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Title: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on June 28, 2019, 12:56:16 AM: Hello all,

Finally got round to starting another lovely Wingnut’s kit. One I’ve been hoping to build for ages - the ‘Ninak’

This is a very impressive kit in the box! Crammed full of plastic, stickers, instructions, PE and general loveliness :) the post war version has quite a lot of added detail from the early DH.9. Radiator/ Slats/ under slung wheel etc. It looks so draggy and heavy with all the extra equipment and the cats cradle of rigging (Bob, help).

(https://i.postimg.cc/MK8YffFn/9-F06-F527-3-BC7-4-BEB-82-D9-0-F1-CC08-AD31-E.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I have however, got another kit in the post (should have been here last week) that I’m going to have to prioritise as it’s for the magazine - The new 1/24 Hellcat. But I couldn’t resist starting this one - I thought if I could at least get the oils done for the wood work, it could thoroughly dry whilst I’m building something else.

Here are the principal internal parts just cleaned up:

(https://i.postimg.cc/v84KtnhX/E903282-A-11-C8-4-D53-9-FCC-42-D3-A2081-C72.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9zj1Wrvq)

Im toying with these 3 colour options from the beautiful Pheon Decals offerings, but I would like to get masks made (anyone have anyone they’d recommend to get custom masks done?).

Hope I’m ok posting these here Rowan? I’ll remove them if not.

Two very colourful ones:

(https://i.postimg.cc/4dDQ5Y4F/C293-E427-4-FC7-494-B-B935-9-E432-AD3686-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/k6ySMXbx)

A nice standard silver doped finish:

(https://i.postimg.cc/KjtrsmRc/250825-D9-2-B0-E-481-B-A2-D0-B7-CF3907-E8-E2.png) (https://postimg.cc/K3vM1SPC)

Or unless anyone has any other interesting post war schemes they could share?

Thanks

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: RAGIII on June 28, 2019, 01:35:37 AM: Nice start and all 3 are interesting schemes. Have Fun!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Ryan on June 28, 2019, 01:47:55 AM: NOW we are talking, great Guy!

I really like the Silver Dope scheme.

Waiting for updates sir.

Ryan
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Juan on June 28, 2019, 03:19:29 AM: Quote from: RAGIII on June 28, 2019, 01:35:37 AM
Nice start and all 3 are interesting schemes. Have Fun!
RAGIII

Agree with Rick, all the best with this one and that big Hellcat.
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: coyotemagic on June 28, 2019, 03:52:18 AM: Great choice, Guy! Of all the models I've built in all scales, the Ninak is my favorite and the most enjoyable. You're gonna love it! I favor the aluminum doped scheme, personally.
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: lone modeller on June 28, 2019, 04:46:18 AM: That looks really good Guy. I think that any of those schemes illustrated would be good - spoilt for choice!

Stephen.
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on June 28, 2019, 07:00:09 AM: Rick, thanks, will do :)

Ryan, yep I think the silver scheme is probably the best, won’t be up to your high standards though!

Thanks Juan, the Hellcat just arrived and it’s a beast, 600 parts and 310 sub-sections in the instructions! :o

Thanks Bud, yes, I can see it’s going to be lovely, I wish I could crack on with it to be honest, Aluminium it is ;)

Thanks Stephen, the Pheon sheet looks cracking!

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Ryan on June 28, 2019, 07:32:24 AM: Quote from: Gisbod on June 28, 2019, 07:00:09 AM
Rick, thanks, will do :)

Ryan, yep I think the silver scheme is probably the best, won’t be up to your high standards though!

Thanks Juan, the Hellcat just arrived and it’s a beast, 600 parts and 310 sub-sections in the instructions! :o

Thanks Bud, yes, I can see it’s going to be lovely, I wish I could crack on with it to be honest, Aluminium it is ;)

Thanks Stephen, the Pheon sheet looks cracking!

Guy

Guy where is the Hellcat thread if there is one?
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Bughunter on June 28, 2019, 07:57:03 AM: Yeah, a Hellcat thread would be nice!
And here the read one with the extra spoked wheel is nice too!

Be careful and not try to mix Hellcat with Ninak parts, this will not work because of different scale ;D ;D 8)

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on June 28, 2019, 04:47:07 PM: Quote from: Ryan on June 28, 2019, 07:32:24 AM

Guy where is the Hellcat thread if there is one?

