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Title: Show us your ....engines
Post by: kensar on November 21, 2019, 11:21:13 AM
Let's see that masterpiece of an engine (that may subsequently be covered up inside a cowling)!  Show your engine, particularly aftermarket ones so we can get idea of their appearance and detail level.

I'll start with a few...

First up, a Copper State Models Clerget 9B. 
As seen in the picture below, the Clerget has springs that help close the exhaust valve, which are rarely modeled.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5Nq8F4mB/engine-CSM-clerget-00.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I put a simple one loop spring on a previous model engine but wanted to improve on that.  I made the tool below for that purpose.
(https://i.postimg.cc/vZYfrJPp/engine-CSM-clerget-01.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

First wrap a 0.008" wire around the front of the tool.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Prkmxp1f/engine-CSM-clerget-02.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Wrap the wire around the rod twice to form the spring coils.
(https://i.postimg.cc/4xWtBWqn/engine-CSM-clerget-04.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Slide the rod out from the flat post to free the spring.  Trim the ends.
(https://i.postimg.cc/gchVmqXB/engine-CSM-clerget-06.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Drill holes and glue spring onto engine before carpet monster gets it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VN5tTjPg/engine-CSM-clerget-07.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/vmjndcQs/engine-CSM-clerget-08.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Finished 1/32 CSM Clerget.  Still a bit oily from the last run.
(https://i.postimg.cc/bNT2w6zL/engine-CSM-clerget-09.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/LsrJbwT4/engine-CSM-clerget-10.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Vector 1/32 Gnome Monosaupape 9B 100 hp.  I remade the front of the crankcase in aluminum and added RB Motions bolt and stud parts.
(https://i.postimg.cc/6Q77ztC1/engine-Vector-Gnome-100hp-01.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/kgY6xBRb/engine-Vector-Gnome-100hp-02.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Wingnut Wings 1/32 Gnome Monosaupape 9B 100 hp.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Vkk0rjvw/engine-WNW-Gnome-100hp-01.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/85M7Q4KR/engine-WNW-Gnome-100hp-02.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Post up!
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: Edo on November 21, 2019, 04:02:06 PM
those are really beautiful engines!
and the idea for the spring is super cool! got to use it too!
thank you for sharing!
ciao
edo
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: lcarroll on November 22, 2019, 12:56:27 AM
   That "spring work" is pure magic Ken, nicely done and a technique I've "book marked for future.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 22, 2019, 04:06:56 AM
Thanks for sharing the spring jig, Ken.
Lovely engine you got there. When will you be testing her?  ;)


vB
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: Bughunter on November 22, 2019, 04:13:37 AM
Great idea, Ken - and very nice engines too!
But I suggest to add the scale, to avoid misinterpretations.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: Bughunter on November 22, 2019, 05:53:05 AM
Some aftermarket engines, used in my models. Build by me.


Benz Bz.IV, Copper State Models 1/48
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1nYwnj_jjtW4axUKvsKZmLtjP8pKEJRYM)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1JS86QaZ3TYnJ1TWoB37E4_FWUSofVzQo)

More here: https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10076



Mercedes D.III/D.IIIa, Vector 1/48
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=11S1JyJp8-f1zl4XFHsUvMEGuJ3loNp8s)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1rBe2SWMQGyMoVSU8ZaXvcM0N03_eiJ6K)

More her: https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10502.msg193610#msg193610


Le Rhone 9J 110hp, Small Stuff 1/48
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1kpcTVZv1r4SI7mxqDuYcAmDwBvXU8j2x)


Le Rhone 9C 80hp, Small Stuff 1/48
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oXOOz2cWhV4/Vz8C5H5XRPI/AAAAAAAAGuU/rHkjKMzOilMuaGRVYsCw5amznEWzCoP6gCCo/s1000/engine02.jpg)


