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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Robin on October 29, 2019, 07:14:59 AM

Title: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48 (finished)
Post by: Robin on October 29, 2019, 07:14:59 AM
While waiting for the rigging line for my Albi D.II, I made up my mind about what's next on the bench.
Very low stock of eyelets and tubes right now and since I get frowned upon for overspending by "she who is in charge"  ::)

(https://i.postimg.cc/zBjxFg4D/IMG-3509.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

The 1/48 Eduard D.VII (OAW) from the pile I have....for years now. I have just enough eyelets and tubes for this. :)

Scheme I like most...

(https://i.postimg.cc/XqYQHv0f/IMG-3511.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Rudolf Stark's D.VII "Li" with the eyecatching lilac parts. With the WNW Halberstadt in mind...the cookie-cut lozenge will be good practise.
I heard people don't like the Eduard lozenge, so I expected the worst, but okey...not great...I expected worse.
Maybe I'll use them...maybe I use the MicroSculpt ones I have instead. Undecided.

(https://i.postimg.cc/8zTkcQD2/IMG-3513.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

The Eduard 4 colour lozenge...dunno  :-\

First I did...mix paint for the lilac!

Eduard shows a more pink shade, while WNW (Ronnie Bar) has a more purple/mauve shade. I like both.


(https://i.postimg.cc/4dZ8c5LF/IMG-3512.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Work in progress....but getting close to what I want.  8)

More soon,

Robin
 



Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: AndRoby67 on October 29, 2019, 07:41:35 AM
Hi Robin,
good choice, the Stark's D.VII is really beautiful. So, this is the original one, shade of lilac?

(https://www.modellismopiu.net/m+gallerie/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=1348366)

I don't think that it was on the pink side.
Hope useful,
Roberto
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on October 29, 2019, 07:51:22 AM
Thanks a lot.....interesting photo.

Robin  :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on October 29, 2019, 08:17:36 AM
I think, there are also colorful rendering of this machine in (I own that book):
"Fokker D. VII. - the Lethal Weapon (Legends of Aviation 3d, Band 2)"
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51ch03FEjWL.jpg)
Source: amazon.com

or on title of this Kagero:
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91C-qgn4dSL.jpg)
Source: amazon.com

Great choice, I think I own also a Profipack allowing this markings. But before I wat to build the "Sieben Schwaben" ;)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on October 29, 2019, 09:48:25 AM
Looking forward to your build Robin



Terri
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Manni on October 29, 2019, 03:36:46 PM
Cool choice, Robin.
Looking forward your next steps.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on October 29, 2019, 06:49:12 PM
Thanks for the interest in this build....no pressure.  ;D

I just did a daylight comparison between the Eduard and MicroSculpt (4 colour) lozenge.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9fcnZ5BZ/IMG-3516.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/K8PW1vtm/IMG-3515.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

And the winner is...drum roll....MicroSculpt. :)
Perhaps other brands are even nicer, but this is what I have and I think it's fine, so I'll use it.

And more lilac samples....

(https://i.postimg.cc/9f1NB8xS/IMG-3518.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Top: AK WWI German Lilac with some white added.
Bottom: My own mixture...about the same....slightly cooler.
Both perhaps still a bit too dark, but good base colours. I'll highlight with increasingly lighter shades anyway.

The OAW Lilac seems to be more grey and/or blue. Need that also, so will cook up a colour for that also.  :)

Today I'll finish the last couple of Albi D.II parts...backside prop and tail skid, so I don't have to feel guilty starting this one.

Robin  :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: coyotemagic on October 30, 2019, 05:53:28 AM
Excellent choices all 'round, Robin!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on October 30, 2019, 06:12:00 AM
I'll highlight with increasingly lighter shades anyway.
Oh, want to see (and learn from) that paint job!

The OAW Lilac seems to be more grey and/or blue. Need that also, so will cook up a colour for that also.  :)
Two lilac on one Fokker? Will be interesting!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on October 30, 2019, 06:39:00 AM
Thanks Bud, thanks Frank. :)

Started the build!

