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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: kensar on August 20, 2019, 11:49:15 PM
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I have started my first WNW kit - the Sopwith Pup. I have decided to go with the Baby Mine version as it's somewhat colorful and has a tie in to Dunkirk like my Hanriot.
(https://i.postimg.cc/cJqkcRNj/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-01.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I have built both engines before deciding which version to build. Although both engines have poor seam lines between the front and back halves, the cowling of the 80 hp version should hide most of the engine.
Before weathering.
(https://i.postimg.cc/GmTSYM6G/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-03.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The kit is very detailed and I plan to add more of my own personal touches here and there.
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Nice one Ken, looking forward to your progress.
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Lovely engines! Looking forward to this one... Regards, Marc
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Nice start on the engines! I am also looking forward to your build!
RAGIII
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I have seen a couple of these built at shows and they make up into a nice model. I am certain that you are going to demonstrate to us how to turn it into an exceptional model. Looking forwards to more.
Stephen.
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Thanks for the encouragement. I hope I can live up to your expectations. A lot of you can build a kit better than I can build a kit. Right now, I'm not quite satisfied with the engines and trying to figure out what to do next with them.
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It looks to be going well.
For the engines realize all of the engine parts are not made of the same materials.
Start by mentally segmenting the parts and begin coloring different parts groups with appropriate paints.
Then go to detailing with wash'
Then go to pigments for some parts.
Then go to individual parts like the bolts , ,many of which have diff finish' . One finish in particuar was to boil the hardware in oil, impregnating the hardware and leaving it a dirty brown color.
Go on The Gotha thread and watch the engine detail emerge as I do these procedures.
Dont use the same color for the whole engine!
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Tagging along for this one , nice start on the engine . She looks excellent .
Terri
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Thanks for commenting everyone. The picture of the engines were taken just after painting a base color of aluminum and before weathering and detail painting. I tend to take pictures at random points in the build.
Krow113 - I did not know of the oil treatment on the hardware pieces. What was the purpose of this? Oxidation resistance? I am curious.
I am interested in opinions of what color the main rotary engine parts would be after a short time of use. I know the cylinders and it looks like the crankcase were machined, and would be bright aluminum after it was just made. Pictures of engines in aircraft suggest that they are not bright aluminum, so what color would they be?
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Parkerizing is the treatments name. It is a procedure to combat oxidising .
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Thanks for that info. I learn something new every visit here.
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Well, I have researched the engine and based on the TVAL Pup and Kermit's Pup, I have finished both engines and proceeded to the cockpit.
80 hp. Looks like it was run a little too lean and over heated.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pX2syDZK/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-08.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Masking the interior wood.
(https://i.postimg.cc/s2ZcbKjC/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-06.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Painted. Waiting for the oil based wood grain to dry, then the metal braces will be painted black.
(https://i.postimg.cc/SxPdZHpG/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-09.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I have made another instrument panel and will turn out metal bezels and scratchbuild the details.
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Outstanding Masking and painting!
RAGIII
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Fantastic work Ken, that engine looks like its still hot.... lovely.
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Great job and a fantastic idea to change the color on the cylinders. that turns them really to look like overheated.
Andreas
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Brilliant work, Ken.
I will use your masking method the next time I pull a Sopwith out of the stash. It seems a lot simpler than the 'round the houses' method I conjured up ;D
Looking forward to seeing more updates.
Cheers,
Bob ;)
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I'm with Bob,simple now I've seen it and very quick.Your engine came up a treat Ken.
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Thanks for the comments, everyone. I do appreciate you taking the time to post them.
The engine picture has over emphasized the colors. The colors are actually more subdued and realistic.
Masking and painting those small wooden stringers in the cockpit seemed like the way to go. Trying to brush paint them would be a pain. I also added some post shadowing under them with some Tamiya weathering 'paste'-like stuff. I used it to make the blue discoloration on the engine cylinders as well. They look like women's cosmetics. The set I have includes blue, red, and black smoke-like color.
I've painted the black brackets on the cockpit framing and will be detailing the interior in the next few days.
Thanks for following along!
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I thought for a moment that the photo of the engine was of a real one which you were using to demonstrate the effect that you were trying to achieve! I am equally impressed by your making your own instrument bezels... Where do your skills stop? Brilliant.
Stephen.
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More progress.
I noticed that the moulded throttle quadrant on the left side of the cockpit framing is not on this version, so I fabbed one up.
(https://i.postimg.cc/SR6cL2Mn/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-10.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
There's a lot of control cables coming off this part. Duplicate rudder cables, tail skid steering cables and elevator cables.
(https://i.postimg.cc/wxL5YPG9/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-11.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Scratched a new IP. Everything just barely fit. The watch came out a little off, but I'll live with it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/XvPKn0WY/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-12.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Seat detail. I cut the PE seatbelt and flipped over the end so it looks like its folded on itself.
(https://i.postimg.cc/tCb3q5KW/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-14.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/j20zJQLV/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-15.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Soon I'll be installing the rest of the cockpit parts.
