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WW1 Aircraft Modeling => Under Construction => Topic started by: Nigrivender on August 06, 2019, 07:09:48 PM
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Hello,
Return to aircraft from the octet of the Great War. A model known and liked or not or Fokker DR from Roden hit my workshop.
At the beginning I do not know what to write about the set - shotrun or model you know :).
This is my training model so I do not stick to authenticity, I will try to do my best.
For now what I created.
(https://i.imgur.com/2bu3ZXG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qFTd5vA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CugLL8n.jpg)
and matching the whole
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Nice start. Lovely wood and linen!
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Terrific start. Like Przemo said your wood and linen painting looks Great! Are you using the Part Photo Etch Set?
RAGIII
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Like the others have said, great start. The wood grain and the overall detail looks good.
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You've chosen a great model to start your WW.I Aircraft Modelling adventure, a good solid Kit and your wood and linen look great as already noted. By the looks of your work so far you are off to a spectacular start ....... enjoy!
Cheers,
Lance
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Your off to a great start, Rafal! Lovely interior work.
Cheers,
Bud
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Hello,
Thank you for very kind words about my previous work. As for the add-ons, of course, I use Eduard and Part photo parts, but most of them I did myself - strengthening the hull. I also used the CMS engine and a small digression here is not much better made what Roden offers. Soon it will show the entire interior before closing the hull. I imitate plywood on Talens inks and then a very thin layer of varnish. And I don't paint, I only paint with acrylic paints, because I once got poisoned with some enamel and I'm allergic.
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If this is a training mosdel I cannot wait to see what you do on a serious one. This is better than many models that I see in shows, the linen and wood in particular are first class.
Stepehn
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I like it , you are doing a very fine job so far .
Terri
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Hey,
Progress from work. And now for people who would like to mount the engine with CSM- you need to grind the cover by 1.5mm in diameter to fit. Roden did it very roughly.
(https://i.imgur.com/dJk70Xj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KScfOHx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/9vhLHsz.jpg)
And right away, I decided not to paint. I will try to do it
(https://i.imgur.com/8AHVjkv.jpg)
And I managed to get such a miracle
(https://i.imgur.com/PPlNINQ.jpg)
As for the Lone Modeller question,
here is a sample of what I can and what I have broken :), although I know that this is not a forum but you can show it and I apologize for that immediately.
(https://i.imgur.com/2azdPx7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tufBHwP.jpg)
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Your DR1 cockpit is continuing to look great! Your chosen scheme is one of My favorites, Your Armor Models are excellent!
RAGIII
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Hello,
Work progress ...
I was able to do my project a little bit.
I made a pilot chair from scratch because I didn't like the Parta chair. I made a small variation with the arrangement of the clock: D. (finally a test - reminder).
I have a tank and ammunition cartridges left and I will close the hull.
(https://i.imgur.com/RdtJYft.jpg)
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(https://i.imgur.com/LDewf0z.jpg)
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Excellent progress! This is shaping up to be a real masterpiece.
Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
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Outstanding work on the interior, this is a real joy to watch unfold! Did you make the compass from scratch or is it from another Kit?
Cheers,
Lance
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Really looking outstanding! Your build and the WnW announcement of a DR1 is inspiring Me to build My last 2, Encore and Roden kits!
RAGIII
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Lovely work Rafal,I'm really enjoying following your progress.Nice choice of schemes also.
Cheers,
Dave.
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Hello,
The compass is a mix of roden-eduard and part parts, just like other clocks and other accessories. For now only what can I say about this set is that what I'm used to is Roden is very tiring on the one hand, the average performance of parts and suddenly like a stone, you have to forge.
Next time I will make a truss from brass pipes when building Fokker from Encore.
I also watched what the WNW showed and no one paid attention to the engine cover, I hope it will improve because it looks like copied from 1/72.
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Next time I will make a truss from brass pipes when building Fokker from Encore.
Can you explain a little more, please?