Oberursel Ur.II, Small Stuff 1/48
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PeuG7U1JSw4/VrTETz-C1gI/AAAAAAAAGL4/B3EICrfEvjs/s800-Ic42/motor11.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4qgRs4WO9dg/VrTEVa7e6VI/AAAAAAAAGME/dHAJtfKtPfY/s800-Ic42/motor12.jpg)


Gnome 7 Lambda 80hp, Small Stuff 1/48
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B1jvv6k_doLhOFc1dXBiZlMtNUU)

More here: https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=8864.msg162258#msg162258


Gnome Monosoupape 9B-2 100hp, Small Stuff 1/48
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ocGVSVgXeyU/VngkdlrZDMI/AAAAAAAAFrs/RtksC6ynWH4/s800-Ic42/gnome11.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/xjLN-5xdblzVws1JU-kUuvYPiZQM0FZzlV6UhCtc7OhNi5UpKRnn0gqPnHBaFRa39Ia7DJ5pL989buYCVtPOn2xnEg3SnswTRgHtjHXkb86buF8tC03MmeITJk7skyO1SkHsXyEsLYO1HEr5TtRPVVA-NZ0Eoww10PAQ1fdg2qJlHBPHrAkK8NoOmZYl0zpyav1xvzqCKUm9uSJ8Vl7cy4lfNEUA7XjxCZzA3Tt7mu7Cf1hISDhy26ujDtcc5Wx-oUY5torFAWVZZ5rsRVl6u9Y1kOyabr87hjrgS8Pxfji2UMpfm-7UwowhqWG52LucRuHUXhbc2n_PrkkJoBb6QaQmiyoFhGRp2IT2IbOzvdVpV45ftuk9vhhTqJ0SMaUiC8wfnXrifL00Yj1YCU9bXPS8cbN8hhleEhXkXfZLga1iNzwx5JDV2tEMDaPigLhJjcsfVeABhU-DZ-nq0U22Qgc4cNgioGfsR7YA-6KZ5QO1AnEy7EB1R63IfDIughLJHJvja1IMjPn05kgUl8YUxylTXdG4hyBtFkmcDW6iD-e2QPrdP3b_8ktyPVEmnvXzwPohCwWVqg5Nv5tnoTFqJw6L1GXkH9M=w1000-h820-no)


Siemens-Halske Sh.III, Eduard Brassin 1/48
(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=111mG6hDLo0kFTAQ4slLqJt5h3qkuLQDG)

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=1ZnxgD1k00Ah92pxrsiETOX7W1c52Nz8w)


