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Title: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Borsos on March 28, 2020, 09:34:25 AM: Dear all,

I think there are not many words needed. Everybody knows this kit. It’s the old RNAS boxing. I am using some HGW seat belts and PE with it.
(https://abload.de/img/ac57e29d-42c8-44dc-8hrjuw.jpeg)
I prepaired all the maior parts for the cockpit and painted them. This time I used PE stencils from RB-production for the woodgrain and I am quite happy with it.
(https://abload.de/img/c865cb72-4870-4480-bncj1l.jpeg)
It’s a really tiny airplane with a tiny cockpit. The seat is so small that I would have taken it for 1:48 scale if somebody would have shown it to me without context. I used some Uschi van der Rosten Leather decals here over a black and white preshading.
(https://abload.de/img/30a01279-aec4-434a-b6wjxo.jpeg)
I added some 0.2 lead wire around the control lever handle. I wouldn’t do that again, but it looks not bad enough for me to scratchbuild a replacement. I‘ll live with it.
(https://abload.de/img/29bb209a-944a-40e2-asljnq.jpeg)
I rigged these parts before I painted them. I‘ll do this again. No damage on the paint job while handling the parts and the drill bits.... the black on the metal fairings is still missing. I am still not sure if I use the HGW PE parts or If I only paint the kit parts.
(https://abload.de/img/30cf2ca0-42e6-449b-80kkrf.jpeg)
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: RAGIII on March 28, 2020, 10:26:20 AM: As always your start to this build is amazing!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Alexis on March 28, 2020, 11:25:55 AM: Dame , your off to a wonderful start on this :)

Terri
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: gedmundson on March 29, 2020, 12:19:14 AM: Inspiring work, Andreas. Thanks for sharing.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: lone modeller on March 29, 2020, 04:14:22 AM: That is a super start Andreas. Lovely finish to the wood a seat.

The Pup was a small aeroplane, even by the standards of the day. According to C. Lewis and others it was also a delight to fly.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Juan on March 29, 2020, 04:35:11 AM: Looks fantastic Andreas, looking forward to your future updates.
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Bughunter on March 29, 2020, 06:46:53 AM: Great start, Andreas! And every ~~one~~collection needs a Pup :D

Have fun with this project,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: kensar on March 29, 2020, 07:33:12 AM: Looks like a great start, Andreas.
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: RichieW on March 29, 2020, 05:26:30 PM: Fantastic, got one of these in the stash so will follow this build very keenly.
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Borsos on April 01, 2020, 05:27:55 PM: Thank you very much Rick, Terri, Gary, Stepjen, Juan, Frank, Kensar and Richi for your kind words and your interest.
Frank, how true, it was time to add a Pup to the collection!
Richie, I think you won’t regret purchasing one. It’s a great little kit. Nonfitting issues yet and quite a great amount of details.

Meanwhile I finished the interior. I glued the whole affair into the starboard fuselage half for being able to sort out all the many rigging wires. Because the tiny plastic parts can’t stand the tension that would be needed if I rigged with fishing line, I used Uschi van der Rostens flexible line. I rather work with fishing line, but well, they’re in now. I didn’t paint them but left them black, otherwise they wouldn’t be visible so easily once the fuselage is closed. Because there is no firewall covering the back of the fuselage and the seat sits quite low, I added a cross bracing (couldn’t verify it by pictures of the original, but makes sense for me) and covered up the fuselage seam by gluing a piece of colored paper over it. Once more I used the wonderful looking HGW seatbelts. I really like that stuff.

(https://abload.de/img/de24b0b1-00fc-4e40-98ikas.jpeg)

(https://abload.de/img/3a565190-eb99-4df8-9l6k4j.jpeg)

Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: RichieW on April 01, 2020, 05:38:37 PM: Very inspiring Andreas, great idea to cover the centre seam with paper. I will be stealing that one! Going to start either the Pup or the Triplane today, this thread is tipping the balance towards the Pup.
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: PrzemoL on April 01, 2020, 05:44:26 PM: Lovely progress. I am looking with a great interest, as, believe it or not, I have just started working on WNW Pup, too. Though I have the Gnome boxing. I am also ready to rig the section behind the pilot seat, including the bottom face. But I will rig after painting, except that I have already drilled the holes for eyelets and installed them. The turnbuckles will be attached to the predrilled holes after painting, though. Nice to see the idea with the linen-imitating paper at the bottom to cover the seam. I will repeat it here, too. :-)
Keep up with great work!
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Borsos on April 01, 2020, 06:28:49 PM: Thanks Richie and Przemo.
Richie, I also was thinking what to start — the Pup or the Triplane :)

That’s how things are right now. Some seams are still to clean up, especially on the underside. Like usual the fit is very tight on these WNW kits and although I tried to remove all the paint, some small gaps appeared. Obviously I wasn’t careful emough.
(https://abload.de/img/8b5807c1-8861-415f-9elk8i.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/d1aeffd9-c34f-4e8e-9vrkis.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/c348f06f-b996-4b34-9o4kq0.jpeg)
A view into the back of the fuselage. Again, I must admit, how much I hate working with flexible thread. But given the fact that the upper wing will hide most of the view into the back of the fuselage, I am fine with it.
(https://abload.de/img/ec42feeb-8a12-42fd-a9ojbv.jpeg)
Best regards
Borsos
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: bobs_buckles on April 01, 2020, 07:35:06 PM: Inspiring work, Andreas.