Thanks,
Gene K
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Hello,
So to the point. too unstable truss when assembling, which is a lot of problems, incorrect height in relation to the hull, a bit too small bracing of the struts to properly arrange the cockpit elements, I had to move 2 clocks for the ammunition cartridges to fit in. Soon I will put pictures. And worst of all, very soft material that causes warp. I may cling, but I have not dealt with such material for a long time. It seems to me like I would do an old Italeri model. It is possible that this is the effect of too old injection molds. But I don't give up, I keep going, it's just a pleasure to have a little frustration for the effect to be satisfactory after completion and very happy for the modeller, for me.
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Thanks for showing us the armour pictures - you are certainly a very highly skilled modeller. The cockpit is one of the best representations that I have seen.
Stephen.
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The Encore/ Roden kit does take some care and adjustments while building. I would recommend getting the Aviattic cowling as it is superior to all of the others including the resin cowling provided in the Encore kit. Just My Opinion,
RAGIII
PS: The Resin engine represents a Lerhone. Okay if doing F1 103/17 for Voss but not for a regular DR1. I am going with the WNW Lehrone that includes the Obereusel front.
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Hello,
RAGIII, thank you for the information: D, but as I wrote at the beginning this is a test model and I do not stick to the technique very much, Roden's set is even very demanding in terms of patience when processing a detail and its fitting. I am currently trying to tilt the fuselage and change the fitting of the wings so that there are no painting problems that I chose. And the engine that I will use in this model is Oberurser U.II from CSM set No. E32-001, this is the one from the photos that I posted after assembly at the beginning of the post.
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Sorry I forgot about the engine :-[ The CSM is a great choice!
RAGIII
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Hey,
Work is ongoing, but slower than I expected due to the folding, you can see how the forms are worked out, finally the model has been on the market for several years. I have to deal with difficult work puttying and sanding. :)
(https://i.imgur.com/uIsiPsQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dCQuGzy.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UBakDHX.jpg)
In the photo you can see why I wrote earlier about the truss how it is incorrectly pasted, and it should be in a square.
(https://i.imgur.com/ADMpx6C.jpg)
Installation of the wings I thought up, the base will be the bottom and then the rest, we'll see how it goes ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/l5IhBjg.jpg)
And I have a question for the more experienced, what should the propeller be?
(https://i.imgur.com/E97GwZB.jpg)
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In spite of your difficulties you are making fine progress! I looked up the photo of this Dr1 and the prop is blocked by the middle wing. If no one comes up with the answer I would go with the Axial, always a good guess. I did find one interesting comment in the caption of one of Greg van Wyngardens books. He states that this Dr1 was one of the "Few" to be powered by a UR II (Remag) engine. I have no idea what a Remag is and if/how it differed?
RAGIII
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Looking great there - glad to see this kit being worked on even with the WNW announcement!
pretty sure going with the Axial is correct?
(http://www.fokkerdr1.com/images/Dr1_564-17_02.jpg)
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Hi,
Thank you very much for information. Filled hull, now it must dry. A long time ago, I haven't used so much putty. ;D
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Nice to follow your excellent progress on this model, since I recently completed mine and found much of the same fit problems. Your results look great indeed so far.
Cheers,
Gary
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Hello,
Work in stone is underway :D. To show what I wrote about earlier, I show these pictures how much putty you need to use on the hull itself, and this is not the end :o.
With wings on it is a little better.
(https://i.imgur.com/ee8iGq8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2HJciJ3.jpg)
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Excellent work so far, and I like your armors as well. Looking forward to your progress on the Fokker.
Ciao
Giuseppe
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After the filling and sanding of the fuselage the rest is pretty straightforward 8) Looking forward to your next post!
