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Title: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Suffolk Lad on July 26, 2019, 08:26:22 AM
Just appeared on Hannants website tonight - WNW announce new Hannover CII early.  There's an image of the box art but nothing as yet on WNW site - more good news  :)

Tug
Title: Another new WNW release?
Post by: James on July 26, 2019, 08:45:31 AM
Here it is...

http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/FEBCCE62414649AE0263F494A9A819B6
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: RAGIII on July 26, 2019, 08:58:25 AM
Nice to see a version of the Hannover available again. How does the early model differ from the first release by WNW?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Alexis on July 26, 2019, 09:15:29 AM
Cool , still have Eduards in the stash but I'm thinking 32 scale would be better .

Rick off the top of my head ...different engine and the early also had verticle struts on the tail plane and something about the gun ring (shape perhaps ) , lovers few more small differences . But nothing major .



Terri
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Dave W on July 26, 2019, 09:22:02 AM
Here's the box art

(https://i.postimg.cc/HnQpMHgw/CL-II-box-art.jpg)

The full downloadable instructions are also available at the Wingnuts site.

Dave Wilson
Gold Coast
Australia
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Juan on July 26, 2019, 10:22:20 AM
Nice to see this one back in the lineup.  Early Christmas release?  I wonder what else is in store for us this year.

Comparing what's included in the box, the only difference in he two kit boxing's is the decals.
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Syd Solo on July 26, 2019, 04:00:46 PM
Love that box art!

Cheers

Syd
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Ryan on July 26, 2019, 10:26:01 PM
Nice to see this one back in the lineup.  Early Christmas release?  I wonder what else is in store for us this year.

Comparing what's included in the box, the only difference in he two kit boxing's is the decals.

The 0/400 and Lancaster kits at least.
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: coyotemagic on July 27, 2019, 04:41:52 AM
One significant difference between the two, as far as I can see, is that this one is available and the other is not.
Cheers,
Bud

PS- Hey, Richard!  How about some new lozenge sets!
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: RAGIII on July 27, 2019, 05:21:55 AM
One significant difference between the two, as far as I can see, is that this one is available and the other is not.
Cheers,
Bud

PS- Hey, Richard!  How about some new lozenge sets!


 ;D
RAGIII
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Captain Slower on July 28, 2019, 12:24:19 AM
I like the fact that the box art shows the subject escorting an Albatros C.VII or C.X
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Pup7309 on July 28, 2019, 01:03:43 PM
As mentioned the main difference seems to be the upgraded lozenge decals. Someone say Albatros DVII? Is this like the F33 on the Gotha box - a hint of things to come?
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: aliluke on July 28, 2019, 01:07:08 PM
Darn I've just done a Hannover! Can't see me doing another...but they are very elegant aircraft and I highly recommend. I'm now waiting - sacrilege!!! - for Wingnut to stray into the Golden Age and do some flyers from the Schneinder Trophy, Thompson Trophy, Bendix etc. Just a dream but a wealth of georgeous airplanes that I'd buy and build in the blink of an eye.

Cheers
A
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: aliluke on July 28, 2019, 01:18:38 PM
Just had a closer look at this - I can't tell any difference between the previous kit and this one - and I know the previous one intimately. It also had vertical struts on the tail planes for some versions. So effectively a re-release with new decals for alternative schemes. Nothing wrong with that as it is a very cool plane and the previous version is long since sold out...

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: rhwinter on July 28, 2019, 05:10:49 PM
WnW's first Hannover was the first WnW kit ever I bought. I did not dare 1/32th scale, before, but as the Hannover (as well as the Roland C.II) are my boyhood-heroes, I ordered the Hannover as soon as I saw it (same with WnW's Roland C.II - the moment I saw it...). Now, for the actual re-release of the Hannover, I really like some of the schemes that come with it, but I'll probably wait, until WnW release a Cl.IIIa... There are SO MANY tempting kits, WnW are releasing at the moment - hard to cope with that (says my wallet..)!
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Juan on July 28, 2019, 11:01:12 PM
I like the fact that the box art shows the subject escorting an Albatros C.VII or C.X

