty.

(https://i.postimg.cc/bwpkZDqY/DSCN2362-1.jpg)

I ordered HGW Naval lozenge decals; a couple of missteps and I had to strip and start over. Then not enough decal to finish, so I had to order more. >:( The second set sure looked different than the first!

(https://i.postimg.cc/nc8vtS5D/DSCN2363-1.jpg)

I cut a small piece of the new batch and placed it on the wing next to the old one...

(https://i.postimg.cc/bNQ1YHcF/DSCN2364-1.jpg)

A different color to the backing paper - I'm happy now. These HGW decals are super thin...
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: GazzaS on June 12, 2020, 08:59:19 PM: An interesting build, Bill. I've got the W.19 and I haven't even opened it yet. Hopefully I won;t have to replace the lozenge.
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: kensar on June 12, 2020, 10:10:23 PM: Just about made my heart stop showing those two decal sheets. Glad to see it was only the backing paper.

What did you use to wipe the oil paint to achieve the wood grain?
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Bill_S on June 12, 2020, 10:57:15 PM: Quote from: kensar on June 12, 2020, 10:10:23 PM
Just about made my heart stop showing those two decal sheets. Glad to see it was only the backing paper.

What did you use to wipe the oil paint to achieve the wood grain?

Ken, I use a good quality (Q-Tip brand) cotton swab! The off-brand ones shed their fibers.
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: RAGIII on June 12, 2020, 11:24:17 PM: That had to be a Scary Moment with the decals looking so different on the backing. I am glad they turned out to be the same! Looking forward to seeing this one all Hexed Up 8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: RichieW on June 13, 2020, 06:33:36 AM: Keep going, overcoming these hurdles and scares seems to be par for the modelling course. Looming forward to seeing the lozenge done.

Richie
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Bill_S on June 19, 2020, 03:06:18 PM: The lozenge is giving me fits right now. :-[

Getting ready to install the throttle and fuel pump, then it's time to put the upper panels on.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7PCyK4T4/DSCN2369-1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/SQ1w9vZP/DSCN2370-1.jpg)

Some filling and sanding, and she'll be ready for paint!
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: GazzaS on June 19, 2020, 03:47:09 PM: Have you read the WNW hints and tips?

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/hintsandtips (http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/hintsandtips)

Bottom right hand corner is what you may need if you haven't noticed it before.

Keep up the good work, the interior looks great!
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Bill_S on June 19, 2020, 05:12:46 PM: Quote from: GazzaS on June 19, 2020, 03:47:09 PM
Have you read the WNW hints and tips?

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/hintsandtips (http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/hintsandtips)

Bottom right hand corner is what you may need if you haven't noticed it before.

Keep up the good work, the interior looks great!

Thanks, Gaz. Naval lozenge is different; they didn't use rib tapes, and everything has to line up perfectly. Here is a photo from Aviattic...

(https://www.aviattic.co.uk/uploads/4/5/1/3/45139653/img-7495_orig.jpg)
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: RAGIII on June 23, 2020, 12:33:41 AM: The interior is looking Fantastic!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: GazzaS on June 23, 2020, 10:12:21 AM: I have the WNW HB W.19 kit. i don;t mind the naval lozernge, but I wish there were more instances of personal markings available. I find the kit decals a bit boring, and probably done by other modellers a thousand times over. I may devise my own pilot's personal markings, or trade it... haven't decided, yet.

Looking forward to your next update.

Gaz
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Bill_S on July 20, 2020, 02:00:38 PM: It's been a while since my last update. I decided to go with Aviattic lozenge instead of the HGW. The Aviattic comes in a full sheet, not the strips provided by HGW. I cut a paper template of the wing.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1zwgmY5G/DSCN2372-1.jpg)

Then taped the template to the back of the decal sheet...

(https://i.postimg.cc/yxQxQMvH/DSCN2374-1.jpg)

I then cut the decal into manageable sections. The pattern was quite easy to match this way.

(https://i.postimg.cc/JzB0xdXf/DSCN2376-1.jpg)

A test fit of the wing; the tail feathers were done using the same method.

(https://i.postimg.cc/mrfD5NNt/DSCN2398-1.jpg)

Some woodwork in process...

(https://i.postimg.cc/vmrBFg3X/DSCN2396-1.jpg)
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: GazzaS on July 20, 2020, 06:05:53 PM: Coming together nicely, Bill! The decals are going down well.
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Ian from Doncaster on July 20, 2020, 07:00:11 PM: Great technique with the lozenge there - must take quite a bit of patience.!!
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: RAGIII on July 20, 2020, 11:39:44 PM: Nice to see your progress on this one. A great idea using the paper templates to get the Hex pattern decals cut out and lined up. Looks fantastic in place!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: Bill_S on July 21, 2020, 01:22:04 AM: Thanks for the kind comments, folks. I've sealed the edges of the starboard wing. Hopefully trimming it soon!
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: fredjocko on July 25, 2020, 03:35:46 AM: Very nice work! The W.29 is my favorite airplane of WWI. It gives you so many opportunities. I cannot wait to see more.
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: RichieW on July 26, 2020, 03:28:48 AM: This is looking really excellent, I've never applied lozenge decals before. It looks hair raising but you've done it beautifully.
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: fredjocko on August 06, 2020, 11:06:11 PM: Quote from: Bill_S on July 20, 2020, 02:00:38 PM
It's been a while since my last update. I decided to go with Aviattic lozenge instead of the HGW. The Aviattic comes in a full sheet, not the strips provided by HGW. I cut a paper template of the wing.

I then cut the decal into manageable sections. The pattern was quite easy to match this way.

A test fit of the wing; the tail feathers were done using the same method.

That looks easier than my method. I made a copy of the WNW's decals and then cut them out as a template to cut out the lozenge. There was a lot of cutting. This is really looking nice!!
Title: Re: WNW W.29 2512 (Christiansen)
Post by: fredjocko on August 29, 2020, 04:17:39 AM: Quote from: GazzaS on June 23, 2020, 10:12:21 AM
I have the WNW HB W.19 kit. i don;t mind the naval lozernge, but I wish there were more instances of personal markings available. I find the kit decals a bit boring, and probably done by other modellers a thousand times over. I may devise my own pilot's personal markings, or trade it... haven't decided, yet.

Looking forward to your next update.

Gaz

You should try an aircraft from another country that used the W.29. There are some really neat markings and they are really simple. Norway had several aircraft painted dark green and the their markings were red, white, and blue stripes. The numbers can be easily sourced or make a simple mask to paint them.