Austro-Daimler Aeroplan engine 120 h.p., Wiener Modellbau Manufaktur 1/16
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_qOcNiaEia5I6I9bQeIwu-2vlcSfoZAeE6nlZGJjim5K3yNPKc60sEMsmLk2SepmE5yXJqO51MhkRnQT3wSmrrjweU2PVQ9KvFVHBg-jBeeaw0ebcXUdOzNCslU9APzL7ETIj7olwBdA0BbRRa7snwJckoUhvCiF0Atd_YBV905z6WtZZ87IMBmQnmV9cmTLA8A4zCFbGOEAbRgXhpTA50bDh5kc1LBAA9iTOgNA2G6oRgRpaoV3zR2FoEJhbMC1LYKtXEkQZ6zhteAd-nY_DR5Ve79dcncdjs9SSQxPh_w4hkANGpzxSOuFVhdEXP-jitCWwwHta-iCMgNJIm-GycnDQoXLWsjZTepGWAnpBrkYUjQU6LKN2ZXkHYUl_ayuTMbuucEvLUBlDa6pf8sYYU7EM7HgfdRjW1tXXWMCuPp_N6h0umPA5o22ynT4wK2Ezg06FlA-b-5t59-owsyL-48W_M1BYVlFL1zGgAFUtbUAGMmFkhNy4oJ2BAiWDmEqxitz5p-giirAltv7miwJUAw3CFlu8Rq6Gj_Sqaf1HZn5oj2Whau4jcl7ZE6Dc4OaIlPSoUESkpI0MoM1Ezfm1Mr7hWY-JNHyTdJ2TT_LWXR5MtHVidVa=w1024-h768-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4S5DstJqe0rNGKv1O6qC8y1oiMWJfdE3Rbf5UV68tB5SpwZbo8AMw6PDETX9WkVoEXyJaBlJ1aK18WCn-0RdyschqDvPBJMXMNR8Y-d3zBEGB30AyZ_avYGMkPE4sxVspT0QZrDh-t6vdmeMQ25N3Zz86cBM69p8SUJpimPMDB7G2ZwPq0ywS-NXwl_BqH3HYd2l6StO4X58GY-d_T3ZQ-mzUa7FNd-cSDz5SoWCdGJ_i9uh5RwZ8PiMSdUeo3IOYWmu93iV_mnLVE4eZCHG2dsOD5LdMuho_teFnwjFD-kt3gSB4ZpjNK2sT42L-bOMrjASjGEGPLklCXIL48SqdCwbbqXK8DkBbA9vscC07QsUQWyPUU9kKhUOC7-7WqzGyRHvUllFmvURqC0yQ1mU6lgzj9LFOYIu9ea3LGFRSAl_MJbnhgTekes4WgB9AGqVg6Zyipz_iX6x3R6aKS87ypVqVBeCgmI76oVNuUAgQ1egCFybwpt7vhLmswnSyCpa2kSBM5jQ7hIoKv1l5u-YGGozH2H0lWQ1VyZRpoG3D9dMn7ngFHEN8AzS_XzNpcZKMEbKa44FS56d0Jm3WMgYyC8vS4qBRfzxe6BP2CbgQeB2SmZgyAxk=w1024-h767-no)

More here: https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=8568


Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: kensar on November 22, 2019, 06:25:01 AM
Nice collection of engines, Frank.  And good photography.
I did add the scale to the captions on my pictures - good suggestion.

What type of paint do you use for detailing and washes?
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: eclarson on November 22, 2019, 10:37:50 AM
Here's the 160hp Daimler-Mercedes D.III engine for my Wingnut Roland C.II.  1/32 of course.  Upgrades include Taurus spark plugs and timing gear set.  Ignition wiring and additional details added from copper wire.

(https://i.imgur.com/MMoTREc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/J9yhHxF.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ZXboWdR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/F0vyuWn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xJBsa1m.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/G0lQ1sg.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: eclarson on November 22, 2019, 10:43:27 AM
120hp Argus As.II for my Wingnut 1/32 Jeannin Stahltaube.

(https://i.imgur.com/ffXMr91.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/mjQsoRR.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/C4h4Vu9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Bh1kyXl.jpg)

Eric
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: Manni on November 22, 2019, 05:06:15 PM
My abandoned Benz BZ.III 150hp:

(https://i.ibb.co/CmmYWzY/21.jpg) (https://ibb.co/jbbQHTQ)

(https://i.ibb.co/mTvTkpR/22.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NC1C5RF)

The Breadmore Engine

(https://i.ibb.co/k5YChdC/7.jpg) (https://ibb.co/rFnrZWr)

(https://i.ibb.co/FwQh8j8/8.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3NxTSLS)

(https://i.ibb.co/6g7kys1/9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Ch3fw0M)

Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: Bughunter on November 22, 2019, 05:54:55 PM
What type of paint do you use for detailing and washes?
The engines are painted with Alclad, I use this also sometimes to (not air!)brush small details, otherwise acryl paints. For washes I use oil paints thinned with lighter fuel.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: kensar on November 22, 2019, 10:38:12 PM
Thanks Frank.

Great looking engines, Guys.
Eric - The Taurus valve drivetrain really sets the engine off.
Manni - The neglected Benz sure looks real!  You've got the weathering figured out.
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: gbrivio on November 23, 2019, 02:54:16 PM
Breathtaking engines, congratulations to all of you.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: Europapete on April 27, 2020, 10:17:22 AM
Hi all, this is the Taurus 1/32 100hp Mono I made for my WNW DH2.(https://i.imgur.com/cmEsTLh.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/98usvn5.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Ip0zWOE.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/j4p61nv.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: eclarson on April 27, 2020, 11:48:59 PM
400hp Liberty V12 for Wingnut DH.9a Post-War "Ninak"  Added wiring and priming taps, the latter made from brass tubing and wire.