(https://i.postimg.cc/j223QcTR/IMG-3525.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Ow....those details must go....for now. :-\

(https://i.postimg.cc/C1m6qtWv/IMG-3527.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

That's better!
The tube frame and internal rigging will be back up soon, but first this....

(https://i.postimg.cc/tgdcX7DG/IMG-3530.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Lozenge!  :)
Weird, I'm a succer for lozenge. I adore this "camo" for about 50 years and this is the first I ever applied.

And then I'm forced to this with it....how cruel is that?....

(https://i.postimg.cc/50xRj1kY/IMG-3533.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Lightly airbrushed with a sand colour....it's the inside. Cruel :(

My time will come....soon.  8)

Robin





Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on October 31, 2019, 11:12:43 AM
Worked on it from early morning to well after midnight and had high hopes to do most of the interior, but...this is all I can show.

(https://i.postimg.cc/k4ghr5gq/IMG-3536.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

It was a bit of a struggle. :-\

More soon,

Robin  :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on October 31, 2019, 11:19:38 AM
I have modelling session like that , your not alone ...I feel your pain  ;)



terri
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: RLWP on October 31, 2019, 11:33:55 PM
We all do. What you have done looks very good

And if you aren't enjoying your modelling, stop! You can always come back to it

Richard
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: FAf on October 31, 2019, 11:49:40 PM
It looks nice, Robin! The faded lozenge, is that to simulate lozenge pattern shining through on the inside?
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 01, 2019, 07:43:56 AM
Thanks milady, thanks guys. :)

No worries, I have a lot of fun while learning.

Fredrik, (I think) the lozenge was printed on the fabric...leaving a lighter faded impression on the inside of the fabric.
My knowledge is limited, so I copy what I see elsewhere. :-[

(https://i.postimg.cc/L61vkxRR/IMG-3544.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Trial and error....
Tried to do the internal rigging with the Uschi Fine Line, but again...not my thing. Out of the window with it!
Switched to 0,1 mm Albion Alloys nickel silver wire instead...after one strand...way too shiny, so ripped off again and blackened the wire.
Finally happy, but some damage done...so be it. Luckily most won't be visible.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3r6nDPsn/IMG-3542.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Painted the ammo belts.

(https://i.postimg.cc/JzCxpj4X/IMG-3546.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Made the double throttle handle on the control stick.
Also did all the woodwork with oils...floor, instrument panel and several handles.

Since I have to wait for this to dry...perhaps I can do the wings now...Lozenge party!  8)

More soon.

Robin :)






Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on November 01, 2019, 08:51:57 PM
Outstanding work on the interior! I Love the faded lozenge and the leather on the seat!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: kensar on November 01, 2019, 09:37:56 PM
As Rick said, outstanding work on the interior!

As far as trial and error goes, if you aren't making mistakes, you aren't learning anything.

What did you use for blackening the Albion wire? A JAX product?
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 01, 2019, 10:11:46 PM
Thanks Rick and Ken,

Brushpainted the leather. First a base of Vallejo Saddle Brown 70.940.
After that 5 thin layers (3 on the cushion) of Vallejo Air (brush painted) Mahogany 71.036.
Since this is airbrush paint it's very translucent when brushed on.
First couple of layers look horrid, but slowly building up the layers result in a nice dark red brown leather finish.

Blackening the nickel silver wire was done with Artidee "pewter figures patina - gray".
It's the same blue patina liquid you find from many model brands...but much cheaper. :)

Now preparing the wings for the lozenge decals.

More soon,

Robin :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 04, 2019, 12:40:50 AM
And here we go!

Doing lozenge and rib tapes was on my bucket list for decades...better late then never.  ::)

(https://i.postimg.cc/4yGrqjNp/IMG-3554.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

After working on it for at about 14 hours....