RAGIII
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Hey,
The works are still progressing. I didn't do everything as planned. No manhole behind the engine, Parta hull stitching is very exaggerated. I changed the engine cover, it's not perfect but better than Roden's. The model itself is very tiring, maybe it is the result of my laziness :-\. In addition, after testing the AK 2270 set paints, I need to get some paints. Light blue 2276 turned out to be gray, and nowhere did I find guidelines as to what color it should be. So I'll do, according to WNW Albatros DV Manferd. If you have any ideas, I will gladly accept them. And here is the effect plus the AK-set paint test.
(https://i.imgur.com/hEzDY91.jpg)
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Looks stunning with the primer! The PE stitches really look awesome!
RAGIII
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Thank you very much, the foundation is the first Stynylrez gray and Tamiya XF-2 on it, now I will be pre-shading. What imitation binding is too scaled for me. Large PE adhesives on Micro Kristal Klear, and small ones on cyanoacryl.
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Hello,
In anticipation of the paint, I painted
wood propeller for the first time. And I have a question, is it ok or paint again?
(https://i.imgur.com/Y1nC6gb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FpToYFt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tZGwi9f.jpg)
One more thing, I found a picture of Fokker which deviates from the painting scheme given by Montex, and I will do the painting from the photo. The reason is very poor montex masks and I have decals with early crosses.
(https://i.imgur.com/qHB1k6S.jpg)
And I made the engine cover and painted
(https://i.imgur.com/BAyyizs.jpg)
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Personally I think the prop looks terrific! Nice job on painting the cowling and eyes!
RAGIII
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Good paint job on the prop and cowling. The cowling could use a shinier finish?
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Great looking build, really like your enhancements and painting.
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Good paint job on the prop and cowling. The cowling could use a shinier finish?
Hello,
Of course, it will be varnished in the final phase after the hull installation.
Now I tire of Spadndau from Eduard ;D, effects soon.
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The prop looks great! well done. Regards, Pete in RI
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That prp and cowling look fine to me - in fact the prop looks like real wood so leave well alone. The whole model is really taking shape and will be a worthy addition to any collection when it is completed.
Stepphen.
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I will do that too. I leave the propeller so, I only slightly overshadow it because it seems slightly too bright when looking at the pictures. The paints have arrived. Weekend painting.
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Agree with the others , prop and cowl are most excellent . Nice work with the use of pencil crayons for the lamanations :)
Terri
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Nice progress!!
Steve
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Hello,
The works are moving forward, I gave up a little stop bulding, ;)but I think that I will catch up soon.
(https://i.imgur.com/U5udFow.jpg)
And what awaits me, and a few will come. ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/tQfr7jk.jpg)
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Your DR1 is really coming along quite well! The under surface and tail plane painting is terrific!
RAGIII
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Hello,
I had to slow down a bit due to the multitude of professional duties and homework.
I did a camouflage sample and I have questions.
Do the colors match or do you need to use darker, stripes and color transitions are ok? And most importantly, how much time can Abteilung paints dry? I've never painted with pure oils. Do not pay attention to lichen fingerprints :P, I check if it has dried up. Painted on a Thursday afternoon. :)
(https://i.imgur.com/C1yZBgT.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wXWHUGW.jpg)
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It looks as though you have the basics of the method under control. From here I would look at photos and see if you think your results bear a resemblance to what you see on the original? For instance, is their clear doped linen that shows through the olive color? Again I think yours looks great.
RAGIII
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RAGIII,
Thank you for the hints, but the colors I used are too vivid. This is the case of dealing with tanks during modulations and not paying much attention to the quality of the surface, where all the imperfections could be hidden under pigments, filters, etc. where the colors darken significantly after such operations.
Time wondering how much time Abteilung dries. Works will go quickly when I test it.
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Try looking through this thread,
(If you haven't already) Lots of good ideas from a variety of Modelers. Also a wide variety of color interpretations 8)
RAGIII
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=3533.0
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Hello,
Work is progressing.
The first main color already applied. Tomorrow light shading a little darker.
Strange that the pictures show different colors and in fact they are the same. Maybe because the pictures taken are a telephone.