Morning Ryan, I haven’t started yet- give me a chance! ;D it only arrived yesterday. Don’t know, probably Large Scale Planes? I’ll let you know.

Quote from: Bughunter on June 28, 2019, 07:57:03 AM

Be careful and not try to mix Hellcat with Ninak parts, this will not work because of different scale ;D ;D 8)

Cheers,
Frank

;D Good point Frank... I was hoping to make a folded wing Ninak!

Initial thoughts - large and impressive - but not quite Wingnuts quality

Here’s an update, maybe the last before the break! The first one is a light under coat of MRP Doped Linen and pre shaded prior to the oils. Looks a bit of a mess but won’t later (hopefully):

(https://i.postimg.cc/RC2Ds0bm/D0701-E95-FE47-4-FD0-B017-024309601-BC7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/14cB4yQ7)

And here’s post oils - still at the early stage before any washes and detail painting. I haven’t gone too big on ‘grain’ as I don’t think you’d really see it in this scale anyway... just trying to achieve a simple, clean look at this point:

(https://i.postimg.cc/kDrKxzsr/F04-FE464-0-FAC-448-F-8339-43-CEEB99-B6-B1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSTZP64L)

Here’s the fairly blank canvas of the IP:

(https://i.postimg.cc/QtXZrF0B/42264536-5721-4250-8-F78-D92-D35595-A52.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/671mrpsw)

Here’s a sneak preview of the Hellcat!

(https://i.postimg.cc/zfr9nLmd/610-A5-D2-D-F5-B6-47-BE-96-EF-69-DF4-F5-FDC3-D.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3ktShxxp)

Stressed skin:

(https://i.postimg.cc/509TRZ2L/C0-A07-AA0-61-B5-44-A9-8449-AD475-BC7-A7-FC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DWDxWpsw)

Thanks for looking in!

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on June 28, 2019, 05:50:49 PM: Btw,

What are your thoughts on using Tamiya clear orange/ yellow over oil finishes? I have used them before but I’d be interested in your opinions?

Guy

Ps Ryan & Frank - you need to get new Avatars!
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: FokkerFodder on June 28, 2019, 06:24:31 PM: I think they add depth and warmth to the wood tones. Ps what paint did you use for the leather? Cheers Matt
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on June 28, 2019, 06:46:56 PM: Hi Matt,

Thanks, I might mix some in with the gloss coat - I want minimal coats if poss.

I use artists oils - basically 4 colours

Raw Sienna
Burnt Umber
White
Red

I just mix according to eye for different areas - the leather has a blob of red added.

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Ryan on June 28, 2019, 08:40:22 PM: Hey Guy,

When I was doing grain I used a 50/50 mix (clear yellow/ orange). As you remark it’s another layer of paint.
One plus is that it is glossy, so it will accept a wash. This is fine for an overall wood part but if there are other features on the piece that complicates things as you are faced to detail paint over the mix and then if using a wash you will need to shoot another clear adding another layer of paint.

And if you flat it all out you’ve used another layer of paint and killed the effect the mix gives you.

Now where did I place my straight jacket?
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Ryan on June 28, 2019, 10:28:03 PM: Avatar changed Guy, I will yield to Frank since I am the new guy around here. ;D

Ryan
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on June 29, 2019, 12:35:24 AM: Quote from: Ryan on June 28, 2019, 10:28:03 PM
Avatar changed Guy, I will yield to Frank since I am the new guy around here. ;D

Ryan

;D Well done Ryan! Your handsome mugshot will be thoroughly appreciated by the ladies on the forum, I’m sure ;)

Yes, the conundrums of modelling ??? I’ll probably just add a splash of clear orange/ yellow to the gloss layer and fudge it as I normally do!

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Ryan on June 29, 2019, 01:24:58 AM: The Ninak is in good hands.
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Bughunter on June 29, 2019, 03:21:44 AM: Both big birds will look nice, I'm sure!
I often also use both clear yellow and orange. Orange alone may get to dark, and yellow to pale.