I need all the inspiration I can get and you may of just kindled the spark. Cheers!

vB ;)
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: RAGIII on April 01, 2020, 10:53:00 PM: Beautifully painted and detailed interior Andreas! You are really moving along on this one!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: kensar on April 01, 2020, 11:16:51 PM: Sorting out all those control wires was one of the hardest parts to my Pup build. Looks like you've done a great job there.
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: RichieW on April 02, 2020, 04:12:11 AM: Rapid but precise progress, those wood grain masks have worked a treat. This is going to be very special!
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: lone modeller on April 02, 2020, 08:55:00 AM: My goodness Andreas, you are working quickly! However you work is incredibly accurate - and why worry about a slightly slack wire in the depths of the fuselage that a blind man would be happy to see?!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Borsos on April 06, 2020, 07:05:09 AM: Bob, Rick, Ken, Richie and Stephen, Thank you very much for your positive comments!

One thing I dislike with this otherwise very fine kit are the wheels. The wheel hubs are too thick in my opinion and the tyres don‘t look like tyres because there‘s too less space between hub and tyre. I can’t explain it better.
I reworked my wheels by turning them in my dremel tool. Here you still see some imperfections that needed some more filling and sanding. Besides of that I rebuild axle and splint with brassrod.
(https://abload.de/img/300f3562-6ee1-4cbf-9u3j42.jpeg)
Here I am now. I used Mr Hobby‘s „hemp“ for the tyres, the darkest color I ever used for WWI tyres. I love light colored tyres.
(https://abload.de/img/a04d4859-b8ac-4d28-91nk0v.jpeg)
The wheel hubs received a pre-lighening with some light colored pencil strokes
(https://abload.de/img/eab2ef19-e9a1-497b-a9ok67.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/9a819ba5-9156-4d77-bqekm5.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/3ef64161-97ba-48b1-boqk00.jpeg)
Normally I would have spend some more time in the paint shop tonight. Atleast the struts I had wanted to give their first coat of paint today. But I lost my PE wood stencil and have no idea where I put that thing after the last usage. After spending some frustrating time looking all arount my mancave, I tried to order another one from RB production, just to see that it’s shut due the Covid-19 pandemia. Meanwhile I found a Polish mailorder that in fact still has one left and isn’t out of business these days. Lucky me, but now things get slower. At least I am not ‚banned from the Pup‘, like Peter and his Test Tube Babies once sung...
(https://abload.de/img/5f3e3c82-0547-42b4-9yxj1k.jpeg)
Regards,
Andreas
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: RAGIII on April 06, 2020, 07:23:49 AM: Terrific work on the wheels Andreas! Your Cowling, engine and MG are also looking Superb!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: RichieW on April 06, 2020, 07:41:41 AM: Like the light pencil effect on the wheels, will definitely be giving that a try too. I'm always losing things in my man cave too. I spend more time searching than modelling. Surprised you suffer the same affliction, your precise modelling suggests a very orderly way of doing things! :)
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: FAf on April 06, 2020, 04:25:54 PM: Quote from: Borsos on April 06, 2020, 07:05:09 AM
One thing I dislike with this otherwise very fine kit are the wheels. The wheel hubs are too thick in my opinion and the tyres don‘t look like tyres because there‘s too less space between hub and tyre. I can’t explain it better.[...] Besides of that I rebuild axle and splint with brassrod.
(https://abload.de/img/300f3562-6ee1-4cbf-9u3j42.jpeg)

Excellent improvement and just at the right time for me to 'steal' the idea! 😎 If I dare... It looks very petit that hub detail.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Bughunter on April 07, 2020, 06:07:30 AM: Andreas, you made a damn good progress in you home office!
The wheels looks now a bit like the new Gaspatch spoke wheels, but only one spoke visible ;D

One question: No copper on the intake pipes?
This 80hp Le Rhone I have only seen with copper pipes (a search fine also some black painted one in museum).
On the 110hp 9J, where the pipes goes from head to the back, used copper or steel pipes, especially the Oberursel copy, because they were short on copper.
I'm interested if you have another info ...

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Borsos on April 08, 2020, 06:29:41 PM: Thanks a lot Rick, Richie, Fredrik and Frank!