(https://i.postimg.cc/v8LRf83h/IMG-3558.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I don't think I ever spend so much time applying decals on a kit...let alone a top wing. :o

The Eduard manual has lilac stripes on the top wing...WNW...white.
Maybe it's unknown, but I go for white.

I'll varnish and do the stripes before I continue with the underside.
Afraid to damage what I've done so far.

(https://i.postimg.cc/gjKfW4nQ/IMG-3559.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

The "OAW lilac". Used next to dark green on the undercarriage, wheels and engine covers.
As per WNW Ronnie Bar artwork. A greyish lilac / mauve.

More soon,

Robin  :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 04, 2019, 07:55:53 AM
Scary moments...painting the white stripes

(https://i.postimg.cc/3NzTBG8W/IMG-3561.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Before masking...varnished twice with semi-gloss and stuck the masking tape to the palm of my hand several times before gently putting it on.
I was very afraid to see all my work sticking to a piece of masking tape when done....or paint underneath the tape because of poor adhesion.
Luckily it went well....only lost a tiny bit of rib tape. That was easy to replace.

Thank goodness I have decals for the black stripes on the bottom of the lower wing, but the lilac on the fuselage?  :-X

More soon,

Robin

Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on November 04, 2019, 08:15:59 AM
The result of your lozenge party looks good!
Yes, I hate masking on decals too, and I'm doing shadows on the ribs on to of my decals ::)
Your lozenge looks opaque - that is the advantage of Aviattic lozenge, it is possible to shade prior decaling on bright (white or a bit darker) and put this shine-through decals after that.

Are ther some lilac parts on your decal sheet or only white/black and you can airbrush it completely?

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 04, 2019, 08:30:25 AM
Thanks Frank,

These are Microsculpt lozenge decals, hardly opaque.
That's not an issue with this build. I'm pleased with how the lozenge looks.
Perhaps I do some light post-shading, but might as well leave it as it is.

Masking on top of decals on the other hand....yikes!
I have to do the lilac fuselage band and rear of the fuselage underneath the tail. No decals included (I don't like the "Eduard Pink" anyway).
The engine covers I can do before I apply the lozenge.

I suppose I just have to mask it very carefully....like I did with the white stripes on the wing.

Robin :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: RLWP on November 04, 2019, 08:34:18 AM
I have just finished Rudolf Stark's 'Wings of War', so I'm interested to see how this build goes

So far, it's very good indeed!

Richard
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 04, 2019, 08:56:12 AM
Thanks Richard,

I think it's a good kit with nice details.
Very nice to have two fuselages....with different engine covers. (adjusted according to the WNW manual)
On the PE sheet there some nice extra's not even mentioned in the manual. The triangular hatches that go next to the engine cover.
Also the round inspection hatches. Both handy, because you can apply them after the lozenge.

What's missing: the engine cover that should cover the exhaust. Pretty annoying...not easy to scratch build myself.  :-\

Furthermore....lovely kit.

Robin :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 04, 2019, 08:07:14 PM
Bucket list item well and truly ticked!
You have hit the ground running with lozenge application.  :o

Well done!
von B
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on November 04, 2019, 11:28:24 PM
Your lozenge and chevron really look terrific! Looking forward to your progress!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 06, 2019, 04:01:40 AM
Thanks guys,

After 20 more hours behind my work bench...

(https://i.postimg.cc/MphwchH8/IMG-3567.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

 :)

Am I slow, or is this just crazy time consuming?  :o

Still some jobs to do on them, but getting there.
After that, I can do the engine and close the fuselage.

More soon,

Robin
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on November 06, 2019, 04:50:59 AM
Hey where did this one come from? I missed this as I was looking at your other build.....

The lozenge and othe wing markings were time very well spent - and to me the time in hours was not long. To get the standard of finish that you have achieved inevitably takes time - but as your wings show, it is worth it. The interior is also superb - one of the advantages of larger scales is that you can put in more details and see them!