Thanks Ryan :-*

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on June 29, 2019, 03:39:59 AM: Thanks Frank ;)

Here’s a link to the Hellcat build:

https://forum.largescaleplanes.com/index.php?/topic/81019-124-airfix-f6f-5-hellcat/

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: gedmundson on July 04, 2019, 06:04:31 AM: Looking forward to following your build, Guy. I remember your Bristol F2b and how well that looked when done - I'm sure we're all in for a visual treat with this one. I agree with Bud - the aluminium scheme is nice. From what people say this DH.9a is a great kit, so I'll be taking notes on yours as I plan my build in the future (WW1 version).
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: eclarson on August 28, 2019, 12:42:57 PM: Hi Guy, You're off to a great start. The cockpit looks superb. I'm about to start one of these myself, also with Pheon decals, and have chosen the blue "JAN" scheme.
I really like the aluminum doped one you've chosen as well so I know it will be a real beauty when completed.

Cheers,
Eric
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Mike Norris on August 28, 2019, 05:40:21 PM: Guy,
For masks contact 'Lisa' here in the UK (Doncaster)

"The Crafting Well"

https://www.ebay.co.uk/str/thecraftingwell

https://www.facebook.com/pg/thecraftingwell/posts/

Mike
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: RAGIII on August 28, 2019, 10:42:05 PM: Somehow missed your update. The interior is looking excellent. Very nice work with the oils!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 03, 2019, 06:10:23 AM: Thank you guys :)

So, now the Hellcat is all done and dusted, I can turn my attention back to the rather lovely DH9.a ;)

I’d ordered a set of HGW belts last week thinking I’d have them in a day or two (via eBay) but hadn’t realised I’d got them direct from HGW in the Czech Republic. So, basically, they aren’t here yet... :(

So I’ve pressed on with the engine over the last couple of days. I was, initially, not going to bother doing anything with it as I’d planned it to be under the ‘hood’ but the Liberty is so nice, I couldn’t resist making, at least, a minor effort to spruce it up!

As always, it looks a bit of a state under the glare of macro photography :P but looks rather nice to the (my) naked eye!

Guy

Ps I’ve got a fabulous set of paint masks markings from a very kind forum member :D (The Silver Doped Scheme on Page 1 of this thread).

(https://i.postimg.cc/jqgKBy6g/12290230-60-D9-4-AA9-90-DC-57460-C0-B0-CBA.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0d1dBMp)

(https://i.postimg.cc/VLJ1w5DY/A6-B3-B628-ADEB-42-E0-A169-9-D6-B91-EEE836.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Xp6tcjRh)
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: gedmundson on September 03, 2019, 08:12:37 AM: Wow - amazing work on your engine. A work of art in itself. I especially like the weathering.
Cheers,
Gary
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: kensar on September 03, 2019, 09:38:52 PM: Great looking engine - nice weathering. I'm looking forward to seeing this paint scheme.
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 03, 2019, 09:53:48 PM: Looking great, Guy 8)

Cheers,
Bob
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: RAGIII on September 03, 2019, 10:06:54 PM: Stunning engine work Guy!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Ryan on September 03, 2019, 10:16:24 PM: Splendid Guy.

Ryan
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 04, 2019, 03:36:21 AM: Ah thanks!

More updates soon hopefully...

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 04, 2019, 06:35:47 AM: Evening all,

The cockpit is pretty much complete, I’m still waiting on the seat belts before I can progress further, but thought I’d share where I’m currently at. It wasn’t until I’d finished it that I realised I’d used the wrong instrument panel! I’ve used the war time one (not the post war updated version..) I think I just saw the IP on the sprue and didn’t imagine there was an option! But, I won’t lose any sleep on that and I’m too lazy to re visit :P

(https://i.postimg.cc/RF9W5d4J/0-EC06-E3-E-7727-49-A9-8-CE2-BD4-E9-F8-CDC72.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QB48cpBj)

(https://i.postimg.cc/d0GhxpPK/88-B49-A07-A33-E-4-A2-E-AE94-8-B68476-A1-F49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CZLMZvxv)

(https://i.postimg.cc/L8cqvRWT/C9-C404-CD-C4-D7-481-B-9591-5-D9-F8-EFAF910.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nX1ch8pj)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Dw8sBxw2/A669575-D-A869-42-C5-B6-AE-E30554-CB067-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3kQdwCG6)

Thanks for looking in,

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: FAf on September 04, 2019, 06:41:44 AM: Excellent machinery there! I am eagerly looking forward to you using the masks. /Fredrik
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 04, 2019, 06:51:37 AM: Ah thanks Fredrik!