Hopefully a future release?    ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Jeff K on July 29, 2019, 01:10:45 AM
... I'll probably wait, until WnW release a Cl.IIIa...
THIS

Quote
There are SO MANY tempting kits, WnW are releasing at the moment - hard to cope with that (says my wallet..)!
and this.
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: PrzemoL on July 31, 2019, 07:59:34 PM
New boxing, old content. Still, I do not complain, provided they also keep releasing new tool kits, as Gotha G.I in parallel to Hannover rebox.  :D

And I am still glad with this new release, especially for those who might have missed the first Hannover. It is a great kit of an interesting aircraft. In this sense I also welcome this release even though I have no plans to get it.

What may be of interest, though, is if the rebox will contain sprues from the original manufacture, which might have been hidden in a vault somewhere in NZ for a couple of years, or will they be manufactured newly. It is not an irrelevant question, if you contemplate the fact, that (from my observations of Halberstadt and Gotha G.I contents) there is a regrettable decrease of quality - very evident if one compares the particular Gotha sprues with the older ones with Benz Bz.III engines, or in the Duellist boxing - the new Halberstadt ones with the Mercedes engine one or with the oldie RE.8 ones.
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Mike Norris on July 31, 2019, 11:21:30 PM
Yes it seems WNW are continuing to re-release OOP models with minor changes.
The to be released Sopwith Pup is effectively a re-release but with a different engine and decals.
This Hannover is, when you compare the instruction manuals, the same as the previous release, but with just colour scheme and decal changes.
The Fokker D.VII early has mostly common sprues to the earlier single type releases.
Other OOP models have been re-released a dual kits.

I will always build WNW kits as they amongst the best around, but personally I think more 'new' models, rather than releasing previous or minor modified models, would be much better, even if we had to wait longer for a release.
It does seem to fly in the face of WNW previous comments, in that they didn't intend to re-release OOP models,

Mike
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Jeff K on August 01, 2019, 11:24:23 AM
the problem with being disappointed with rereleases is that new releases are VERY expensive and time consuming to develop. they're already cranking out a LOT of new releases, some of which are VERY ambitious (though i'm still waiting for my Ilya Mouromets). if you weigh the costs of development, it's highly unlikely repops mean they're releasing FEWER new kits.

repops are useful. addressing Przemol's question they almost certainly are repops rather than stashed sprues, renting additional warehouse space to create a false scarcity can get expensive.

they do a couple of things. for modellers, those late to the party can get in on it, and those who get an idea for a project after a kit's sold out can scratch that itch. for WNW (or any manufacturer) the threat of selling out makes buying that kit more urgent, but repops mean you can sell more (and thus fund the elaborate new development projects like the Bloody Paralyzer and Lancaster).

they've also said all along (i wasn't there at the beginning but i read old interviews) that they'd reissue things but not in the same form, so don't expect to see the same scheme again. from everything i've seen the only real deviation from their original vision is the Lancaster, and that one makes sense given Sir PJ's dambusters obsession.

if a repop sells well it's likely to be highly profitable (especially compared to the initial run which had to pay off it's development costs). it's highly likely given that WNW is for the most part a passion project, that money gets reinvested in developing new stuff. i expect repops mean more R&D budget, and thus are great news for modellers who don't care about the repop and are hoping for truly new releases, too.

as an added bonus, every repop is a kick in the delicate bits for ebay speculators asking extortionate prices.

roll on reboxings!
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: Mike Norris on August 01, 2019, 07:16:26 PM
Hi Jeff,
You make valid points and I agree re-releases, in whatever form, will boost R&D for future, 'new' models.
As you say, it gives those that missed out the first time around the chance to go for a particular model and not get ripped off by other sellers.
As for me I'm passionate about WNW models and have one of every type released and will build them all, if I live long enough that is.
To that end, I'm not that interested in re-releases, in whatever form.
I guess if there is a continuing market for OOP models then it makes good business sense for WNW to re-release them.

Mike 
Title: Re: Another new WNW release?
Post by: poshboy on August 03, 2019, 03:19:24 PM
im glad to see this release as I missed it first time around,the same goes for the pup and I don't think im the only one. :)