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrMmPDHc/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-16.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/jSdyNjdj/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-17.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Thanks for following along.
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Looking good Ken 8)
Terri
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Thanks, T
I just noticed the airspeed indicator is upside down. Funny how you don't notice things until its too late. ::)
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Your Pup interior looks Fantastic! All is well done as usual. I Never would have Noticed the Airspeed indicator was upside down and don't think anyone else will 8)
RAGIII
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Superb modelling Ken, having made a WnW Pup awhile back I can appreciate the little nuances you are working into your build to make it world class. When you are finished send photos to Wingnuts for their customer models' pages because master modelling like yours deserves the widest audience.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Thanks, T
I just noticed the airspeed indicator is upside down. Funny how you don't notice things until its too late. ::)
Happens to me all the time , just seems more frequent them normal ...
Terri
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Thanks for the compliment, Dave. I just can't build anything OOB anymore.
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The instrument panel looks fabulous.
I'm saving my pup until I have the time and skills to do it justice as I particularly like this little plane, but will be bookmarking this build for future reference.
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Putting it together...
(https://i.postimg.cc/wMJLFnNW/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-20.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/7Y8gbYvj/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-21.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qBCsk6F8/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-22.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I added this crossbar to try to straighten out the control cables, which was only partially successful.
(https://i.postimg.cc/52JqK9n8/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-25.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I added the wrapping on the tailskid, as I have seen on other planes.
(https://i.postimg.cc/dQz9djCH/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-24.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Prepping the fuse halves. I figured one could see back into the fuse with the pilot seat being so low, so I just pencilled in some shadowy structure and bracing detail. We'll see how successful this is.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5NLSmQqx/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-23.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I have closed up the fuse now and turning to planning the tail and forward fuse details.
Returning to the machine gun for a moment, I tried to figure out why there was a chute and a hand crank on the IP. Apparently, with this early gun setup, the ammo in a cloth belt was fed into one side of the gun breech, the cloth belt passed through the gun and the pilot wound up the empty belt using the hand crank. The empty shells were pushed out of the cloth belt and ejected out the bottom of the gun, hence the chute under the gun breech.
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Making fair progress on this one Ken , like the idea of penciling in some of the detail .
Terri
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Lovely Ken!
It passes the macro photo test too..
Guy
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The interior and penciled in details look gorgeous. Excellent work all around!
RAGIII
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Stunning interior detail, Ken. But since constructive criticism should be part of our groups conversations?...the wrap on the hand grip of the control column doesn't work for me. It feels a little out of scale and does it really add or detract? My eye is drawn to it as something not quite right when the rest is so beautifully rendered to scale. Just my thought and certainly not something that I'd suggest you change!
Cheers
Alistair
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Working on a pup myself Ken, your added details, finish and rigging look well done sir.
Ryan
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Thanks for the honest comment, Alistair. It's appearance has bothered me and I decided I don't like it either, but at this point, I have moved on and won't try to change it. Maybe I can tone it down with more gray 'weathering' ::). I just put it down as a learning point. I did change the approach for the wrapping on the tailskid, using sewing thread instead of wire, which I think worked much better, and will likely be the approach next time.
I welcome criticisms to my builds because they help me gauge whether a building technique is acceptable for a given application, or if another approach should be tried. Another example of this is pencilling in the detail inside the fuse. I don't know if this will 'work' but I'm not afraid to experiment.
I have yet to build a 'perfect' model and probably never will, but its fun to try!
It's been a while since I updated this and I have been working on it. I'm just at a point in the build that consumes a lot of time with little to show for it.
Thanks for the comments everyone!
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Okay, update time (finally).
I'm still slogging along with general painting, but I had opportunities to do some detail work.
Oil painted wood grain on the turtledeck.
(https://i.postimg.cc/SNrXG4cr/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-26.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I took the opportunity to do some paint chipping using 'worn effects' from AK Interactive. Tried not to get too carried away. This is supposed to be light weathering.
(https://i.postimg.cc/MppnPLD8/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-27.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/760hJrxS/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-28.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Jh9thzW1/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-29.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pLcpgBG5/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-32.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/159XXdbN/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-35.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Jz0hckrr/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-36.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Bv8Xs1kY/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-33.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/4y13wvHd/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-34.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Looking at adding an ammo belt. This plane's gun used a cloth belt. The ammo is small pieces of copper wire and the belt is two pieces of masking tape stuck sticky sides together around the wire pieces.
(https://i.postimg.cc/J73t18YL/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-37.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/DzbyR34R/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-38.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/6pPpHpqd/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-39.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
The hard part was getting the gunpowder in them! ;D
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Lovely details and painting!
RAGIII
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A short update.
Replacing some wing detail.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fyjWH610/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-40.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/PrT5L58b/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-43.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Painting and decaling on the fuse and lower wing is in-progress.
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Very cool 8)
Terri
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Awesome detail enhancement, Ken!