As I am too! Welcome to the Forum :D

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: RAGIII on September 04, 2019, 07:36:27 AM: The interior looks stunning and I don't think Many will Notice the early IP... I know I wouldn't ::)
RAGIII
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: lcarroll on September 04, 2019, 07:47:01 AM: Really impressive work Guy, great engine and woodwork, beautiful panel, and really appealing leather. Another "stunner' from your very productive shop!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: coyotemagic on September 04, 2019, 09:19:37 AM: Stunning work all 'round, Guy! The engine and innards are phenomenal! Hope to see her (and you) at Telford!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Manni on September 04, 2019, 02:54:48 PM: Beautiful interieur, Guy. The engine looks very realistic and the wireing is outstanding. The wood tones of the cockpit and the subtile highliting of the parts are great.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 04, 2019, 05:52:02 PM: Rick, Lance, Bud & Manni,

Praise indeed from the forum elders! :) Don’t worry, plenty of time to c*** it up... :P

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: kensar on September 04, 2019, 09:29:56 PM: I wouldn't worry about the IP - it's just a holdover from the war.
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 04, 2019, 09:59:01 PM: Beautifully executed Guy 8)
I love the warm tone of the wood and the IP is a thing of magic.

Marvellous!

von B :)
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Ryan on September 04, 2019, 10:19:40 PM: Your one of the best Guy, very consisitant quality.

Ryan
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 05, 2019, 04:48:58 AM: Thanks :)

All closed up now. I was uber careful putting it together as there are so many components to marry up. All went well though... Phew. The fit was perfect as you would expect from a Wingnut’s kit - I wasn’t worried about that - just my errors/ paint etc.

Guy

Final pic before closing up:

(https://i.postimg.cc/rpXGVB9s/52456-CA0-102-F-4-C27-B466-FCCA6-FDA56-A2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/nX29Twgf)

(https://i.postimg.cc/Nfn7V991/1-B159931-4897-4-D30-8-AA5-01-E9-D4-C5018-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/dL8yZ091)

(https://i.postimg.cc/sDx4w9Xj/619371-E5-4-F77-48-D4-9807-C39-A4-AD3-E600.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PPGDqDY9)

(https://i.postimg.cc/44B16FX2/764-E853-F-41-BF-4883-BF66-C7463043732-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SjY8qd2c)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RZnQzSK2/DC69-CC38-C672-4-F21-83-F7-3-DB0-E0-C319-E1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZW4y8hfL)
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: RAGIII on September 05, 2019, 06:24:42 AM: All I can say is SUPERB!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Alexis on September 05, 2019, 11:35:42 AM: Very nice clean work !

Terri
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: FAf on September 05, 2019, 05:30:37 PM: Fantastic work, as stated by others! I'm not sure what impressed me most, your modelling skills or your speed?!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: aliluke on September 05, 2019, 05:44:23 PM: Stunning work as always Guy. I'm tempted by this plane now.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 08, 2019, 12:44:57 AM: Thanks Terri, Rick, Fredrik ;)

Thanks Alistair, yep, it’s Wingnut’s at their best, that’s for sure...

It’s taken me ages to get all the many bits & pieces ready for paint. It’s got more bits hanging off it than a rag & bone man’s cart :P

How it flew with all that weight & drag is beyond me.

Don’t worry about the wonky struts - just placed there for the mo.

Guy

(https://i.postimg.cc/hPCsww96/68-E57651-C54-B-43-C7-9-BAF-F58-CCBB08-A66.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/3dv20tfF)

(https://i.postimg.cc/gkc4gd63/73-FD4069-7424-4-CAC-A68-C-17-DD82-FDD9-CE.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXhwvRLv)
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: RAGIII on September 08, 2019, 08:09:36 AM: Looks great all together...more or less 8) Always a satisfying point in the build, at least for me!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: kensar on September 08, 2019, 09:22:05 AM: Progress! - looking good.
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 09, 2019, 08:09:09 PM: Thanks Ken & Rick :)

Paint on... Mr. Color 1500 grey surfacer followed by a Tamiya mix of grey & aluminium. I think the masks up next.

Guy

(https://i.postimg.cc/Bv76rQRF/1978475-A-799-B-461-A-9-B52-4-F5-EC9-BD66-CC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XZF4F3jN)
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: RAGIII on September 09, 2019, 09:02:16 PM: The Aluminum Dope looks Awesome!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: kensar on September 09, 2019, 09:59:50 PM: "The Aluminum Dope looks Awesome!
RAGIII"

I must agree with Rick - it looks great.
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 09, 2019, 10:21:44 PM: Totally agree. The silver dope looks 'lived in.' Super job!

