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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Nigrivender on September 25, 2019, 07:00:57 AM

Title: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Nigrivender on September 25, 2019, 07:00:57 AM

Hello,
This time Morane Saulnier N on 1/32 scale by Special Hobby came to the workshop. After inspecting the parts, I come to the conclusion that the model will turn out to be pleasant to assemble. Although I had a puzzle difficult to solve when choosing painting. After studying the materials I am "forced" to perform painting in RFC colors :D. At first, I was very eager to do it in painting the pilot Smirnov from Russia. It turned out, however, that he flew on Morane but on Type I. Type N is significantly different from I. The first  important thing is the armament, N had Hotchinss and Type I already Vikckers, the part before the pilot covering the Vickers rifle was also changed. Type N was powered by the 80 -HP Le Rchone 9C engine, and type I 110-Hp by Le Rchone. Hence another engine cover, different hubcap and propeller. Type I already had a synchronized cannon. The difference can be seen in the attached photos.
Typ N
(https://i.imgur.com/3zSoV4S.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/jeSaudB.png)
Typ I
(https://i.imgur.com/uuEbvUp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/kTrJB1P.png)

Returning to the model. I will try to make it in such a painting.
(https://i.imgur.com/RdtL1we.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XKdluUz.png)
And I was going to do it
(https://i.imgur.com/bWqG8u7.png).

And what I was able to do. This will make a new truss. And here I have questions whether there was a plate behind the pilot's seat or an empty space with a truss, and whether there was a floor because here they suggest differently.
From SH
(https://i.imgur.com/MuW8IOi.jpg)
and mine
(https://i.imgur.com/Mt8uQCo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IjOMxVn.jpg)
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Ryan on September 25, 2019, 07:21:11 AM
I like this kit and have it in progress.

Not sure how accurate, but I built a floor in the pit.

https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=9834.msg179177#msg179177

Ryan
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Gene K on September 25, 2019, 08:40:24 AM

This time Morane Saulnier N on 1/32 scale by Special Hobby came to the workshop.

A wonderful lead in post - thanks!

Gene K
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Juan on September 25, 2019, 08:55:50 AM
Great start on a neat subject, looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Bughunter on September 26, 2019, 02:50:52 AM
Nice start!
You showed interesting pictures! My Type-I project in 1/48 is on hold, because I do not now yet, how this russian I cockpit covering really looks like and how to create that from scratch.
Do you have a front picture of an I?
Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Mike Norris on September 26, 2019, 05:03:56 AM
This kit can be made into a nice model.
The one I made is on my site (link below) in gallery1.
The kit does not supply the MS logo for the engine cowl - I printed mine, but I think you can the logo in 1:32 scale here:

http://www.tomsmodelworks.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_30

Mike

Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Nigrivender on September 26, 2019, 05:51:12 AM
Hi,
BugHunter,
 Only these type I photos (maybe I will find something). I don't have cockpit photos.
(https://i.imgur.com/KhN0zNt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WUulSAN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CmHKHMr.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jqQqORA.jpg)

Mike,
The page is unfortunately not loading. And I use the logo with Begemot decals, nr 3
(https://i.imgur.com/1Psj4Rw.jpg) 
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: O_Pablo on September 26, 2019, 06:21:37 PM
Hi Nigrivender,
below are two drawings of the Morane-Saulnier cabin. The upper and lower profiles should be rather square, the struts between them round.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48797649027_22fe964f22_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hm5GYk)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48797151598_4e1459bb71_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hm3a6Y)

Two photographs (probably known to Bughunter). In my opinion, in Russian Morany, the cover was rather slightly rectangular at the top.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48797151498_e7b3bb3834_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hm3a5f)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48797508506_4102c5bc3f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hm4Zcy)

All photo found at the web.
Regards
Paul
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Nigrivender on September 26, 2019, 07:53:42 PM
Hi,
Thank you for the illustrations :). However, my work has progressed and I will not change. I will show you my progress soon.

PS I made the N version :D, not I. I do the Bughunter and he will use it very much. ;)
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: RAGIII on September 26, 2019, 11:01:20 PM
Excellent work on the framework! I am looking forward to following your build!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Ryan on September 27, 2019, 12:25:54 AM
Something to watch out for is that the trailing edges of the wings are not level if you just plug them in the locating holes. (One wing trailing edge is higher than the other.)

Just a heads up.
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Nigrivender on September 28, 2019, 07:10:57 AM
Hi,
Slowly forward, there are a few small things left and I will close the hull.
(https://i.imgur.com/7DCDJoD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1eSzmzC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/skAl7uO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wPxtmd9.jpg)
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: RAGIII on September 28, 2019, 07:21:28 AM
The interior is looking excellent! Looking forward to your next update!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Bughunter on September 29, 2019, 04:33:01 AM
Good progress, I like the cockpit.
And thank you all for trying to answering my question!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Alexis on September 29, 2019, 09:07:51 PM
Nice clean work  :)



Terri
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Nigrivender on September 30, 2019, 01:02:56 AM
A small update
(https://i.imgur.com/2TeYCHx.jpg)
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: RAGIII on September 30, 2019, 02:53:43 AM
Looks Awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Robin on September 30, 2019, 05:38:57 AM
That's beautiful. :)

Robin
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Ryan on September 30, 2019, 11:55:49 PM
Looking sharp.
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Alexis on October 01, 2019, 12:41:30 AM
Looking good so far  8)




Terri
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Nigrivender on October 07, 2019, 04:47:17 AM

Something is still going on. Little progress, but a lot to improve and retouch.
(https://i.imgur.com/WpuI5DI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tU9b76u.jpg)
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Alexis on October 07, 2019, 06:21:06 AM
Coming along very nicely , like the weathering  :)




Terri
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Nigrivender on October 07, 2019, 07:37:59 AM
Weathering is not yet here I need to improve the cover lines of wings and fins, then varnish and decals and  weathering. For now, it's just a light airbrush shading when putting the main color.
I use techniques on tanks and it's hard to get rid of some habits.
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Nigrivender on November 13, 2019, 04:40:35 AM

Hello, I have shown progress for a long time. Podów was such that I tried to finish the started tank projects 1:35, and a lot of work at home - renovation.
Here's the progress. I plan to finish by the end of the month but I probably won't make it ;). I didn't make the engine in detail. It will be almost completely obscured.
(https://i.imgur.com/3Mkl4PB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/h11vZ5I.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oEGYQwS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MZSveSX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WUgEPeD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8j5HAuy.jpg)
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: RAGIII on November 13, 2019, 06:48:12 AM
Very impressive! I love the colorful scheme and the weathering is perfect, In My Opinion!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Manni on November 13, 2019, 04:38:32 PM
I am very pleased with your weathering. In my eyes it looks really realistic. Looking forward to your next updates.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Nigrivender on November 13, 2019, 07:16:35 PM

Thank you for yours kind words.
I also admire from your achievements in from yours workshops, I learn from yours and try to copy, although I do not do as well as you.
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: Robin on November 13, 2019, 08:11:57 PM
Eye candy!

Robin   :)
Title: Re: Morane Saulnier Typ N 1/32 Special Hobby
Post by: kensar on November 13, 2019, 10:35:55 PM
The overall look is amazing.  The weathering and preshading is excellent.