Will be following more closely in future.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: FAf on November 06, 2019, 07:36:25 AM
Looking really good! Masking on top of decals is scary!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on November 06, 2019, 07:59:59 AM
Nice progress!

Masking on top of decals on the other hand....yikes!
To avoid masking on decals there is also another method, but I have not tried myself.
One can use a decal sheet for self printing, spray with airbrush the paint on this decal, cut stripes, apply as normal.
At least for those wing stripes this method should work.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 07, 2019, 01:27:52 AM
Thanks gentlemen,

Wings are ready....yay!
Final touches took me the whole day, but ready now.
166 decals plus about a dozen of small decal patches to fix a few mistakes.
I enjoyed doing this "hardcore lozenge"....hell of a job, but fun. I happily do it again. :)

(https://i.postimg.cc/0QH4v0Ry/IMG-3571.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I love the smell of Microsol in the morning. 8)
These Microsculpt decals respond fantastic to Sol.

(https://i.postimg.cc/XYwt55Fs/IMG-3572.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The leading edge and wing tip tapes were not in the Eduard manual, but I had enough spares to make them.
Wasn't easy to put them on the edge...lots of Microsol to get them in place.

(https://i.postimg.cc/bvpW9v9p/IMG-3579b.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Some crazy small, but still readable decals.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nL25Rt37/IMG-3579.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/j2wFSntQ/IMG-3582.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

With this out of the way...done the internal rigging...for what's worth.

(https://i.postimg.cc/SsKPHtPP/IMG-3573.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Next...engine and close the fuselage.

Robin  :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on November 07, 2019, 03:21:56 AM
This is really shaping up to be a superb model. Looking forward to more.

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on November 07, 2019, 07:30:10 AM
Superb indeed! Looking absolutely gorgeous!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: FAf on November 07, 2019, 09:37:59 PM
Inspiring work!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 09, 2019, 08:56:33 AM
Thanks gentlemen. :)

Did the engine...

(https://i.postimg.cc/sxgBq0bv/IMG-3591.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Since almost nothing will be visible in the end, I put very little effort in it.
Only added the spark plug cable tubes...and those won't be visible either. ;D

After adding the MG support bar....closed the fuselage...

(https://i.postimg.cc/tCf1vkk4/IMG-3598.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I can now start working on the outside. Lozenge, paint, tail...bits and bobs. All fun jobs. :)

Oh...and did the basic painting of the prop with my prop painting tool.
Don't expect wonders from it. The result gives me a starting point for brush painting the prop.

1. Start with a light colour for good contrast...
(https://i.postimg.cc/zX3bk6nQ/prop1.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

2. Clamp prop behind the louvres...
(https://i.postimg.cc/bYmSkp2b/prop2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

3. Airbrush....
(https://i.postimg.cc/6302HNjk/prop3.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

4. Done...ready for brush painting now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fyq3Nfh5/prop4.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Some new goodies to play with....
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1YnHKNC/IMG-3596.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

More soon,

Robin :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: gedmundson on November 09, 2019, 11:32:34 AM
Absolutely top-notch work, Robin. Thanks for sharing it.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: kensar on November 09, 2019, 09:21:28 PM
Ahh, now I understand how your prop painting tool works.  Very inventive.
Great looking work on all the bits, Robin.  Clean work on the engine and interior.
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Gene K on November 09, 2019, 10:43:13 PM
Ahh, now I understand how your prop painting tool works. 

Wish I had your understanding.  :-[

Gene K
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on November 09, 2019, 11:34:03 PM
Nice job on the wings Robin  :)


Terri
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 10, 2019, 09:44:10 AM
Thanks guys and gal.

"The Case Of The Two Lilacs" ;D

My take on them....

(https://i.postimg.cc/bJ4HKkpk/IMG-3609.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/SsnfTDFm/IMG-3608.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Tomorrow: varnish and lozenge.

And finally received the Maxima Chameleon line...