Did you use the rattle can silver? or the new lacquer based paint?

vB :)
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: FAf on September 09, 2019, 10:47:07 PM: I obviously agree with all the others in their praise!
One question though - the difference between the ribs and the linen on the wings, is that painted or a result from polishing?
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: coyotemagic on September 10, 2019, 03:33:05 AM: Gorgeous paint work, Guy!
Cheers,
Bud
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Bughunter on September 10, 2019, 04:37:35 AM: Your speed is unbelieveable, in the time I cut some parts from a sprue you build a complete aircraft :o
At first the Hellcat, and this bird here see some rigging lines and finished soon?
I like the outcome of your project, the aluminium-grey mix looks great, like already heavily weathered.

Good luck,
Frank
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 10, 2019, 04:50:28 AM: Thanks ;)

Quote from: bobs_buckles on September 09, 2019, 10:21:44 PM

Did you use the rattle can silver? or the new lacquer based paint?

vB :)

Hi Bob, I just mixed Tamiya Grey & Flat Aluminium diluted by Laquer thinners out of the airbrush.

Quote from: FAf on September 09, 2019, 10:47:07 PM

One question though - the difference between the ribs and the linen on the wings, is that painted or a result from polishing?
/Fredrik

I was going to paint the ribs Fredrik but changed my mind. It’s from polishing. Do you think it’s overdone?

I’ve started on the roundels... great masks Fredrik!

Guy

(https://i.postimg.cc/qqC8wc8D/A9-D075-A8-751-A-4569-9467-2-BBFB2611732.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zH8bXg2T)

Ps thanks Frank :)
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 10, 2019, 05:52:49 AM: Quote from: Bughunter on September 10, 2019, 04:37:35 AM
Your speed is unbelieveable, in the time I cut some parts from a sprue you build a complete aircraft :o
At first the Hellcat, and this bird here see some rigging lines and finished soon?

Good luck,
Frank

Ps that’s because you make them properly Frank! :P
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: FAf on September 10, 2019, 05:57:08 AM: Quote from: Gisbod on September 10, 2019, 04:50:28 AM
I was going to paint the ribs Fredrik but changed my mind. It’s from polishing. Do you think it’s overdone?

I’ve started on the roundels... great masks Fredrik!

I'm absolutely not an expert on ribs and painting, but I think it looks great. I also suppose that there will be some additional layers of weathering and possibly a clear cote or two which might tone the effect down, but I don't think it necessary.

Great looking roundels! I was wondering why the red center looked kind of strange, until I saw that there is some sort of wing structure right there. Looks like the masks worked well! I've been zooming like crazy on my phone here and I can't see any gaps between the colours, nor any raised paint edges... You obviously know how to make the best out them! Still a bit uncertain about how the square masks will work... Fingers crossed!
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 10, 2019, 06:25:14 AM: Thanks Fredrik :D

Yes, there’s an inspection port for the aileron control run, which is a bit lumpy!

I haven’t tackled the chequerboard yet, I think I’m subconsciously putting it off!

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: RAGIII on September 10, 2019, 06:42:33 AM: Ribs look great as do the roundels!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Alexis on September 10, 2019, 09:28:15 AM: Making quick work with this one , outstanding so far !

Terri
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 11, 2019, 11:08:55 PM: Thanks Rick and Terri :)

Finished off the masking of the markings and the masks were excellent! Any errors under macro photography entirely mine..

The chequerboard was a little tricky - I had to lift and place each square rather than transfer the lot across, but not as bad as I’d thought..

Guy

(https://i.postimg.cc/BQd8bVwP/5500262-C-F32-B-46-C0-8608-0-F334-F0918-C4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F7VFnDvh)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MZ3f2T7D/80-A8-FBD6-235-F-4-C29-B838-90-E170372-E93.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/c6YLfd5g)

(https://i.postimg.cc/MKcMWSt8/A78-D0445-4-B9-D-4-A39-8524-B7-CFAA90-FF79.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ykHYP2wf)
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Robin on September 12, 2019, 01:42:21 AM: Gorgeous!

I had some catching up to do, but a belated "wow!" goes towards the interior. The wood and leather...amazing!