(https://i.imgur.com/hmufgvG.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VHtklzr.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YptJb1V.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gOXK61f.jpg)

Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: kensar on April 28, 2020, 12:30:33 AM
Thanks for posting in here, Eric and Pete.
Very nice looking engines.
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: PrzemoL on June 05, 2020, 05:30:59 PM
Rolls Royce Eagle
(https://i.ibb.co/yn8Hw6F/felf2-44.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/hXH7P5r/felf2-43.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/sPjppZd/felf2-46.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/phcPnD7/felf2-45.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/kStt3pB/felf2-47.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/89B9wN6/felf2-48.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/WG5sxXG/felf2-49.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/k8WvJzf/felf2-50.jpg)

Gnome Monosoupape 100HP
(https://i.ibb.co/JBd9NCz/20200413-124435.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/MM9YCJX/20200413-124459.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/s24mSQM/20200414-225600.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/gWFc40w/20200414-225539.jpg)

Rolls Royce Falcon
(https://i.ibb.co/jbW360Z/biff2108.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vxZLsxc/biff2110.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/fN2wT5g/biff2112.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/VBtVj3r/biff2113.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/1MjpfJw/biff2115.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/d5Smrcs/biff2119.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/3RyHsMN/biff2-03.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/QCcPyLx/biff2-18.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: lcarroll on June 05, 2020, 11:32:07 PM
   There's some really spectacular detail in these engines Prze, I particularly like the Rolls Royce Falcon. The wiring components are beautifully represented and the detail is exceptional, just lovely work!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: Bughunter on June 06, 2020, 11:19:44 PM
Wow, simply Wow! PrzemoL, your engines are fantastic! Nicely build and painted. Your take a good advantage of the big scale.
The great WNW kits in a hand of such a master - great results! I hope you have enough kits in the stash for the next years.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: RAGIII on June 10, 2020, 05:19:27 AM
My Amigo Ed Boll has asked Me to Post these photos of his 1/28th scale scratch built engine which will go in his Fokker DVII. I am sure he will fill in the details:
RAGIII


(https://i.postimg.cc/66fQLXcH/thumbnail-28th-MB-180-hp-4.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/8PyP9mqM/thumbnail-28th-MB-180-hp-3.jpg)



(https://i.postimg.cc/656pMm1B/thumbnail-28th-MB-180-hp-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: Radarman on June 10, 2020, 05:21:41 AM
That's a nice one. Thanks for posting it, RAGIII, and pass on my complements.

                                                                                                         Kevin
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: kensar on August 21, 2020, 03:03:02 AM
Got a new one.

1/32 Taurus Oberursel U.0 converted into a Gnome Lambda.  A simple conversion - remove six bolts from one front plate and put two on the other front plate.

Lukaz is working on a new Gnome Lambda right now, but I couldn't wait!

This engine has some extremely fragile and extremely small parts.  I could not make all the wire springs on the back of the cylinder head properly, but hopefully the rest of the eye candy will divert attention!?

(https://i.postimg.cc/HsxCqpSS/Avro504-07.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/vTPw4jmL/Avro504-06.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/BZN078CL/Avro504-05.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)



Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: PrzemoL on August 21, 2020, 05:15:25 AM
Great work on the great kit. Eyecandy indeed!
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: kensar on August 21, 2020, 09:50:08 PM
Thanks, PrzemoL.  You've got some very nice engines here yourself.  I like the placards you have used.
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: Bughunter on August 22, 2020, 09:24:28 PM
Very nice Ken, looks like a big Small Stuff :D