(https://i.postimg.cc/qqnX0qvY/IMG-3611.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I was wondering about BvB's expensive taste for rigging line, but it seems I ordered 1000 metres of it. :o
Well, I can also do the Albi D.II rigging now.

Robin  :)




Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on November 10, 2019, 08:05:36 PM
What brass tubes do you use for that rigging line?
0.12mm sound a bit thick to get it two time trough my 0.4mm brass (inside 0.2). For my Gaspatch 1/48 turnbuckles even 0.4mm looks thick, but I have not found 0.35mm tubes.

By the way, you prop masking tool is available commercially in 1/32 scale here:
http://www.radubstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=429

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: AndRoby67 on November 10, 2019, 11:40:41 PM
Many compliments for your steps, clean work.
Roberto
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: FAf on November 11, 2019, 02:19:45 AM
A thousand metres... that's going to take a lot of models! 😀
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 11, 2019, 03:02:03 AM
Thanks guys,

Frank, I'll use 0,5mm tubes....I know they're out of scale, but I can live with that.  :)
I've seen the 1/32 prop painting tool. I was first! 2011. ;D Maybe they "borrowed" my idea, or came up with the same idea...not knowing about mine.
I showed it on the Aerodrome forum in 2011.

Fredrik...yeah...I need more models!   8)

Today was another nice day at the bench...

(https://i.postimg.cc/J0zHjTLc/IMG-3618.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/HnvczQWG/IMG-3622.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MZ9Qz87s/IMG-3624.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Eduard has the placement of the Balkenkreuzen on the fuselage wrong.
In front of the lilac painted rear....they should be partly covered by it.
Easy to fix.

Also wrong....the width of the lilac fuselage band...too narrow. Of course also easy to fix.
A bit more work will be making new "Li" letters. The decals are way too skimpy and a bit too tall. they look stretched. I can make new ones, not a big deal.

Robin  :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: FAf on November 11, 2019, 03:55:03 AM

Fredrik...yeah...I need more models!   8)


Well, I can't see any other solution to the problem of too much rigging material! 😁
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 11, 2019, 04:48:43 AM
Lovely work, Robin  ;) The picture of the reel of Maxima made me smile. You now have enough rigging for 3 life times  ;D

Question: The Model Air paint used for the lamination effect...did you thin it? If so, with?

The reason I ask is I tried spraying with Model Air earlier today and it just wouldn't spray right. I thinned it with flow improver, which didn't help with flow or Tip-Dry. I ended up dumping the paint out of the cup and then spent the next 30 minutes cleaning all the minute parts of my airbrush.  The brush is back to 100% working order. 

Live and learn  :D

Von Maxima Dealer
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 11, 2019, 06:03:27 AM
Hiya Bob,

Model Air is supposed to be ready for the airbrush, but it hardly ever is.
I use a 0,2mm nozzle on my Evolution and I use low pressure....without more thinner...splutter, sputter...clogged. :-X

I always add a few drops of Vallejo airbrush thinner.
Until recently, I mixed it in the airbrush cup, but often inconsistent....too thin...good...too thick. At random. ::)

Now I mix it in a seperate cup and use eyedroppers to mix well and move it to the airbrush cup.
Even with Air paint...often 50% thinner added. Build up thin misty layers works best (for me) and it keeps my airbrush from becomming a mess.
It's just a little bit more work, but the result is much better and cleaning much easier.

Trial and error...does it ever end?  :-\

Robin
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: bobs_buckles on November 11, 2019, 07:48:10 AM
Quote

Trial and error...does it ever end?  :-\

Robin

Never!  ;D
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
I mix all my paint before it goes in the colour cup, but for some reason the 'Air' paint gives me trouble. Not to worry, back to Tamiya and Gunze.

Cheers,
Bob  :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on November 11, 2019, 12:38:00 PM
Looking absolutely Stunning! I Love your Lilacs!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 13, 2019, 08:18:24 AM
Thanks gentlemen...you're too kind. :-[

After a fruitful day....

