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Title: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Softscience on November 14, 2019, 01:31:19 PM
Hello all,

This is my second attempted at a Wingnut Wings kit. The first one ended in frustration and went back in its box to think about the bad things it did! ;D

This time I'm taking a different approach and relying more.on old techniques which may.no longer be en Vogue, but with which I'm more comfortable.

I started by painting up the cylinders of the Bentley BR1 engine. Just Vallejo metallics and some black and brown oils here. Nothing fancy.

(https://i.postimg.cc/RFGtg5L3/IMG-20191113-221506000-HDR.jpg)

Since the silver was out, I also assembled and painted a few of the aluminum thingy-ma-whatsits that go in the cockpit.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: AlbertD on November 14, 2019, 02:44:27 PM
So far so good. I did the same thing with my first Wingnuts kit. I put it back in the box until I had more experience. The second one went much better and now I'm on the third  and it's going even better. What was your first? Mine was the Sopwith Dolphin.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Softscience on November 14, 2019, 03:13:15 PM
So far so good. I did the same thing with my first Wingnuts kit. I put it back in the box until I had more experience. The second one went much better and now I'm on the third  and it's going even better. What was your first? Mine was the Sopwith Dolphin.
Mine was an Albatross D.V. It was going fine until it came time to rig. Then it went from fine to popped lines, to cracked b struts and glue smeared paint. A real mess.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: AlbertD on November 14, 2019, 03:23:51 PM
So far so good. I did the same thing with my first Wingnuts kit. I put it back in the box until I had more experience. The second one went much better and now I'm on the third  and it's going even better. What was your first? Mine was the Sopwith Dolphin.
Mine was an Albatross D.V. It was going fine until it came time to rig. Then it went from fine to popped lines, to cracked b struts and glue smeared paint. A real mess.
The biggest lesson I'm learning is to plan ahead at least a couple of steps.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Ryan on November 14, 2019, 11:09:39 PM
Hello all,

This is my second attempted at a Wingnut Wings kit. The first one ended in frustration and went back in its box to think about the bad things it did! ;D

This time I'm taking a different approach and relying more.on old techniques which may.no longer be en Vogue, but with which I'm more comfortable.

I started by painting up the cylinders of the Bentley BR1 engine. Just Vallejo metallics and some black and brown oils here. Nothing fancy.

(https://i.postimg.cc/RFGtg5L3/IMG-20191113-221506000-HDR.jpg)

Since the silver was out, I also assembled and painted a few of the aluminum thingy-ma-whatsits that go in the cockpit.

Ye olde techniques are thy best techniques....back to basics, love it.

Glad to see you are back on the horse Soft.

Ryan
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: RAGIII on November 14, 2019, 11:33:31 PM
Nice start on the engine. Looks great!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: lone modeller on November 15, 2019, 03:25:23 AM
I wholly agree with Ryan Ralph - the old techniques are the best. Well they are at least as far as I am concerned. It is wonderful to see you having another go at a WNW kit because I am sure that this time you will complete it successfully and have a model to be proud of.

Stephen.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Alexis on November 15, 2019, 11:08:56 AM
Following along on your adventure  :)



Terri
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Softscience on November 18, 2019, 06:46:54 AM
It's been a slow few days at the bench. I managed to paint a simulated wood finish on some of the cockpit framing parts. It doesnt look like much right now, but once the details get painted, it should be more interesting.

I also finished the engine. I'm really not good at painting engines. I don't even know what Im doing wrong, so I'm wide open for advice.

(https://i.postimg.cc/t4VQNkqj/IMG-20191117-120309310-HDR.jpg)
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Softscience on November 18, 2019, 01:57:46 PM
I'll be honest; I'm not at all happy with how the camel parts are turning out. I don't think I was in the right mindset when I started it. I'm going to strip the paint and do over. Maybe not right away though. My heart isn't really in it for now.

As a matter of fact I've been distracted by something smaller and more manageable. New thread coming right up.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: AlbertD on November 18, 2019, 04:00:28 PM
I'll be honest; I'm not at all happy with how the camel parts are turning out. I don't think I was in the right mindset when I started it. I'm going to strip the paint and do over. Maybe not right away though. My heart isn't really in it for now.

As a matter of fact I've been distracted by something smaller and more manageable. New thread coming right up.
If your not feeling it set it aside until your more into it or you'll get frustrated.

What method did you use for the wood? I did my first interior wood effect with oils over a light tan acrylic and it turned out pretty decent, especially for the interior. I just did the grain with a torn piece of soft foam and brushed it until it looked good. Then I let it dry and sprayed it with some thinned clear yellow and clear orange mix. I used Uschi van der Rosten Blitz Dry for the oils and it was dry in just a few hours.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: kensar on November 18, 2019, 11:52:55 PM
If you are not happy with it, put it aside for now.  There's no deadline to complete it.
I saw your other build thread.  I think it will be a good build experience before coming back to this one.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: RAGIII on November 20, 2019, 05:04:59 AM
If you are not happy with it, put it aside for now.  There's no deadline to complete it.
I saw your other build thread.  I think it will be a good build experience before coming back to this one.

Ken is absolutely correct! On the other hand I think the wood interior looks fine  ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Softscience on November 20, 2019, 02:31:28 PM
I started stripping the paint today. The nice thing about Model Color is that it comes off if you even look at it funny.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Softscience on November 21, 2019, 01:22:29 PM
Take two on the camel's woodwork.