(https://i.imgur.com/3v7bDwg.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jBqVJPz.jpg)
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The streaking is taking shape nicely! Looking forward to the next step!
RAGIII
PS: Looking again the upper cowling deck should be solid Olive and Not streaked Like the fabric areas. It is your choice if it is worth correcting of course. I Hope this Helps.
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Looking really nice so far , but rib tapes on the axle wing ?
Terri
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Hi all
Thank you for your interest and your tips and suggestions.
They helped me make the right decisions. Overall, the model is very tactile and irritating, but it must be done. Improved painting of the upper cover only the one above the fuel tank. I had to improve the painting of the axle wing from above and I still have to paint from below. The colors seem appropriate to me and I will not change it anymore. Soon I will put pictures with 4 colors that I came up with on the upper surfaces.
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Looking forward to your up-date :)
Terri
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Hello,
Promised pictures. Judge for yourself. I personally like the test model. The colors may be a little vivid but darken when I use the filters.
(https://i.imgur.com/us052dL.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SFEAHk1.jpg)
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Excellent results on a scheme I Love!
RAGIII
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Nice , very nice indeed , excellent results !
Terri
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A very colorful scheme as you have interpreted it. The streaked camo scheme is a difficult one.
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Hi, interpretation is in my case suggesting Aviattic decals and Fokker diagrams from the 1/48 scale eduard instructions. Mostly diagrams from Eduard's instructions.
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Hello,
There is still not enough time, however, the work is done. Recently, Fokker gave me a hard time but I'm trying to finish. Roden's first and last.
(https://i.imgur.com/nUtfUzj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1wPDTQp.jpg)
Try-in for main assembly
(https://i.imgur.com/yTHL8BA.jpg)
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Looking great! I really love the scheme as I have said before.
RAGIII
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That is a beauty. Very colorful scheme.
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Looking very sharp indeed !
Terri
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Just catching up with this log. Love the colour scheme and it is very well rendered. Looking forward to more!
Cheers
Alistair
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I think it all looks great.
When Roden gave you a hard time...it doesn't show!
Robin :)
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Robin,
Fokker is nearing completion :), I had enough of him even fell and I was about to give up. However, I put it together and I will show it finished tomorrow or Tuesday :D. And now I'm starting to Morane N, painting .... I haven't decided yet maybe RFC or from Russia, I'm studying materials and I'm wondering about the cockpit frame whether to make a round or leave a square frame.
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What I've seen....round tubes. (disclaimer...I'm not an expert) That's a nice little fun job. 8)
I am an expert on dropping almost finished planes though, but I try to forget about that, otherwise I'll never start on something with more than one wing and lots of wires. ;D
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I have missed out on this recently - that is a super colour scheme and I for one would never have guessed that you had problems with this build. Sometimes I think that we are too critical of very minor flaws which nobody else would see when presented with such a striking scheme and very good model as this one is.
Stephen.
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Hello,
As I promised. ;)
After many problems resulting from my mistakes and unforeseen crash, I managed to tire out the replica at least a bit similar to the legendary Fokker DR1.
The biggest problem was not the model itself, but the paints I used very sensitive to all mechanical factors and reacting with the glue, in the form of a filter that does not allow it to dry. That's the way it is with oils.
The model itself, as we say frankly shotrun, is very cumbersome in many aspects of assembly.
Overall, I am satisfied with the effect achieved. So I can show my "Candy Fokker". ;D
(https://i.imgur.com/j2XK1Iz.jpg)
Thank you for your understanding, cheering and in particular for your help.
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=10532.0
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A fine looking, and very colorful Dr.1. Making me wish WNW gets theirs out soon!
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Super Dr. 1.
Stephen.
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Lovely results. You have helped to inspire me to do my last two Roden/Encore kits soon!
RAGIII
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Great results, simply beautiful.
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Very good work, perfect streaking and lots of nice color touches.
Bye,
Manni