(https://i.postimg.cc/bYZ4zB4b/IMG-3629.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

 :)

Note the wrong Eduard "Li" decal. I'm not a rivet counter, but that's just way off. :-\

More soon,

Robin  :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on November 13, 2019, 09:12:25 AM
Outstanding work on the decaling and stripe painting! Really looking Awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on November 13, 2019, 10:56:47 AM
It was a fruitful day , even a cherry on top ! Nice progress Robin  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: FAf on November 13, 2019, 04:17:21 PM
Beautiful! I like the contrasts between the different colours. It makes for an eye-catching scheme!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Manni on November 13, 2019, 04:21:39 PM
Wonderful work. The lilac is right perfect. Everything looks very clean painted and decaled.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Borsos on November 13, 2019, 09:36:16 PM
Thumbs up! This is going to be a little jewel.
Andreas
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: kensar on November 13, 2019, 10:36:43 PM
 8)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: AlbertD on November 14, 2019, 05:03:16 AM
Fine work. It looks fantastic.
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: lcarroll on November 14, 2019, 08:13:15 AM
Robin,
    Just catching up here, the paint and decal work is superb! I too had to snicker when I read the label on the Maxima spool; I, being far less compulsive use the smaller version (250 meters) but sadly have three of them stashed here! :-[ Nothing strange about us Model Builders I maintain!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 14, 2019, 09:18:03 AM
Thanks all,

With the light of my magnifier lamp...the lilac looks different on my photo's.

This is (more or less) the true colour....
(https://i.postimg.cc/XJrqdCsJ/IMG-3647.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

For some reason it often shows more pink on my photo's...while it's more mauve or purple.

Had another full day to work on Li, but not much to show for it. :-\

I forgot to place the altimeter in the right corner earlier, but I managed to squeeze it in. I was afraid to drop it in the pit, but it went well.
The Eduard PE instruments (in this kit) are very nice....with "fold over" bezels. Even a cute little anemometer. :)
But...typical Eduard...great here...dumb there....
No attachment points for the Spandaus, other then the ammo feed...and that's not enough.
Solved this with 2 brass pins in the ammo box underneath. Drilling holes in a finished pit.....geez!

(https://i.postimg.cc/J4fnJ0X7/IMG-3636.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

But they're there now...phew!  :-X

Furthermore...painted the struts, but that's not worth showing.

More soon,

Robin



Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on November 14, 2019, 12:37:25 PM
Wow , where do you find the time ? Making fast work on this one Rodin  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on November 14, 2019, 11:43:01 PM
Looks great with the lower wing and Spandaus attached! Really coming along nicely!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on November 15, 2019, 02:24:21 AM
Robin, you are really fast!

Note the wrong Eduard "Li" decal.
What was your way to fix it?
I guess you painted white, masked with stripes, and painted lilac?

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 15, 2019, 07:09:44 AM
Nope....I cut a spare white (Pheon Dr.I JG2) decal to pieces and patchworked the "Li" from it.
With the lozenge decals...I avoid masking like the plague. :-\

Robin
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Bughunter on November 15, 2019, 10:02:22 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot the decals below - no masking prefered.
Thanks!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 19, 2019, 11:18:50 PM
Finished the Albatros D.II, so back to this one.  :)

A somewhat fiddly strut construction...

(https://i.postimg.cc/4ybrp9b9/IMG-3695.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

And a test fit. It fits...more or less. :-\
Some adjusting needed. I let the glue cure completely before I continue.

(https://i.postimg.cc/43jkGZxm/IMG-3691.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Made new straight OAW style lifting handles from 0,3 mm brass rod.

(https://i.postimg.cc/1z8hb4Pk/IMG-3694.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Robin :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 19, 2019, 11:36:58 PM
Also finished painting the prop.

This is where I was....

4. Done...ready for brush painting now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fyq3Nfh5/prop4.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

The rest is old fashioned "hecho a mano" brush painting with the airbrushed lines as a guide.