Frank, no secret information, just an unfinished engine. The copper color follows asap :-)
I need to buy a new copper color: I only have an old Revell enamel jar of copper „No 93“, it’s sticky and always when I open it, I remember why I switched to acrylics...
Andreas
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Bughunter on April 08, 2020, 09:58:31 PM: Ah, thank you!
In my smaller scale I'm forced to paint all those parts prior mounting, so I could not expect, that this is possible afterwards ;D

Copper was one of my first Alclad colors (many years ago), but it was unusable recently. The copper particles were oxidized or something similar.
The new bottle is great again.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: kensar on April 08, 2020, 10:06:21 PM: Nice work, Andreas. I like the axle detail. I don't know if you were planning to use the tire lettering decals, but I found they do not exactly match the raised lettering molded in the tire. You may want to sand off the molded letters and apply the decals.
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Jorgo on April 09, 2020, 01:58:11 AM: Excellent work on the details, Andreas! As usual that´s becoming another gem from your bench. As Frank said Alclad copper would be a good choice.

Jörg
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Borsos on April 14, 2020, 09:14:23 AM: Thanks a lot Frank, Ken and Jörg! Alclad is also my brand of choice when it comes to metal colors.

I went on painting the plane. I tried out some shading techinques, but I wanted to keep them subtle over all...
(https://abload.de/img/3826d536-fa64-4fea-a96jdz.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/83164365-b81e-4781-9t9jxe.jpeg)
I‘ve seen now the red overspray just after taking pictures. The wheels are alreday weathered with Watercolor pencils. First time that I tried these out, cool stuff.
(https://abload.de/img/42eb1c96-a80c-4056-bxdj5n.jpeg)
Wood is Uschi van der Rosten decals, it still needs some Oils....
But all in all I love the chocolate color of the PC-12. It‘s Eastern!
(https://abload.de/img/41c75013-8304-49f4-apfj7q.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/18992af2-baa2-4de8-9ggj39.jpeg)
The Prop is real wood, I used some veneer from my stash.
In the end I couldn‘t resist trying out something new. The most annoying part of it was thinning down the cowling from the inside. Otherwise the Rotary wouldn’t be able to rotate freely.
(https://abload.de/img/18b7d003-61a7-42be-bwcjfl.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/154fd8df-15d0-4486-af6jj4.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/9de9da83-60c0-47fe-89tklu.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/f0972856-ab0c-4465-8n9k8a.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/0d6a3bb9-6041-452c-88njq2.jpeg)
When nobody watches I sit next to it and make „Brrrrrrr“ ....
Best regards

Andreas
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Alexis on April 14, 2020, 10:17:17 AM: MOTORIZED ! Now that is cool !

Where did you hide the on/off switch ?

Terri
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: smperry on April 14, 2020, 10:32:41 AM: Andreas
If I'm not told to shush at least once per build, I figure I'm not having any fun.

Beautiful work on the spinning rotary! I really like the colors you got, especially as the shading works just right.

I am fascinated with your wheel axles. How you were able to drill a hole across a tiny tube. How was the tube secured? The effect looks great.

sp
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: RichieW on April 14, 2020, 07:03:08 PM: How lovely is that bonus motorised propeller?😀
Your tonal effects look fantastic too, I could go on, there's so much stunning work here. Loving it!
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Bughunter on April 15, 2020, 01:59:57 AM: Andreas, as always you have done a great paint work, beautiful colors!
In my opinion the dope (in german "Spannlack") should be more glossy ("..glänzt wied' Sau.."), see for example the upper wing in this picture:
(https://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/Swindelle/10716L.jpg)
Source:1000aircraftphotos.com

... but this is also personal style.

With the next pictures I thought, now comes a rotating rotary engine - be there, done that. But with that little electric motor you made my day! ;D How cool is that? 8)
And the battery/switch accessable via a existing maintenance lid?
You should not mount the battery fix, even if is a coin cell. I had lately some cells leaking a bad liquid into my digital measuring slide :(

