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Title: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 18, 2019, 08:40:41 PM
Besides my chief interest in WW1 aviation I am also interested in beginning of Polish wings in post WW1 years. This includes the history of Puck Naval Air Base. I am still waiting for the WNW to release FF.33 or FF.49 which I could build in Polish colours. And in this waiting time I decided to go with this side project - a model of the aircraft from 1935 - Lublin R.XIIIG, to be finished as one example - white 714, from the third series of float planes coming  from Lublin factory to Puck naval unit.

(https://i.ibb.co/j4mcG9K/lub13-0a.jpg)


Over one year ago Lukgraph released this lovely resin kit in 1/32 which I got on preorder. Now it is finally the time for it!

(https://i.ibb.co/fvsvJqB/lub13-0b.jpg)


So here is my start - with the beaching gear...

(https://i.ibb.co/fC69gkz/lub13-31.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/fDY0PWq/lub13-32.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/vj9kQRN/lub13-33.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/jR3Vm7Y/lub13-34.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/B3j7LHX/lub13-35.jpg)


... and the floats

(https://i.ibb.co/LJsZpYt/lub13-36.jpg)
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: gbrivio on May 18, 2019, 09:17:39 PM
Fascinating subject, the interwar era is often neglected but offers a lot of great, innovative for thei times machines.
Ciao
Giuseppe
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 18, 2019, 09:50:20 PM
Looks like a great kit. I will be following along!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Juan on May 19, 2019, 01:09:32 AM
Interesting subject P, looks like a great choice.   :D
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Thumbs up on May 19, 2019, 02:43:19 AM
Great subject Prez! Love your builds.I would dearly like Lukgraphs 1/72 Albatros C111 but at £70 a pop,I think not!
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Gisbod on May 19, 2019, 06:55:18 AM
Lovely unusual subject Prze,

Can’t wait to see what you do with this...

Guy
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on May 19, 2019, 08:03:03 AM
Thank you, I am happy to see some interest in this off-topic build.

Here is some work done on the wheels for the beaching trolleys.

(https://i.ibb.co/QM0t5gg/lub13-38.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/LSdpbnz/lub13-37.jpg)
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: kensar on May 19, 2019, 09:29:51 PM
I was interested in seeing one of these Lukgraph kits being put together.  Looks like a good kit and I'm sure you will bring out the best in it.
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: lcarroll on May 19, 2019, 11:44:28 PM
Przmo,
    That's a really interesting Kit, the aircraft (new to me) has the classic lines so typical of the "between the wars" era that I really admire. I have a couple of 1:32 Kits from that era including an older Williams Brothers release that I acquired for "something different" to get a change of pace on the work bench. I'll be looking forward to following your progress on this one.
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Rob Hart on May 20, 2019, 12:15:29 PM
I'm looking forward to following this build.
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: dr 1 ace on May 21, 2019, 10:47:04 AM
Regardless of scale, your work is always amazing !

Ed
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on May 21, 2019, 11:16:58 PM
The detail on the wheels is amazing as is your work on the PE spokes!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 07, 2019, 06:57:58 AM
Some progress.
Floats assembled, joints filled, sanded, bubble holes on the bottom side filled, The cross bars fitted.
Wheels assembled.
Beching trolleys under construction but main bodies done - have the gaps filled, sanded and bubbles filled.
Float struts cleaned, holes filled.
Work on fuselage halves started - the bottom joint will require substantial filling.
The bubble holes are being filled with pieces of round plastic profile - much more effective than pouring the glue into them.


(https://i.ibb.co/CVGn5Lg/lub13-39.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/QfG4zPz/lub13-40.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/r0pDJ6Y/lub13-41.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/X2Tk8xH/lub13-42.jpg)(https://i.ibb.co/ZdbBpbQ/lub13-43.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/J2SnXRp/lub13-44.jpg)
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on June 07, 2019, 10:32:49 PM
Outstanding work on all Przemo! Are the pins molded in the struts or is that an addition you made?
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 07, 2019, 10:41:53 PM
Thank you Rick.
In this kit all the struts are reinforced with wire, which ends are popping out at the tips. You can trim them with simple razor-saw if you deem them too long.
In the photos at some spots you can see through the semi-transparent resin and glimpse the wire inside the elements.
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: kensar on June 10, 2019, 09:51:51 PM
The molded-in wire is a nice feature.
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Borsos on June 11, 2019, 02:13:17 AM
Looks like a lovely plane. And it will turn into a wonderful model in your hands!
Andreas
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 17, 2019, 03:34:57 AM
More preparations...

Trolleys assembled and finally ready for paint (wheels just put on dry for show, will be removed for airbrushing)

(https://i.ibb.co/5TvM7L4/lub13-45.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/r5W5nqF/lub13-46.jpg)


Floats armed with numerous PE fittings

(https://i.ibb.co/rffH0NB/lub13-47.jpg)


Interior bits required long sessions of cleaning, bubble-filling, sanding...

(https://i.ibb.co/CQTMfvZ/lub13-48.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/yP6CJJY/lub13-49.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/QQ5YYk7/lub13-50.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/tJhDWL5/lub13-51.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/swy2078/lub13-52.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/fp70m4w/lub13-53.jpg)

The time comes for colours, at last
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: kensar on June 17, 2019, 09:19:10 AM
All the time you spend fixing and prepping these things will pay off in the future.
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 21, 2019, 07:08:01 AM
I hope, you are right Porsche...