Cheers,
Bud
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Thanks, Terri and Bud.
Getting through the overall painting and decaling.
(https://i.postimg.cc/fRZzT6Kr/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-44.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Excellent progress, wish I was that far along on mine.
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The added detail in the inspection panel is awesome as is the painting and decaling! Loveely bird!
RAGIII
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Truly inspirational work (and a bit intimidating :-\ :))
Those extra details that you add, e.g. the pulley for the wing, are those made by you? What material and how?
Cheers Fredrik
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Thanks for posting, Ryan, Rick, and Fredrik.
I made the pulleys on my lathe. They are aluminum. They are very small!
I hope this isn't discouraging anyone from building models, as that certainly isn't the purpose of my postings. I have invested a lot of time and money over the years in the capability to build and detail models. With deep interest and motivation, I am driven to push my capabilities to make every model better than the last one and to see just what is possible to do. I hope that by posting, others will get ideas to try out and give me some ideas, too.
Best Regards,
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I hope this isn't discouraging anyone from building models, as that certainly isn't the purpose of my postings. [...] I hope that by posting, others will get ideas to try out and give me some ideas, too.
Hi again!
Don't worry about the intimidating remark and focus on the truly inspirational one instead! :)
A lathe... interesting!
/Fredrik
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Thanks, Fredrik. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your builds.
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Lovely work all around!
Andreas
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Thanks, Andreas. I appreciate your comment.
Some general progress shots...
(https://i.postimg.cc/t49ymqWC/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-46.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pT5tnpbk/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-47.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/kGrPNq7C/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-48.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/1XphJ2zq/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-49.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/g0JpmggC/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-50.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/tgMjTFfY/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-51.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I found the cowling doesn't fit all the way into position when the motor is mounted, so I'll have to fix that. I'm moving onto the top wing next.
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Your details are fantastic Ken.
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Continuing to be a stunning build Ken. Details, decaling, and painting all included!
RAGIII
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Nice clean work , she is impressive so far . Love the details on the tail skid :)
Terri
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Thank you, Juan, Rick, and Terri.
I'll be taking a week long break for a family vacation now.
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Getting on with painting of the upper wing, so I did some wheel work while waiting for the paint to dry.
I added some spoke and valve stem detail. Kit detail just wasn't good enough for me (its a curse).
(https://i.postimg.cc/tCRYgB8W/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-52.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/2j71ms9C/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-53.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
After the photo, I also added some wash to bring out the spoke detail on the cover. Starting on the landing gear also.
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Very careful work on great details! That will be a lovely Pup :)
Cheers,
Frank
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Very nice! I suppose you have a method for the tires, would mind describing it? I'm just about to paint my Albatros tires...
/Fredrik
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Thanks Frank and Fredrik.
In the top picture, I have painted the tire a dark gray and the wheel cover is a CDL color using gloss enamels (since there are decals to be applied). After decaling, I sealed the wheel with Future clear coat. Then comes a flat coat using Testors lacquer flat coat which makes a very flat color. Then I used a sponge to dab some dirt colored acrylic water based wash on the tire, working it around on the tread surface. Just when it looks like it needs a little more - STOP.
From the pictures I have seen, German tires are a lighter gray than British tires.
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Thanks for the instructions! :)
I'll try something similar and see what comes out of it. /F
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Excellent painting and weathering on the wheels and Tires!
RAGIII
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Baby, I wish she were mine :)
Excellent work, Ken!
von B 8)
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Thanks for the comments, everyone.
A small update: landing gear
(https://i.postimg.cc/ryQGd4xz/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-54.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I have added thread to simulate the bungie cord and also the metal pieces that retain the cord.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VLvqXNWg/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-55.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Test fit of the wheels.
(https://i.postimg.cc/TYsr0Xk6/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-56.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/GmsvSSNs/WNW-Sopwith-Pup-57.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
I will also add a bracing wire and turnbuckle across the front of the axle. The weathering on the entire plane will begin very soon. Won't be too long till the finish.
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Your gear, bungees, and wheels look awesome Ken!
RAGIII
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Thanks, Rick. Your Meteor is looking very good. 8)
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Wonderfully weathered wheels. I really love them.
Andreas
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Great work, and thanks for sharing a description of your techniques.
Cheers,
Gary
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Thanks for the compliments, Andreas and Gary.
I've started the rigging and will do more weathering on it.
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Great work and very cool details, Ken.
The leather and the wood is incredible and the wheels are terrific.
Bye,
Manni
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Excellent work so far, Ken! I've got this kit in my cache and will save your thread for a reference for when I get to it. Well done! 8)
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The gear looks awesome! This is one area I need to improve on... I tend to do it as an afterthought rather than an integral part of the build.
RAGIII
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Shaping up very nicely indeed Ken :) Super job on those wheels 8)
Terri
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Thank you for the kind comments, folks.
This was finished and a thread is on the second page of the completed builds sub-forum.