A great addition, nicely done! You are always good for a surprise!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: PrzemoL on April 15, 2020, 02:05:45 AM: Indeed, a great touch with that motorised engine. And the painting looks cool, too. Yes, the red coloured Betty is one of the finest choices for the Pup.
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Borsos on April 27, 2020, 08:24:34 AM: Terri, Perry, Richie, Frank and Przemo, thank you very much!
Frank, yes, reports say the finish was glossy at the beginning but got more and more dull during flying hours.
Terri, I can remove the engine compartment. There’s just a little bit of plastic, some micro magnets and a small battrey.
(https://abload.de/img/4eaa4d15-ceb5-4995-87hjkk.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/e69591fe-0aa8-4605-axuke7.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/cc675d74-7c32-47e3-9rgjpf.jpeg)
Meanwhile I added the upper wing and finished rigging.
(https://abload.de/img/39f6b711-d5f2-409e-8nuke4.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/5c6a3739-f529-4afa-9eckxg.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/840767ba-43ae-4e57-97ok54.jpeg)
Checking the other Pup threads I realized that I forgot the decals on the struts...
(https://abload.de/img/e0cec61a-2db9-451b-artjl5.jpeg)
(https://abload.de/img/32e94085-b566-42b2-9s3kdi.jpeg)
Meanwhile I painted the figures that I want to add to the base.
Best regards,
Andreas
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Juan on April 27, 2020, 10:07:31 AM: Wow Andreas she looks beautiful (and the spinning engine is Cool). Your figures are something to behold. :D :D
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: RAGIII on April 27, 2020, 11:15:28 AM: Gorgeous figures and the spinning prop and rotary are amazing!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: RichieW on April 27, 2020, 04:45:44 PM: Beautiful work, love the PC12. Is that the MRP version? Figures are stunning, full of life and somehow movement too.
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: kensar on April 27, 2020, 09:29:23 PM: Really nice work, Andreas. The prop looks very good and I like the motorization.
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: FAf on April 27, 2020, 10:10:35 PM: What a beauty! I should really get mine across the finish line.
Never mind the decals on the struts... I'm sure they were worn away on the real thing! ::)
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: jknaus on April 27, 2020, 11:58:42 PM: She's a beaut. Love the electric engine as well, thats really cool.
James
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: jeroen_R90S on April 28, 2020, 02:07:00 AM: That Pup is very, very, nice, but I continue to be amazed by your figures!
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Bughunter on April 28, 2020, 07:21:40 AM: What a nice Pup! Thumbs Up! The figures are also a real gem done by ANDREAS^TM
I really like the mounting with micro magnets, very clever engineering!

The PC12 is so lovely, must do a biplane with that paint soon!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: lone modeller on April 28, 2020, 08:31:02 AM: I have been cought out by the speed that you have built this Andreas! That is a truly stunning build and the figures are something else again. The engine spinning is also novel but very good too and like Frank I really admire the micro-engineering that you have used to install the motor. Another winnr is about to take off from your bench!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: gedmundson on April 29, 2020, 12:03:58 AM: Great work on your model, Andreas - and the spinning prop with the figure holding on to his hat will look very appropriate. Your figures, by the way, look excellent.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Ryan on April 29, 2020, 01:04:35 AM: The spinning motor is ultra cool Andreas.

Ryan
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: kkarlsen on April 29, 2020, 03:02:28 AM: Great show Andreas! Love the 'engine'...

Where is the figure holding his hat from?

Kent
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Alexis on April 29, 2020, 10:21:14 AM: Thanks for the reply Andreas , it is cool ! Nice simple method for mounting it as well . I take it you just super glued this or did you use epoxy . i have micromagnets from a few left over Tamiya builds .

Beautiful job on the Pup , she will set those figures of wonderfully :)

Terri
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: jeroen_R90S on May 05, 2020, 05:06:19 AM: Quote from: FAf on April 06, 2020, 04:25:54 PM
Quote from: Borsos on April 06, 2020, 07:05:09 AM
One thing I dislike with this otherwise very fine kit are the wheels. The wheel hubs are too thick in my opinion and the tyres don‘t look like tyres because there‘s too less space between hub and tyre. I can’t explain it better.[...] Besides of that I rebuild axle and splint with brassrod.
(https://abload.de/img/300f3562-6ee1-4cbf-9u3j42.jpeg)

Excellent improvement and just at the right time for me to 'steal' the idea! 😎 If I dare... It looks very petit that hub detail.
/Fredrik

This set me thinking, the WNW Camel comes with extra wheels (if you build a "late" one) that look remarkably like Pup or Triplane wheels. I just did a small comparison, and they appeae to be the same size and imho look much better than those in the Pup/Triplane kit (they share the same sprue).
However, they do not have that gorgeous axle detail you made :)

Jeroen
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Borsos on May 05, 2020, 08:40:58 AM: Thank you very much gentlemen for your very kind comments. I really appreciate them.

Kent, it’s a Kellerkind resin figure:
(https://www.kellerkind-miniaturen.com/images/product_images/original_images/54069a.jpg)
https://www.kellerkind-miniaturen.com/rnas-offizier.html
They release quite fascinating new figures frome time to time besides of the older, better known ones.

Jeroen, thanks for the hint, I didn’t check my Camel boxes carefully enough to realize the extra wheels.

Best regards,
Andreas
Title: Re: Sopwith Pup N. 6205 „Betty“ RNAS 1:32 WNW
Post by: Borsos on June 05, 2020, 06:50:36 AM: It‘s probabely hard to believe, but I finally finished this here.

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11194.0

Andreas