Robin :)
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: FAf on September 12, 2019, 06:25:08 AM: Yes! That's the way to use paint masks!
The chequerboards turned out great and it was hopefully still easier to use the masks than to mask it using tape...
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: howlindawg on September 12, 2019, 08:14:22 AM: WoW, and I thought your Camel was good. :o
The paintwork on this one is simply stunning.
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Ryan on September 12, 2019, 10:17:36 PM: Yep we are all running in slow motion compared to Guy.
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: RAGIII on September 12, 2019, 10:26:03 PM: Gorgeous painting . You have certainly utilized the Masks to their fullest!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 12, 2019, 10:40:43 PM: Thanks again, enjoying this one, it’s a fab kit - flawless really.

Quote from: Ryan on September 12, 2019, 10:17:36 PM
Yep we are all running in slow motion compared to Guy.

Yep, keep up Ryan! Quantity over quality every time ;D

Rigging bits next :P

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 13, 2019, 12:11:03 AM: As per usual, she is looking mighty fine, Guy. ;)

vB
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Ryan on September 13, 2019, 12:22:49 AM: Quote from: Ryan on September 12, 2019, 10:17:36 PM
Yep we are all running in slow motion compared to Guy.

Yep, keep up Ryan! Quantity over quality every time ;D

Rigging bits next :P

Guy
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Yes you are right, but you clearly have a proven system of production that escapes me!
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: aliluke on September 17, 2019, 06:42:03 PM: Echo... WOW, Wow, wow,wow!!!

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 18, 2019, 04:35:09 AM: Thank you..

Slow progress.. I’ve been away on a work trip, but I did at least take some rigging with me to prepare.

But here’s where I’m at. The wings on this are enormous!

Guy

(https://i.postimg.cc/MZhq3265/D12231-E2-244-E-4-A01-8-B3-D-F4845-CE3163-A.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/z3Ss3QRH)

(https://i.postimg.cc/QNBjqx3V/1056-DC0-C-CD71-4616-86-D1-886612124408.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MXSk6wX8)

(https://i.postimg.cc/qgfbsGdc/7-C0-BEED3-C702-44-D3-A69-B-0-C67-A51-A28-BB.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FkZVm3z1)
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 18, 2019, 05:57:37 AM: Lovely work, Guy!
I wish I could build this fast :o

Dream on...

vB
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Manni on September 18, 2019, 03:28:05 PM: Incredible work, Guy. The Ninak looks really good, lots of details to discover.
Bye,
Manni
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: PrzemoL on September 18, 2019, 05:04:51 PM: Lovely!
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: kensar on September 18, 2019, 09:46:58 PM: That's looking excellent, Guy! The details and the weathering really pull it together.
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: RAGIII on September 19, 2019, 12:48:08 AM: Gorgeous work Guy! Everything is coming together with Fantastic results!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 22, 2019, 04:25:34 AM: Thanks again all,

Really enjoying this build. Just to show you I’m still plodding along.

Trying to get as much done as I can before the top wing goes on...

Guy

(https://i.postimg.cc/02yxgJMG/9-C3-A2228-B657-4-BB5-88-B7-205-F9-FF5-BE2-C.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/6TgFnqhT)
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 22, 2019, 09:55:43 PM: Some final photos before I attempt the top wing attachment.

Last bits of rigging that I can do. Thanks Bob, your buckles are majestic!

Probably the last update before completion.

What a super kit :D it’s as near to perfection as you could ask for. The only thing I’ve struggled on was the tail skid - nothing wrong with it - just a bit fragile and I’ve broken it off twice! I’m leaving it for the final touch now.

Guy

(https://i.postimg.cc/SK4kKMB1/83-B1-B699-37-CF-4-DA3-BBDD-7035082247-D5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fV862JTY)

(https://i.postimg.cc/cLwdZmb8/801-BC744-EF54-4525-BEB5-C9-E7-E9-A333-E9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K1G6DnFZ)

(https://i.postimg.cc/fT6M6FBN/6-E06-A43-C-8-D83-4-BCF-8-BC0-AD13-D96-C2108.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VdWytKxG)
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: RAGIII on September 23, 2019, 12:02:31 AM: The rigging you have done looks outstanding!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: rhwinter on September 23, 2019, 02:50:59 AM: BEAU TI FUL !
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: lcarroll on September 23, 2019, 06:43:13 AM: Quote from: rhwinter on September 23, 2019, 02:50:59 AM
BEAU TI FUL !