I took the advice of ww1aircraftmodels forum denizen Ryan, and passed on the woodgrain effects. Instead I sprayed some Tamiya dark yellow mixed with a few drops of orange, and then applied a coat of Vallejo clear orange. Obviously I haven't painted most of the details yet, but I'm much happier with how these look now. Thanks, Ryan!

 For the blackened metal brackets (japaned or galvanized?) I'll use a mix of Vallejo black and Ammo gunmetal, like I did for the rudder bar details seen below. The engine still looks meh, but it's good enough for now.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nc21gMLF/IMG-20191120-220727435.jpg)
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Alexis on November 21, 2019, 01:28:34 PM
Nothing wrong with that all , looks great from my end and it does have a wood effect , well done  :)


Terri
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: AlbertD on November 21, 2019, 02:04:12 PM
That does look nice. The color is perfect. As far as the engine goes a black or whatever dark color wash will make the detail pop. It looks fine.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: RAGIII on November 22, 2019, 12:03:31 AM
Looks Great! The Most important thing is you are happy with the results!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Ryan on November 22, 2019, 12:28:08 AM
Looks Great! The Most important thing is you are happy with the results!
RAGIII

Words live by.

Ryan
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Softscience on November 24, 2019, 01:00:00 PM
Thanks, guys. A bit more camel progress.

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0PtRtKk/IMG-20191123-141649702-HDR.jpg)
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: gbrivio on November 24, 2019, 05:04:12 PM
I like both wood renderings you made, different shades but we all know real wood can range widely through the colour palette and your engine as well. And I have in turn  my first WNW kit halfway in its box and my second idling on a really messy bench, waiting maybe for better times: they will be completed someday... Have fun with your build, following.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: AlbertD on November 24, 2019, 05:34:47 PM
Looking really good.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: RAGIII on November 24, 2019, 11:56:12 PM
Your detail painting looks clean and neat and the bracing wires are excellent! Terrific progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Softscience on November 25, 2019, 01:21:34 PM
Thanks, gents.


Things are beginning to take shape now. I had a lot of fun with the instrument panel. Seat is together but I need to get the belts on. I'm not a fan of PE belts. Will start playing around with it soon.

(https://i.postimg.cc/KjDtb6J6/IMG-20191124-212220885-HDR.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/66rrCZtM/IMG-20191124-213507008-HDR.jpg)
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Juan on November 25, 2019, 07:47:00 PM
Looking good, coming together quite nicely.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: RLWP on November 25, 2019, 08:02:54 PM
I started stripping the paint today. The nice thing about Model Color is that it comes off if you even look at it funny.

You know, that's a really big step in modelling - knowing when to bail out and find another way.

Richard
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: kensar on November 26, 2019, 12:59:43 AM
I'm not so sure wood graining is necessary on small surfaces inside of the fuse (framing parts).  It does look good on larger wooden surfaces on the exterior, though.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: FAf on November 26, 2019, 01:48:31 AM
Looking good so far! Nice clean modelling!
Fredrik
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: RAGIII on November 26, 2019, 05:49:24 AM
Continuing to look great, especially the IP!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: lone modeller on November 26, 2019, 07:05:01 AM
That is coming on really nicely. It seems that you have got over the "hump" and are now making much better progress. The IP looks first class from here.

Stephen.
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Alexis on November 26, 2019, 11:13:27 AM
Moving along very well , she is blending together wonderful . Keep up the excellent work  :)



Terri
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Softscience on November 26, 2019, 01:48:37 PM
Moving along very well , she is blending together wonderful . Keep up the excellent work  :)



Terri

Thanks, Terri. And thanks for making my thread go to page 3. I think that might be a build thread record for me. Usually I, or the audience loose interest long before things get this far. :D :D :D
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: RAGIII on November 26, 2019, 11:37:45 PM
Moving along very well , she is blending together wonderful . Keep up the excellent work  :)



Terri

Thanks, Terri. And thanks for making my thread go to page 3. I think that might be a build thread record for me. Usually I, or the audience loose interest long before things get this far. :D :D :D

No losing interest from Me. In fact I think you have inspired My Next WW1 build!
RAGIII
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: FAf on November 27, 2019, 12:48:30 AM
I can help in bringing this thread towards page four... Obviously it's more fun if you show us more pictures of a progressing build! 😀
/Fredrik
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Softscience on November 29, 2019, 02:29:43 PM
I can help in bringing this thread towards page four... Obviously it's more fun if you show us more pictures of a progressing build! 😀
/Fredrik

I'm happy to oblige, Fredrik  ;D

We're at the beginning of a 4-day holiday in the US today. Since I couldn't travel to see family, I got A LOT of modeling done. All of it Great War related.

Here is the camel work.

The seat, and its belts. Which turned out okay after a bit of annealing with a lighter.

(https://i.postimg.cc/jqppJty0/IMG-20191126-215707038-HDR.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/jqppJty0/IMG-20191126-215707038-HDR.jpg)

and all together now. Test fitted into the fuselage. Fit is fine but not as smooth as I anticipated it to be.

(https://i.postimg.cc/WpqR3hFw/IMG-20191128-165933932.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fyGBtzPH/IMG-20191128-165948176.jpg)
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Robin on November 29, 2019, 07:59:28 PM
Nice pit!

Robin  :)
Title: Re: WNW Ship's Camel
Post by: Ryan on November 30, 2019, 01:17:48 AM
Looking spiffy