First dark brown...

(https://i.postimg.cc/Y26c55KC/prop5.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Followed by the light tan...

(https://i.postimg.cc/yxzMJP9K/prop6.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Washed, decals, varnish and hub...

(https://i.postimg.cc/pT8NX7mk/prop7.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

And that's it...

Robin :)
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: lone modeller on November 20, 2019, 02:16:39 AM
I really like that propellor - the colours look very realistic. The rest of the model looks pretty good too!!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: RAGIII on November 20, 2019, 04:54:01 AM
Your prop is outstanding! Very Nice work on the lifting handles!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Robin on November 20, 2019, 09:14:11 AM
Thanks guys,

I was struggling with attaching the upper wing to "the rest".
The struts are a bit flimsy and the top wing is rather chunky.
Sat on my hands until I figured out how to do this, without the whole thing collapsing. :-\
Decided to do it upside down...fixed on a piece of foamboard.

(https://i.postimg.cc/dtv9JPYW/IMG_3704.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

That worked pretty well....also for the landing gear. :)

Got it off the board to check whether (or not) all is straight...and out of curiosity of course.
Dry fit the prop and rudder...just to see how it all looks together. ::)

(https://i.postimg.cc/L5VLJ5px/IMG_3707.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Looks okey.

It's now back on the foamboard for the (minor) rigging and underside weathering.

Thought I could finish this today, but that was over optimistic....tomorrow!  ;D

Robin

Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48
Post by: Alexis on November 20, 2019, 11:38:56 AM
Such a tease ...




Terri
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48 (finished)
Post by: Softscience on November 21, 2019, 01:34:08 AM
Looks beautiful!

How did you measure and adjust the spread of the outward flaring cabane struts for this one?

Also, do you use a slow setting adhesive for your strut work?
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48 (finished)
Post by: Robin on November 21, 2019, 01:52:52 AM
Thanks,

I measured the distance between the holes in the top wing.
Some adjusting was needed. I used Revell Contacta glue...when in place reinforced with a drop of thin CA glue.
The stuts from the wing root to the top wing were about 4 mm too long.

Was a bit of a pain to get it all done. :-\

Robin
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48 (finished)
Post by: Bughunter on November 21, 2019, 04:07:30 AM
Your Fokker looks very nice - I like it!

The stuts from the wing root to the top wing were about 4 mm too long.
Oh, I have not changed that, but my outer struts are bending now ::)
But if I shorten the inner struts, the stress on the outer one is increasing?!?
Still confused, but on  higher level 8)

On my next D.VII I will do more dry fitting!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48 (finished)
Post by: RAGIII on November 22, 2019, 12:12:03 AM
Looks outstanding with the wing mounted. You used the same method ,more or less, that I used on all 5 of My 1/32nd DVII builds  8)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48 (finished)
Post by: Robin on November 22, 2019, 01:26:34 AM
5? :o
No wonder you suffer from a biplane burnout....geez!  :-\

Robin
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48 (finished)
Post by: Borsos on November 22, 2019, 11:24:30 PM
That’s a nice Fokker D. VII all around, you did a great job! And I really like your clever way of painting the prop!
Best regards
Andreas
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48 (finished)
Post by: coyotemagic on November 23, 2019, 04:04:51 AM
That’s a nice Fokker D. VII all around, you did a great job! And I really like your clever way of painting the prop!
Best regards
Andreas
I couldn't agree more, Robin!  Simply gorgeous!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Fokker D.VII (OAW), Rudolf Stark, Jasta 35b. Eduard 1/48 (finished)
Post by: Robin on November 23, 2019, 08:37:10 AM
Thanks a lot guys.

It was a fun build....with some setbacks and scary moments. Not everything went smooth.

Not shown this for instance...
(https://i.postimg.cc/mDZwhcXk/oh_no.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Fixed it and carried on. :-[

Stuff like that. ;D

Thanks again,

Robin