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: macsporran on August 22, 2020, 10:24:59 PM
Just caught up on these. What a superb collection of engines. Respect guys.
I'm working on the engine of an Alb D.III at present and I keep test fitting to see what will be hidden and therefore not need detailing! How can you bear to hide so much of these masterpieces away from sight?
Aspirational stuff.
Sandy
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: PrzemoL on August 22, 2020, 10:57:47 PM
Just caught up on these. What a superb collection of engines. Respect guys.
I'm working on the engine of an Alb D.III at present and I keep test fitting to see what will be hidden and therefore not need detailing! How can you bear to hide so much of these masterpieces away from sight?
Aspirational stuff.
Sandy

Hi. As for me I tend to expose the detailed engines as much as possible. As you can see above RR Falcon is completely open in my Biff, RR Eagles in Felixstowe have no cowlings by definition, my three Taurus rotaries are not covered either - Monosoupape naturally in DH.2 whereas Bentley in Snipe and Clerget in Camel have the cowlings removed. I do not put the metal cowlings on German inline engines, either. Some years ago I have built my only WNW Albatros D.V and the engine over the wooden bearers is completely visible - there are lots of details to be added there, usually omitted in the built Albies - fuel installation, controls for carburetters and spark advance on magnetos... 😉
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: kensar on August 23, 2020, 01:45:16 AM
One reason for starting this thread was to be able to see engine details before hiding them away under a cowling, and to see what some of the after-market engines look like.

Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: kensar on June 18, 2021, 08:56:02 AM
Posting another 1/32 Vector Gnome Monosaupape 9, finished differently from my previous one.  This one is 'OOB'.

(https://i.postimg.cc/6qT0pZnc/Vector-Gnome-9-02.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/hjDsN6GH/Vector-Gnome-9-04.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Alclad paint was used on this one, giving a smoother finish.  Weathered with pastel chalks.  Pushrods are 0.020" steel wire.
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: kensar on June 18, 2021, 10:18:33 AM
So, I had this leftover Roden Oberursel Ur.ii from the Jacobs triplane build and thought I would dress it up some to see what I could do with it.  The front and back half of the engine did not exactly matchup, but I pressed on anyway.  This one will have the silver colored intake pipes instead of the copper ones.

I discovered the molded crankcase is not exactly correct for either an Oberursel or a Le Rhone.  The Oberursel has what looks like a replaceable prop shaft on the front that is bolted on and the Le Rhone has no bolts around the prop shaft.

(https://i.postimg.cc/43tjXDsy/roden-oberursel-01.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I made a ring on the lathe and attached some simulated photoetched bolts on the ring and on the outer edges of the crankcase.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tTjwJB45/roden-oberursel-03.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Then, turning to the back, I replaced the pushrods with steel wire and added a PE part to the valve actuator arm, to depict the open ball bearing there.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hv4YbhxQ/roden-oberursel-10.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Then started painting with a black base, which didn't seem necessary later, and sprayed with Alclad aluminum with a touch of pale gold.  Then weathered with a dark wash and pastels.

(https://i.postimg.cc/vTPNPMLq/roden-oberursel-11.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/rF3hzfhr/roden-oberursel-22.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Fs7W9Mxv/roden-oberursel-23.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/3wHnFdQr/roden-oberursel-24.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qvK1K2YZ/roden-oberursel-25.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I think it turned out well, almost as good as a good aftermarket resin piece.

Now, to find something to put this into...




Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: Edo on June 18, 2021, 03:44:48 PM
yes it did turned out very well, actually!
i love the intake colour

ciao
edo
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: Brad Cancian on July 29, 2022, 06:42:35 PM
Revitalising this one - my 1/48 Small Stuff Oberursal UR.III twin row rotary. This one was 80+ pieces....  :o

(https://i.imgur.com/chPbWdJ.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/4IpePey.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/0sprP9N.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/qG46dlR.jpg)

Cheers,

BC
Title: Re: Show us your ....engines
Post by: KiwiZac on July 30, 2022, 08:50:12 AM
Having had the good fortune to experience a variety of rotaries in action I would love to hear one of these in person! Gorgeous work Brad!!