And here is a report on some more tedious work.

The internal truss is assembled with the joints CA-filled and sanded, holes for rigging eyelets drilled in the quadrilateral fields.

(https://i.ibb.co/StKCWz0/lub13-54.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/6nRM5Qp/lub13-55.jpg)


And the work on the wing started. Numerous bubble holes filled with bits of white plastic profile. The joint with the small centre piece - filled with CA and sanded - this three times already and still requiring some touch-ups.

(https://i.ibb.co/YLTkWrw/lub13-56.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/NYjPwn4/lub13-57.jpg)


And here is a shot to show the size of this aircraft - comparison with a spare WNW Pfalz D.IIIa lower wing.

(https://i.ibb.co/T4KqCDv/lub13-58.jpg)
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on June 21, 2019, 08:08:50 AM
Details and main wings are looking great! I like your comparison photo. This is a large aircraft!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Gene K on June 21, 2019, 11:02:46 AM
...  holes for rigging eyelets drilled in the quadrilateral fields.

Beautiful workmanship!

"A friend" asked me to ask you what "quadrilateral fields" are.  :-[

Gene K
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: lcarroll on June 21, 2019, 11:56:13 AM
Przemol,
    The period between the World Wars offers so many fascinating and beautiful aircraft, and this one is a perfect example. I dabble in the "Yellow Wings" of the USN for that reason, beautiful vintage aircraft with spectacular color schemes that I really enjoy for a change of pace. This looks like a great Kit and I will be following your Build. Another great piece of Polish Aviation History!
Cheers,
Lance
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on June 21, 2019, 05:58:04 PM
Thanks!

...  holes for rigging eyelets drilled in the quadrilateral fields.

Beautiful workmanship!

"A friend" asked me to ask you what "quadrilateral fields" are.  :-[

Gene K

I am not sure if it is a serious question.  ;) But since I am a teacher, I will try to answer as if it were one.  ;D
The sides of the truss have the elements (posts, longerons, braces) forming triangles and quadrilaterals. The former ones are stable structures and thus do not require rigging, the latter ones are not stable, they are subjected to sway deformation, and thus do require rigging - that is where, in the inner corners, I drilled the holes to introduce the eyelets for the rigging - all this will be added after airbrushing.
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: pepperman42 on June 21, 2019, 06:04:49 PM
Nice work on this very large aircraft!!

Steve
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on July 07, 2019, 10:56:27 PM
Some more work on resin preparations. Wing and stabilizer struts required multiple sessions of filling and sanding - the white spots indicate the affected zones

(https://i.ibb.co/cQ3r1dx/lub13-59.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/r0mMfRr/lub13-60.jpg)

One of the front struts had a too short thinner section - it had to be corrected with razor and sanding paper - now they are identical and fitting to the scale drawings. Cleaning them I removed the raised details of tapes used to fix the Pitot tube pipe to one of those struts - they will be redone using selfadhesive tape.


Furthermore, the test fitting of wings struts and fuselage indicated that the wing sits too high over the fuselage and the cabane struts fell too short. But further measurments with the scale drawings showed that the problem was in too small spacing of the wing mount points for the main struts. The holes which were already prepared for the struts had to be filled and the new correct locations more off the fuselage are now traced - they will be drilled when the filled old places are sanded... Definitely, more to come soon...

(https://i.ibb.co/9Zh7mPr/lub13-61.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Df52sW1/lub13-62.jpg)


And the cabane-outer wing panels joint is finally done.
(https://i.ibb.co/LggQjZB/lub13-63.jpg)
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: kensar on July 08, 2019, 12:55:34 AM
Wow, this kit is really making you work!  Plenty of air bubbles in the resin.
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: ermeio on July 08, 2019, 02:14:46 PM
A superlative work, PrzemoL
It will be another showstopper
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Thumbs up on July 08, 2019, 07:22:16 PM
Great work from the Master!!!!

Very silly question.......Would a coat of paint just hide the bubbles?????
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: RAGIII on July 09, 2019, 11:15:53 PM
An excellent example of proper research correcting a problem with a kit design. Looking terrific!
RAGIII
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: Bughunter on July 10, 2019, 04:36:35 AM
The kit seems to provide nice parts, what you create from that parts with precision work is even better!
Thanks for showing.

Cheers,
Frank
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on July 10, 2019, 06:35:09 AM
Thank you, everyone.

Great work from the Master!!!!

Very silly question.......Would a coat of paint just hide the bubbles?????

My experience with resin shows that the paint layer does not help for perforations.
Title: Re: Lublin R.XIIIG - white 714 (1/32, Lukgraph)
Post by: PrzemoL on July 04, 2020, 09:00:21 PM
Finally, I have completed this build under the Coronavirus-Lockdown GB. More in that section:
https://forum.ww1aircraftmodels.com/index.php?topic=11083.msg209613#msg209613

And one photo here
(https://i.ibb.co/QbV2T5S/OLYMPUS-DIGITAL-CAMERA.jpg)