+1 !

She's a really stunning critter indeed!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: bobs_buckles on September 23, 2019, 07:19:29 AM: Looking spectacular!

:o

vB
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: FAf on September 23, 2019, 04:44:09 PM: Inspirational, I have to say! Looks like very consistent work - painting, mask usage, rigging, assembly.

I've been dithering about rigging and Gaspatch turnbuckles vs Bob's buckles, you might have tipped the scales in Bob's favour.
/Fredrik
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 24, 2019, 02:39:39 AM: Thanks!

It wasn’t me though - the kit just fell together out of the box ;D

All done now, just taking photos before I break bits off!

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Bughunter on September 24, 2019, 05:01:22 AM: Guy, I can't understand, how do you create that kind of impressive results with your build speed!
You should also be able to build a Eduard Weekend-Edition, something that remains completely closed to me.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 24, 2019, 05:07:48 AM: Frank,

It’s honestly because I just don’t detail to your standards, I wish I had the patience! Mine are pretty much out of the box...

Don’t change yours, they are superb!

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: aliluke on September 24, 2019, 04:14:52 PM: I echo all of the above comments and add the photography is as outstanding as the rendition of the model.

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gene K on September 24, 2019, 10:23:16 PM: Quote from: aliluke on September 24, 2019, 04:14:52 PM
... add the photography is as outstanding as the rendition of the model.

I was just about to say the same -- stunning images.

Gene
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: aliluke on September 25, 2019, 07:11:18 PM: Hi Guy
A wee follow up for a constructive discussion here. It has been talked about before...You use a simulation of turnbuckles on both ends of the same rigging line. In my thoughts you would fix to an eye at one end of a line and use a turnbuckle at the other end. So a turnbuckle at both ends doesn't add up for me. I stand to be corrected but my simple logic has fixed at one end and tensioned at the other?

Cheers
Alistair
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Bughunter on September 26, 2019, 02:12:09 AM: Quote from: aliluke on September 25, 2019, 07:11:18 PM
You use a simulation of turnbuckles on both ends of the same rigging line. In my thoughts you would fix to an eye at one end of a line and use a turnbuckle at the other end. So a turnbuckle at both ends doesn't add up for me. I stand to be corrected but my simple logic has fixed at one end and tensioned at the other?
Alistair, I don't want to criticize Gisbod's build, but if you want to rig a DH.9a correct, there are no turnbuckles at all on many rigging lines.

I just checked some museums pictures, and there are some rigging ropes with turnbuckles, e.g. the ones starting at the front beside the engines.
But the main wing rigging, as often seen on british aircrafts, are done with flat streamlined "RAF wires" without turnbuckles. That's why the WNW manual say on page 16 for the blue rigging to use material of 0.1x0.3mm.
In real a RAF wire was a flat profiled steel rods with thread at the end, mounted in terminals.
Here a picture of the WNW scale documentation (here are additional securing plates visible):
(http://www.wingnutwings.com/ww/v507F2642/www/products/model_kitsets/32007/colour_photos/DH.9a%20F1010%20-%20RAF%20museum%20Hendon%20UK.%20Wing%20detail%20(4).jpg)

So I think Guy wanted to show the terminals by this brass pipes, but in my opinion the rigging material should be more wide as the recommended size.

Sorry Guy, do not want to hijack your thread!

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Gisbod on September 26, 2019, 07:36:26 AM: Not at all Frank,

My rigging is only meant to represent an impression of rigging rather than be technically correct. If I could do flat rigging I would but I can’t think of how to represent it correctly or what to use. Bob’s buckles just work for me! They also have the advantage of acting as real rigging and add tension and strength to the structure.

I’ve yet to see a build with flat rigging done well, but I’d love to see and hear of other methods..

Guy
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Juan on September 26, 2019, 07:57:52 AM: Your canvass, your art, and beautiful it is Guy.
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: calumet on September 27, 2019, 07:11:37 AM: This is one very fine Ninak!!

Cheers
Hans
Title: Re: Postwar DH.9a ‘Ninak’
Post by: Dave in Dubai on September 27, 2019, 04:09:19 PM: Guy,

You can get a white metal replacement tail-skid part from Scale Aircraft Conversions for the DH-9, it is a wee bit stronger than the kit part and is a drop in fit.

Cheers

Dave